The damage to 12 is not by a round house incident, it was brought on by the engineer and fireman being distracted, waving and whistling at the Fireman's wife, they were not paying attention to where they were going, and they collided with a string of cars the switcher was moving, this basically destroyed number 12's front end, and bent her frame, ET&WNC rushed the repairs to get her back in service. She was back on duty in 2 weeks and it was said 12 was never the same after the wreck due to issues in her frame. Issues that amazingly enough were not fixed until her 1999 overhaul at Tweetsie, nearly 75 years after her accident.
Thank you for this information. I only roped that incident in because of what I read during my last visit to the park. I didn't know what happened exactly, so I assumed it was what I said the video. If I ever talk about Number 12 again, I'll make sure to get this right.
You should do a separate video about the history of engines, 192 and 70 how they started out on the white pass and Yukon then begin life on the rebel Railroad, which would later become the Dollywood theme Park
Thank you for using footage from my video at 31:50 I appreciate it. Ever since the city of Skagway moved 195 from the backlot behind the Skagway museum to the more open plot to the right of the museum it has become a magnet for children, there are no warning signs or barriers thus children climb all over 195. In fact if you listen to the audio of my video you can hear children screaming and five minutes after filming they climbed up onto the tender of 195 and threw apples that they picked from a nearby tree.
For locomotives like New York Central Hudson's Southern Pacific GS northerns Union Pacific Big Boys Challengers ETC I think they would look bizarre with 19th century modifications since they were built during the 20th century
Nice! also a bit of the ET&WNC line managed to survive and becoming a tourist line going from hampton, tennessee to the doe river gorge, dubbing it the doe river gorge railroad.
Saw a lot of my personal slides in this video from the late 50s and early 1960s. I was glad you were able to use them for this documentary. If you need more in the future, reach out and I will give you a clear copy. Also, thanks for giving credit to the respected owners, a lot of people don’t!
I may not be a big fan of tweetsie Railroad, but I do always love a good history video explaining how things came to be for famous tourist attractions, such as this one in North Carolina.
Interestingly, there is almost a sister to No 12. It was built from the same design but with a 1-inch difference in driver diameter for use on the Tenana RR out of Fairbanks, AK in 1919 for the Alaska Engineering Commission building the Alaska RR from Anchorage to Fairbanks until the bridge over the Nenana River was built so the Tenana RR could be standard gauged. It is No 152 or No 2 as used on the Huckleberry RR in Genesee Township, MI along with the K-27 No 464.
There are many more 3 foot guage locomotives than what were mentioned, mostly D&GRW "K" type (2-8-2). Surprisingly nearly all of the K type locomotives still exist, some in very poor condition. There are a few others, some well over 100 years old. Tweetsie Railroad has some hiastoric equipment. It would be nice to see more of the right of way rebuilt. ;-)
There are only 2 K-27 (the first of the class) still in existence and in operation; 464 is on the Huckleberry RR at Flint, MI, and 463 is on the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic RR between Chama, NM and Antonito, CO its original operational railroad route. The last of the K-28s are on the Durango & Silverton Narrow Gauge RR where they had originally worked when new. The K-36s are between the C&TS and the D&SNG. The operational K-37 No 491 is at the Colorado Railroad Museum. The K-27s were built in 1903. The K-37s were rebuilt from standard gauge 2-8-0s by the D&RGW at the Denver Burnham shops.
The damage to 12 is not by a round house incident, it was brought on by the engineer and fireman being distracted, waving and whistling at the Fireman's wife, they were not paying attention to where they were going, and they collided with a string of cars the switcher was moving, this basically destroyed number 12's front end, and bent her frame, ET&WNC rushed the repairs to get her back in service. She was back on duty in 2 weeks and it was said 12 was never the same after the wreck due to issues in her frame. Issues that amazingly enough were not fixed until her 1999 overhaul at Tweetsie, nearly 75 years after her accident.
Thank you for this information. I only roped that incident in because of what I read during my last visit to the park. I didn't know what happened exactly, so I assumed it was what I said the video. If I ever talk about Number 12 again, I'll make sure to get this right.
A part of the ET&WNC narrow gauge is restored and is known as the Doe River Gorge Railroad
You should do a separate video about the history of engines, 192 and 70 how they started out on the white pass and Yukon then begin life on the rebel Railroad, which would later become the Dollywood theme Park
Oh yeah I agree. I do hope there is a separate video coming soon.
Thank you for using footage from my video at 31:50 I appreciate it. Ever since the city of Skagway moved 195 from the backlot behind the Skagway museum to the more open plot to the right of the museum it has become a magnet for children, there are no warning signs or barriers thus children climb all over 195. In fact if you listen to the audio of my video you can hear children screaming and five minutes after filming they climbed up onto the tender of 195 and threw apples that they picked from a nearby tree.
Sounds like they need to give 195 some tlc.
For locomotives like New York Central Hudson's Southern Pacific GS northerns Union Pacific Big Boys Challengers ETC I think they would look bizarre with 19th century modifications since they were built during the 20th century
Thanks for going out of your way to post this for people to understand how powerfull and strong these engines are!
Nice video thx for using my footage!
You're welcome
Nice! also a bit of the ET&WNC line managed to survive and becoming a tourist line going from hampton, tennessee to the doe river gorge, dubbing it the doe river gorge railroad.
Very Awesome Documentary on my Favorite Theme Park Railroad Well Done I'm impressed.
Not a bad video! Some of the narration is a little clunky, but overall, the video is very well put together!
Saw a lot of my personal slides in this video from the late 50s and early 1960s. I was glad you were able to use them for this documentary. If you need more in the future, reach out and I will give you a clear copy. Also, thanks for giving credit to the respected owners, a lot of people don’t!
I may not be a big fan of tweetsie Railroad, but I do always love a good history video explaining how things came to be for famous tourist attractions, such as this one in North Carolina.
Very interesting looking at the backstories!
I love that one of the cars with 12 was from my favorite railroad the East Broad Top narrow gauge a fascinating story in its own right
Interestingly, there is almost a sister to No 12. It was built from the same design but with a 1-inch difference in driver diameter for use on the Tenana RR out of Fairbanks, AK in 1919 for the Alaska Engineering Commission building the Alaska RR from Anchorage to Fairbanks until the bridge over the Nenana River was built so the Tenana RR could be standard gauged. It is No 152 or No 2 as used on the Huckleberry RR in Genesee Township, MI along with the K-27 No 464.
Correction. Two steam locomotives run on the white pass and Yukon. 69 and 73
I see a lot of my footage on this.
You had some nice footage. Hopefully you're okay with it being used in the video.
@@ottomatic6432 As long as your not monetizing then you're good
@@stevensainerailfanproductions Don't worry. I can't monetize it anyway, due to music.
An interesting side note white pass 190 actually has the tender from sumpter valley railway 18
Wasn’t the last run on the ET & WNC October,16,1950
It might’ve been. I think I might’ve said the wrong number without realizing.
There are many more 3 foot guage locomotives than what were mentioned, mostly D&GRW "K" type (2-8-2). Surprisingly nearly all of the K type locomotives still exist, some in very poor condition.
There are a few others, some well over 100 years old.
Tweetsie Railroad has some hiastoric equipment. It would be nice to see more of the right of way rebuilt. ;-)
There are only 2 K-27 (the first of the class) still in existence and in operation; 464 is on the Huckleberry RR at Flint, MI, and 463 is on the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic RR between Chama, NM and Antonito, CO its original operational railroad route. The last of the K-28s are on the Durango & Silverton Narrow Gauge RR where they had originally worked when new. The K-36s are between the C&TS and the D&SNG. The operational K-37 No 491 is at the Colorado Railroad Museum. The K-27s were built in 1903. The K-37s were rebuilt from standard gauge 2-8-0s by the D&RGW at the Denver Burnham shops.
The two trains are on the National Register of Historic Places if I’m not mistaken.
So what happened to 10 and 14 tweetsies sisters l assume they were scrapped
They were destroyed in a fire
I knew 192 looked similar to 190.
Can you do another one 92 video?
Does no:12 still exist in real life
You should probably watch the whole video before commenting.
@@ottomatic6432 thank you for the reply
@@ottomatic6432 I hope they do as well
North Carolina’s East broad top
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