New Spindle Start/Stop Lever - Operating The Mini Lathe Like A Pro

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @WeCanDoThatBetter
    @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому +11

    Hello, 10 page set of drawings for this project is now available for download on my patreon page: www.patreon.com/wecandothatbetter

  • @somebodyelse6673
    @somebodyelse6673 2 роки тому +9

    I've never seen a 123 block used as a fixture plate. It's obvious now that I've seen it, I doubt I'd ever have come up with that without having seen it. Thanks mate!

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks!

    • @blankroomsoup666
      @blankroomsoup666 2 роки тому +2

      You haven’t because it’s not meant to be used that way. Good quality precision ground blocks should be handled with utmost care, and for a quick setup I’d much rather make a reusable fixture sized to the vice or just drill and tap a piece of stock.

    • @TheFreshmanWIT
      @TheFreshmanWIT 2 роки тому +6

      @@blankroomsoup666 Yeah, but that is one of those cheap imports that is a "almost 1"-"Nearly 2"-"Perhaps 3" block.

    • @ToreDL87
      @ToreDL87 9 місяців тому +1

      What has been seen cannot be unseen

  • @rickpalechuk4411
    @rickpalechuk4411 2 роки тому +3

    Now you have a mini Monarch! Nicely done. Thanks for sharing.
    Cheers

  • @lensman5762
    @lensman5762 2 роки тому +2

    A long tine ago, an experienced machinist told me that buying one of these Chinese lathes, is a big project for itself. They are for sure ' W.I.P ' lathes. Your project, was very well designed and executed.

  • @philip_fletcher
    @philip_fletcher 2 роки тому +62

    This is a very good build - getting the carriage lever to work on my Bantam was the best decision. Just one minor issue: by default 'on' should be pulled 'up' with the fail safe (gravity) turning the machine off in the down position so any failure in the mechanism will not unintentionally start the lathe. This is a convention across many industries - eg dropping something on a gas or water lever valve will shut them off if correctly fitted.

    • @kbrtom59
      @kbrtom59 2 роки тому +7

      I was going to suggest the same. If the lever action ever fails, you want the off position working with gravity

    • @heinrichhemker8123
      @heinrichhemker8123 2 роки тому

      Definitely correct!

    • @an2thea514
      @an2thea514 2 роки тому +12

      Never seen a Lathe where Up is forward. Either the Lathe has a clutch and there is only Down for engagement or Up is for Reverse.

    • @philip_fletcher
      @philip_fletcher 2 роки тому +2

      @@an2thea514 It's in the Colchester Bantam manual: "With the lever in the uppermost position, forward rotation of the spindle is achieved..." - I'd attach a picture if I could. I would imagine all Colchester lathes are the same and that they followed (or led) an industry standard practice.

    • @an2thea514
      @an2thea514 2 роки тому +3

      @@philip_fletcher I know from the Colchester Student and Colchester Triumpf 2000 I have seen that that is a Lever at the Headstock and not a Power Spindle, so it's a different thing entirely.

  • @joewhitney4097
    @joewhitney4097 2 роки тому +5

    Great project and video. Using the brass hex plugs to get the hex nut drive bushing was a great idea.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @kathleenfoster9887
    @kathleenfoster9887 5 місяців тому +1

    Mr.Foster here: Firstly you do Dam good work,secondly love your engineering.and thirdly you are going to help me make my lathe better Thanks.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  5 місяців тому

      Thank you very much for your kind comment and feedback! I really do appreciate that! :)

  • @andli461
    @andli461 2 роки тому +7

    Absolutely brilliant design and craftsmanship!
    Keep posting more stuff you make. Please!

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for your kind comment! I really do appreciate that!

  • @-Gunnarsson-
    @-Gunnarsson- Місяць тому

    its interesting to watch videos like this, how easy complicated parts can be made.

  • @crpth1
    @crpth1 Рік тому +3

    Considering the subject is inexpensive mini lathes. This is absolutely crazy, unneeded and totally overkill...
    In conclusion: I love it! 🙂🙂

  • @colinmcmillan2642
    @colinmcmillan2642 2 роки тому +9

    Beautiful work as always, I was starting to get withdrawal pains awaiting your next build! Thank you so much for sharing your talent with us mere mortals.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +2

      :D Thank you so much for your compliment! I really do appreciate that! :)

  • @CoolAirVw
    @CoolAirVw 2 роки тому +3

    Ok, I was like "What in the world is that hex thing for in the last video"? Then I saw this video published this morning and started watching in anticipation of finding out what it was, then I was like "DAMN, thats cool", but then I was like. Overengineering at its best! Love the channel!

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your comment! Why do it easy when you can make it complicated ;)

    • @CoolAirVw
      @CoolAirVw 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter AMEN!

  • @TalRohan
    @TalRohan Рік тому +1

    I like that, its a really tidy idea that works brilliantly and the craftmanship is spot on

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому +1

      Hi and thanks for your kind comment! I relly do appreciate that. Happ to hear, you like it. This on off switch on the lathes carriage turned out to be extremely convenient. It was really worth the effort.

  • @markl1604
    @markl1604 Рік тому

    Important safe switch for lathe. Excellent build quality.

  • @orangetruckman
    @orangetruckman 2 роки тому +2

    Glad you didn’t loose a finger!! Your work is top notch 👍🏻

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Oh yes, I was very lucky this day. Didn't get harmed by the incident. But that was scary!

    • @orangetruckman
      @orangetruckman 2 роки тому

      Clear justification for modifying the lathe, riiigghhtt 😉 Thank you illustrating for us why the modification was done 🙃

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      @@orangetruckman Yes, that's definitely a reason. Safety first ;)

  • @haydenc2742
    @haydenc2742 2 роки тому +5

    Very cool. Case hardening is less stressful on the parts but leaves a very good hard shell on the parts.
    Keep em coming!!!!

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! How would you case harden this piece? I'm not very experienced with hardening steel.

    • @12prasad21
      @12prasad21 2 роки тому +1

      Use low carbon steel. Pack it in charcoal after machining. Keep the whole thing in your furnace at 850 C for 12-15 hrs. Quench in water. For fine finish, be prepared to retouch a few spots

    • @12prasad21
      @12prasad21 2 роки тому

      Use low carbon steel. Pack it in charcoal after machining. Keep the whole thing in your furnace at 850 C for 12-15 hrs. Quench in water. For fine finish, be prepared to retouch a few spots

    • @matejostransky7154
      @matejostransky7154 2 роки тому +1

      Artisan Makes made a pretty nice video about case hardening...

  • @RJ99729
    @RJ99729 2 роки тому +1

    I like this upgrade! It's more like a bigger machine now

  • @eddietowers5595
    @eddietowers5595 2 роки тому +1

    Every mistake is a lesson as important as any tool in your possession and why one must not rush projects.
    I like how you used a carrot as the handle.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment! Yes, I got really lucky not to loose any fingeror something or having a hole in my head from flying chuck key :/ That's really a lesson. The new lever should be much safer I hope!

  • @Carnold_YT
    @Carnold_YT 2 роки тому +6

    Great work! I'm waiting for the original lathe manufacturer to incorporate all your improvements and then buy one myself. I really like all those improvements you made!

  • @larrykent196
    @larrykent196 7 місяців тому +1

    The direction for on, hey who cares the dam thing works great, looks fantastic and cheers to you for that.

  • @francescoruggeri6901
    @francescoruggeri6901 2 роки тому +1

    Bravo sei proprio un attrezzista

  • @payton5759
    @payton5759 4 місяці тому

    UA-cam needs to get out of my head. I was just thinking of this for my lathe, which should be here soon. Great video!

  • @THusbands
    @THusbands 2 роки тому +1

    Really great and genius work.
    For hardening. Try a oil quench or a short oil quench then into water to slow down the rapid cooling. Might help prevent cracking

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment! Good hint on quenching. I think water was to harsh for C45 steel. Won't do this again :)

  • @ПетрИванов-ы6е
    @ПетрИванов-ы6е 2 роки тому +4

    Great job, as always. Like your brass sleeve solution, pretty smart one. About hardering i have a thought. To prevent cracks try to use mineral oil instead water. Crack came from fast temperature drop-off.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! I used C45 steel which was recommended to be quenched in water, but oil would probably be the better choice, yes.... Next time :)

  • @MyLilMule
    @MyLilMule 2 роки тому +13

    Nicely made. I'm thinking an oil quench versus a water quench would have been better and likely prevented the cracking.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks! Yes, next time I definitely try quenching the part in oil.

    • @cda32
      @cda32 2 роки тому +2

      If it's cold rolled wouldn't a temper cycle before machining help reduce the internal stresses too?

    • @CerealKiller187
      @CerealKiller187 Рік тому

      @@cda32 Thats what I was thinking as well.

    • @bhnjhbjhbkgkkvhnhmbm
      @bhnjhbjhbkgkkvhnhmbm 2 місяці тому +2

      And preheat the oil

  • @daye3998
    @daye3998 2 роки тому +5

    This was very well done 👍 especially the speed control by the lever it’s an awesome idea

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @blankroomsoup666
      @blankroomsoup666 2 роки тому +1

      I don’t think speed control there is a good idea, you’d be bumping into it all the time.

    • @philip_fletcher
      @philip_fletcher 2 роки тому

      At one point I designed a rotating knob on the lever to do the speed control on mine but that would've required a trailing wire which kinda defeats the object!

  • @jalechavez6042
    @jalechavez6042 Рік тому +1

    Genial...!!...Hermosa la Presión con la que trabaja...ji ji ji...Saludossss.

  • @pcka12
    @pcka12 15 днів тому

    It would be good to get a look at the whole of each of your machine tools for once, so as to be able to appreciate each set up.
    Thanks

  • @mftmachining
    @mftmachining 2 роки тому +2

    Haste wieder gut gemacht. Bei einigen Aktionen standen mir allerdings die Haare hoch. Deinen C 45 hättest du nicht härten müssen. Der ist von haus aus sehr fest und hält den belastungen in deiner Drehbank locker stand. Härten mach immer in Öl, da bist du auf der sicheren Seite, vorwärmen auf 60-70°C. Normalisieren vor dem härten ist auch ne Option. Noch n tip: Um ein Gefühl zu bekommen, wie hart oder zäh Stahl ist, mach mal folgendes: Besorg dir 3 stück 8mm dicken Rundstahl in 30cm länge. Einmal S235, einmal S355 und einmal C45. Spann jeweils die enden in den Schraubstock und versuche die zu biegen. Dann verstehst du plötzlich die 3 Kohlenstoffgehalte und die Festigkeit im Zusammenhang. 0,09%, und 0,22% und 0,45% machen einen RIESEN Unterschied. Ab S355 beisst du dir definitiv die Zähne aus. Hatte ich gerade letzte Woche....wollte einem Werkzeug einen etwas grössen Winkel geben....stand am schluss mit beiden Füssen an der Werkbank und hab gezogen...der S355 hat mir gepflegt mal den Finger gezeigt. :--D

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Hi :) Danke dir für den ausführlichen Kommentar und das Feedback! Lerne gerne noch dazu. Bezüglich härten: da bin ich erst draufgekommen, nachdem das Teil nach ein paar Tagen im Testbetrieb schon leichte Einlaufspuren bekommen hat, an der Stelle, an der der 4mm Zylinderstift auf der Stopperkulisse schleift. Das hat mich auch sehr erstaunt. Hatte nicht erwartet, dass die Belastung so groß ist. Allerdings ist der 4mm Stift auch gehärtet und die Federspannung ist nicht ganz sachte. Weil ich mich nicht nach ein paar Wochen ärgen wollte, dass das Teil schon ausgenudelt ist, bin ich aufs härten gekommen. Dummerweise hab ich zu C45 in den Messerforen und Datenblättern, die mir Google vorgeschlagen hat, nur vom Wasserhärten als Mittel der Wahl gelesen. Und mein Hirn hab ich nach dem ersten Fehlversuch auch nicht eingeschaltet und bin auf Öl umgestiegen, hab mit dem Härten an sich auch leider keine Erfahrung... :) Deswegen danke für den Hinweis, nächstes Mal werde ichs mit Öl versuchen. Wo standen dir noch die Haare zu Berge? :)

    • @mftmachining
      @mftmachining 2 роки тому +1

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter Hi, danke für deine Antwort. Das mit den Haaren: Der Versatz beim Aufreiben mit der Ahle....Die Aktion mit dem 1-2-3 Block ohne Gegenhalter....und die Aktion mit dem Sägeblatt....klar, kann man alles machen, aber für mich, der stets auf höchste Prozesssicherheit bedacht ist kommt da schon ein Stirnrunzeln raus..:--). Ich liebe nämlich die vermeidbaren Überraschungen nicht sonderlich. Zum Härten: Messerforen sind da nicht der geeignete Platz zum suchen. Es kommt bei diesen Dingen entscheidend auf die Werkstückgeometrie an. Messermacher haben da ganz andere Dinge zu beachten als du mit deinem Werkstück. Wenn an deinem Werkstück dicke Partien und dünne zugleich vorhanden sind, sind Abschreckungsrisse vorprogrammiert. Besonders wenn du schroffe Abschrecker wie Wasser nimmst. Möglicherweise wäre es besser gewesen, du hättest einen Lufthärter genommen. Der kühlt langsam und ist nicht so anfällig. Ja ich weiss, da gibt es so viele Dinge zu beachten, das kann man kaum leisten, ist eher was für die Serienfertigung.
      Ansonsten...mach weiter so, macht immer Spass deine Videos zu sehen.
      Gruss, Michael.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      @@mftmachining Haha, ja ok danke für die Hinweise :D! Manchmal mach ich einen ziemlichen Spagat zwischen möglichst hoher Qualität im Ergebnis und furchtbarer, dilettantischer Improvisation, weil die richtigen Mittel oder Werkzeuge fehlen. Beim Sägeblatt dachte ich kurz, einen Halter für Horn Stechplatten zu bauen. Aber das war mir für Zwischendurch dann doch zu aufwendig :) Kommt vllt iwann. Und danke für den Hinweis zu den Messerforen. Das ergibt natürlich im Nachhinein Sinn. Die Risse sind ja auch da entstanden, wo die Bohrungen waren. So komplizierte Formen und Eigenarten haben Messer ja normalerweise nicht. Da mag Rissbildung nicht so ein Thema sein. Danke auf jeden Fall für die Hilfe und Feedback! ;)

  • @WrenagadeWorkshop
    @WrenagadeWorkshop 2 роки тому +3

    A Very well thought out and executed modification hood sir, love it 👍

  • @girliedog
    @girliedog 2 роки тому +2

    Very nicely done; thank you for sharing this project with us.

  • @drucker03
    @drucker03 Рік тому +1

    A very useful improvement!

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Indeed, even with the lathe being so small this is so much more comfortable to use. Was definitely the right choice to do this.

  • @varjagg
    @varjagg 2 роки тому +1

    A pleasure to watch as usual.

  • @72MQuinn
    @72MQuinn Рік тому +1

    It's neat and all. Personally when I have used sewing machine servos on my projects I throw the magnetic switch out. Magnets and metal working is an eventual fail. I wire in a 10k ohm potentiometer so I have precise control of the on/off and speeds.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Thanks for your comment! Yes I know some people who installed a potentiometer instead of the orginial switch. That is a good solution too, but I wanted a proper on/off lever on the carriage like on big machines. This feels just so much more convenient to use and very ergonomically. As the original switch was already a lever type thing that worked together perfectly. Off course the magnet and sensor has to be somewhat protected from metal chips.

    • @udayawanninayake3930
      @udayawanninayake3930 Рік тому

      Can you please explain how you change detection of motor

  • @dussel07
    @dussel07 Рік тому +1

    Großartige Arbeit!!!👍

  • @thomasfkeefe
    @thomasfkeefe 2 роки тому +1

    Another very nice build. Thank you.

  • @mikemakuh5319
    @mikemakuh5319 2 роки тому +1

    Nice idea, perhaps you should explain the sewing machine motor you are using.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment! I made a video on the sewing machin motor upgrade. You find it in the infobox at the end of the video or here: ua-cam.com/video/iiIJCVngs1E/v-deo.html

  • @CraigsWorkshop
    @CraigsWorkshop 2 роки тому +2

    😁 I always wondered if someone would do this. Nice one.

  • @MaximKachurovskiy
    @MaximKachurovskiy 2 роки тому +3

    Impressive work. Wonder if there's a simpler solution for the problem 🤔

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you! Off course, I think there are simpler options, but I'm happy with the one I choosed :)

  • @Геннадий-щ8п
    @Геннадий-щ8п 2 роки тому +1

    Das erinnert an meine Konstruktion die ich bei meiner Bullcraft MD 105 gemacht habe.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Gibts das irgendwo zu sehen? Ist in jedem Fall eine angenehme Lösung.

  • @ksaweryszykiedans5839
    @ksaweryszykiedans5839 2 роки тому +10

    Nice job. If you do not mind a short remark about hardening - some alloys require to be heated up in a given pace and to be held in normalizing temperature in a proper time. Also medium used for cooling is important. It seems to me that your part was cooled down to fast - maybe oil would work better. I know that in a small workshop it could be hard - I had only a part of a garage for my "metal working" sand box. Please do not stop and keep going :)

    • @mftmachining
      @mftmachining 2 роки тому

      You´re absolutely right....even C45 is not an alloy...

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment and advise! Next time I use oil for quenching. The water I used cooled the part probably to harsh and causes the cracks.

  • @johnlocke9609
    @johnlocke9609 Рік тому +1

    Hello there! With a big resistor it can act as a clutch so you can stop the lathe with the same principal. Would be nice. But I bet I'll find a video where you already changed the motor to an AC servo.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Yes, I changed already to a brushless servo motor. You find the video on my channel.

  • @MirekDvorak
    @MirekDvorak 2 роки тому +1

    Good work. As someone mentioned here, hardening is a specific activity and different types of steel need different media. Anyway, it wants to soak in warm water or oil. Otherwise, there is a thermal shock that causes cracks. Let's say around 50-60 degrees will be ok.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment! The water I used was pretty cold. I didn't know that warm water is better. Next I try this or oil.

    • @MirekDvorak
      @MirekDvorak 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter All right, keep going. Your videos are really great.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      @@MirekDvorak Thanks! I really do appreciate that! And nice surname ;) Any relations with the composer?

    • @MirekDvorak
      @MirekDvorak 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter Just a coincidence. Although I used to play too. But "uncle" was just better... 😂

  • @anthonymarino4260
    @anthonymarino4260 Рік тому +1

    great project. well dine

  • @marcoschwanenberger3127
    @marcoschwanenberger3127 2 роки тому +6

    Very clever! One thing I'd like to point out though;
    As already mentioned, UP should be on and DOWN should be off, for safety reasons. Likewise the speed control integrated into that lever is a very clever trick, although I'd have concerns about one thing:
    If the speed must be very low (Very unbalanced Part/not super great workholding/etc.) and the lever accidentally goes down, it would go into full speed. That could potentially be catastrophic.
    Remaking the "clicky" part mirrored to have the lever be UP in the ON position would solve both problems.
    Again, other than that - Great Idea and execution!

    • @panbekon1470
      @panbekon1470 2 роки тому

      That was my first thought also. On up, off down. Great work anyway.

    • @wolf310ii
      @wolf310ii 2 роки тому +2

      You never worked on real lathe? Up = on is total counter intuitive.
      And integreting the speed control into the lever is not clever, its a bad idea, because of the exact reason you already mention.
      On industrial lathes with the speed control in the lever its down= conterclockwise (forward), middle = off, up = clockwise (reverse) and twisting for speed control

    • @marcoschwanenberger3127
      @marcoschwanenberger3127 2 роки тому +1

      @@wolf310ii All Colchester Lathes have Up-On.

    • @wolf310ii
      @wolf310ii 2 роки тому

      @@marcoschwanenberger3127 Only the very old Cholchesters with the lever on the headstock have Up=On (wich is still rotating the lever in the same direction the chuck should rotate).
      Cholchesters with the lever on the slide, like a normal lathe, have down=on, up=reverse, middle=stop

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment and feedback! Yes, some mentioned the concerns about the direction the lever starts the spindle. I copied this from other machines. Almost every full size lathe works like the mechanism I built. Down starts the spindle right and on some lathes up starts the spindle in reverse (left). For me this is very intuitive and convenient although for ultimate safety reasons that should be different, you're right. To prevent the spindle from accidental start I built the locking mechanism in the off position. That's something I also copied from the full size models. If something drops on the lever, it is expected to stay in off position and not start the machine.
      The speed control is more a nice gimmic as it was already built in the sewing machine pedal switch. I use the lever normally at full amplitude with spindle at full speed according to the max speed set on the controler. But to quickly lower the spindle speed for a last chamferring operation on your part without having to programm a lower speed on the controler, I think it's great. But you're right, there is the risk of accidentally dropping the lever down and ramping at full speed. We'll see how usefull it is. Definitely the new lever should be much safer than the pedal switch bolted to the spindle casting. The video told you how dangerous it was... Happy to still have all fingers and no hole in my head! Thanks for your input :)

  • @Farmfield
    @Farmfield 2 роки тому +2

    Best way to start the day! 😁 👌

  • @volodymyrsav1463
    @volodymyrsav1463 Рік тому +1

    good idea, great result, what solution was used to blacken the details?

  • @camillosteuss
    @camillosteuss 2 роки тому +1

    Damn, that chuck key dinged those ways for sure... Glad you got away from it with all your parts intact, but i lament the lathe nonetheless... To avoid cracks, normalize the parts first, run them once without quench, letting them cook for a while(argon purge would be marvelous for that), and then harden them... Machining can focus the already present stress in the metal and cause its own stress points and lines... Normalization either removes or greatly reduces those... And if steel warps during normalization, it would have done so had you just tried hardening it, so its no problem that was avoidable, and after normalization, there wont be further warping during the second heat treat... So you can rough machine the parts, normalize them, finish machine them to spec and harden them, warping should be absolutely minimal, enough that it will not interfere with anything rougher than an h7 fit... And nothing a bit of abrasive work wont solve, turn a custom lapping rod and work the warping outta holes with a hand drill, it will save the lathe a lot of disgusting abrasives and will allow you to vary the speed of lapping and give you amazing feedback as you have both parts in your hands and feel any resistance(defects) that the lap encounters...

  • @dermotkelly2971
    @dermotkelly2971 Рік тому +2

    great job ! Worth doing

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Thank you very much! The new switch is so convenient to use. Really worth the effort.

  • @KW-ei3pi
    @KW-ei3pi Рік тому

    A very nice bit of engineering. Well done. Have you made a video about your background, mission statement, shop tour, etc.? Thanks.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Thank you very much! I haven't done a video on that topic yet.

  • @WheatMillington
    @WheatMillington 2 роки тому +1

    I fucken LOVE this mod!! Awesome work, love the channel.

  • @chucksmalfus9623
    @chucksmalfus9623 2 роки тому +1

    Nice project, one observation, when using spiral flute taps you should not back them up while threatening, they are designed mostly blind holes and pull the chips out while cutting, backing up breaks the chip and interrupts the ejection of the chip, could cause binding and breaking.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment! When I am afraid of breaking the tap as it gets to strong, I back up the taps. But yes, M8 shouldn't break so fast... :)

  • @КалупаКалупович
    @КалупаКалупович 17 днів тому

    Обычно на всех станках поднятие рычага отвечает за вращение патрона против часовой стрелки, а опускание- по часовой, нужно было сделать 2 положения рычага.

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting project. I'm looking at it and thinking it wouldn't take a whole lot to modify what you've built to also tug on a cable operated spindle brake when the levers raised past the off position. It would only take a stubby arm added to the hex rod, and a leather brake band type setup somewhere on the spindle, or maybe a setup like one side of bicycles "V brakes" and a profiled rubber block to rub against the spindle....... It would be totally unneccecery on a hobby lathe, but it would still be a pretty cool addon. :)

    • @WireWeHere
      @WireWeHere 2 роки тому +1

      The controller he's using has an adjustable rate brake that may be able to function as a lock. I have the same drive but haven't gotten around to trying to create a lock signal. I use the brake set at 1 out of 5 on intensity so it just takes the coasting out. When at 5 it's slamming on the brake.
      A mechanical brake is still an option.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      As RJM said, you can set a electrical brake at the controller. At the moment I set it to off as it is relatively harsh even at 1 from 5 intensity ratings. But it's probably better to enable the brake again as it stops the spindle really fast in case of emergency. A mechanical brake would be usefull for cutting keyways or things like that. Here I need a solution to lock the spindle.

  • @Lone-Wolf87
    @Lone-Wolf87 2 роки тому +1

    Well done. 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @daveys
    @daveys Рік тому +1

    Nice mod!

  • @adriankohli4870
    @adriankohli4870 2 роки тому +1

    Top-Job,Sir👌

  • @the_zule
    @the_zule 2 роки тому +6

    Really nice build. As an observation, it would maybe have been better to have the “throw” of the control lever in the opposite direction so that gravity (should that happen) would default the lever to the off position… very much like electrical switches…

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks for your comment! Yes some others suggested that too. From the safety standpoint that would be the ultimative best I guess. However my built is inspired by how it's done on most full size lathes. Pushing the lever down starts the spindle on almost every lathe with such a lever. That is very common and intuitive as the spindle starts in the same direction as the lever goes. Some lathes run the spindle in reverse when the lever is pulled upwards. There is a safety lock built in as you see in the end of the video. The lever is locked in off position and has to be pushed to the right before you can push it down and start the spindle. If something drops on the lever it doesn't move because of that locking mechanism. I hope that is safe enough :)

    • @akukorhonen5182
      @akukorhonen5182 2 роки тому

      Soviet lathes work the other way around. Lever up is normal cutting direction, lever down is reverse.

  • @grossinlionel253
    @grossinlionel253 8 місяців тому +2

    Why not put an AR and reverser on the manual control Bravo for your work.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  8 місяців тому

      What is an AR? Unfortunately the controller doesn't allow a quick reverse for the spindle. You have to press a button.

  • @joeylegaspi3515
    @joeylegaspi3515 2 роки тому +1

    1:15 if accuracy is critical, using an indicator on the live/dead center would help :)

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, I've seen that before. Here it was not super critical ;)

  • @navajo179
    @navajo179 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing stuff. My my what can I say?

  • @arturobetancourth3988
    @arturobetancourth3988 2 роки тому +1

    Nice craftsmanship!
    It's better to quench on motor oil than water! Or make part out of A2 tool steel and just let the part cool on air

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment! Next time, I will quench in oil for sure. C45 is recommended to be quenched in water but after the first failure I should have changed to oil.

    • @arturobetancourth3988
      @arturobetancourth3988 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter Keep doing this nice content man

  • @andyvan5692
    @andyvan5692 2 роки тому +1

    at 16:24 this is why on the show "Forged in Fire", they ALWAYS quench parts in OIL, NOT water!!

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Yes, that was a bit dumb of me. I used C45 steel and the datasheet says to quench it in water. But after the first failed try I should have changed to oil but didn't think so far... :)

  • @tsclly2377
    @tsclly2377 8 місяців тому

    Ah.. and were is the head-stock brake? Anyway, the emergency On-Off button should be uses more often to prevent those little 'awakenings'... Install movable limit switch(es) when you do the brake. Me.. I'm installing a CNC conversion, but going to try to keep the manual function available.

  • @Salverstein
    @Salverstein 2 роки тому +1

    Strongly exellence !

  • @pawekowalski7469
    @pawekowalski7469 2 роки тому +1

    Super Project, modification👍👍I wonder how to get around the vanishing switch in my lathe.
    PL: Zastanawiam się jak obejść w mojej tokarce włącznik zanikowy

  • @arduinomaquinas
    @arduinomaquinas Рік тому +2

    Awesome job❤ 🇧🇷😉👍🇧🇷 like full 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @petrsvoj
    @petrsvoj 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video, thanks👍

  • @gagasmancave8859
    @gagasmancave8859 2 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for this

  • @therealemmpunkt
    @therealemmpunkt 2 роки тому +1

    Zum Härten: Man schreckt auch nicht in Wasser ab, das geht nur bei sehr dünnen Sachen wie Nadeln oder ähnliches.Alles andere bekommt Spannungsrisse die man teilweise noch nicht einmal sieht. Nimm Pflanzenöl, irgendwas billiges, Rapsöl z.B...Raumtemperatur oder sogar vorgewärmt. Ansonsten: Klasse👌

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Danke für den Hinweis! In den Datenblättern und Berichten zu C45 Stahl stand immer Wasser zum Abschrecken. Aber im Nachhinein macht Öl natürlich viel mehr Sinn, hätte ich nach dem ersten Fehlversuch mal nachgedacht... Danke für den Tip! Werde das nächste Mal Rapsöl bereit halten :)

    • @therealemmpunkt
      @therealemmpunkt 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter Nun C45 ist jetzt vielleicht auch nicht die beste Wahl, kann man sowieso nicht durchhärten. Aber man nimmt halt was da ist ;) Wenn du dir was zum härten hinlegen willst, guck mal ob du in irgend nem Werzeugbau 2767 oder 2379 als Reststücke bekommst. Lässt sich gut auf einer kleinen Fräse bearbeiten und du bekommst es auch in der Hobbywerkstatt noch hart...

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      @@therealemmpunkt Als ich das Material besorgt hatte, wusste ich noch nicht, dass es gut wäre, das Teil später zu härten :) Danke für den Tip zu besser härtbaren Stählen. Ich schau, ob mir was über den Weg läuft :)

  • @НиколайКрымский-б1л

    Это вообще законно? С такой ручкой включения это больше не маленький станок, это полноценный промышленный взрослый большой агрегат! Супер!

  • @stevowhitty3984
    @stevowhitty3984 2 роки тому +1

    Much safer. It seems the original switch was very close to your elbow, while working at the chuck, very bad design. Only found your channel recently and loving all the improvements you are making to the lathe.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment! Yes the original switch was just temporarely mounted to the headstock by myself. That was a potentially dangerous configuration. With the new lever I'm very happy. It should be much safer against accidental start.

    • @stevowhitty3984
      @stevowhitty3984 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter only just watching that video now where you are changing the motor. And I recognise the switch. Didn't realise you mounted the switch there. I should really watch your videos in order.

  • @DULENSHK
    @DULENSHK 8 місяців тому

    Mini beast lathe!!

  • @edfisher4881
    @edfisher4881 Рік тому +1

    Great job would like to see drawings for this project

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Thanks! I'm currently working on the drawings for this and planning to publish the drawings during the next days on my patreon site.

  • @estebanalgar3218
    @estebanalgar3218 Рік тому

    Thanks.
    What about the reverse mode for the spindle?

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Hi, to reverse the spindle you have to press a button on the electronic controller. Unfortunately it is not possible to reverse the spindle directly with the new lever.

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 2 роки тому +1

    GREAT MOD

  • @phllint
    @phllint 2 роки тому +1

    What brand of taps do you use. They look really sharp

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      It's a set from Ruko. "Maschinengewindebohrer" M3-M12 with pre-drills included.

  • @GeckoCycles
    @GeckoCycles Рік тому

    Nice. What about the treading dial?

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Thanks! I don't own a threading dial. I think for metric version a thread dial isn't that useful but I'm not really in to this subject.

  • @werschkowdennis6533
    @werschkowdennis6533 2 роки тому +1

    Super 👍👍👍.

  • @negvorsa
    @negvorsa 2 роки тому +1

    Knife forger always heat then air cool... Heat then air cool x times; before the final water or oil quick cooling!!

  • @mattlawless2136
    @mattlawless2136 2 роки тому +2

    Try a normalizing cycle on prior to hardening.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks for that tip! I means heating the part up and letting it slowly cool down again? To which temperature?

  • @HalfAssProjects
    @HalfAssProjects Рік тому

    Ты молодец, но единственный вопрос. Зачем? Не проще было просто поставить кнопку?

  • @wernerpfeifer
    @wernerpfeifer 2 роки тому +1

    Grandios!!!

  • @argentinocqc
    @argentinocqc 7 місяців тому

    Aplausos maestro!!!

  • @polakkpolk86
    @polakkpolk86 12 днів тому

    Hello, tell me what exactly you use to cold blueing a steal?

  • @craigywaigy4703
    @craigywaigy4703 6 місяців тому

    Really nice work.
    Your obviously running a VFD with RS485 interfacing - why bother with the electro mechanical switchgear that you made?
    A discrete 24v FWD/OFF/REV with pot driven speed control on the apron is far easier and more convenient(albeit both options are.vast overkill on an 18" screw cutting lathe).
    BTW Carriage mounted motor control was only popularly adopted(1960s).when discrete electronics. we're not available and manufacturer's wanted to do away with expensive mechanical clutches...
    Don't get stuck in the perception trap ie. trapped by old thinking/ technologies.
    Even better, try a footpeddle control - intuitive and natural in feel... and with emergency stop functionality too!

  • @MicaseHD
    @MicaseHD Рік тому +1

    What is the tap kit you are using?

  • @AdamMaszynotwor
    @AdamMaszynotwor 2 роки тому +1

    Dobry patent :)

  • @HarneyPhoto
    @HarneyPhoto 3 місяці тому

    very clever

  • @pawekowalski7469
    @pawekowalski7469 Рік тому +1

    I watch the movie again because I intend to do it in my cormak 330 x 700 and only now I noticed that the switch does not turn on the right and left speed, did you not want to do that?
    PL:
    Oglądam film już kolejny raz bo zamierzam w końcu zrobić to w mojej tokarce Cormak 330 x 700 i dopiero teraz zauważyłem że przełącznik nie włącza prawych i lewych obrotów, nie chciałeś tak zrobić?

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому

      Hi and thanks for your comment! Yes that is right. The controller for the brushless motor has a button for switching the motor direction. I'm not experienced enough with electronics and don't wanted to change everything on the controller so I decided to install a lever on the bedslide for general on/off which has only one switching direction. To change the direction in which the motor starts you have to press the button on the controller box. I hope that makes some sense to you. I made a video on the brushless motor and controller where the direction change is explained.

    • @pawekowalski7469
      @pawekowalski7469 Рік тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter I do not know what the electronics in your lathe at a direct current engine, I probably watched the movie, I will come back to it, I have a 1 phase engine and in addition to such modification with the switch at the support I want to change the engine to a 3 phase and add inverter to smoothly adjust the turnover, although I have a gearbox in the spindle. I want to use the L-0-P rotary switch, link with similar modifications:
      Maybe it will be useful to you
      Ps. I am weak in electronics myself 😀😀
      Nie wiem jaka jest elektronika w twojej tokarce przy silniku na prąd stały, film pewnie oglądałem, wrócę do niego, ja mam silnik 1 fazowy i oprócz takiej modyfikacji z włącznikiem przy suporcie chcę silnik zmienić na 3 fazowy i dołożyć falownik żeby płynnie regulować obroty, choć mam skrzynię biegów w wrzecionie. chcę wykorzystać przełącznik obrotowy L-0-P, link z podobnej modyfikacji:
      www.cnc.info.pl/przerobka-modyfikacja-nutol-tokarka-t6326-90.html
      Może przyda się tobie
      PS. Ja sam jestem słaby w elektronice

  • @VanFlausch
    @VanFlausch 2 роки тому +1

    Just wow^^

  • @melgross
    @melgross Рік тому +1

    I’d just like to make an important point here. If you’re going to copy the idea of rounding a part in the mill using the method he did, manually rotating the part - NEVER rotate the part so that the rotation can pull the part into the bit. ALWAYS rotate the part against the rotation the way he did. Otherwise the part and whatever you use to hold it with will be grabbed out of your hand and violently and rapidly spun around. It may hit the mill column where the handle/clamp will fly off, possibly right at you. Or it will miss the column and spring around into your hand which you won’t have had time to move out of the way.
    I don’t approve in doing this because of the danger. Metal isn’t wood.

    • @MrJake-yx8ll
      @MrJake-yx8ll 8 місяців тому

      100% agree.
      Good safety comment
      That was a true cringe moment.
      I would recommend editing the video and completely eliminating that section to not give anyone ideas.
      This is also a reason why I'm not an avid woodworker. I do not like the idea of holding work being cut with my hands. I prefer Chucks, clamps, vices etc. to hold the word piece and metal machine components to feed the cutters--not my hands❤

  • @AJVAN_
    @AJVAN_ Рік тому +1

    Why do you quench parts in water...that is the reason for the cracks

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому +1

      That's because I've read that C45 steel should be quenched in water. But that was definitely a fault. Next time I will definitely quench in oil instead of water.

    • @neffk
      @neffk Місяць тому

      4140 (0.40% carbon) will crack if quenched in water. Medium oil works, like Parks AAA.

  • @udayawanninayake3930
    @udayawanninayake3930 Рік тому

    Can you please tell me how did you change motor direction when you make thread

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  Рік тому +1

      Hi, for changing the motor direction, you have to press a button on the motor controller. That is not very convenient but I can't change this. There is a video on the channel about the sewing machine servo motor where this is demonstrated.

  • @Convolutedtubules
    @Convolutedtubules 2 роки тому +2

    8:40 center drill your holes! You can see the hole is off center as you feed the reamer in and out of the hole.

    • @NavinBetamax
      @NavinBetamax 2 роки тому +1

      ....sorry that I did not read your comment before posting mine about this just now.

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, don't know what went wrong here. Usually I use center drills first.

    • @NavinBetamax
      @NavinBetamax 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter You got it wrong. THE REAMER was not centered to the drilled hole !

    • @Convolutedtubules
      @Convolutedtubules 2 роки тому

      @@NavinBetamax I was thinking that could also be the case.

  • @backyardmachinist
    @backyardmachinist 2 роки тому +1

    Nice! Just like a big lathe. Did you put your threading dial in a different spot?

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! My lathe didn't have a threading dial. I think in the metric world it isn't so useful, but I didn't really understand how it works so far. Perhaps some day I need one and have to find a place to mount. But at the moment I have something different in mind for threading which should make a threading dial unneccessary.

    • @backyardmachinist
      @backyardmachinist 2 роки тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter Nice. I didn't know that about metric threading. Looking forward to what you come up with. Cheers

    • @wolf310ii
      @wolf310ii 2 роки тому +1

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter The threading dial has nothing to do with metric or inch.
      If you cut a thread with a different pitch than the lead screw (on these small lathes usually 2mm) you need the dial to find the correct position to close the lead screw lock, if you open the lock to move the slide back.
      If you close the lock on the wrong position, you cut a double thread.
      On short threads the dial isnt that usefull, on long threads its faster to use the dial.
      But switchig the motor constantly between forward and reverse can kill it, my boss managed to do this. Instead of using the brake or going from forward to off, to reverse, he did go from forward right into reverse until the motor said "Nope, im done". The setscrews that hold the stator in the caseing sheered off, the stator rotated in the caseing and ripped all wires off

  • @Bob_Jones_
    @Bob_Jones_ 2 роки тому +1

    awesome!

  • @bachtran5843
    @bachtran5843 2 роки тому +2

    you should have go with oil quench, water is too violent

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  2 роки тому

      Thanks, next time :) I've read water is recommended, but that was obviously not the best advice...

  • @Boblebe
    @Boblebe 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi, can you tell me what type of plates you used at minute 11:01 of the video and what tool did you use for the chamfer?

    • @WeCanDoThatBetter
      @WeCanDoThatBetter  4 місяці тому +1

      Hi, the inserts I used for turning here are dcmt or dcmg ones with polished surface for aluminium turning. The chamferring tool came with my lathe. It is a simple hss factory ground one.

    • @Boblebe
      @Boblebe 4 місяці тому

      @@WeCanDoThatBetter tankyou

  • @bubisav123
    @bubisav123 Місяць тому

    Bravo