This is Why You Don't Buy Fake Wheels
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2023
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We test counterfeit knockoff parts against their real counterparts to see if they can stand up to the abuse.
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James,
All the parts on my car are real
-Nolan
I really wanna see a Volvo 850R or T5 on here plz
Just do it what’s the worst that can happen
Porfavor
Volvo 850 don’t forget
I think they cool
Day 641 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back
man's almost doing this for 2 years so James might as well do it
Yeah they need to
It's been that long 🥲
I've been asking for an Up to speed on Ken Block
do it donut
So I basically just watched a video of tests that determined absolutely nothing and then said “but really, you should buy authentic, trust us”.
I miss when I could come away from a Donut video feeling like I actually learned something.
So let’s take some wheels that were never designed to be ran over by a car to see which is better.
Test the stuff in application. These videos are getting repetitive.
yeah the last few videos the quality has declined massively imo. it feels like rushed content just breaking stuff, no explanations or the detail we're used to.
Agree, this was a worthless video.
exactly, this puts what i thought into words
@King Jimmy, MBA, PMP Ya, I had to double check because I thought I watched it already but that was the other one where they did basically the same thing
I miss the old Donut… You guys getting down and dirty in Jobe’s garage and just being real, having fun. Maybe it’s just me, but there’s definitely been a shift in what you guys focus on. Love the team, hopefully you guys get back to basics at some point. That’s what made you guys blow up in the first place.
at this point they are just making videos for kids and for the tiktok car mechanics it’s not even fun to watch anymore
Pretty new to the channel. How was old Donut like exactly?
@@jujulaf18go watch some bumper 2 bumper and up to speed episodes. You’ll get it immediately and understand what we mean 💔😭
Definitely have critiques about the content, like the spoiler test they opted for a more flashy, attention grabbing dude with a nunchuck whacking it, simulating a concentrated impact load (which spoilers rarely experience) and not a distributed pressure load, like spoilers actually experience.
I mean it's entertaining, but not so much informative.
That's what got me into Donut. Seeing diagnostic work and DIYstiff. Wrenching is what I want to see. Now it's buy random stuff and Buzzfeed top 10 stuff or reaction content. I don't mind these type of videos as long as we get some wrench/project car stuff as well.
Now Zack can make a video about fiberglass repair to try and fix that Rocket Bunny wing to use on his car.
That’s a simple fix he will have it done and on in no time.
🙃
a little bondo and it's good as new!
How to fix it: don't, because hairline fractures
@@lachychops2 Don't? It's a spoiler. It sits there. Some fiberglass would fix it up good as new. Even if you get some hairline cracks, they're unsightly and that's it. You can fix those too.
I've always wanted to be sure my wing will stay in 1 piece after being hit with nunchucks. Thanks donut media!
😂😂😂 same
Bro I was scratching my head like what are the odds my car gets hit by nunchucks on it’s duckwing spoiler. Everyday I worry about my wheels having an anvil dropped on them. Funny video
@@realjoshuaW they are answering THE questions we've always had man... 😂
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Never too careful!
Thanks for this. Last week I was going to remove the tires from my REP wheels and drive them through a parking lot full of random anvils laying around.
I showed me that it would have been a catastrophe without “authentic “ wheels.
This video once and for all proved that brand-name, forged wheels are indeed probably stronger than mystery meat cast wheels. Thanks Donut!
As someone who does silversmithing (nothing like an overstressed heavy silver shank exploding under the torch) I'm gonna make a wild-assed guess. The good quality wheel along with its forging had some kind of heat treatment after, to remove the forging stress from the metal, reduce the brittleness. The cheap cast one... didn't. Both the way it shattered and the quality of the broken surface reminded me a lot of the last time I forgot to re-anneal a shank before trying to solder it while in a soldering ring clamp.
i appreciate the time and effort and production value you guys put into your videos, but please bring back some of the older stuff like up to speed and B2B. some of that content and nerdier videos were the reasons i got interested in cars, and i miss it!
Agree 👍
I think they were starting to run out of cars for up to speed. James has done an episode on practically every enthusiast car. Before we know it they'll have no choice but to do an up to speed on the Honda Odyssey lmao.
@@jimschaef Dude, minivans can be cool. Haven't you seen that one video with the Chrysler minivan doing an insane burnout?
@@jimschaef I'd watch that. they also did some cool up to speeds on history and events i enjoy quite a bit, more documentaries
Yep, I miss those days when Donut delivered actual knowledge with fun. instead of these silly f*ckin around crap.
Y'all need a collaboration with project farm for better testing methods... Lol this is kind of pure entertainment at this point.
They don’t care. Entertainment gets views. Views gets money
these good ol' backyard testing methods are the best!
@carabooseOG at this point it feels like a bunch of youtubers messing around with cars rather than car guys making UA-cam videos.
Honestly why do some of these tests if they don't even mean anything? And why even look at the wheels under a microscope when they don't even know what they are looking at? Project farm knows how to perform tests that recreate actual usage and in a repeatable way to give fair results.
@Jared Connell because they're not a science based channel? Don't know anything about Project Farm, but I've been watching Donut for some time now. And they've pretty much been all about car entertainment. Save for science garage and b2b.
Also kinda thought we’d see an actual test for the wings relevant to their use or even how they fit lol
Yes that was stupid. Thought they would try to fit them. Why would the wing need to withstand an impact.
That's what I was expecting too tbh
same here also with the rims like speed cornering idk things like that not running into a brick with them mounted in the front
@@nathanlovell4399 That was the only semi-legit test I feel like they did lol. Running into a curb is a legit thing that could happen
theres no real way to review them for there effects.
As others have mentioned, we miss b2b episodes. Bring them back into rotation!😎. I think b2b is actually what made me find the channel
Hey guys, big fan here, watched almost everything you post. But lately I can't get over this feel that I'm watching content for kids who just want to see things go boom.
I miss some of older content, with proper info, more specialized people participating, like, kinda more important stuff.
Agreed!
Yup its sad. I'm in trade school right now, becoming a diesel tech, and I will not wear any of their merch to school because I feel like people would take me less serious.
Donut media turned into something like buzz feed of the car community
@@jessecampbell4580 dude you spent money on the merch and youre too shy to wear it to your automotive job. Anyone questions it just say - mopowah baby
@76Arfa haha no not shy. I used to wear my tshirts everywhere, now they're just shirts for working around the house. The whole vibe of the channel has just changed. The hosts are all still stelar, but since they got acquired they are clearly under pressure to churn out certain kinds of videos.
Why do I feel I’m watching the same episode over and over again!
Please do some up to speed and project car stuff soon 🙏🏻
You know they make this content in order to fund the project car content .
At least this episode wasn't just a list of cars
@@_3mm so... this is just a 14 minute long ad?
@@EntyFu that’s one way to think of it, I mean they had to go thru 3 wrx and like 3-5 boxer engines. So I would be surprised if we don’t get any low-car, high-car content 😖.
Donut for life!!
I like how they did all the work and time to make a test for the seats just to call it a moot point and move on when it went differently than planned
Agreed, they just proved that there are decent reps out there.
“Let’s drop an anvil off of a roof onto these wheels without tires to prove nothing.”
What ever happened to that one video series that they did car biographies? Stories behind certain cars and their creators. I miss those.
Have also noticed this.
Now it is just a commercial tv cable station..
Those videos are not HYPEBEAST. Owners need moar money all the moneys.
I saw this comment on this video already, but I also agree with the person who said it would be an awesome collab for when you guys test stuff to team up with the guy from Project Farm. His testing procedures are absolutely amazing. Great video, as always, Donut.
I love how Jeremiah just pops in the video to blast a curb
also love that yall do these videos. really shows how bad/ or maybe better counterfeit parts can be
Didn't you guys already do a cheap knock off vs expensive brand name rim curb test already?
They did
i think more than once
More Up To Speed coming anytime soon? Tractor pulls would be an awesome topic for that.
Hopefully the Previa wasn't too damaged from that test. Y'all should do some rally/rallycross content. It's a really fun way to put cheap cars through their places, and makes for exciting videos.
This helped a lot! Thanks 🙏🏽
Instead of knock off items I just buy second hand. Works when you’re on a budget
It's 100 times better than buying fakes
Just make sure that if the item has expiration date, it hasn't passed yet.
Where do you buy?
@@DG_427 well... I did buy a corbeau seat with a fia sticker from 2018. But it shouldnt matter for trackdays and normal driving
Some people won't get it even if the 2nd hand items are at the same price with new knock off. Brand new doesn't mean it's good.
I have loved donut for God knows how long and will always massively support and love you guys, but some of the content feels recycled lately, I hope there are some big projects in the works!
I agree, they tested wheels a few months ago. It feels like the same video.
@@Dark7Wasp And it's not even a good video. The last seasin of high-low wasný as good as the previous 2 either.
I hope they have some better stuff lined up, cause this ain't it.
Looking at racing seats. Isn't this the 3rd time in recent months?
High vs low is essentially the same as real vs knockoff.
These tests all were pointless I’ve never cared about an anvil dropping on my wheel
Stop being an impatient entitled child.
So as long as you only plan on not driving sideways into a curb you're okay to buy knockoffs. Gotcha.
Jerry's performance in the intro of this video, specifically the goofy swagger in his strut, marching back to the van... deserves an Academy award.
Would love to see an update video on the HI LOW series where you take a look at the parts you put on each vehicle and see how they have held up over time maybe?
I think it would be interesting but I might be alone
No that definitely sounds like a great video idea. I’d love to see the longevity of the HiLow truck parts
once they're done with the series they're done, you see the cars are just lying about in the garage, its not like they're dailying them
I really feel like we've seen this video from them before
Testing Real vs Counterfeit Car Parts was really similar.
They did have a whole video for real vs fake wheels - it was much better than this one.
what's funny about Bride seats in Australia is that real Bride seats are illegal and are not RDA Approved but rep bride seats are fully RDA Approved and you can fit them in your car. strange that
3:26 Before my dad died he was one of the engineers that worked on the seats for all hondas from ~ 2015 - 2020 (and all the unreleased stuff like the new civic type r which was the last car he worked on) Never buy cheap seats. The reason Bride's, sparco's, recaro's etc are so expensive is mostly the name (fun fact: they are cheaper to make than the folding, heated seat you are replacing) but also they are crash tested, thoroughly. If you get into a crash in a rep seat you will probably end up with severe spinal injuries or just dead. Being FIA certified on a road car seat is overkill but always make sure it is certified by your regions automotive safety authority (for example euro ncap).
Hey Donut! I dont comment often, but every time I watch your videos you always put the yellow bar at the bottom of the in-video ad. I really appreciate yall do that! Thank you so much, I watch every one of your videos. Keep up the excellent work yall!
sponsorblock add on is a game changer
@@GarageSupra I have one on most of my devices, but my smart TV where I watch the most doesnt have a option for that. The only way around it is by adding a pi hole or something like that to my network to block that traffic. I did try a pi hole in the past and I did not have much luck with it doing what it wanted it to do. :(
BRIDE seats are super unique when it comes to knock offs. Basically there's an ACTUAL real company named BRIDE that makes seats but isn't the original BRIDE. apparently they allowed their trademark to lapse in some country, and some madman had the bright idea to buy it and send it on these "knock offs". It's all legal, there, and it's weird as heck when you look into it
What countries 😂
@@penguin350 Think it was Taiwan. A similar thing also happened with Tomei in the US.
@@jdmglobalwarehouse It figures it would be East Asia. Trademark & copyright laws over there are a giant clusterf***. Even more than they are in the west. Just as one example, in Japan animation studios & production companies are almost pathologically afraid of even saying the name of a different show that they don't own (or isn't owned by who they are working for), to the point where they will literally bleep it out like a swear.
They are afraid of being sued due to the way copyright works there. Read up on this kind of stuff and it becomes clear that copyright as well as trademark, is a giant mess over in that region. Which becomes even messier when you add the international market into things.
addendum: with anime it is not as if they have an editor bleeping things out in post. They will actually script them this way and it is usually done tongue-in-cheek. But the point remains the same, they bleep it out to avoid getting in trouble.
addendum 2: I hope you enjoyed my pun at the beginning. I am never sorry for my puns.
this would be an interesting Video for @donutmedia
Well I imagine if they their trademarked lapsed in the US, it would be a non-issue because they can show they were first to use it in commerce and continued using it during the period that it lapsed. They could just protest the person being approved for the trademark. What they should do is sue the other company for copyright infringement because the fake seat has a similar design to theirs (and every other racing seat, but the point is to financially hurt the counterfeiter and prevent them from continuing production of that style of seat).
I never get tired of hearing Nolan's vocieover for a legit Nissan commercial. Donut Media....you guys are legit AF
Love when you guys test stuff. I always assumed that ppl went cheap on safety stuff not cuz they think it's as good as the name brand equipment but think that it's still better than the stock stuff. I'd love to see you do videos testing cheap safety equipment like this seat against stockseats and other stock safety equipment.
The look of joy on Jerry's face as he guns the Previa into the curb is proof of how much you guys love your jobs 👍 keep doing what you do!
The grin on James' face when he said "were gonna go wily coyote" makes me think he's been wanting to drop an anvil on stuff forever... Wholesome childish dream fulfilled! I love you guys! ❤️
it's kind of funny how like a good 70% of this channel's content boils down to "when you spend more money you get better things"
Nunchucks guy was awesome. I loved how he just burst through the door whipping his nunchucks around.😂
Damn the Previa looks sick. Please do more cool stuff to it
Previa Moneypit season please!
100% behind this. Long live the king of mini-vans.
Also it sounds like my STI. Lol. So sick dude.
I love the Previa. it's one of the coolest Minivans to come out of Japan
The biggest takeaway from this vid is that the team has a Previa.
Intro into the bro with the nunchucks was one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life
"We spent $__ on this aero wing, and $__ on this aero wing. It's from Rocket Bunny, we even did a video about Rocket Bunny. Now let's watch this dork hit it with a nunchuck..."
What a great car channel Donut has become.
The genuine disappointment on Zach's face when the Rocket Bunny wing gets mangled is so sad. His S14 deserves so much better. Lol
It's entirely repairable with a little fiberglass resin, a paint brush, some sand paper and time.
You guys are awesome but desperately missing Up 2 Speed. Are you guys the new Mythbusters?
The slow-mo of the ESR shattering was epic.
All I know is I'm in the market for a Previa now. You guys are proving its by far the most reliable and well built vehicle ever.
i wish donut would put as much effort into their videos as they used to. the old b2b, and up to speeds were the best part of my week because of the amazing editing and the time and effort that went into the videos not this cheap vs expensive horribly done test videos every week. sad to see such a good channel die off.
James hired a huge ass staff and this is the best they can come up with. It's crazy.
Over here crying in broke as I watch you guys destroy parts I can’t afford 😢😂
That last bit was spectacular lol
Love how Jeremiah only around on the fun stuff 😂😂
i love that Donut has fully embraced making contraptions to test random shit
ikr? They're slowly turning into the car guys version of Mythbusters
Good to see the enkei's hold up so well to impact. I've been concerned about massive potholes ever since a guy a work split his wheel in half. I'm running a set of gloss black 19x9.5 enkei ty-5. So hopefully I don't have too much to worry about.
I wouldn't worry too much about enkeis. I've heard that they're much harder to split than an OEM alloy.
@@GetOffMyLog That's because most OEM alloys are the same quality level as most cheap aftermarket wheels. Often just as heavy or heavier than steelies as well.
@@heygek2769 they have to be covered by warranty so they're usually strong enough to not worry about. Reps and other cheap wheels don't have that requirement.
@@heygek2769 OEM wheels at least have more structure to them generally, they're almost never made with super thin/minimal spokes like these Enkei knockoffs.
Construction and quality is less important than sidewall height for impacts, and unless you're running those on a Truck/SUV, a pothole can easily wreck your shit. Forged or not, aluminum is way more likely to fracture than steel and performance-oriented wheels will sacrifice thickness for weight over OEM. A pothole badly bent our 2019 Kia's 17" OEM wheel, and it was a total bitch trying to find a place to repair it to my surprise. I would've rather it had the 16s since low profile tires ride like absolute shit for minimal gains and bigger wheels just add needless weight.
The Nunchuck Test should be an industry standard
I just started working in a metallurgy lab, and the wheel segment got me all kinds of excited hahaha
What I've found with cheap parts, is anything in the price range of the knock off bride seat is going to fairly decent if it's a no name seat or lesser known brand.
ya, the seat did actually really well, instead save the money if they perform closely
@@xxtimo_titanxx7189 no that Seat did worse than a swap in from a geo metro. Buy literally any other cheap seat, because a no name brand will be farther up the quality scale despite being the same price as the fake Bride.
UptoSpeed should return with a new updated Nissan Silvia video. Diving deep into why each chassis is different and explaining the international/trim differences. For example, most don't know the s13 180sx was made up until 1998, well past the introduction of the s14.
That last test was wild!!! Lol
Thank god I watched this video so I know not to drop anvils on my fake wheels
I now have a new "safety glasses" set up, thanks Jobe
What, the hat cover and safety squints method?
_"...Nolan included..."_
Nice and subtle.
I love it. 😂
You guys are like the freaking myth busters with that test
If anything this video actually proved how strong fake wheels are. As long as you dont drop a anvil on them and dont run them into concrete SIDEWAYS, they will be just fine. Haha
Am I suffering the Mandela effect? I swear y’all did this episode already…
Up to speed on Ken Block
13:09 "IDK about your welding skills" wheel reveals welding skills on the bumper
Their reaction when bro came in chuckin had me rolling😂😂😂
I feel like the 'fake' parts didn't really get a fair shake in this video
They went through the same tests and were significantly more damaged after, not sure what you're looking for.
just don't buy fake if you care about safety and performance
@@tturi2 Except that there's nothing unsafe about the products "tested" here when used as intended. Most factory aluminum and composite rims will break when strapped to the front of a Previa van and slammed into a parking stop sideways. As for a racing seat, you're actually better off with an aluminum seat if safety is that important to you.
@@aaronthomas6155 the material aluminium I'm not saying isn't up to the task, but you're willing to cheap out on wheels that frequently crack or shatter under normal use or that aren't constructed to a certain safety standard, thats your choice, the aluminium seat I can't talk for or against since I don't have the experience, but if you cheap out on a seat, that's your back potentially getting broken in a crash,
@@tturi2 I've never seen a rim shatter in normal usage. Working in collision repair, I've seen plenty of "name brand" rims break though.
If it’ll cause you to die when it breaks, don’t cheap out.
the fake wheel shatter was so satisfying
This video exemplifies the reason as to why I'd rather wait and save money to buy the real thing, than to buy a knockoff. Other than a quality product it feels nice knowing that you're supporting the people behind the product.
Genuinely pleased that my subscription helped pay for the new testing lab
The counterfeit spoiler was hit way harder than the greddy one
Think it's time to bring back the old series: Bumper2Bumper, WheelHouse, road trips, etc. Donut used to be THE best!
Hey Donut, love your videos they teach me a lot about cars and stuff. I think its already clear that the knock offs are less safe than the authentic ones, what I'm wondering is are the knock offs less safe than the stock ones? For example am I putting myself in danger needlessly by buying knock off wheels or are those wheels better than what my car already had on.
This should be a video. They've already done Real v Fake aftermarket wheels, but we need an OEM v Fake aftermarket wheel comparison video.
This is a brilliant idea
Your a genius I was thinking this too like yes they may not be “safe” but how much safer are they than stock?
OEM wheels can be hit or miss, depending on manufacturer and specific wheel. Wheels generally don't get made by the car manufacturer but by an outside brand. It does occur OEM's go to low end wheel manufacturers to get their wheels produced (example: Rota has produced OEM wheels), but generally speaking OEM's tend to stick to higher quality producers when it comes to wheels.
Great idea! I'd love to see 'average' car comparisons too, we're not all going to the racetrack but would us normies benefit from upgraded brakes/suspension?
Moral of the story...
If you don't drop a truck on your seat, nunchuck your spoiler, or drop anvils on your rims then you can buy cheap...
I got Kosei K1TS back in the day instead of RPF1. Understeered straight into a curb approaching an exit ramp, 30-40mph.
Bent the knuckle to +1.5 camber and was vibrating like mad. Held air and had no cracks, only very bent.
Was very impressed and a would buy from Kosei again.
I buy cheap parts because when they fall off on the highway I don't cry myself to sleep at night LOL
I thought you guys would have tested the rocket bunny spoiler out by checking its fitment compared to the knockoff, I never would have thought you compare them using nunchucks lol
Curious how much weight difference there is between the real and fake one. I mean its the main reason why RPF1 are so popular.
Really an important thing to cover for a comparison like this. Most of the reason people buy performance wheels is reducing unsprung weight.
I crashed a 350z with forged wheels and it just broke the suspension arm instead and launched the wheel. I don't think the strength of the wheel really matters.
I like how Jerry has just become the crash test dummy for all the dangerous stuff you guys are doing
You guys amazing I love the style man I wish work with you guys
Can we just appreciate that these guys tested/destroyed $2500 worth of car products just for our viewing pleasure?
they posting the same thing over and over they fallling off lol
..no? They make quite more than that from this vid.
A cool video idea but sadly literally none of those tests have anything to do with the usability or safety of any of these parts for the consumer. Basically clickbait at this point.
That collision was awesome! Looks like you got some air.
Donut Media is like a rapper that had a huge success and ruled the charts for a few years making crazy money, but got complacent and now lives off the revenue of his old hits, only to be a featuring artist on some new hot-shots track recycling his previous stuff. A shadow of his former self.
Thanks James!
Thanks Zach!
Thanks Jerr!
Thank you Donut Media!
Keep up this content Donut! Always engaging to watch aside from HiLow!
I miss up to speed episodes. My favorite series. Glad to see a reference here.
Y’all need a metallurgy course 😂 sincerely, someone who works in heat treatment
You guys are on point as always, given the recent spate of nunchuck attacks on car spoilers.
i normally watch every video y’all put out. i couldn’t make it thru this one. it feels like the same video y’all have put out like 5 times already just slightly different. i got into cars on the old Up to speed or B2B or science garage stuff and it feels like y’all have gone pure entertainment not any knowledge
That first nunchuck hit had me dying 😂
11:05 "what do you see?"....."metal..."
best part of this video lol
Now I know, never hit my fake spoiler with nunchucks, thanks guys! 👍 The more you know
im not really convinced that the knock offs are bad, considering these tests
knock offs are really only bad to those stuck on brand name or those using their vehicles for auto-sport.
@aaronthomas6155 Yeah, cause, like, look at the seat test. It held up against the real thing, so there is no harm in putting it in your daily drive if that's your thing.
@@armandaspiecia9619 At the point where the knock off cracked, you would have already sustained severe injuries even with the Bride seat. So why spend the extra?
If you're really looking to improve performance on the track through better vehicle control, a proper aluminum racing seat with head support would be a better option than the Bride as it will reduce the chance of neck injuries, unlike the Bride seat. Might as well save some money because if you're in a wreck where the seat actually matters, that Bride seat isn't your best option.
Love the video keep up the great work
A lot of people seem to hate on the “non scientific” test methods, but at least for the wheel, the result and analysis was definitely scientific, and definitely goes to show the point they were trying to make, well done doing this kind of “advanced” test without the thousands of dollars of testing equipment needed to do it the real way
I'm running mst time attack rims , LOVE THEM. also running ebay 20$ injectors that are 100% as accurate and flow rate as my 200$ bosche injectors...so sometimes you can save and win
Lolol I got cheap seats too... only issue with cheap seats are is they're not as light