i think its more like saying that using punch cards for programing is dead because of interpreters like python interpreter, how often do you model things from scratch than just getting them from somewhere like sketfab or megascans
Bro stop presenting this like 3d modeling is dying, it ain't. generators and procedural tools have been in the industry for ages and yet every studio has a modeling department. All this does is show how far behind the blender community is on the tech because these were discussions the broader professional VFX community was having a decade ago.
tech follows an exponential curve most of the time, it starts out slow, where only technical people know about it, and then its adapted at a massive scale by the public, these tools have been around for years of course but not readily available to the general public, there is still room for 3d modeling especially for hero characters and objects, but when it comes to background assets most artists and studios are starting to rely more on generators and asset library
It is a weird that programing and 3d are always getting kiled for at least 15 years. ) I really hope that even if AI tools will get even more advanced we still be needed)
I see this a good thing actually, cus now we dont have to waste so much time on modelling "side" models and focus on the main customized models. Basically, cuts hrs of downtime.
i think that too, but this is a double edged sword, it means less jobs for 3d artists but also means more time for artists to create content easily which means alot of content will flood the market making it harder to get your stuff standout
Not to be worried , cuz you still need the skill to know how to work with the models so. Theres no point to stress. If anything , it speeds up your workflow.
I have always understood you need to learn and continue to refine your fundamentals for all the reasons but you don’t need or have time to model everything. I’ve only been doing modeling / working with actual 3D programs (not 2.5) for 4 years but I do it everyday all day now will continue to learn forever. I am done making trees from scratch though.
hehehe yeah trees from scratch is a waste of time its alot of work and its hard to get anything good, next in line is landscapes or mountains and buildings
@@VioFax well yeah, it's supplies and demands. If it saves time for another person then of course they would buy it, so long is good and doesn't fill up the storage
@@VioFax I would certainly buy them! I keep seeing the same tree packs floating around on the 3D asset sites and most of them are dated, low poly, or just not very good. There are some great generators/plugins out there, but most them are focused on realistic trees. I've only found1 or 2 good stylized tree packs.
My hand modeled stylized work has a look that I don’t think I could capture with procedural modeling. I’m of the mindset lately that NPR work “lasts longer” than photorealistic renders. And is infinitely more interesting. My opinion.
hope i dint forget to add your point in the video but its true, anything realistic is not going to survive Ai or other forms of generating models like scanning and procedural tools
I think the title is misleading but as a person who works on AAA games and environment design for film and tv broadcast. I can say for sure that 3D modeling is still here and to stay, but studios have/will continue to use generators and custom pipeline tools to speed up the creative process so that 3D modelers can focus on the fine details more so than the broad picture of the modeling process.
i realised that, so i changed the title, but my point was that all the libraries out there like mega scans and procedural generators its going to get to a point where anything you you need is already modeled in high detail and cheap to get or you can generate procedurally, the only thing left is custom stylized things but even those we are starting to see semi-procedural workflows like meta human, vroid or 3d model libraries that focus on stylized art in different styles
Typical clickbait headline. What about product specific modelling like for tech products that haven't been released, in production? of course you don't want to model buildings etc, and trees for larger scenes so modelling isn't going anywhere. The title should be something more like 'AI helping to create multi-object scenes by replacing laborious modelling procedures'.
i think i mentioned that custom models are still safe, but anything that can be 3d scanned is going to be scanned, anything that can be procedurally made is going that route, most of that is left are stylized stuff
@@TopChannel1on1 Alot of generators don't have the quality needed to utilize other than study and if the quality isnt there, would you want to study it anyway?
@@K2unit3d yes, because the detail may not be there, but the structure or foundation is there, its actually the low quality ones i would study most, because its mostly the structure pressent so you can go through alot of them and then
true, but human models you can use tools like meta human, am sure there is are animal equivalents but if you want custom models modeling and sculpting is still the way to go
I dont think anyone should be worried about the existence/using things like this. Take pixar for example; if they need something for a film, they will develop a new program/system to help them to create the thing they need. A great example is Fizt, something they created to automate hair physics for monsters inc
only if everything will be generically the same or set in the real world - for any new injection of imagination we'll always need people to make stuff. So Fantasy and Sci-Fi (which pushes the boundaries and is not just a wanna be of something else) will require loads of artists' input. It could mean pushing the boundaries for a generator but once you reach it's limits artists will need to pull up their sleeves . Also for the same reasons we could see new exciting wave of imagination to move away from stagnant derivative work because of the limits of generators. Also if you change a lot of the default textures for these generators, author or use another generator to make fresh looking things, you can use generators to do the heavy lifting and the artist can focus on the fun stuff.
ok for props i can get behind the fact that modeling is about to die. but for characters and animals and generally alive creatures isnt the manual proccess gonna be around for a while still? Like i know meta humans are a thing but those are an ue thing only and arent really modular, right?
yes meta humans are unreal specific but there is an alternative for other application by realillusion does the same thing as meta humans and can even attempt sylized characters, animals are not really modular since they are just one piece of meat but if you have a starting base you may never have to model anything from scratch even for stylized characters
i think 3d is here to stay but the process of making it, in this case polygon modeling is changing as new ways are available and since polygon modeling is the hardest i think its slowing dying
Im honestly tired of seeing the dont learn this because ai , its like saying dont learn to drive becaus cars will drive for you, it is true into some extent, and in the future machines could do pretty much anything a human has, learning polygonal modeling is a must have to do if you wanna learn how to make generators. all you've shown in the video are generators that needs to be learned to be used. stop making stuff like this it just confuse beginners instead of helping them grow
This is utterly bullshit. These tools can help, but nothing replaces creativity. There will be a huge demand for 3d professionals in the next years, thanks to Metaverse. And the good artists will always find a place for their creations.
must have miss communicated, my point was not art dying but how old ways of making art are dying and new ways are emerging, the days of sweating polygon for polygon to make something are dying thanks to new tools like 3d scanning and procedural modeling and soon Ai, these wont be replacing art but just make it easier to do
100$? its like 1 dollar, most of the generators in the list are free, though sometimes the creators change them to paid products but its usually under 3$
Man you haven't picked the best examples for the point you are trying to make or you shoutd have chosen another title. The only example in this video showing a real alternative to poly modeling are 3d scans. All the other examples are either plant generators that have been around for ages, hair tools or scattering tools for meshes that have to be poly-modeled first... And for some reason you decided to add animaton effects to the list.
Ai space is still in its infancy but its easy to see the disruption its going to cause, people want convenience over anything and its what Ai is selling to us
it's like saying that programming is dead because there is a github
i think its more like saying that using punch cards for programing is dead because of interpreters like python interpreter, how often do you model things from scratch than just getting them from somewhere like sketfab or megascans
nope. programming is dead cuz of nocode programming , codeblocks and gpt4
Bro stop presenting this like 3d modeling is dying, it ain't. generators and procedural tools have been in the industry for ages and yet every studio has a modeling department. All this does is show how far behind the blender community is on the tech because these were discussions the broader professional VFX community was having a decade ago.
tech follows an exponential curve most of the time, it starts out slow, where only technical people know about it, and then its adapted at a massive scale by the public, these tools have been around for years of course but not readily available to the general public, there is still room for 3d modeling especially for hero characters and objects, but when it comes to background assets most artists and studios are starting to rely more on generators and asset library
@@TopChannel1on1 This aged well...
It is a weird that programing and 3d are always getting kiled for at least 15 years. ) I really hope that even if AI tools will get even more advanced we still be needed)
I see this a good thing actually, cus now we dont have to waste so much time on modelling "side" models and focus on the main customized models. Basically, cuts hrs of downtime.
i think that too, but this is a double edged sword, it means less jobs for 3d artists but also means more time for artists to create content easily which means alot of content will flood the market making it harder to get your stuff standout
@@TopChannel1on1 My take on this is, they can atleast still focus on making unique looking game assets such as sci-fi or fantasy based weapons.
@@TopChannel1on1 Its a never-ending cycle, to win you must adapt
@Nushia that's what excites me, focus on things that take up more screenspace and then other methods for background stuff
@@spikecool50 true
Can't Wait For a Future Where Every Artwork Looks The Same
then real artists can be valuable again
A telephone pole and a brick look the same regardless. I’d rather not model it all
Not to be worried , cuz you still need the skill to know how to work with the models so. Theres no point to stress. If anything , it speeds up your workflow.
true, i like that its going to be easier for us to make content that was only possible with large teams or studios
I have always understood you need to learn and continue to refine your fundamentals for all the reasons but you don’t need or have time to model everything. I’ve only been doing modeling / working with actual 3D programs (not 2.5) for 4 years but I do it everyday all day now will continue to learn forever. I am done making trees from scratch though.
hehehe yeah trees from scratch is a waste of time its alot of work and its hard to get anything good, next in line is landscapes or mountains and buildings
@@TopChannel1on1 So theoretically if I learn to make unique but high quality trees really well, people would buy them?
@@VioFax well yeah, it's supplies and demands. If it saves time for another person then of course they would buy it, so long is good and doesn't fill up the storage
@@VioFax I would certainly buy them! I keep seeing the same tree packs floating around on the 3D asset sites and most of them are dated, low poly, or just not very good. There are some great generators/plugins out there, but most them are focused on realistic trees. I've only found1 or 2 good stylized tree packs.
My hand modeled stylized work has a look that I don’t think I could capture with procedural modeling.
I’m of the mindset lately that NPR work “lasts longer” than photorealistic renders. And is infinitely more interesting. My opinion.
hope i dint forget to add your point in the video but its true, anything realistic is not going to survive Ai or other forms of generating models like scanning and procedural tools
Thanks for this! Your previous video with the paid generators was still amazing. I picked up a couple of them and they do incredible things so fast!
thats great to hear
I think the title is misleading but as a person who works on AAA games and environment design for film and tv broadcast. I can say for sure that 3D modeling is still here and to stay, but studios have/will continue to use generators and custom pipeline tools to speed up the creative process so that 3D modelers can focus on the fine details more so than the broad picture of the modeling process.
i realised that, so i changed the title, but my point was that all the libraries out there like mega scans and procedural generators its going to get to a point where anything you you need is already modeled in high detail and cheap to get or you can generate procedurally, the only thing left is custom stylized things but even those we are starting to see semi-procedural workflows like meta human, vroid or 3d model libraries that focus on stylized art in different styles
Even if 3d modelling will die,you will have to be a 3d modeller to use all these generators and every tool that "helps".
Typical clickbait headline. What about product specific modelling like for tech products that haven't been released, in production? of course you don't want to model buildings etc, and trees for larger scenes so modelling isn't going anywhere. The title should be something more like 'AI helping to create multi-object scenes by replacing laborious modelling procedures'.
i think i mentioned that custom models are still safe, but anything that can be 3d scanned is going to be scanned, anything that can be procedurally made is going that route, most of that is left are stylized stuff
@@TopChannel1on1 Alot of generators don't have the quality needed to utilize other than study and if the quality isnt there, would you want to study it anyway?
@@TopChannel1on1 I hear you 🙏🏻 just don't say modelling is dead cos it aint bruh 😉
@@K2unit3d yes, because the detail may not be there, but the structure or foundation is there, its actually the low quality ones i would study most, because its mostly the structure pressent so you can go through alot of them and then
Good concept video but for modelling i think animal and human models are some of the skills you still need can't rely on generators .
true, but human models you can use tools like meta human, am sure there is are animal equivalents but if you want custom models modeling and sculpting is still the way to go
I would like to start seeing live seasonal changes/plant growth & environmental damage in games with procedural generation.
3D Generators is terrible quality for now, so it should be fine for a few years
some are really good though, meta human, city generators there alot of good ones
I dont think anyone should be worried about the existence/using things like this. Take pixar for example; if they need something for a film, they will develop a new program/system to help them to create the thing they need. A great example is Fizt, something they created to automate hair physics for monsters inc
only if everything will be generically the same or set in the real world - for any new injection of imagination we'll always need people to make stuff. So Fantasy and Sci-Fi (which pushes the boundaries and is not just a wanna be of something else) will require loads of artists' input. It could mean pushing the boundaries for a generator but once you reach it's limits artists will need to pull up their sleeves . Also for the same reasons we could see new exciting wave of imagination to move away from stagnant derivative work because of the limits of generators. Also if you change a lot of the default textures for these generators, author or use another generator to make fresh looking things, you can use generators to do the heavy lifting and the artist can focus on the fun stuff.
Thanks for the video! keep it up! Blender make it so hard and high for the others soft Man, he put them farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
ok for props i can get behind the fact that modeling is about to die. but for characters and animals and generally alive creatures isnt the manual proccess gonna be around for a while still? Like i know meta humans are a thing but those are an ue thing only and arent really modular, right?
yes meta humans are unreal specific but there is an alternative for other application by realillusion does the same thing as meta humans and can even attempt sylized characters, animals are not really modular since they are just one piece of meat but if you have a starting base you may never have to model anything from scratch even for stylized characters
The modeling for existing stuff is dying.
Only creative non existing stuff and their creators will survive somehow.
exactly
But how u get 3d model of fantasy or sci fi assets without modeling from scratch?
i think mostly realistic modeling is going to be easy to replace
no 3d is evolving, but 2d is really started to die.
i think 3d is here to stay but the process of making it, in this case polygon modeling is changing as new ways are available and since polygon modeling is the hardest i think its slowing dying
2d dying? Look at live2d Daaron!~
I think the pineapple one would be useful if you have a pen or need to build a home under the sea.🍍
Hehehehh, it's very interesting though
Im honestly tired of seeing the dont learn this because ai , its like saying dont learn to drive becaus cars will drive for you, it is true into some extent, and in the future machines could do pretty much anything a human has, learning polygonal modeling is a must have to do if you wanna learn how to make generators.
all you've shown in the video are generators that needs to be learned to be used.
stop making stuff like this it just confuse beginners instead of helping them grow
And said generators are only there because someone made them. Quality is iffy on most and theres not generators for everything.
This is utterly bullshit. These tools can help, but nothing replaces creativity. There will be a huge demand for 3d professionals in the next years, thanks to Metaverse. And the good artists will always find a place for their creations.
must have miss communicated, my point was not art dying but how old ways of making art are dying and new ways are emerging, the days of sweating polygon for polygon to make something are dying thanks to new tools like 3d scanning and procedural modeling and soon Ai, these wont be replacing art but just make it easier to do
i agree with you but lol metaverse is dead friend.
@@radioactiveag2531 nVidia backs up this idea. It's not Facebook's Metaverse, it's much more.
@@TopChannel1on1 Yes, you are right and AI tools will help a lot, too. But 3d modelling is not "dying", it's just changing.
Thanks.
Hi, link is not working
should be now
@@TopChannel1on1 Thanks its working
Imagine paying 100$ just to generate pineapples
100$? its like 1 dollar, most of the generators in the list are free, though sometimes the creators change them to paid products but its usually under 3$
@@TopChannel1on1 oh man I was a lil high dude
Man you haven't picked the best examples for the point you are trying to make or you shoutd have chosen another title. The only example in this video showing a real alternative to poly modeling are 3d scans. All the other examples are either plant generators that have been around for ages, hair tools or scattering tools for meshes that have to be poly-modeled first... And for some reason you decided to add animaton effects to the list.
We will have to think more and more about the meaning of what is happening than about the visual...
Okay, who am I kidding, let's just make money
Ai space is still in its infancy but its easy to see the disruption its going to cause, people want convenience over anything and its what Ai is selling to us
I feel that houdini is laughing in the corner
unreal procedural content laughing at houdini laughing, but for real more and more 3d apps are adding procedural workflows, i hear c4d has it too
@@TopChannel1on1 there are literally 0 softwares that can be compared to houdini when it comes to proceduralism
bad choice of title.
true, changed it