Making Incense With Makko and Tabu No Ki - What's The Difference? (Incense Magick Ep 016)

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  • @adrianyelnats6084
    @adrianyelnats6084 3 роки тому +5

    I can't tell you how much I enjoy these videos ! I fancy myself an Incense maker and have always found such helpful hints and instruction from your work. Thank you so much for making this channel !

  • @GordiansKnotHere
    @GordiansKnotHere 2 місяці тому +2

    I love incense so this was really informative, thanks!
    Subscribed.

  • @Oredraven
    @Oredraven 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you! This is super-helpful. I had missed the information that makko has scented ingredients added. Very important info. And I definitely notice with some brands that there's a consistent base scent regardless of incense flavor, so that explains it.

  • @BrotherHoodMovies331
    @BrotherHoodMovies331 4 роки тому +4

    It's good to see you are keeping well Carl, hope youre keeping busy.

  • @Namri
    @Namri 4 роки тому +4

    Yaaaaay!! I've been waiting for a new uploaaaaad!

  • @Maestros_Medicine420
    @Maestros_Medicine420 4 місяці тому +1

    Needed that. Thank you.

  • @sherryb919
    @sherryb919 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this! I'm new to incense making and started off with your kits but was looking to create my own recipes.... I wanted to know the difference between the two powders and what effect they have on my recipes. I have been using makko but it definitely had an effect on the aromatics... I'm going to try the same recipes with Tabu No Ki and see how that goes. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  3 роки тому

      Tabu no ki is a wood binder Makko is a mixture that usually includes tabu, but also includes other ingredients to enhance both the scent and its burning properties. Tabu should have virtually no impact on the scent except, much like adding water to a drink, the more tabu you use, the more muted the scent will become. Each makko is differnet and will have a different impact on the scent ofyour blend. Keep in mind that my kits all use gum binders, rather than wood binders, although I plan to introduce a wood binder kit next year. Please let me know if I can help with anything else!

    • @sherryb919
      @sherryb919 3 роки тому

      @@IncenseDragon Ahhhhhh gum binders!!!! Well I have placed an order from your website and ordered Tabu AND guar gum so I get to experiment wit both binders! Thank you for replying and thank you for your knowledge!

  • @bosheks
    @bosheks Рік тому

    Thank you for your wonderful videos, they are so helpful in my first steps making incense cones after having made loose incense blends for a long time. I keep being confused and also your website didn't really help me. If you talk about tabu no ki, are you then talking about the Machilus thumbergii of Litsea glutinosa? Do you happen to have a video (or a small comment) about the experiences and differences between these two powders? Thank you.

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  Рік тому

      Tabu no ki is machilus thumbergi. Litsea glutinosa is joss powder. They are very different, but they are both wood binders. Lots of ill-informed people think that "makko" (ma-koh) refers to one specific ingredient (tabu no ki), but in reality, makko just means "incense powder" and often refers to powders with no binder at all. Saying makko and tabu are the same thing is a fundamental, yet common, misunderstanding. I do have a video that talks about the difference between makko and tabu. That might be helpful for you.

  • @victoriajane6841
    @victoriajane6841 4 роки тому +2

    hi, i just made my first batch of cones. i used guar gum, and lavander. but they don’t burn very well. do you think it’s the lavender that’s causing the problem? i used a coffee grinder to grind them, but i didnt sift it through anything because it was kinda fluffy? love the videos by the way!

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  4 роки тому +1

      Can you list the recipe you used?

    • @victoriajane6841
      @victoriajane6841 4 роки тому +1

      IncenseDragon about 4 tbs of lavender, and 1-2 tsp of guar gum, and the water i just dropped in until it didnt crack when rolling it

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  4 роки тому +6

      That's way too much binder. For 4 Tbsp of lavender you would want to use 1/4 tsp of guar. You might want to add a little wood powder or charcoal powder too. If you have access to them, lavender stems will also work well.

    • @victoriajane6841
      @victoriajane6841 4 роки тому +1

      IncenseDragon ahh okay, i will give it another try. thank you!

  • @beverliedunlap2770
    @beverliedunlap2770 4 роки тому +2

    Do one of your videos state where to purchase supplies? I have not stumbled upon it yet and having trouble finding a place to buy things such as Tabu No Ki. I would really like to design my own scents, I have never made incense so have no idea where to go that is reputable and reliable. Thanks. Helpful videos, thank you.

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  4 роки тому +4

      I would recommend www.TheIncenseDrsgon.com. but that's just me, lol.

  • @ashleyrainbow8888
    @ashleyrainbow8888 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much this vi5was really helpful for me

  • @wendydee3007
    @wendydee3007 3 роки тому +1

    Very helpful to a newbie like me, thanks. I live in Spain and am finding it incredibly difficult to get hold of Tabu powder. I am wondering if I can create incense for making sticks, using guar gum and a different type of wood powder (ideally with no scent)? Thank you :o)

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely. My first book primarily contains recipes that use guar gum.

  • @FIGUEIRINHA
    @FIGUEIRINHA 4 роки тому +1

    thanks for sharing your expertise!
    following your nice videos, all the incense I make work, but not so well as I wish. or as I guess they must burn
    as I learn with you, all things are dry
    but my cones are hard to start and sometimes the burn stop
    just a small portion of xantana gum work fine as binder
    salitre add some nice fireworks - if in the recipe burn never stop but it is not so natural and sometimes dangerous.
    cedar is nice too, vegetal coal, sawdust from good woods
    I don't use essential oils because the price but I guess they can help a lot in the burn. maybe this is what I am missing?
    all work but if possible, please tell some easy way to increase the temperature and burn more, or faster?
    the ingredients are near free and I wanna make my cones bigger and with a lot of smoke
    "makko" and "tabu no ki" looks great but import em is not a option to me
    they can be made with some easy to find components? herbs? dry grass? things like that?

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  4 роки тому +1

      Add clove to your mixture to make it burn hotter.

  • @Malubvra
    @Malubvra 2 роки тому

    Hello Carl and greeting from the UK. Can I ask if it is possible to make my own super size incense cones if I hollow them out like a thimble so as to enable them to dry, or is there a problem burning a partly hollowed out cone down?

  • @MrTurtlefan2
    @MrTurtlefan2 Рік тому

    I 3d printed a incense cone mold, I have acquired excess nag champa incense powder, what would you recommend I use to bind the powder together? Would I also need an type of release agent so the powder doesn't stick to the mold?
    Thank you in advance.

    • @ShamanicSavant
      @ShamanicSavant Рік тому +2

      My suggestion would be to get a good extruder and make sticks, it's a LOT easier. I use a fondant gun, it's like a caulking gun for cake decorators. The screw type clay extruders are a PIA to use. The original Nag Champa used halmaddi as the binder, which is also a PIA to use and difficult to source because it's illegal to export out of India. I'd go with some kind of gum or resin as a binder and enough makko to keep it burning. Personally I'd use raw labdanum resin and styrax benzoin (about half and half) because they're very complimentary to your nag champa powder. It'll add a kind of vanilla amber note. You'll want to freeze them first and grind them with your dry ingredients to avoid a sticky mess :)

    • @MrTurtlefan2
      @MrTurtlefan2 Рік тому

      @@ShamanicSavant thank you so much for the feedback and instructions. Much appreciated 🙏

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  Рік тому +1

      The powder is likely wood powder with a fragrance oil added, so a small amount of gum binder should be all you need. Add roughly 1/8 teaspoon of guar gum, tragacath gum, or xanthan gum to 2 tablespoons of your powder. Add around 1 tablespoon of water and mix. You might need to play with the ratio to get it right, but this is a good starting formula.

  • @ISLAMWALYSINGWIZME
    @ISLAMWALYSINGWIZME 4 роки тому

    Can you help in me simple steps to follow if I want to be a incense maker? And main types of incense based on cultural and geographical history

  • @snarf1851
    @snarf1851 2 роки тому

    Can Charcoal powder be used?

  • @williamlee6839
    @williamlee6839 3 роки тому +1

    Hi I have just bought Baieido makko and Im having some trouble here and would be very grateful if you could help me! I was using the ratio of 1 resin to 3 parts of base material (sandalwood or chorcoal) and it was doing fine, but with makko, Im thinking that the spice scent of the makko is too strong. Can you tell me a good ratio to keep the makko scent “silenced “ but still burning constantly?

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  3 роки тому

      That's a tricky one. Tabu will absorb the scent of most anything stored near it, so it's tough to guess what you might be smelling. Some batches of tabu do have a moderately "green" smell that will often fade over time, but you would want to experiment with your blend and see what the least amount of tabu you need to add. I don't believe I've made a successful blend that had less than 25% wood binder. If that won't work for you, consider changing to a gum binder instead. That will definitely solve this problem.

  • @samanthanicholson9015
    @samanthanicholson9015 2 роки тому

    I only have liquids can I use them? If so how? Thank you

  • @lesmondesinvisibles
    @lesmondesinvisibles Рік тому

    Hello ! You wrote than we could use water or wine in the recipe, what's the difference? Thank you ❤

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  Рік тому +1

      From a practical perspective, not a whole lot. Wine can make an impact on scent, but it is usually very subtle, if you notice it at all. There are lots of reasons that people use wine, and in some forms of incense, like incense pellets, it can be an essential and really does impact scent. Just don't look for a massive change in scent with rolled incense. Like many incense components, wine works quietly with the other ingredients. In that way, it's almost an opposite of resins. A tiny amount of resin can have a huge impact on scent.

  • @Mister-Reno
    @Mister-Reno 3 роки тому +2

    im learning a lot watching your videos

  • @ashleyrainbow8888
    @ashleyrainbow8888 4 роки тому

    Hi I've got a question I made some cone incense with sage on the vine grinded up myself the added makko I made a small batch a few weeks ago then put them in a airtight container. I also want to say I keep my apartment at 70 degrees because I have catcus plants. I went and opened the container to use one of the cones and everything had mold. Can you give me some tips because I don't know what happened I made these to give to family and friends but I need to start over now.

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  4 роки тому +2

      It sounds like you sealed the container before the incense dried completely. Unfortunately. I've never found a way to fix incense after it molds. Sorry.

  • @diamondearhart1509
    @diamondearhart1509 2 роки тому

    Where can i get tabu no ki ?

  • @cherrytree5649
    @cherrytree5649 2 роки тому

    I have started trying to make cones with what I thought was mako but after this video I think is actually the other. My cones haven't burned well yet tho.

  • @SergeyMoskalev
    @SergeyMoskalev 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you! Great explanation!

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you. It;s a topic that confused me for many years, so I wanted to explain it to others (once I figured it out, lol).

  • @AnuKhan-bi9si
    @AnuKhan-bi9si Рік тому

    Where is dis i have also make incense Powder

  • @createwithnaveen247
    @createwithnaveen247 2 місяці тому

    Can i have that online incense discussion group name

  • @l.pmoonstone5067
    @l.pmoonstone5067 4 роки тому

    I made cones with makko and it wont stay lit. I have tried making 2 different batches slightly adjusting the makko and resins and still no success. What am I doing wrong

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  4 роки тому +1

      Greetings! Can you post the recipe you are using?

    • @l.pmoonstone5067
      @l.pmoonstone5067 4 роки тому

      @@IncenseDragon
      :)
      I used 3 parts makko and 1 part powdered copal resin
      Adding a few drops of water until I had the consistency to make cones.

  • @Lexxlu
    @Lexxlu Рік тому

    Wonderful and informative 🙏🏽

  • @mrh4742
    @mrh4742 2 роки тому

    Where can one buy real and pure Tabu no ki?

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  2 роки тому

      TheIncenseDragon.com Stop by any time.

  • @algabbar
    @algabbar Рік тому

    Hello, I'm from Indonesia, it's your kindness that you can help me, I want to make frankincense from agarwood powder, what ingredients are needed to make it fragrant and durable and the smoke is a lot and it burns, the ingredients available in my country are tabunoki substitutes and makko powder recipe, thank you Alone

  • @ashira5763
    @ashira5763 4 роки тому

    Hi, is your website down?

    • @IncenseDragon
      @IncenseDragon  4 роки тому

      Looks likes something's going on with the IP server at the moment. You can also get there via this link: theincensedragon.squarespace.com/

  • @nicolenew1708
    @nicolenew1708 Рік тому

    AMAZING

  • @nobodysanything2330
    @nobodysanything2330 9 місяців тому

    🧧

  • @r.b.johnson5269
    @r.b.johnson5269 3 роки тому +2

    "
    It has been rumored that this makko is gray because The Incense Dragon includes the ashes of unscrupulous incense vendors whom he has burnt to dust. The Incense Dragon’s legal advisers continue to strongly deny this mostly unfounded rumor." HAHAHAHA