Is The Tesla Model 3 Performance Really Better Than EVERYTHING!? (Cynic Drives A Tesla)
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2020
- Recently I have seen an increasing trend in the comments section for people telling me whatever car I am reviewing, the owner should have bought a Tesla Model 3 Performance instead. Well, now I am going to drive one and see just what all the fuss is about.
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Thought I’d drive a tesla just for the heck of it to see what I was missing. My idea of a car is now ruined and I must have one. The experience is sooooo different and quite enjoyable.
Not much
@@tifthetif6567its like trading in a blackberry for an iphone
Different is not better.
Now borrow it again to drive in busy traffic with Navigate on Autopilot turned on.
That's the other half of the advantage
@Sunamer Z the car always tells u to stay on and put pressure on the steering wheel to confirm that u're paying attention. And as enjoyable as driving is for me too, tbh in busy roads autopilot is really a great option, i don't think as much as u love driving u actually love the stop and go traffic segments, do you ?
@Sunamer Z its just to know that the driver is still paying attention to the road, the car received 5 star rating on safety for a reason (not only in crashes), it won't drive over kids lol. Besides of course the driver is responsible and in fact the car always puts the disclaimer every time you want to engage autopilot it always tells u to stay up and pay attention to the road and take over if needed, tesla never kept that a secret.
@@sharpendesign6604 It's far from infallible. Put 'tesla autopilot death' into a search engine.
Just a bunch of guys talking about autopilot without ever touching the car.
@@drrkleut yea it's called the internet era, u get so many informations without ever owning the product, really interesting era to live haha
No BiK on this from April, and then rising 1%, and to 2% over two years. Huge incentive for company car drivers.
Betting this will be one of JayEmms most viewed vids...
I hope you're right
That was one reason he did it.... he will struggle to beat Mclaren though I suspect, should have called the video "Mclaren please take Note" that would have been nice and light and humorous.... not to mention the views... :-)
@SuperGoldnut Have you been in a Model 3?
You can change the timing of the warnings in the settings. Almost all of the environment and operation is customizable.
Hey Jay, one note about the not advertising. Tesla currently has a HUGE backlog of orders. They cannot ship any more because they are running at full capacity.
I did enjoy hearing your thoughts, cheers.
Kinda lost credibility when he mentioned advertising would sell more cars..Tesla is trying their best to keep up with demand. Currently Can’t build it fast enough. My friend in the US here were told me he had to wait long for his Tesla cuz they are focused in shipping Tesla to Europe.
The wait time here is two months which is fairly average for a new car, if anything it's quite quick
@@JayEmmOnCars it takes Tesla 1 month at the most to make a car from the time it’s ordered.
@@brickhunter9537 It's not just the time to build, but ship, register etc etc...
@@JayEmmOnCars but you would only advertise if supply capacity is greater than demand... right? I'm sure it will be in the future which is why they are planning more and more gigafactories... but it's not there yet so why advertise?
How can someone wearing that shirt complain about M3 interior.
Haha!
LSD vomit
...I love the Model 3 interior. It was the first thing that got me interested in the car.
Ooo how DARE someone put forth a valid criticism of the model 3!
Because his reviews are awesome
Leave my home every morning with a full tank.... soon!
People talk about range anxiety but driving around needing to get gas is just as annoying
I really didn't want to like the M3P, but after test driving I loved it! The one pedal driving is a revelation and instant performance addictive. Order placed, delivery 'hopefully' next month.....
Hahaha, me too! Went on a test drive last Sat and bought two! 🤦🏽♂️ haha, my wife and I were like, this is a no brainer, let's get rid of the benz and volvo!
Welcome to the real world of Tesla fans & addicts ...... I’m in this club since 6 month & I never regret it ...... 😉
I admire people who can just buy such vehicle like snap a finger.
Happy for you. I've been a petrol head all my life but was getting a little jaded by ice cars. M3P just breathes new life into motoring again for me. It's not about the performance just the whole package.
Richard Corns Same for me. I’m 62 at the end of this year (unfortunately) and Tesla is really the new exciting thing that arrives in the automotive area since a long time. 👍
Love the McLaren digs
I dont think hes on their Christmas Card list for this coming yr !.
I heard the fire brigade was called to the McLaren factory after all those burns 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@dj_paultuk7052 never going to get a test drive..... :-( from them.
I sat in a model 3 and didn’t think the interior was rubbish . Okay it’s not an Audi interior but the model 3 is designed to get the price down when providing a large, expensive battery pack . Better to keep the price at its current level than splurge on a super premium interior which is less important to the average customer .
Great review! Really appreciate the perspective of a petrolhead and not an electric evangelist. Also pleased to see you're open minded and willing to give credit where its due whilst criticising the notable weak points. An honest approach like this is refreshing and builds credibility!
Thanks Doug!
Why do you think this is honest? A honest review would put a BMW M3 against this model 3 on track and do a 15 round track battle, before calling this model 3 better than a M3.
You seem to be under the impression that would be somehow relevant to the driving that these cars do 99.99% of the time. On track an M3 out of the box is an awful car if track driving is what you really care about
I think we all have pre-existing biases. I respect someone who freely admits and recognise that about themselves, and the mindset they’re bringing to a review (in this case a healthy skepticism of electric cars as machines that can provide driving pleasure) whilst remaining open minded. I’m sick of people that simply seek to confirm what they already believe, and I think people do that because it easy and it comfortable. This happens on both sides. I like reviewers that seem to not be swayed by the fear of pissing off a company that lends out their press cars or hurting the feelings of a friend who’s kindly lent them their car to review, and instead just seems to want to give their honest appraisal. Yeah theres no metrics here, no track battle, Vbox etc but theres other channels for that and honestly, all that tells you is how good a car might be a tiny proportion of the time. I mostly want to know about how a car perform in two places - the ballache commute (90% of my time behind the wheel) and the British B road (the other 10% if I’m lucky!)
@@JayEmmOnCars You are comparing the model 3 to a M3, and declares the model 3 as the better car. If you want to compare apples to apples, you should at least perform a true race on the track (not a simple drag race, but a race consisting out of at least 10 laps). After all, the M3 is designed to be a track focused car, not as a comfortable daily driver.
What you think about the interior is totally subjective, for me, I love the clean looks and don't miss 100 buttons and knobs that are rarely used
I love it too and its well made. No rattles nothing.
Exactly. I find the interior BETTER THAN EVERYTHING too. (Best seats for long distance driving too.)
Absolutely agree with you ..... enough cars with interiors like Christmas trees illuminated ! 👍
I love my white interior, it's like a space ship and super easy to keep clean
That stuff is subjective, but not having a speedo in front of you is a problem- one that it's strange Tesla haven't resolved. I'm surprised to find out they don't have HUDs to be honest, seems an obvious thing in a car like that.
They would sell more with advertising? Well they sell EVERY car they make instantly at the moment (you wait like 10weeks for your car atm) so advertising would be plain dumb...
Btw. I think the interior is amazing.
Ten weeks is not long for a car
@@JayEmmOnCars I think he was trying to imply, that they probably couldn't shift much more of them even if they were advertising, because their battery manufacturing is at capacity.
Yep, that's one thing most people don't understand.
They don't spend a penny on advertising because it's an expense they don't need to.
Literally word of mouth are making more sales than they can currently handle, even with their massive expansions planned for the next few years it looks as though it'll be a long time before they actually do catch up with demand. And by that time I highly suspect their technology will have advanced far more and they'll become even more desirable.
In the words of Elon Musk - plaid drive train is like alien technology... As if the current tech is mild lol...
Haha, that’s because they don’t make many cars, and Tesla marketing is great at making you think they sell well. They don’t.
rkan2 It’s not about that - there’s no demand for more.
"The only person that's ever going to think this is a premium interior is American." *hangs head in American* He's right.
So buttons, switches, knobs, dials, ..., is premium?
It's material quality, not the number of knobs
On this premium interior thing I am definitely a Tesla fan I think they’re the greatest thing but the interiors suck as far as the materials. I love the minimalism in the model three though.I would love it if my model three had some Audi style seats
Bob Dobalina i’m pretty sure you’re just trolling but I find it hilarious you think that Americans put plastic on their furniture. Ha ha some people in the 80s with Gerry curl do it to keep their hair grease off the couch but funny stuff dude thank you
Is leather interior considered premium? I have a '99 Ford SHO that's premium, then. LOL!
The thing is that when it comes to every day performance, technology, and economy. Its really hard to beat this car when compared against other cars in its price range. Thats why people say its the answer.
I have one and totally agree with it and i have put a lot more mileage in this car within 8 months of ownership than than any other ICE car i owned mainly because my work place offers free charging and it costs peanuts to charge at home as well which makes to want to travel everywhere around the country to explore more. Also, precondition feature, and dog mode and sentry mode are just great. Never need to scrape ice off the windows or windscreens in the winter.
I don't know why i enjoy watching reviews of the exact same car i have.
I've had no interest in this car and only watching this because it's on your channel. Turns out I'm impressed
Drive one, mate. Seriously, you're missing something if you don't.
Don't drive one unless you're made of money. Also, if you buy one, then especially if you're married, don't forget the FSD! You'll thank me, later.
My delivery is March 20th :D
Congrats and enjoy!
Getting some serious Jeremy Clarkson vibes at 16:40 😂
Meant in a good way, of course. Nice review, made me want to chop my very nice but pedestrian V60 in for one!
same lol
Why? Did he hit someone ;)
12min 55 seconds in “I am really annoyed that I am liking this car” trough gritted teeth.Priceless!
He knows what this means: It means everything he knows about cars -- literally EVERYTHING -- is now 100% completely useless. It ALSO means, his identity as a 'Car guy' is now, also, completely irrelevant. That's why he's mad. That's why ALL these guys are mad. The war is over. Tesla won.
Brilliant video James, very well written and delivered!
Thankyou!
New to the channel and what a refreshing way to do car reviews ..brilliant 👍🏻
They daren't advertise - they can't keep up with demand and are currently battery constrained. If they started to advertise before they've built up their capacity to make batteries, they'll just generate ever-longer waiting lists for orders to be fulfilled.
Drove a Model 3 Standard recently and was really taken with the massive instant torque available from low or zero rpms. The car was a base model with no options, purchase price just over $41K here in the US. For that money, similar to a base BMW 330 here, I think it's an interesting option. Agree the interior and finish overall seems cheap, but the seats seemed comfortable, and there are some luxury features hidden in those menus.
I've never been a Tesla fan, and really wanted to dislike the car, but just was pleasantly surprised by how much fun the massive rpm-free torque can be. No shifting, turbo lag or launch-mode theatrics required, just press down on the volume control and go.
I traded my BMW M3 for the Model 3. I don't regret it at all. I have 41,000 miles on it already and it's been perfect. It's faster than the BMW, handles similar due to low center of gravity, the Brembo brakes do still fade after a few laps of late braking from speed. I think this could be solved with a pad swap. The best part is no maintenance! In the BMW I was always doing those expensive proactive fluid flushes trying to keep stuff from premature failure. In the BM I was always looking for smoke after a cold start, listening for that timing chain guide rattle, crossing fingers connecting rods could handle repeated redline runs, etc. The Tesla is just a more fun/less worry "appliance". Thats not a bad thing.
@@aussie2uGA I'm scared reading this comment. I'm thinking of swapping my N55 M2 for one of these (space, practicality, no fuel) and the M2 is the first car I've owned that I love so much that I even love its problems.
Gone Racing I wouldn't do that, they are fun at first imo but then the screen starts to get super annoying and then the instant torque acceleration kinda gets old because it's the same thing every time. I guess the best way to describe it is that you don't feel so connected, as compared to something like an m2 which feels raw and can go sideways and make noises.
@@goneracing1646 the M2 is THE BMW to buy if you drive stick, i wouldn't change it for a tesla, but if you have an Auto... Then feel free to sell it.
@@aussie2uGA definitely swap the pads and especially the fluids if you track the m3p.
The internal combustion engine is finished.
it's still got plenty of punch left in it, about 10-15 years until it's trully done
@@TheLastCrankers 10 years in the UK. After that they plan to prevent the sale of petrol/diesel engined cars. By then there should be no need for them though.
@@Stabby666 yeah, but the combustion engine tech is still developing rapidly. I mean, we're using materials that a decade ago weren't possible in cycles that weren't known 5 years ago. Hence I say they still got plenty of punch left. Never said anything about government restrictions etc. But electric motors are superior, don't worry, my engineering title prohibits me from saying such lies.
@@TheLastCrankers Those materials give what, 1% efficiency improvement? ICE is dead. Soon (2-3 years) you'll see gas stations closing their pumps as owners see their customers switching and the prospect of spending huge sums to replace storage tanks is too much of a risk. Your ICE car will be worth $1 unless you can find a fool to pay you more.
@@therealctoo4183 That not how it works. You cannot beat laws of physics and get super hisg efficiency in an ice. But you can use these improvements to make more power with the same amount or even less fuel. Bonus points for having more-or-less constant efficiency under load, while electric engines loose a lot when loaded, from over 90% down to around 60%
Really enjoyed that review, occasionally I get jealous of those with the performance but my SR+ still puts a smile on my face every journey
If you didn't get it, already, don't forget the FSD! Especially if you're married, you'll thank me, later.
@@EMichaelBall Bro, you, gotta, learn, how, to, use, commas,
@@HankScorpio468 comma,n man, maybe he just loves commas.
I'm sorry you didn't like Mr. Musk. When I met him five years ago I found him very polite, attentive and modest. Perhaps when you met him he was very stressed.
Did JayEmm ever meet Musk though? I think it is just personality conflict between himself and Musks public image...
@@knifeyonline Exactly
@Sonymnms 52 I suppose he was volatile when he was told to put his submarine where the sun doesn't shine. I did like though the fact that he open-sourced his company's patents in 2014 to encourage other companies to help the acceleration to sustainable energy for the planet and my Grandchildren. Never seen a CEO do that before.
As A current Model 3 Performance owner I can only agree with your conclusion on the interior, it is truly subpar.
But they also have some software issues and other annoyances. I often have an error that tells me that the eCall emergency system is faulty, but rebooting the car solves it (that shouldn't be necessary) and from time to time the cruise control just refuses to turn on.
The auto wiper function is in some scenarios useless, as it does not use a rain sensor looking for rain on the windscreen, instead it uses the cameras to look out of the windows to try to determine whether the wipers needs to be on.
So to get the rain of the windscreen you have two options, either do a single wipe with the button on the indicator stalk, or turn on the wiper manually, which is done using the screen.
And a lot of the things are controlled by the screen, taking focus from the road.
Overall the Tesla Model 3 does all of the EV related stuff really well, but it misses the target on some of the general car related stuff.
As for the performance, it has plenty of it, but after a couple of months the joy of the acceleration has vanished, and I am just longing to get to drive my Porsche which is currently in hibernation for the winter.
You can activate the wiper with voice control.
_"And a lot of the things are controlled by the screen, taking focus from the road."'_
And a lot of the things are controlled by the Voice Control.
@@Wirmish Ahh, yes the voice control... Works wonders in Danish... and also in English with a Danish accent... So I have given up on that a long time ago...
@@Wirmish owned
alf_17 I think the interior quality is fine on a £38k standard range. But it should be more special in the £50k plus Performance.
Wirmish The voice control system is mainly useless. Rarely even hears me and when it does 9 times out of 10 it doesn’t hear me correctly.
What the world really needs is a collection of coach builders to work their style and magic on Tesla chassis/drivetrains.
It's coming. Once they announce their next gen batteries and drive-trains it wouldn't surprise me if they make a deal with a legacy auto maker, maybe even multiple to use their previous gen tech. It will kind of be like computers, instead of "Intel inside" it will be something like "powered by Tesla". I think in a couple more years legacy automakers are going to be begging Tesla to make a deal like this.
I agree Rick, and am hoping that the Gigafactory Berlin has been put there just to be near Volkswagen...
Tesla wouldn't do that, too prideful in their tech, don't want to talk to legacy automakers
Rivian though, those guys are reasonable
@@Ryukachoo I'm not so sure, Elon and the CEO of VW seem to be friends, and the "tech" is the drive train, software, batteries and motors, not the bits of steel and seats that are stuck on top.
Paul Elkington I tend to agree. Why not just sell the “skateboard” and let other makers customize the skin and interior and make it pretty with a nice fit and finish.
Excellent review, had me laughing....keep up the good work.
Took my Lexus for service and decided to pop by the local Tesla service center for a test drive. 3 months later, I'm the proud owner of a Model 3 Performance! Love the car, just wish it was build like a Lexus. Oh well, everything else makes me smile!
As a Lexus driver this is one of my big concerns. That, plus the fact Lexus do some wizardry with sound (in their V6/V8 cars anyway, the 4 pots sound awful), I'm going to miss that when I eventually go electric- hopefully hydrogen not battery though. My other concern which has nothing to do with EVs- how are you finding Tesla customer service? I've genuinely found Lexus so good that I'm worried about going back to anyone else now!
@@ApothecaryTerry Sorry for the late reply. I never got a notification. So far, Tesla service has been fine. Nothing special like Lexus. But, my Tesla needs far less service than my Tesla. I get my tires rotated at Discount Tire and I'm good for another 5k miles. Do I miss the sound of an engine...sure! But, the instant torque and lack of engine/exhaust drone is relaxing, though I still find my RX450h is a little quieter in wind noise and tire noise.
@@Curryolla Good to hear, while I'm making the most of petrol for now, I reckon in maybe 5 years I'll be able to get a charging point installed at my flat or hydrogen might be viable. I'm going to miss a nice engine sound and I'd rather skip batteries for hydrogen but it seems Tesla are setting the bar reasonably high so other manufacturers will have to release good products to keep up.
Currently in a GS450h, which weirdly is not the same drivetrain as the RX450h (it's basically the same as the LC500h, minus a launch gear)- one difference is the 200bhp electric motor so I've got used to the instant kick from that which I do like a lot. I think this video makes EVs seem boring due to lack of sound, but of course switching James's voice for a Mark Levinson stereo will help!
No offence to JayEmm of course...his voice just can't quite match a nice engine or good music for excitement!
@@ApothecaryTerry Love the GS450h. Personally needed the AWD and got an RX450h and Infiniti Q50 Hybrid AWD as well. I love having Mark Levinson. The Bose in my Infiniti is too "mid-heavy". I find ML is great for classical and Jazz music. But the Tesla's sound system is better for 80s and pop.
@@Curryolla I've not heard a Tesla sound system, but for the rock/metal/prog that I mostly listen to while driving I find the ML system unbeatable. I used to work in a recording studio with some insane speakers (ATC SCM100ASL, cost as much as my car) and genuinely used to use the car to check my work as there was stuff I could hear in there but not in the studio!
Ford and GM spend on average 850 pounds advertising per car sold. Yet sales declining at a rapid rate . Tesla spend 0 pounds on each car sold and yet they cannot build cars fast enough. The fact is if you build a great product it needs no advertising it sells itself. Welcome to tesla
If they ever reach a point where manufacturing capacity actually exceeds demand, maybe they will start advertising. Until then, it's kind of useless. Isn't it?
Watching this video 3 years later and look at that! The prophecy came to be! Tesla is now advertising and doing discounts.
I don’t care how fast the model 3 is, it’s exterior styling is drib drab and it’s interior is cheap. I’d rather have a slower better looking car.
That steering wheel is awful! like something out of a mid 2000s econocar.
@@itsamario1269 Each to their own. I have one. I like the steering wheel. It's small, tight and comfortable. Best steering wheel I have had on any car (including all the normal German marques, Jaguar etc)
Sorry but Interior is good. Not as good as a German marque or jaguar, but better than French, Korean or Japanese marques.
naw, upgrade to premium sound system and its just way more comfortable and practical in daily use than a supposedly flashier car. A car shouldn't be a burden.
The interior is its market price. My RS6 is nicer inside but it cost twice as much. M2 cost similar but the insides shit and much prefer the Model 3 over the BMW
I appreciate your fair and honest review. The interior is really subjective and some people love it and some hate it. I agree the materials could be nicer, but I really appreciate the simplicity of the interior and love how it’s like nothing else on the road.
Great review, James. Having just made the same change as the owner in the video (M135i / F10 M5) to Model 3 Performance, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. I used to be spending about £400 a month on petrol. In my first 5 months of Tesla ownership, it's cost me £355.32 in electricity (between AC home charging and supercharging). The difference in fuel alone almost pays for the car. Once I factor in my business mileage, then I'm actually making money. Don't get me wrong, the Model 3 isn't the perfect performance car. The M5 would eat it alive over a certain speed, but for entertaining driving on Cornish back roads, it's hard to beat. I agree that it still isn't an electric car for the masses, but it's beginning to get there. The E-Niro, Kona and new Renault Zoe are fabulous EVs. As demand increases, the cost will go down (until the government realise how much tax revenue they're losing, but that's another story).
your right about the government.
Car prices are going up not down this will never be a car for the masses
As a BMW M owner with a friend who has a model 3 the assumption that an M5 would be better over certain speeds needs one caveat. The BMW driver would need to be very talented and those speeds would be a jail sentance on British roads.
Andy Fox so, how much did you spend on the car? Financed or cash? Thanks for the info.
400 a month on gas... i beg your pardon??????
The slippery slope to cars becoming as anonymous as white fridges ? Bear in mind government will not tolerate car drivers dodging the typically £2000 fuel duty and VED revenue each year EV drivers currently avoid - they will get it back from all of you as soon as there is a bit more take up.
Of course they will, but if I can save money and the planet in the meantime... why wouldn't I?
Never heard of a Toyota Camry?
I've had more fun in my "fridge" than I ever had in any of my previous cars.
There's no answer to any of these questions:
How will people who currently buy a car for £1,000 - or even £5,000 - ever afford a car that is electric or hybrid? At those prices, the batteries will be shot. Are we happy to make cars un-affordable for the less wealthy?
Is the government going to put charging stations for every car on every pavement? Otherwise, how are people who live in flats - i.e. most people who live anywhere near the centre of a city - going to use an electric car?
What about the environmental - and human - cost of all the metals that are in these batteries?
The government is making this promise of banning ICE engines seemingly without making any of the difficult - and expensive - decisions. I.e. the current government is claiming all the credit for being 'green', while leaving the problems caused for future governments to sort out.
'Electric car for the masses'... at £50,000 (or about double the annual mean salary in the UK).
And how many people are running an electric car as their only car?
@@julianevans9548 Seat Mii is the electric car for the masses, every single Tesla model is still far beyond the masses paygrade.
'Are we happy to make cars un-affordable for the less wealthy?'
That's exactly what the UK govt./London mayor/TFL want.
Car ownership for everyone used to be seen as a driver of economic growth; now they are just seen as a problem to be ridden of. 'try walking or cycling, pleb!'
Exactly what I’ve been saying. I can afford maybe a few grand, these things are a liability when they’re older and a huge waste. I kind of predict in the future we’ll be hiring them and giving them back for refurb after 3-5 years.
Love the videos but gotta say I really dig the ending! That 80's throwback is sweet :)
We went for a test drive out of interest. Ours arrives in November!
Absolutely incredible machine that is faster than the vast majority of cars on the road.
I’m a petrol head - love racing, cars, riding motorcycles - but honestly I’m one of those who sees every new expensive combustion car and think, why did you buy that? We’re in a climate emergency , the owner had the money to buy a Tesla or other premium electric and yet you didn’t . I immediately see the owner as uncaring about saving our species (the planet will be fine ) and dislike them . That’s just the way I see it .
Couldn't agree more, I was not helpful in the past. Raised beef cattle all my life; went organic plant based. Ate more meat than most, then went full vegan. Worked in the oil industry, but never again. "Be the change you wish to see in the world" - Ghandi
Nick Clark biggest 15-20 oil ships pollute more than every car. If you leave just true petrol heads we probably wouldn’t make a dent, comparatively to people not recycling. Not eating meat does the same to the environment to switching to electric. I will recycle, but take it to the centre in my old school JDM sh!tbox, which would be better at saving the planet than people jumping from electric car to electric car every 5 years. No point of electric cars if people keep switching every 5 years, if people keep cars going for 15-20 years petrol or electric rather than going to the new tech car every 3 years we would drop the carbon footprint massively. Industry still has to industry though
@@slideways8022 Tesla's Model 3 drivetrain has been tested to 1 million miles with almost no wear. Model S battery packs have already lasted more than 300,000 miles of real world use in customer cars on real roads. People may buy a new EV in 5 years, but well made EVs will easily last 1 million miles, with a battery pack change or two. Old battery packs are being used for grid storage, or can be recycled. Almost nothing of EV battery packs is wasted or not reused or recycled.
Don't believe the anti-EV lies constantly being put out by oil companies. Do the math for yourself.
P.S. People do not suddenly junk cars when they reach 5.1 years old. They keep getting utilized, for example as used cars.
If you're saying there should be fewer new car models, I completely agree. I plan to drive my Model 3 for at least 20 years. It's a nearly perfect car in almost every way. Test drive one and see for yourself, even if you're not buying.
Loanword Eggcorn damn, I see you argument. So much I haven’t factored in. Also forgot to add my sources, and my I’m 14 take everything without sources with a grain of salt. The source above were the guardian
@@slideways8022 Here's a reference for battery life at 300,000+ miles: cleantechnica.com/2019/11/23/500000-miles-in-a-tesla-whats-the-result/
Tesla has already developed batteries that have the potential to last 1 million miles, but they are not in production. Reference: www.businessinsider.com/million-mile-battery-tesla-miles-lifetime-2019-11
Here's a reference for the Model 3 drivetrain lasting more than 1 million miles: cleantechnica.com/2018/10/16/tesla-model-3-motor-gearbox-survive-1-million-miles-of-testing/
Pictures of the Model 3 drivetrain with 1 million miles of testing are on Elon Musk's twitter feed also.
You're right that it's always good to check references. Anything without a sold reference can be false.
Great review Jay. Was interested in your POV as I have a Model 3 arriving in a couple weeks as my new daily. (First EV after a string of BMWs.) Ended up just going with the base model, if you can call a 350HP RWD compact saloon "base"!
I drove M3P once. 3 seconds to 62mph hurt my face in a good way.
Appreciate your even-handed approach - very interesting watch. They're such impressive feats of engineering, but easier to admire than love; I relate to them as an appliance, rather than a living and breathing machine (sound, or lack of, being a big part of it).
As I've been saying for quite some time: the worst thing about owning a tesla is being associated with musk's fanboys
I find my TM3P and my S2000 the perfect combo!
Sounds ideal!
Sounds like good garage. I’ve got a comfy/rowdy combo myself. B5/S4 and 370Z. I like to stir my own gears, so the S4 is a manual and would miss that in a model three
I have a Model 3P + Lotus Exige S. Digital and Analog thrills!
My mix is a diesel Audi A3 and a BMW Z4M 🙂
James F that’s an awesome combo! Used to have the Z4M in a roadster
Amazing insight. Thanks
I'm an American 2020 Model 3 LR AWD owner. I appreciate your honest review of the car, and agree with (almost) everything you said. Nicely done.
I enjoyed that. A fair and balanced review from a real 'car guy'.
It’s like having it off with a blow-up doll. No noise or much feedback (apart from a few squeaks). ICE until the end
Good analogy
I laughed at ‘Having it off’. People stopped saying that in the 80s.
ICE forever for me. At least for my fun cars. Maybe one day I'll get a leccy daily
@@JelloTypeR ha ha I was trying to use sensible 'shagging/pumping' words!
Pretty good call there.
Jay, love your take on it! thanks
You are right about Lotus people making it to Tesla, the manager of the chassis design department at Tesla and responsible for the S,X, 3 and Y is an old mate of mine and an ex-Rover and ex-Lotus design engineer.
Great review! I liked how your skepticism coming in was basically resolved. The unconventional things you get used to really quick, including the speedometer being on the screen. It's similar to how Mini Cooper and I think even the Prius has/had their speedo in the center. If you want theatre, you should've tried Track Mode!
As an American, I don't think most people, even car people, would know what their daily drivers did on a drag strip either. The car specs people seem to care about on a daily basis are 0-60 times and peak horsepower. I daily drive a 2018 Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD but I've also got a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT (Vauxhall VXR8 / Holden Commodore VE) with a 6.0L V8 that I actually don't drive much because the Tesla is just so good and well rounded at everything.
RE: advertising. I think they aren't spending anything on advertising because they just can't produce any more cars than they are currently making. If you've got a waiting list already, making a longer waiting list isn't really any better for anyone. Maybe once Giga Berlin gets built, they'll need to start advertising in Europe because all the Euro-spec cars they're currently making in North America will relieve the factory crunch. Tesla sold more cars in North America in 2019 than BMW did!
Great review, I love my M3P but also love my 4c....... But the 4c seems so "old" now .... I am really looking forward to seeing what the major manufacturers are going to bring out in future
Maybe have opposites, like an S2k. A relatively low powered high revving car and a low down torque heavier car.
Take it with a grain of salt as I am only 14
Awesome review, I genuinely love your honest refreshing reviews on cars.
Excellent review!
Umm, you can test drive at the mall ‘shops’. Clearly you haven’t researched this part well?
"It's the electric car for the masses. This particular model is just over £50,000."
*laughs in poor*
(I realise the dual-motor performance is going to cost more than the base, but still when the average UK salary is somewhere in the £35k range, i wouldn't call it affordable for the masses!)
Appreciate a skeptics review, for the same reasons you state at the start, everyone on the internet sings their praises.
That's the top of the range one. As for a thirty odd grand car not being for the masses. Have you actually been on a road lately? I don't live in a rich area or anything but it seems every other car is less than 3 years old, probably on a lease deal or something. I think they're out of their minds paying £300 a month half of them can barely afford to drive a German rep-mobile but they most certainly are doing.
Considering man made Climate change is a hoax this is the real reasons for electric cars- in the future driving will be only for the rich, not the masses.
@@TheMentalblockrock Hmm... who to believe, 99% of climate scientists? Or right-wing politicians, the oil companies who back them financially, the tax-dodging billionaire-owned media who support it all, and the politicians' duped followers?
@@markg55 You're right, seems to be a UK thing that most people lease something new and expensive. Have colleagues who lease and think that £270 a month is cheap. One who's just turned 21 got himself a lease on a brand new 320i.
Meanwhile im driving an 18 year old e46 that only cost me £1850 total!
@@dasstig5274 Same here, an apprentice at work, just passed his test. The idea of just buying an old car seemingly hadn't even occurred to him.
The owner is clearly making a sensible purchase, there is a new National Trust sticker in one of the back windows! A man after my own heart.
I think a polarizing filter on the cameras outside could improve the production quality for not a significant amount. Great content as always
This guy talks sense 👍
george george maybe he can teach mr musk how to improve reliability also as seeing someone breakdown in France on a European road trip in a 4 month old £50k model 3 is embarrassing not to mention inconvenient.
george george but you do now?
george george depends if it’s sharpe or blunt I suppose 😉
george george ya very welcome 👍
@@alancobbin1310
Embarrassing and inconvenient and never happens with any other brand. Or maybe they just don't get the publicity when they cock up, which they most certainly do. How many vehicles have they sold and how many incidents like this have there been? We can be assured that, because they're Teslas, we've seen them all.
"It is, I must admit, impressing me...." you looked like you were nearly choking when you said that !!!!!
I think we have a convert.
"Fair play Elon, fair play"
I reckon Model 3 is a brilliant car and far and away better than anything else in the EV market currently; then you add into the mix the following : The Supercharger network, Over the air updates - which add new features for free keeping the ownership experience fresh, Autonomous driving , the list goes on and on.
Why are all tesla fans cultists?
@@kausarde4974 Yeh ! , so many Tesla fanboys refuse to believe that other manufacturers have been doing over the air updates for ages , Musk claimed that Tesla would be ready for level 5 automony this year , they were not even the 1st for level 3 ( Audi A8L) & Google's Waymo project is the best example of level 4 !. No doubt the supercharger network will become more popular but is not that relevant at the moment when over 90% of charging is done at home or at a destination charger like a place of work , despite all this apparently Tesla are 10 years ahead of everyone else !
@@aidanwilson6035 Who are these other manufacturers?
David .. a truly honest review & looked like JM wasn't happy that the car had impressed him
The supercharger network is a huge advantage for Tesla. My half a dozen experiences with them have been perfect. On other public chargers a 40% success rate and much slower charging when they worked.
Great video as always, thanks
My opinion of Tesla is this, I'd buy a 3 year old Model 3 for cheap to be a cheap runaround that uses no gas and keeps the miles off my real cars and has a warranty for 5 more years, other than that I don't have a whole lot of interest in their cars. 🤷♂️ Also I am American and I sure as hell don't consider their interiors premium. 😂
I think it's an exciting beginning for the brand. I love my 3s-gte powered turbo, manual, awd wagon, but that's had 100 years of technology revisions behind its design. These are only new and will get better and better and better.
Caldina gtt? If so I'm well jealous lovely car
ST215 Ftw!! Fun and practical.
You didn't try track mode? I can assure you, it is a great track car.
Winter tyres? I'd like to see a track test too.
No ıt is not
Tepid Tuna There are quite a few Model 3 track videos. One of the best is a UA-cam video by Daerik entitled "Professional Driver for Motor Trend; Randy Pobst Racing My Model 3." The last half shows the view from the front window. Note that they are racing the car despite it only having a 30 percent charge.
@Sunamer Z model 3 doesn't overheat, that's the model s you're talking about
@Sunamer Z Gotta love it when people who don't know anything about elecronics assume electric cars can't develop any issues. Heat is always a big problem under load.
As someone who tracks both a Model 3 and a Miata, please do not write it off as a track weapon before you've tried it. It's serious kit on a circuit. Is it going to give you the same tinglies as a 720s? No. Will it have serious pace alongside the other super saloons? Absolutely. The car comes alive. It has a bit of understeer but it's a small price to pay for being so blisteringly quick out of the corners. Track Mode v2 released this week introduces power bias control. Flick a slider on screen and make it a fully RWD car, and turn the nannies down or off. Eager to get it back on track this spring to see if it can now be dialed in properly to erase that understeer. Put some performance rubber on that thing and take it to Silverstone will you?
Do not compare a small everyday commuter's car with sports car. Tesla has a minimalist interior and exterior. Not a cup-a-tea for everyone but look at Tesla S 2012 it still looks modern. Look at Merc or Audi from 2012. They look dated. It's 2020, dude! high time to give up on the German Auto - baroque interiors.
Tesla 3 is a compromise which beats the uncompromising Germans. Wait an year or two until they drop the price of the batteries another 30%. Imagine this car for 30% less but with even more features, quality and service, and with even wider charging network.
Short term reviews like this always seem flawed. It's great that the presenter found the Model 3 to be very surprising and capable. However the specific strengths and weaknesses of the car are found by longer appreciation and will often change. For instance the technology in the Tesla is often held out as well in advance of others but (other than the neat over-the-air updates which mean I am never driving an out of date car) I find most of the advanced driving tech to be less competent than in my eNiro or Mazda CX-5. On the other hand the screen being out of line of your vision quickly becomes the new norm and the idea of a bunch of clutter blocking your forward vision starts to seem bonkers (there is no issue with your knee hitting the screen unless you have your seat in a very funny position for your size). The build quality, whilst not 'luxury' is still better than most other EV's I have owned, and the seats are more comfortable than most too. In general the quality is 'perfectly adequate'. The paint quality on the other hand leaves something to be desired.
In the end, find another £58K car that is 4 wheel drive, does 0-60 in 3 seconds, (or £38K in 5 seconds), has great handling, improves as time goes on (the car is now faster, goes further, has 1-pedal driving and host of other features, which it did not have when I bought it), is of a 'reasonable' build quality, costs very little to run and fuel, can comfortably seat five people and take a really good amount of luggage at the same time, is not quite as bad for the environment etc, etc. There simply isn't any other car close to it and that is why Tesla have so many fans. The model 3 is not a perfect car, there are many, many things that could be improved on, but - unlike other manufacturers - you have some certainty that Tesla are working on doing just that and those improvements are coming to the car you already own, not one you have yet to buy.
I asked Tesla themselves for a car for a week to address the exact issue you talk about but they wouldn't even respond to me
SLH SLH Very fair comment
@@JayEmmOnCars Rent or borrow one. If I were in the U.K. I would lend you mine.
@SLH SLH Model 3 build quality is on par with Toyota and BMW, but not as good as Mercedes. It's more than adequate. My paint is nearly perfect and on par with most German cars. Later Model 3s are better than very early cars due to the experience effect of getting better at building things.
Model 3 is not perfect, but on the whole it's better than pretty much any other similarly sized sedan. Better torque, smoothness, handling, road feel, efficiency, styling, automation, fast charging, over the air updates, etc.
Regarding environment, a fossil fuel car can't be powered from sunshine or wind. An EV can. And the grid is increasingly renewables since unsubsidized wind and solar are already cheaper than coal and nuclear. Therefore an EV gets cleaner as the grid gets cleaner.
Combustion cars get dirtier as the engine parts wear. At best, they never get cleaner.
@@JayEmmOnCars cry some more princess.
What's it like round Spa? Not bad but had a bit of trouble navigating the baked goods aisle.
How many laps can it do at Spa? Heck, Can it do one lap on a full charge?
@@kleefton Well its about 200 feet round my local so I'd reckon it'd make it round a few times.
The whooshing sound it makes while it goes round would be sound of the joke going over your head.
@@kleefton Somewhere around 14 laps on a full charge
A good honest review.
It’s twice the car, for half the money of any competitor... AND it’s actually not spewing out harmful gases (both that people breath in the cities and the CO2 greenhouse gases).
Ooo, and it dormant need oil changes or any servicing or any of that nonsense.
They are shipping as fast as they can make the Model 3. So they should waste money on advertising so they can big up a bigger backlog?
Yeah, the other 'gripes' didn't make sense either:
he doesnt like the lack of dash - but why ? - just sentimental it seems
"is it a track-weapon.?.... No." um - maybe look at videos of it where they actually go on a track instead of tiny lanes?
"I can't wait to see what comes next"
... That would be Plaid ;)
The Tesla vehicles were designed by the ghostwriter of Spaceballs.
Nice, informative. video.
A Challenger on Spa is easy. It will push on corner entry, oversteer on exit, and you DO have to lift on Eau Rouge!
I'd put up the touchscreen for climate control but the lack of HUD is a let down. Maybe in future models they will improve interior qualiy as the company keeps growing and improving. Great video. Keep up the good work.
I hud is that big of deal to install one from cheap to expensive
As a Normal Brit earning normal wages doing normal mileage with a family in mind, this is well beyond affordable for the masses! £50k is way more than I could dream of affording and even on the 2nd hand market with half dead batteries it will need expensive maintenance so really it's only worth buying new. I am a petrol head and love performance so anything less than a performance version is not going to get me on the band wagon I.E Nissan leaf etc. Whilst you can get performance cars for less than £20k people like me in my situation will not be deterred from our Dinosaur juice vehicles. I went to a Tesla shop (in a shopping centre lol) and looked at the Model 3 and S and I must say the interiors were awful. Already falling apart in the shop with people in and out , they certainly will not age well inside. The interior is very basic and really needs as you say someone with taste to redesign, it is the place you spend you're time and really is an important selling piece especially for me. I will miss the sounds of V8/V10 and V12s hopefully I'll be 6ft under my then, I cant imagine turning upto a cruise with nothing but tyre screeches 🤣. Great review as ever Jayemm 👊 if you would like to review an odd ball R60 JCW shout me 👍 I love my little SUV but doest get the love from the Mini community 😪.
With any luck you'll be able to get your hands on a used M3P in a few years.
@@Bryan46162 When the batteries are out of warranty, with compromised range and any failure being beyond economical repair.
In the future, only the wealthy or very technically minded will be able to drive.
CharlieboySLONDON The vast majority aren’t slapping down £50k. Most new cars are bought on a lease or PCP.
@@chrisabbott683 Still a huge financial commitment that many couldn't afford.
Matthew Jenkins Agreed. But it’s what’s keeping new car sales going. Many people seem comfortable wheeling out 250/300 a month! Not me.
I have a Model 3 and a Leaf, and their regen is nothing alike! Except for cold days when the regen is reduced, you simply don't have to touch the brake in the M3. Takes a little practice to learn the braking distances on regen, but once you get the hang of you you rarely touch the brake. I also find the statement that the steering isn't "ultra precise" curious, because both in my own experience and from just about every renowned car reviewer I've read that's exactly what they lauded about the M3 steering, that it is highly precise and quick. Not much feedback, being electric, but super precise. But ok. And regarding the interior, it's actually very German and Bauhaus in concept: form follows function, no unnecessary shape or adornment, just what you need to get the job done. The interior disappears during the driving experience. I used to love German interiors, the BMWs and Mercedes of the 80s and 90s, very driver oriented, every item with a purpose. Nowadays the bling in Mercedes cars is sickening, ridiculous shape choices, excessive use of chromed bits etc. Tesla is what the Germans used to be, I love it.
I don't know how it works as far as refunds go in other countries, but the 10k cash discount in American standards mainly comes from tax and government refunds. When I purchased my model 3, I received $3750 for tax (I heard it was 7500 before), $1000 back from my electric and utilities company, and $2500 from the government rebate. That's about 7000. Afterwards, the money I save from zero maintenance and 1/4 cost of fuel, $10000 savings is definitely not far fetched.
Why do Tesla’s all look like 15 year old jaguar designs? I saw a presentation from musk the other day and they brought out 3 models. I thought they’d made a mistake and brought out the same car!
What I want to know is how the masses are going to afford electric cars! In 10 years when I’d be into one used they’ll be trash or needing another £10k battery pack. My prediction is they’ll be the most wasteful automotive engineering ever conceived.
Total joke the car emissions thing anyway. The real issue is the population size! Stop people breeding so much for a few years and we’ll have an answer to a lot of ‘problems’ global warming, lack of jobs, homelessness, hospital over crowding, prison over crowding etc etc etc. Why is this not being addressed?
shhhh don't be talking sense! All of the vegan lovin EV heads will be chasing you with sticks if you keep spouting truths! So spot-on on 10-year-old EV cars once those batteries go they are going to be detramental to the environment and then all these people who screamed oh oh oh we have to go EV will be nowhere to be seen.
100%facts ! Do the hippys know about lithium mining! Theres alot of big businesses that have fleets or diesel Van's chugging out fumes yet we the masses are first to be hit in the pocket. Why are British Gas and the like with 100s if not 1000s of vans, not made to get EV Van's, making a huge reduction in emissions instantly. The government are only Iterested in money and protecting corporations for there baking. The Government are a joke !!!
CharlieboySLONDON just another form of taxation as you said commercial vehicles public transportation the maritime industry and farming let’s not mention them...
I don't agree that population as an issue, but yeah electric cars are just a government sponsored fad to make people feel as if they are saving the planet.
Have you not seen the Cybertruck? Never seen a Jag like that! Stop breeding? We have, and it will cause HUGE issues due to too may old people, look at Japan to see what is happening NOW.
I can tell you the autonomous parking feature is pretty bad, a guy on my street has one and it always ends up 3ft form the kerb blocking half the lane making the street a single carriage way 🤬
Cornwall1888 prop doesnt have the function. It’s a extra. It parks really close
ER van Dam maybe you’re right and he just can’t park so should have it
one of the best reviews you've done imo
Great Review
Looks good, problem with M3 or an M4 is how much they loose in depreciation...hope to see you soon #ashgood. We have a Taycan turbo coming in
True. Ran a M3 a year for so ago for 18 months. Lost about 18k 😐 Had my M3P for 6 months now and the few 2nd hand ones about are commanding full price or more?
Anyone who actually drives a Model 3 for at least a day and then gets back into a regular ICE car, will know how rough, harsh, noisy and somewhat jerky ICE cars are. I loved my Audi RS but hated the drive back in it after testing the Model 3. It is a real game charger and I'm (or was) a massive fan of big engined,fast and noisy sports cars.
M Jay its like having sex without a condom on the first time. Its never the same.
@@grandmaster-grouch LOL! Best comment ever!
EpicElite Master, Grand hilarious.
This is everything a car reviewing channel should be 👍
Are there any good deals? Any govt support? Sorry for my laziness, I'm almost unconscious 😎
Since we in the UK are weird, we buy fuel by the litre but measure distances by the mile, fuel economy in Miles per litre is actually the easiest and most obvious metric to work out for yourself. My car takes 55 litres to fill and does about 400 miles on a tank. You don't have to do any annoying conversions to get back to a metric you can look up.
Dull looking but impressive performance. They need to inject some real passion into the design.. Get a proper design house to style it make it more desirable to people who love cars.
@@user-to2rf1rj5v most beautiful car in the world? I think that title is held by the Jaguar e type or perhaps the lamborghini miura..alfa romeo 33 stradale.. Mercedes gull wing.. to only name a few .. Designed with purpose, passion and real beauty.. I get it that new innovation has to begin somewhere and times are changing but as an old petrol head it's going to take something that doesn't look like a bland, everyday household appliance to grab my attention
Drag coefficient. When you compare it to a Prius then you might understand that it is actually great looking haha
@@larryspiller15 everyone is entitled to their opinion and 'beauty' is in the eye of the beholder
@@superseven7947 yeah I'm just saying there is at least a reason to its looks and considering other automakers attempts for low drag vehicles I'd say its top 3 for sure. I don't think Tesla struggles with finding a good designer but they have an efficiency standard to work within
Honest review... credibility raised...
And this from an 🇺🇸
Jay which would you choose between this car and the stinger ?
First car that reviews biggest flaw is in the mobile websites savings calculator 😂
They "to Me" seems on par with Iphones.. uselessly technical and tied into ridiculous processes that means you cant do any self maintenance...but i guess its a good business model ...
Err there is no maintenance to do, that's the point. All the drive units are sealed for the life of the car of 1+million miles.
This just shows how much there is to educate about electric cars. Power train is free of maintenance, but suspension, steering and brakes parts are same as regular cars and cheaply available.
This guy's idea of a luxurious interior seems to require lots of cheap plastic led buttons and shiny plastic trim like Mercedes or Audi.
You realise Tesla is production constrained, not demand constrained? No point spending advertising ££ when you already can't keep up with demand. Leave the business to business people, do what you do well, review cars. You have a new sub.
As a Porsche macan GTS and soon Taycan owner I think those complement each other perfectly. I sold my GT4 for the Taycan turbo as a fun spaceship car. The Macan is incredible daily driver. I can understand why the tesla can replace the daily driver car though, quiet and cost saving, but it's not quite there for me as a premium daily. Well reviewed!
Already looking forward to your review of the new Taycan!
I just find the Model 3 too sterile with no character. They should make it more aggressive and sporty looking and add some sporty noise like the Porche Taycan has. Give it a soul.
Richard Kok You can always program engine sounds into its sound system like a lot of ICE cars do nowadays.
Wait for the Roadster, the S and Model 3 are touring sedans.
@@carsonj1 I unfortunately don't have high-hopes for the Tesla Roadster 2.0 It will likely follow the same trend. Most people purchase a car because they feel attracted to its character. The latest Alfa Quadrifoglio has lots of this for example, and its not necessarily all perfect, but it is an attractive value proposition. I love my wife for her faults not because she is perfect. Same argument goes for a car.
Richard Kok I am sure people said the same sorts of things when cars took over from horses. With the roads the way they are (busy) and laws so strict the days of hooning the streets are gone or soon will be. I don’t find Tesla’s sterile, I find them efficient. By the way that Alfa with 100,000 km on it will be a huge unreliable money pit that is rapidly falling in value. A Tesla will be as good as new.
Case in point the new BMW i4 that was launched at the 2020 Geneva Motor Show. Now that in my opinion is a sexy looking electric vehicle.
4 years on, these are available for about £22k with 30,000 miles. Thinking of buying one, because not only have they proved very reliable, but nothing else in that price range seems to get close in performance or range. Agree with Jay on the looks and interior though.
Looool the intro had my dying of laughter