Shad, I wanted to comment this here, because I don't believe there's a way of contacting you privately, nor do I want to invade your privacy in the first place. I recently listened to your novel, shadow of the conqueror. I'm gonna be honest, it's one of my favorite fantasy novels ever, period. I love the well developed world, it's intriguing, original, and believable. I love the characters, the concept of Dalas himself as a character particularly intrigues me. I don't know if he really developed at the story, normally id pay attention to that because I enjoy studying my novels, but I did not with this one. It's sucks you in, and I regularly found myself wanting to listen to it when I was unable to. I didn't have the time to think about if Dalan develops as a character, because I was too invested in the story. Not even to mention the amazing narration, it really makes the experience better. I'm very excited for a sequel, if there will be one, and I'll definitely be buying it regardless of if I have the money to spare or not. I would go homeless for a sequel to this story. And I would kill to know the concept.
I totally agree, the magical theory in it drew me in the most. The character growth and concept drew me in further but the world and story kept me there. The only criticism I can think of is Dalan already is a know it all, though it was explained by his old age and long lived life before falling off the edge. Even if you count it as a character that already has knowledge they don't have to earn in the story it's still very well made and overall amazing
And the obvious magic involved, were he throws and spins them and they always go back to his hands, and never damages him. If you play the OG games, the chain almost looks like a big elastic in the way it moves.
Also the fact that its a goddam video game, and they're exactly as "dangerous" as they're SCRIPTED/PROGRAMMED to be. And that these things would be utterly useless IRL. You'd be better off with a half-brick at the end of that chain.
I do think magic is a large part of what makes the blades functional, specifically with the chains. The chains in the games seem to perform much more like magic elastic bands with Kratos having precise control over their length and tension at any given moment.
Agreed, they do seem to magically unravel and re-ravel as much as they need to, as well as the blades keeping alignment alongside Kratos's superhuman strength.
Two of the failure points of real chaos blades are they don't auto retract after being thrown and they don't seem to clip through the ground when spinning.
Never could picture the Blades working well IRL. Their lethality comes from the fact that Kratos has magical control over the blades as well as the chains they're attached to, so they can lash out with precision and re-coil neatly around his arms.
Maybe not in the way Kratos uses them. The chain itself gives other benefits - for one thing, it makes it good for grappling as demonstrated in the video.
Also a big issue shown in the video is the length of the chains i personally think that if the chains were shortened, that they would function several times better
Thoughts from watching: 1) As with any unusual weapon that you've never wielded before, training will make huge differences. One day spent with a weapon can't compare to one year (or even one month of dedicated use, training, and testing). Considering what you were able to accomplish in one day of testing and experimenting, regular use and testing and training would make a big difference after a considerable amount of time. 2) It does seem using just one of these would be far more effective than dual-wielding. The chain attached to the sword, and having both hands to manage blade and chain, proved very effective in your "sparring" tests. That looks like a VERY fun weapon to wield. I wouldn't want to dual-wield these (except if I wanted to be the ultimate edgelord), as in, if I was handed both and was told I could only wield them if I committed to dual-wielding, I'd just ditch 'em. But give me just a single chaos blade with chain? I'd be perfectly happy with that as a main weapon.
I feel a lot of the chain issues are explained by the magic in the universe they were created. They would always have the perfect tension as kratos is massively strong and also they retract into the flesh of kratos as he uses them. Plus who knows how long kratos has used those babies by the time ragnarok came around
I found myself thinking on multiple occasions that while dual wielding the blades, you can alleviate the stress of throwing your melee weapons by only using one to throw at a time, thus keeping them from tangling and keeping one in case your opponent closes the distance on you. Perhaps throwing your main hand while keeping your offhand?
@@soarinpenguinlive6372 You'd find that they'd come to similar conclusions - the whole throw-and-retract thing just has zero practical use IRL _because_ you can't just magically retract the blades instantly like that, but the chain is very good for grapling. This weapon is basically a Kusari-gama with a very wide knife blade instead of a sickle blade.
18:22 I love how when he just shuts off his mind, and just lets his inner rage take over, he literally did the best throw out of all other throughout the video
Thank you for this time stamp. I found these guys very annoying and struggled to get through 5 minutes. Or maybe I'm just grumpy today. Whatever......I'm skipping to your time suggestion.
Well from the way they were using it they made it awkward on themselves If they went for the stance kratos has in the game were he swings the chaos blades next to him rather then over the head you could get some decent propeller esc moves out of the two blades And I'm pretty sure the only reason a large amount of the moves in the game work is due to magic and kratos having alot of practice with the wepons
@@someoneudontknow3709 Correct and plus in the gaming realm there is no such thing as logic or reality when it comes to games like God of War among others and that is why we like them so much.
@@JustTooDamnHonest I'm still curious as to how affective they can be as wepons if weilded by someone with more skill For example say we took out the edge alignment and chain length issues ( wich can be fixed if the blades had a redesign) what moves could be pulled of with what basically amounts to a sharp mace on a rope which I could swear there were martial arts dealing with a similar wepon
I just wanted to add that Nate and Tyranth are great co-hosts, and Shad's contributions to the discussion after they'd borne the demonstrative destruction upon their own bodies also worked well. I know that going this way was a difficult decision, but this is a great dynamic you're building here and the channel is clearly in good hands.
That Castle front prop is legit man! I love what you guys have done this last year or two. God bless from the UK, you have many fans here as well by the way.
@@zach415 we should crowdfund him like $500 million for an actual period replica castle with original materials and craftsmen :D The Fortress of antiwoke!
Tyranth and Nate I just want to say you two are a awesome addition to Shadiversity's team. I haven't played God Of War but I'm crazy about Greek Mythology so I might give them a go.
Honestly, I think this convinced me that these would be super effective weapons for someone like Kratos. I mean, demi-god/god strength and reflexes plus a little magic to help the chains wrap around his arms? I would be absolutely terrified to face this man and I could see how he could take on hoards of enemies single handedly.
I think you guys missed a historical weapon that is much more similar to the chaos blades and it happens to be one of my favorites, the chain whip! It’s a Shaolin martial arts weapon that uses specialty links of chain from a handle to a metal dart on the end. The chain whip was believed to be primarily used by police forces in ancient China because of it’s practicality in restraining your opponent with joint manipulation techniques. Another one would be poi coming from New Zealand, it’s basically started out as a rock attached to a long rope. I can’t remember if it saw combat or was primarily used in training, but in the modern context it’s become a form of artistic object manipulation. Many of the techniques used for poi and the chain whip would make using the ranged attacks with the chaos blades much more practical. (Same could be said for the Chinese rope dart, and multi section staffs)
@@shadystuff673 Like I said in the latter part of the comment, the techniques used can make the chaos blades practical. There’s not much historical precedent for ranged flexible weapons, mostly because they are very unwieldy, require very high degrees of skill, and are less effective compared to other weapons like the pole arm or spear.
I think that a lot of the difficulty in using them that y'all experienced was all the excess chain you had. Kratos didn't have near as much slack. It was always coiled around the forearms. That left him able to control the chains much better and able to keep things from tangling.
I'll be honest, one of the best videos on this channel for functional fandom. I really enjoy Tyranth especially but all 3 of y'all just had good on film chemistry and makes for a very entertaining video. Hope your health gets better Shad
I'm really liking having new hosts on the channel, you guys bounce off of each other really well which makes the video more fun while staying as imaginative and 'nerdie' as the older videos
story time : I made actual metal blades of chaos in my teen years. My father had a friend who had a forge and so during my teen years as a cosplay/skit. we made the blades of chaos out of actual proper metal so I could do a pre niche cosplay or just have them and play around. they were heavy as fuck but were absolutely beautiful. the amount of shelves and stuff we knocked over tryna do tricks n stuff and bruises n cuts we accidently gave ourselves from the metal. when I did a pretty budget cosplay for a convention that happens annually in my city me and my close friends who went as captain America and over watch Brigitte with actual metal shields that we also made with our parents, we went for some fun and show off our work. unknowing to us the convention changed the rules that year that ANY metal items and such would be confiscated. yet they were only confiscated after you already entered, paid for ticket, waited in line etc etc, because they were "too dangerous" or assuming we would intentionally k1ll someone, even tho the convention sold actual sharp hunting bowie knives and our mere cosplay toys were pitiful in comparison. a lot of people lost their cosplay/cool metal trinkets and weapons that day and they weren't given back even after to us as to the police they were considered "weapons" and "needed to be taken off the street". the convention failed and it went under new management fortunately the following years after flopping harder then Kanye's career. still miss those big mean metal chaos mf's Edit : my comment about kanyes carreer was a simple joke, stop arguing politics and taking things seriously to heart. Yal mfs are chronicly online.
@@sehalos this was many years and you cant exactly just sue in my country. You make a CC claim or make a complaint . And what happened was the court just sided with the police and said "nah they were deadly weopons they had to go and we dont trust you" (even tho they sold deadly weopons in the convention but they were fine ig) then thats it. Most people got refunds for their ticketd but that was it. Pretty fucked.
@@BaldorfBreakdowns apparently not cus the police ruled 'they were illegal weopons" or some scuffed shit, was fucked asf. Wer def on some power trip ruining a bunch of happi geeks days
definitely love the new additions to the channel! its a risk changing the format up to this extent but it has very much paid off. I also think this was a perfect video to have the new lads do. The physicallity involved swinging those blades would probably have left shad incredibly exhausted and the dynamic between you three is already great!.
What a great video, love the whole crew and the new energy! Shad I'm so glad you still are very much a part of the videos and love your goofy bits as the boss! Excited for the next chapter of Shadiversity
It seemed to me, that the chains were burnt into Kratos' underarms, as in, they seemed to be somewhat immovable on his Arms, so maybe, if you were to re-test it, you could try to fix them on gauntlets. The chains also seemed to extend their length, as it seemed like Kratos is able to throw them further than what their length would suggest when he holds them in his hands. So, maybe you could look into applying something to make them retractable? Otherwise, using dartrope techniques could be useful in handling them (in a Reallife scenario, even though that's not how Kratos uses them).
The length of the chains is a little bit of magic that helps with the gameplay; it's a design trope you'll never be able to un-notice when you see it from now on.
@@Stop_Gooning I assumed as such. I just didn't want to just say so, since I just recently got into GoW and am not that familiar with the pre-norse Storyline, so it could have been explained in one of the original greek Games, and I'm just unaware. I knew there was some magic involved in the Chaos Blade chains, as the chains seem to attach to and dettach from the blade hilts, when Kratos puts them on his back. Or at least i've never noticed there being any chains when they're on his back.
@@derskalde4973 the blades themselves are made out of the Primordial Fire, so the details about how they'd actually function get handwaved as "magic" (my words not theirs). Think of it like the chains on Spawn's suit; they'll kinda figure out where they need to be to get the desired results
Yeah, big thing I wanted to call out was the idea of treating the chaos blades as rope darts and using their "shooting" rather than the spinning style. From personal practice, a simple elbow shoot is pretty easy to learn and really effective at creating a powerful and accurate strike.
Main Problems with the chaos blade that weren't mentioned: The weight of the "real" metall chain in comparison to the blads weighte shifts the point of ballance much closer to the user and reduces it's momentum at the tip a lot. In normal terrain there are many bushes, trees, ... which limits the range of the spinning a lot. if the oponent walks into the range of the spin and blocks the first hit (which is pritty easy, caus you know the timing and rough direction) the blade would fall to the ground. Until you have it swirling again or in your hand, the oponent would be in close range pritty easily while your hands are slowed down by the heavy weight. Don't underestimate the heavy chain. You can't block a hit with the chain when it's held up like in 8:00 . Your hands would get pulled together and you would get hit (mayby a bit weaker but still deadly without armor). Still thanks a lot for the test, waiting for part 2 :)))
Shad is rather brave to let others get the spotlight of the show and let them play around. The acting reminds me of when my siblings and I fought with invisible enemies with sticks, well done guys!
The biggest difference I think between Kratos' animations and Tyranth's testing of the spinning maneuvers sadly does come down to Kratos being superhuman. Kratos needs very little wind up (if any) to get the full effect of a strike with the "ranged" aspects of the weapon, whereas Tyranth needed at least two full rotations to (seemingly) feel comfortable making a strike with the weapon, to get up enough momentum as it were. Especially in the cases where Tyranth was trying to use both of the chaos blades at full reach, having to build up momentum with rotations just ended up tangling the two chains. Whereas with Kratos' animations, he just lets them fly because he has enough strength to overcome their inertia without "winding them up" first. It really is a situation where (I think) the developers of the game went, "What would the ramifications of his super strength be?" and found something cool that Kratos could do that could seem realistic, given suspension of disbelief, that wouldn't really work in real life because no human is that strong. I would love to see a bodybuilder or strongman take a stab at these (pun intended) to see if maybe they could get a bit more out of them ... D'ya think we could get Jorge from the slingshot channel to make a quick video about it? XD
talking about momentum, if they were to add an additional weight to the wooden ones it would work a little better it seems, do not forget momentum is mass times speed, so the more mass the easier it would be to build up momentum from the spin.
Also I feel like another part of the factor is that Kratos has had the Blades and used them for possibly centuries of training himself how to use them.
I believe it's not only strength but what they didn't touch upon is the fact that the chains are seared to hi flesh and have a magical enchantment on them unless they can make that real the weapon is highly impractical in real life 😊
Tyron's commitment to really give it his all was amazing. Great job to Nate too, however Tyron really made me feel confident that there's no way I could've done any better if I was there myself. Well done!
I really like the addition of the new hosts, Shad and them have really good chemistry and are good on camera with each other, and tyranth and nate are both fantastic and funny and knowledgeable. I really think the decision to hire new people is a win-win for you shad. Great video as always
I love Functional Fandom. Love the whole "Mythbusters: videogames and fantasy edition" part. Just *so* interesting. Thank you so much for all the hard work you do.
A bit of magic crafting, a bit of superhuman juice and this works. It's flashy, it's intimidating. That's pretty much what I would call perfect for a fantasy setting in which a very angry man kills gods
Tyrant was getting more and more proficient with releasing the blades each time he did it. A lot of these seem like it's all about comfort and training with these, in ADDITION to proper material and weight.
Yeah, I see the Blades of Chaos being somewhat gimmicky, but within the context of God of War they actually make sense. *Number 1* is the strength factor. By the time Kratos gets these, he's already been annointed by Ares and thus has plain old superhuman strength. *Number 2* is the training factor that you mentioned. Kratos is the kind of bloodthirsty murder machine that values skill, and by extension practice. He'd be plenty willing to practice for months and years in order to perfect his technique. The end result is an incredibly gimmicky but actually very useful pair of weapons that are designed for a superhuman warrior. They're *not* meant for regular men. But in the hands of someone like Kratos they're not only incredibly powerful swords, the chains give him a unique advantage in how he can use them for long-distance attacks and sweeps.
@@SoftisNelaris I see it as an extension of a blade whip or meteor hammer, some techniques might not work the way Kratos does it offhand, but a Kung fu practitioner trained in chained weaponry would be able to make better use of them.
Also adding more weight would make the blade spin less against wind resistance. I’d be really curious to see someone design functional chaos blades that apply physics to see what they look like in real life. The main issue I see with them is at range your attacks are very predictable because you’re attacks rely a lot on the spin of the chain so it’s very choreographed. So at range you run the risk of an enemy just grabbing the weapon or the chain and taking it from you. Personally I’d probably trade the blade for a heavy spiked weight or a morning star that can produce momentum much faster and the chain itself would then serve as a weapon because there is just so much force behind it.
The only thing I can think of is if you got somebody bigger and stronger say about 6:05 and 250 lb with good conditioning and somebody who's experience with chain weapons that might emphasis on might make them kind of usable
I really like the new Shadiversity, when you said you would be less active and taking more rest it was obviously hard for you, but I really love the new style and like to see more of all of you :)
Loving the new group dimamic feels alot like mythbusters - been watching for a long time and as much as I miss the shad solo I'm enjoying the team dynamics and the energy you three bring. Keep up the amazing work
Thank you Daniel, Shad has a great team behind him & we're all doing our best to give him a break when he needs it, while still creating amazing videos for everyone! (edit: spelling)
@@NateV-SwordSavvy you guys do a phenomenal job. "Functional fandom" is perhaps my single most favorite aspect about this channel. Mythbusters: the Fantasy edition = SO much fun.
I think the whole functionality comes from the chains weight. You guys are using very lightweight chains which don’t have enough weight to accelerate fast enough. They need to be balanced weight wise like a Kusarigama. Also a lot of technique needed mainly in timing between your dominant and non dominant hands
I enjoyed to two new hosts, especially the guy that was able to do flips (sorry don’t remember your name). I will say, having Shad’s input through out the video will keep the original fans happy, so keep doing that.
Just a small thing I think I noticed : Kratos tends (as you guys said) to aggression with the chaos blades. He also commits at lot more in his motions ie. He uses his shoulders to throw the blades more than his elbow.
It partially comes down to his practice with them; the Shadiversity crew only tried them out for a few hours, Kratos got to practice for months and years. The other half is the superstrength factor. Kratos can immediately get the heavy metal blades and chains to maximum power instantly despite their weight. These two factors make it much easier to get that kind of performance out of what are, frankly, a very offense-oriented pair of weapons.
A more functional version of fantasy weapons on chains I can think of would be Medusa's chained dagger from the Fate series But some issues with those would be that they're more like stakes than daggers, the chains aren't actually connected to anything so they're fly around if not held (not to mention they're quite long), and the only real way to get a fatal strike with them is to throw it
As much as Medusa is Best Girl imo, I must say that her daggers are possibly the single most ineffective chain weapon I could possibly think of, for the simple fact that only someone with her physical ability would ever be able to throw them and have them fly in a straight line. Those things are another example of what I like to call "Superhuman Physics," where the dynamics of regular physics don't really apply. In this case, we'd end up in another situation like the BoC where a human couldn't possibly get conventional physics to work with them. However, Medusa does use the chains and the nails in a very conventional way, and we see it time and time again: grapples. She's really damn good at using those chains to manipulate her opponent, and that's definitely what you'd wanna do, especially if you're working with what are basically a pair of railroad spikes attached to handles. Using the chains in tandem with your speed to trip up and bind your opponent enough so that you could get a solid opening to drive the point home. In fact, I think we see her do that more often than we see her actually throw the daggers.
I’ve been watching for almost a year and never comment but just wanted to share my support for the new content! Absolutely just as entertaining as glad shad is getting a break and focusing on health!
You guys should try making a more functional version then retry the testing Also, Shad I wish you the best with your health condition and hope you het better. I also think you should take a look at Wim Hoth breathing, it’s an interesting breathing technique that I think might be able to help even if it’s only a little bit…
@@dragonriderabens9761 something that’s affecting his cardiovascular health as well as hurting his sleep cycle, making him get more tiered easily. Recently made an update video about it recently that goes into a bit more detail but it’s the reason he had his friends do most of the physical work, doing that stuff himself takes a toll on him.
You mean Wim Hof? If there's anyone who knows how to breathe against the odds, it's him; he should be dead, many times over. All of this health talk is just a part of a conspiracy to make Shad even more over-powered. I'm worried where it might end.
This is great! I started learning knife dart or Kyoketsu not to long ago! The chain with 1 you need both hands to control. Ive seen in movies and games they use 2 but think the reality is like its not as practical. Pretty sure thats why the Chaos Blades change their length based on need with magic. Which would allow for 2 being used no problem. One thing to note that I noticed. It looked like you had the chains attached to the sides of the grips instead of the back of the pommel. That definitely affects the aerodynamics and think thats why they were getting caught more on you and tangled. Great video! Always wondered if theyd work in the real world haha.
I would love to see your guys interpretation of a more useful/practical version of the chaos blades, made with retractable cabling etc but I'm also glad no one was hurt, every time the blades started spinning I was waiting for the bonking on the head, great work guys
We might need a rope dart master to use these like the game but if they simply switch to spinning the blade up and down, then over the head, would simplify this to handling like whips but the length of chain control is very difficult without magic ;)
Watching Tyranth. Yep I see why Shad didn't do the physical parts of this video. That looks exhausting. Part of what makes Kratos blades more functional is his fantastical strength and endurance. The one the thing you can't really test. His acceleration on the aerial version helicopter spin in the first game is impossible for a normal person and ridiculous even for him. But a lot of the moves Tyranth did he just need superhuman acceleration to do more effectively. Yes more metal more weight would cut through the wind resistance better but thats also more exhausting. Kratos is literally never tired if he isn't grievously injured first. Also something not considered is the metal chains. The weight of the chains and the nature of the material they are made of affect the wind resistance on the blade regardless of if the blade is wood, foam, or metal. Think about if you formed the chains of rubber bands. It'd completely change the functionality of the chains. The plastic chain is closer to the metal in elasticity, but it lacks other qualities. Another commment also mentioned using a gauntlet to simulate how the chain is seered to Kratos forearm. This would also affect the spinning axis greatly especially upon release. I'd speculate when retrieve the blade you could do two part jerk. One to bring the chain to the hand by jerk the foream then another once you grab it.
Well Kratos IS the son of Zeus...like Hercules was and we know that guy's name is synonymous with inhuman strength. XD but this was a fun video and it's nice to see other people working with you, Shad :) also pls guys do functionality on Corvo's blade from Dishonored.
The Castlevania: Lords of Shadow series and some fight scenes in the anime may also provide inspiration for flexible weapons on chains and/or ropes. As do, of course, actual rope dart and meteor hammer techniques.
One of the things that could help these blades are sharper edges, because in the game once you get past the sharp edge it is met by a ledge which in tandom with the sharp edge could help with throwing. Because the sharp edge would cut through the wind like the wing of a plane, while the sudden ledge would stabilize it so the sharp edge is going for the enemy.
This is why the kusarigama was used with the weighted chain as the thing you threw/spun most of the time, keeping the kama end in your hand. Yes, there are moves that throw/spin the kama, but there are far fewer of them. It’s not as balanced. If I had a choice, I would not choose the Chaos Blades. I would go with something a little more practical. Like a zanpakto. Or a 7D Marauder. ER PPC x2 + Class 5 Rotary Autocannon + Targeting computer from 300 meters away > Chaos Blade with 15 foot reach.
i didnt find a rewiev on Tengen's Niichirin Cleavers from Demon Slayer so i hope this helps on a degree, since the weapons are kind of similar Pehabs you can rewiev them also
Loving the video! If i can comepletely nerd out for a minute, I think in universe, the blades are somewhat sentient, because Kratos states that they came back after he tried to get rid of them (i think he even said he tried to get rid of them multiple times, but i cant properly remember). So it's possible that the blades themselves choose to assist Kratos by landing in his hands perfectly, always keeping the edge alignment perfect, and never allowing the chain to get tangled or in the way.
I'd love to see Shad go over Link's technique from Breath of the Wild. Especially his way of using much larger swords like claymores. In this game, specifically, Link is said to be the best swordsman in Hyrule. There are also a lot of variety of weapons in the game that seem both practical and impractical , and I'd love to see Shad talk about them
Shad, I wanted to comment this here, because I don't believe there's a way of contacting you privately, nor do I want to invade your privacy in the first place. I recently listened to your novel, shadow of the conqueror. I'm gonna be honest, it's one of my favorite fantasy novels ever, period. I love the well developed world, it's intriguing, original, and believable. I love the characters, the concept of Dalas himself as a character particularly intrigues me. I don't know if he really developed at the story, normally id pay attention to that because I enjoy studying my novels, but I did not with this one. It's sucks you in, and I regularly found myself wanting to listen to it when I was unable to. I didn't have the time to think about if Dalan develops as a character, because I was too invested in the story. Not even to mention the amazing narration, it really makes the experience better. I'm very excited for a sequel, if there will be one, and I'll definitely be buying it regardless of if I have the money to spare or not. I would go homeless for a sequel to this story. And I would kill to know the concept.
Congrats on the heart and pin
I totally agree, the magical theory in it drew me in the most. The character growth and concept drew me in further but the world and story kept me there. The only criticism I can think of is Dalan already is a know it all, though it was explained by his old age and long lived life before falling off the edge. Even if you count it as a character that already has knowledge they don't have to earn in the story it's still very well made and overall amazing
@@nipplepotamus6211 very excited for a sequel, if ever it does come.
@@islandimus3370 1000% excited to explore more of the world, characters, and magic system!
Dude, how much do you think books cost, and can I sell you one at the same price?
I agree it is a fantastic story.
I think a lot of the danger from the blades of chaos is Kratos’ limitless strength backing them.
That and the fire
Well the Blades are made of primordial fire magic.
And the obvious magic involved, were he throws and spins them and they always go back to his hands, and never damages him. If you play the OG games, the chain almost looks like a big elastic in the way it moves.
Also the fact that its a goddam video game, and they're exactly as "dangerous" as they're SCRIPTED/PROGRAMMED to be. And that these things would be utterly useless IRL.
You'd be better off with a half-brick at the end of that chain.
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 fun fact, Kratos has a bonus costume where the blades are replaced by a pair of suitcases.
I do think magic is a large part of what makes the blades functional, specifically with the chains. The chains in the games seem to perform much more like magic elastic bands with Kratos having precise control over their length and tension at any given moment.
Agreed, they do seem to magically unravel and re-ravel as much as they need to, as well as the blades keeping alignment alongside Kratos's superhuman strength.
Nope. They work like fishing reels. The chains are implanted on each arm.
🎯 💯 great point.
Me? I've always thought of the chains working like... Slinkys/Slinkies (however u spell it) lol...
Indeed. Kratos can kinda just "will" the blades back to his hands
@@astranix0198 yea they are seared to the flesh and to release them is to pull them away causing the skin to avulse painfully
Use a cannon to launch the swords to simulate a fraction of Kratos' strength
Ballistica
Great idea, also douce it in oil. So we simulate the fire to an extent as well.
@@hiiamelecktro4985 Burning down my set speedrun.
@Billy Oak More like actual literal divine protection. He's a full-on god in most of the games.
@Billy Oak HAHAHAHA ok troll
Two of the failure points of real chaos blades are they don't auto retract after being thrown and they don't seem to clip through the ground when spinning.
Let’s not forget there not being AOE damage
If you are strong and precise it does
kratos be tearing through the ground with the blades not that they are clipping through it
The most important element missing here is strength lolol
Kratos is just spinning them so fast that phase through the ground
Tyranth and Nate are a really awesome addition to the Shadiversity team
Cheers DemonOfGadara, Tyranth is an amazing guy to work with!
Such a great group dynamic
Yessir
Never could picture the Blades working well IRL. Their lethality comes from the fact that Kratos has magical control over the blades as well as the chains they're attached to, so they can lash out with precision and re-coil neatly around his arms.
Maybe not in the way Kratos uses them. The chain itself gives other benefits - for one thing, it makes it good for grappling as demonstrated in the video.
Well it depends on the weapon, and the man
I think the magic part is only how long they get and the recall. But the wielding is all based on his strength
Also a big issue shown in the video is the length of the chains i personally think that if the chains were shortened, that they would function several times better
4:25 can't believe you pulled that off, that was so dope!
Thoughts from watching:
1) As with any unusual weapon that you've never wielded before, training will make huge differences. One day spent with a weapon can't compare to one year (or even one month of dedicated use, training, and testing). Considering what you were able to accomplish in one day of testing and experimenting, regular use and testing and training would make a big difference after a considerable amount of time.
2) It does seem using just one of these would be far more effective than dual-wielding. The chain attached to the sword, and having both hands to manage blade and chain, proved very effective in your "sparring" tests. That looks like a VERY fun weapon to wield. I wouldn't want to dual-wield these (except if I wanted to be the ultimate edgelord), as in, if I was handed both and was told I could only wield them if I committed to dual-wielding, I'd just ditch 'em. But give me just a single chaos blade with chain? I'd be perfectly happy with that as a main weapon.
That is because your a mere mortal and not a true Spartan!
I feel a lot of the chain issues are explained by the magic in the universe they were created. They would always have the perfect tension as kratos is massively strong and also they retract into the flesh of kratos as he uses them.
Plus who knows how long kratos has used those babies by the time ragnarok came around
I found myself thinking on multiple occasions that while dual wielding the blades, you can alleviate the stress of throwing your melee weapons by only using one to throw at a time, thus keeping them from tangling and keeping one in case your opponent closes the distance on you. Perhaps throwing your main hand while keeping your offhand?
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You'd find that they'd come to similar conclusions - the whole throw-and-retract thing just has zero practical use IRL _because_ you can't just magically retract the blades instantly like that, but the chain is very good for grapling. This weapon is basically a Kusari-gama with a very wide knife blade instead of a sickle blade.
18:22 I love how when he just shuts off his mind, and just lets his inner rage take over, he literally did the best throw out of all other throughout the video
He engaged his spartan rage-
Thank you for this time stamp.
I found these guys very annoying and struggled to get through 5 minutes.
Or maybe I'm just grumpy today.
Whatever......I'm skipping to your time suggestion.
Even as impractical as these blades are. They succeed in the rule of cool and Kratos would agree.
The chemistry between these 2 is hilarious.
@Pap DM "Even hateful things have their uses" - Kratos
@Pap DM o po
Well from the way they were using it they made it awkward on themselves
If they went for the stance kratos has in the game were he swings the chaos blades next to him rather then over the head you could get some decent propeller esc moves out of the two blades
And I'm pretty sure the only reason a large amount of the moves in the game work is due to magic and kratos having alot of practice with the wepons
@@someoneudontknow3709 Correct and plus in the gaming realm there is no such thing as logic or reality when it comes to games like God of War among others and that is why we like them so much.
@@JustTooDamnHonest I'm still curious as to how affective they can be as wepons if weilded by someone with more skill
For example say we took out the edge alignment and chain length issues ( wich can be fixed if the blades had a redesign) what moves could be pulled of with what basically amounts to a sharp mace on a rope which I could swear there were martial arts dealing with a similar wepon
I just wanted to add that Nate and Tyranth are great co-hosts, and Shad's contributions to the discussion after they'd borne the demonstrative destruction upon their own bodies also worked well. I know that going this way was a difficult decision, but this is a great dynamic you're building here and the channel is clearly in good hands.
im the 69 like just wanted to say that non of yall like we need to keep it this way
That Castle front prop is legit man!
I love what you guys have done this last year or two.
God bless from the UK, you have many fans here as well by the way.
I don’t think it’s a prop. I think Shad just built a full on medieval castle in his suburban neighborhood
@@zach415 we should crowdfund him like $500 million for an actual period replica castle with original materials and craftsmen :D
The Fortress of antiwoke!
Tyranth and Nate I just want to say you two are a awesome addition to Shadiversity's team. I haven't played God Of War but I'm crazy about Greek Mythology so I might give them a go.
If you have playstation plus ultimate or whatever its called you can play 1-3
@@wo1verine1ogan I've got a PlayStation 4.
@@velociraptor3313 still is on there, its a different tier of playstation plus
I'm enthralled with the idea of The Chaos Bricks.
Honestly, I think this convinced me that these would be super effective weapons for someone like Kratos. I mean, demi-god/god strength and reflexes plus a little magic to help the chains wrap around his arms? I would be absolutely terrified to face this man and I could see how he could take on hoards of enemies single handedly.
They would still be reducing the power of his super strength. Comparably, with the axe he should be splitting every enemy on one hit
Props to Tyranth for pulling off those Kratos jumpy spinny attacks, cant of been easy in the heat.
Lol the “heat” where their from is literally fckin 30° . People in Europe don’t realize how hot the rest of the world is
@@tallonmartin1726 Australia buddy
@@ballsackkin someone from Australia especially should understand 30° isn’t that hot compared to even their temperatures at times
@@tallonmartin1726 yeah, It is so hot Toronto
can't have*
I think you guys missed a historical weapon that is much more similar to the chaos blades and it happens to be one of my favorites, the chain whip! It’s a Shaolin martial arts weapon that uses specialty links of chain from a handle to a metal dart on the end. The chain whip was believed to be primarily used by police forces in ancient China because of it’s practicality in restraining your opponent with joint manipulation techniques. Another one would be poi coming from New Zealand, it’s basically started out as a rock attached to a long rope. I can’t remember if it saw combat or was primarily used in training, but in the modern context it’s become a form of artistic object manipulation. Many of the techniques used for poi and the chain whip would make using the ranged attacks with the chaos blades much more practical. (Same could be said for the Chinese rope dart, and multi section staffs)
Well the chain whip is like a thick needle on a chain
And the second one is basically a mace or Morningstar and none of these are the same as a axe sword on a chain it’s basically
@@shadystuff673 Like I said in the latter part of the comment, the techniques used can make the chaos blades practical. There’s not much historical precedent for ranged flexible weapons, mostly because they are very unwieldy, require very high degrees of skill, and are less effective compared to other weapons like the pole arm or spear.
I need to say this... I loved that we have more of the cast with a voice on the videos. Different points of view are very nice for a change
I think that a lot of the difficulty in using them that y'all experienced was all the excess chain you had. Kratos didn't have near as much slack. It was always coiled around the forearms. That left him able to control the chains much better and able to keep things from tangling.
And the chains and blades were WAY heavier
@@Vending_machineryyh if I had em I’d wrap em around my forearm and use metal blades
@@jaysketchy96 wouldn't everyone?
@@Vending_machineryyh wish he used them properly
The main issue is he doesn't know how to swing them nor through it
I'll be honest, one of the best videos on this channel for functional fandom. I really enjoy Tyranth especially but all 3 of y'all just had good on film chemistry and makes for a very entertaining video.
Hope your health gets better Shad
I'm really liking having new hosts on the channel, you guys bounce off of each other really well which makes the video more fun while staying as imaginative and 'nerdie' as the older videos
story time : I made actual metal blades of chaos in my teen years.
My father had a friend who had a forge and so during my teen years as a cosplay/skit. we made the blades of chaos out of actual proper metal so I could do a pre niche cosplay or just have them and play around. they were heavy as fuck but were absolutely beautiful. the amount of shelves and stuff we knocked over tryna do tricks n stuff and bruises n cuts we accidently gave ourselves from the metal.
when I did a pretty budget cosplay for a convention that happens annually in my city me and my close friends who went as captain America and over watch Brigitte with actual metal shields that we also made with our parents, we went for some fun and show off our work.
unknowing to us the convention changed the rules that year that ANY metal items and such would be confiscated. yet they were only confiscated after you already entered, paid for ticket, waited in line etc etc, because they were "too dangerous" or assuming we would intentionally k1ll someone, even tho the convention sold actual sharp hunting bowie knives and our mere cosplay toys were pitiful in comparison. a lot of people lost their cosplay/cool metal trinkets and weapons that day and they weren't given back even after to us as to the police they were considered "weapons" and "needed to be taken off the street". the convention failed and it went under new management fortunately the following years after flopping harder then Kanye's career.
still miss those big mean metal chaos mf's
Edit : my comment about kanyes carreer was a simple joke, stop arguing politics and taking things seriously to heart. Yal mfs are chronicly online.
Damn.
Sue the convention if I were you. Especially you have a crowd of people that got confiscated
@@sehalos this was many years and you cant exactly just sue in my country. You make a CC claim or make a complaint . And what happened was the court just sided with the police and said "nah they were deadly weopons they had to go and we dont trust you" (even tho they sold deadly weopons in the convention but they were fine ig) then thats it. Most people got refunds for their ticketd but that was it. Pretty fucked.
That seems illegal. They can confisctate it on the property/during the event, but they should have to give it back when you leave.
@@BaldorfBreakdowns apparently not cus the police ruled 'they were illegal weopons" or some scuffed shit, was fucked asf. Wer def on some power trip ruining a bunch of happi geeks days
definitely love the new additions to the channel! its a risk changing the format up to this extent but it has very much paid off. I also think this was a perfect video to have the new lads do. The physicallity involved swinging those blades would probably have left shad incredibly exhausted and the dynamic between you three is already great!.
What a great video, love the whole crew and the new energy! Shad I'm so glad you still are very much a part of the videos and love your goofy bits as the boss! Excited for the next chapter of Shadiversity
Exactly! The sketches were hilarious. I wanna whatever swords were delivered, hahaha
Shad from off camera: “THIS SWORD IS BLOWING MY MIND”
🤣🤣🤣
Finally, someone answers the functionality of those cursed blades!
They were cursed alright...
They are certainly "usable" with sufficient training.
It takes talent to swing those blades, that's just a testament to how skilful Kratos was in the game. He made it seamless.
Glad to see Shad still making an appearance! Also whoever did Tyranth's jump attack animation deserves a raise. Very convincing.
10:53 Hearing Shad gush about swords in the background, it very quickly reminds me that he and Jazza are brothers lol.
4:05 Tyranth became the protagonist of the universe for a second there
He IS god of war!
3:35 that aerial leap was TOO GOOD 🔥🔥🔥
It seemed to me, that the chains were burnt into Kratos' underarms, as in, they seemed to be somewhat immovable on his Arms, so maybe, if you were to re-test it, you could try to fix them on gauntlets.
The chains also seemed to extend their length, as it seemed like Kratos is able to throw them further than what their length would suggest when he holds them in his hands. So, maybe you could look into applying something to make them retractable?
Otherwise, using dartrope techniques could be useful in handling them (in a Reallife scenario, even though that's not how Kratos uses them).
The length of the chains is a little bit of magic that helps with the gameplay; it's a design trope you'll never be able to un-notice when you see it from now on.
@@Stop_Gooning
I assumed as such.
I just didn't want to just say so, since I just recently got into GoW and am not that familiar with the pre-norse Storyline, so it could have been explained in one of the original greek Games, and I'm just unaware.
I knew there was some magic involved in the Chaos Blade chains, as the chains seem to attach to and dettach from the blade hilts, when Kratos puts them on his back. Or at least i've never noticed there being any chains when they're on his back.
@@derskalde4973 the blades themselves are made out of the Primordial Fire, so the details about how they'd actually function get handwaved as "magic" (my words not theirs).
Think of it like the chains on Spawn's suit; they'll kinda figure out where they need to be to get the desired results
Could use well timed electromagnets
Yeah, big thing I wanted to call out was the idea of treating the chaos blades as rope darts and using their "shooting" rather than the spinning style. From personal practice, a simple elbow shoot is pretty easy to learn and really effective at creating a powerful and accurate strike.
Main Problems with the chaos blade that weren't mentioned:
The weight of the "real" metall chain in comparison to the blads weighte shifts the point of ballance much closer to the user and reduces it's momentum at the tip a lot.
In normal terrain there are many bushes, trees, ... which limits the range of the spinning a lot.
if the oponent walks into the range of the spin and blocks the first hit (which is pritty easy, caus you know the timing and rough direction) the blade would fall to the ground. Until you have it swirling again or in your hand, the oponent would be in close range pritty easily while your hands are slowed down by the heavy weight. Don't underestimate the heavy chain.
You can't block a hit with the chain when it's held up like in 8:00 . Your hands would get pulled together and you would get hit (mayby a bit weaker but still deadly without armor).
Still thanks a lot for the test, waiting for part 2 :)))
Shad is rather brave to let others get the spotlight of the show and let them play around. The acting reminds me of when my siblings and I fought with invisible enemies with sticks, well done guys!
Well his health condition is not exactly helping
Can’t wait for a part 2 to see when they eventually figure it out cause these guys r pros
The biggest difference I think between Kratos' animations and Tyranth's testing of the spinning maneuvers sadly does come down to Kratos being superhuman. Kratos needs very little wind up (if any) to get the full effect of a strike with the "ranged" aspects of the weapon, whereas Tyranth needed at least two full rotations to (seemingly) feel comfortable making a strike with the weapon, to get up enough momentum as it were. Especially in the cases where Tyranth was trying to use both of the chaos blades at full reach, having to build up momentum with rotations just ended up tangling the two chains. Whereas with Kratos' animations, he just lets them fly because he has enough strength to overcome their inertia without "winding them up" first. It really is a situation where (I think) the developers of the game went, "What would the ramifications of his super strength be?" and found something cool that Kratos could do that could seem realistic, given suspension of disbelief, that wouldn't really work in real life because no human is that strong. I would love to see a bodybuilder or strongman take a stab at these (pun intended) to see if maybe they could get a bit more out of them ... D'ya think we could get Jorge from the slingshot channel to make a quick video about it? XD
talking about momentum, if they were to add an additional weight to the wooden ones it would work a little better it seems, do not forget momentum is mass times speed, so the more mass the easier it would be to build up momentum from the spin.
Also I feel like another part of the factor is that Kratos has had the Blades and used them for possibly centuries of training himself how to use them.
And with the was kratos spins the blades they swing at different angles with the left slightly behind the right
the chains also seem to follow Kratos' mind more than how he flicks his wrists
I believe it's not only strength but what they didn't touch upon is the fact that the chains are seared to hi flesh and have a magical enchantment on them unless they can make that real the weapon is highly impractical in real life 😊
I LOVED this!!! LOL, especially the interactions with Shad and everyone else, lol, like the bricks and the sword delivery.
Tyron's commitment to really give it his all was amazing. Great job to Nate too, however Tyron really made me feel confident that there's no way I could've done any better if I was there myself. Well done!
Tyranth surprised us all when he pulled off that aerial move time after time, I definitely don't think I would have flipped in the air like that!
I really like the addition of the new hosts, Shad and them have really good chemistry and are good on camera with each other, and tyranth and nate are both fantastic and funny and knowledgeable. I really think the decision to hire new people is a win-win for you shad. Great video as always
Very interesting and enjoyable video Shad team. This format still works very well, all the best for your health Shad
I can imagine if Atreus ever got ahold of them this is what he would look like for quite a while.
I love Functional Fandom. Love the whole "Mythbusters: videogames and fantasy edition" part. Just *so* interesting. Thank you so much for all the hard work you do.
A bit of magic crafting, a bit of superhuman juice and this works. It's flashy, it's intimidating. That's pretty much what I would call perfect for a fantasy setting in which a very angry man kills gods
Great dynamic between Tyranth and Nate!!!!
And absolute moves going on there!!! Some of it looked legit!!! hahahaha
I like Tyran’s battle cry of: “*soft whisper* Fwaaahh”
XD
Tyrant was getting more and more proficient with releasing the blades each time he did it. A lot of these seem like it's all about comfort and training with these, in ADDITION to proper material and weight.
Yeah, I see the Blades of Chaos being somewhat gimmicky, but within the context of God of War they actually make sense.
*Number 1* is the strength factor. By the time Kratos gets these, he's already been annointed by Ares and thus has plain old superhuman strength.
*Number 2* is the training factor that you mentioned. Kratos is the kind of bloodthirsty murder machine that values skill, and by extension practice. He'd be plenty willing to practice for months and years in order to perfect his technique.
The end result is an incredibly gimmicky but actually very useful pair of weapons that are designed for a superhuman warrior. They're *not* meant for regular men. But in the hands of someone like Kratos they're not only incredibly powerful swords, the chains give him a unique advantage in how he can use them for long-distance attacks and sweeps.
@@SoftisNelaris I see it as an extension of a blade whip or meteor hammer, some techniques might not work the way Kratos does it offhand, but a Kung fu practitioner trained in chained weaponry would be able to make better use of them.
Also adding more weight would make the blade spin less against wind resistance. I’d be really curious to see someone design functional chaos blades that apply physics to see what they look like in real life. The main issue I see with them is at range your attacks are very predictable because you’re attacks rely a lot on the spin of the chain so it’s very choreographed. So at range you run the risk of an enemy just grabbing the weapon or the chain and taking it from you. Personally I’d probably trade the blade for a heavy spiked weight or a morning star that can produce momentum much faster and the chain itself would then serve as a weapon because there is just so much force behind it.
The only thing I can think of is if you got somebody bigger and stronger say about 6:05 and 250 lb with good conditioning and somebody who's experience with chain weapons that might emphasis on might make them kind of usable
This was a incredible video! Tyran and Nate are hilarious together, they have a great chemistry as well that is highly entertaining.
Cheers Will!
I really like the new Shadiversity, when you said you would be less active and taking more rest it was obviously hard for you, but I really love the new style and like to see more of all of you :)
Loving the new group dimamic feels alot like mythbusters - been watching for a long time and as much as I miss the shad solo I'm enjoying the team dynamics and the energy you three bring. Keep up the amazing work
Thank you Daniel, Shad has a great team behind him & we're all doing our best to give him a break when he needs it, while still creating amazing videos for everyone!
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@@NateV-SwordSavvy you guys do a phenomenal job. "Functional fandom" is perhaps my single most favorite aspect about this channel. Mythbusters: the Fantasy edition = SO much fun.
I think the whole functionality comes from the chains weight. You guys are using very lightweight chains which don’t have enough weight to accelerate fast enough. They need to be balanced weight wise like a Kusarigama. Also a lot of technique needed mainly in timing between your dominant and non dominant hands
Yeah and Kratos is like crazy strong so it probably isn’t possible for mortals like us to effectively wield them
@@dr.stronk9857ye he spins the fast enough so the air so the edge cuts through the air ez which allows the blade to align + magic
The props you guys make always look amazing! I can’t wait to see more of your projects.
Also in the game they where cursed onto him so they would re-wrap around his forearms magically
I enjoyed to two new hosts, especially the guy that was able to do flips (sorry don’t remember your name). I will say, having Shad’s input through out the video will keep the original fans happy, so keep doing that.
shad comin in like the chad as usual.
also
HONEEEEEEEEY... THE NEIGHBOR... HE MULTIPLIED
Just a small thing I think I noticed : Kratos tends (as you guys said) to aggression with the chaos blades. He also commits at lot more in his motions ie. He uses his shoulders to throw the blades more than his elbow.
It partially comes down to his practice with them; the Shadiversity crew only tried them out for a few hours, Kratos got to practice for months and years.
The other half is the superstrength factor. Kratos can immediately get the heavy metal blades and chains to maximum power instantly despite their weight.
These two factors make it much easier to get that kind of performance out of what are, frankly, a very offense-oriented pair of weapons.
A more functional version of fantasy weapons on chains I can think of would be Medusa's chained dagger from the Fate series
But some issues with those would be that they're more like stakes than daggers, the chains aren't actually connected to anything so they're fly around if not held (not to mention they're quite long), and the only real way to get a fatal strike with them is to throw it
As much as Medusa is Best Girl imo, I must say that her daggers are possibly the single most ineffective chain weapon I could possibly think of, for the simple fact that only someone with her physical ability would ever be able to throw them and have them fly in a straight line. Those things are another example of what I like to call "Superhuman Physics," where the dynamics of regular physics don't really apply. In this case, we'd end up in another situation like the BoC where a human couldn't possibly get conventional physics to work with them.
However, Medusa does use the chains and the nails in a very conventional way, and we see it time and time again: grapples. She's really damn good at using those chains to manipulate her opponent, and that's definitely what you'd wanna do, especially if you're working with what are basically a pair of railroad spikes attached to handles. Using the chains in tandem with your speed to trip up and bind your opponent enough so that you could get a solid opening to drive the point home. In fact, I think we see her do that more often than we see her actually throw the daggers.
So a rope dart then.
Such fun. Keep up the good work Team Shad!
Wow we got Shad's stunt double on set!
Yes! We are entertained! BOW GO SLAY GODS, TYRETH!!!
13:30 the idea that the chains physical hurt Kratos whenever he throws or swings them is actually perfect
Loving the new boys! A great addition to the channel
They are a great addition to the channel.
Didn't expect to laugh so much video was entertaining and super enjoyable love the new format.
Waiting for the review of this mind blowing sword now
I’ve been watching for almost a year and never comment but just wanted to share my support for the new content! Absolutely just as entertaining as glad shad is getting a break and focusing on health!
Coming back to support this channel in this troubled time
I really enjoyed this video it was very entertaining and also educational I think you guys are doing a great job
We get next-gen Shad for more flashy moves
Shad's Stunt double really steals the show!
This is rapidly becoming myth busters
Tyranth's spin jumps, 10/10
Tyrant is great man i like him so much. Nathan is also freaking great.
You guys should try making a more functional version then retry the testing
Also, Shad I wish you the best with your health condition and hope you het better. I also think you should take a look at Wim Hoth breathing, it’s an interesting breathing technique that I think might be able to help even if it’s only a little bit…
It’s been a while since I watched a vid from this channel
What’s going on with Shad’s health?
@@dragonriderabens9761 Check the video "I can't do this by myself anymore", in short: fatigue
@@dragonriderabens9761 something that’s affecting his cardiovascular health as well as hurting his sleep cycle, making him get more tiered easily. Recently made an update video about it recently that goes into a bit more detail but it’s the reason he had his friends do most of the physical work, doing that stuff himself takes a toll on him.
You mean Wim Hof? If there's anyone who knows how to breathe against the odds, it's him; he should be dead, many times over.
All of this health talk is just a part of a conspiracy to make Shad even more over-powered. I'm worried where it might end.
@@alvinleonardo1263 Is the Fauci cocktail involved?
This is great! I started learning knife dart or Kyoketsu not to long ago! The chain with 1 you need both hands to control. Ive seen in movies and games they use 2 but think the reality is like its not as practical. Pretty sure thats why the Chaos Blades change their length based on need with magic. Which would allow for 2 being used no problem. One thing to note that I noticed. It looked like you had the chains attached to the sides of the grips instead of the back of the pommel. That definitely affects the aerodynamics and think thats why they were getting caught more on you and tangled. Great video! Always wondered if theyd work in the real world haha.
Magic and video game logic play a big part in these weapons functionality so don't feel too bad.
I was waiting for this day since you talked about the leviathan axe!
This was just a ton of fun to watch :) the guys had fun
*meanwhile shad* THIS IS THE COOLEST SWORD I"VE EVER SEEN!!! IT"S BLOWING MY MIND!!!
2:27 "really cool hair cut"
Kratos being bald
It's funny cuz a bald guy said it.
@@AngelusAnsell wait... I'm bald?
I would love to see your guys interpretation of a more useful/practical version of the chaos blades, made with retractable cabling etc but I'm also glad no one was hurt, every time the blades started spinning I was waiting for the bonking on the head, great work guys
Shad coming in, "My Shad sense was tingling!"
Later:
"Swords..."
"OHMYGOSH, THEY'RE AMAZING!"
If you ever wish to make a continuation to this, I have some footage you may find interesting
Excellent host, and excellent co-hosts to demo!
We might need a rope dart master to use these like the game but if they simply switch to spinning the blade up and down, then over the head, would simplify this to handling like whips but the length of chain control is very difficult without magic ;)
Damn, Tyranth has some moves. And great to see Nate on this channel, started following him back in the back scabbard days 😁
Watching Tyranth. Yep I see why Shad didn't do the physical parts of this video. That looks exhausting. Part of what makes Kratos blades more functional is his fantastical strength and endurance. The one the thing you can't really test. His acceleration on the aerial version helicopter spin in the first game is impossible for a normal person and ridiculous even for him. But a lot of the moves Tyranth did he just need superhuman acceleration to do more effectively. Yes more metal more weight would cut through the wind resistance better but thats also more exhausting. Kratos is literally never tired if he isn't grievously injured first. Also something not considered is the metal chains. The weight of the chains and the nature of the material they are made of affect the wind resistance on the blade regardless of if the blade is wood, foam, or metal. Think about if you formed the chains of rubber bands. It'd completely change the functionality of the chains. The plastic chain is closer to the metal in elasticity, but it lacks other qualities. Another commment also mentioned using a gauntlet to simulate how the chain is seered to Kratos forearm. This would also affect the spinning axis greatly especially upon release. I'd speculate when retrieve the blade you could do two part jerk. One to bring the chain to the hand by jerk the foream then another once you grab it.
Well Kratos IS the son of Zeus...like Hercules was and we know that guy's name is synonymous with inhuman strength. XD but this was a fun video and it's nice to see other people working with you, Shad :) also pls guys do functionality on Corvo's blade from Dishonored.
Yes, please. That's a great idea
The off-screen sword reaction 🤣🤣
This was actually INCREDIBLY helpful since I'm currently designing a character who uses similar weapons; thanks for the info! Awesome job guys
The Castlevania: Lords of Shadow series and some fight scenes in the anime may also provide inspiration for flexible weapons on chains and/or ropes. As do, of course, actual rope dart and meteor hammer techniques.
One of the things that could help these blades are sharper edges, because in the game once you get past the sharp edge it is met by a ledge which in tandom with the sharp edge could help with throwing. Because the sharp edge would cut through the wind like the wing of a plane, while the sudden ledge would stabilize it so the sharp edge is going for the enemy.
"Swords are subjective."
-Saint Bilbonius Bagginius
This is why the kusarigama was used with the weighted chain as the thing you threw/spun most of the time, keeping the kama end in your hand. Yes, there are moves that throw/spin the kama, but there are far fewer of them. It’s not as balanced. If I had a choice, I would not choose the Chaos Blades. I would go with something a little more practical. Like a zanpakto. Or a 7D Marauder. ER PPC x2 + Class 5 Rotary Autocannon + Targeting computer from 300 meters away > Chaos Blade with 15 foot reach.
The, "Hey look, a distraction" brought a tear to my eye from laughter. 😂
Works every time 😉
i didnt find a rewiev on Tengen's Niichirin Cleavers from Demon Slayer so i hope this helps on a degree, since the weapons are kind of similar
Pehabs you can rewiev them also
Using the blades up close hand to hand was effective as we saw. The chain was great for grappling.
I really like the dynamic of the three of you. Things seem to be working out, Shad! Well done mate!
Watching Tyranth jumping was so entertaining
Loving the video! If i can comepletely nerd out for a minute, I think in universe, the blades are somewhat sentient, because Kratos states that they came back after he tried to get rid of them (i think he even said he tried to get rid of them multiple times, but i cant properly remember). So it's possible that the blades themselves choose to assist Kratos by landing in his hands perfectly, always keeping the edge alignment perfect, and never allowing the chain to get tangled or in the way.
I'd love to see Shad go over Link's technique from Breath of the Wild. Especially his way of using much larger swords like claymores. In this game, specifically, Link is said to be the best swordsman in Hyrule.
There are also a lot of variety of weapons in the game that seem both practical and impractical , and I'd love to see Shad talk about them