Keenan Cornelius vs Roberto Jimenez - 2020 Who's Number One
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2020
- Is this the greatest black belt debut of all time?
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Keenans style is unorthodox and he takes risks, that makes his matches so entertaining. Thank you for posting this video.
It's a shame that 2 of those points were scored against keenan as he fell into a strong lapel guard. Hopefully one day jiujitsu points will take lapel gaurds into account.
@@SohailNT They are literally designed to hurt the lapel players. Keenan has not made a lot of friends with his rhetoric on social media.
@@michaelgrimm What do you mean about his rhetoric on social media?
@@bobbymccullough3210 He has been calling his Jiu Jitsu, American Jiu Jitsu. Which has garnered the ire of the BJJ community.
@@michaelgrimm isn't that what BJJ did to Jiu Jitsu though?They're upset that he's renaming something that they also renamed?Doesn't really make sense.
People do love pulling keenans pants
This idiotic trend of putting your hands inside your opponents pants needs to be outlawed, it's disgusting. Knee reaps are ilegal, but oil checking is not, f**k off with that
Damn that last second back take was so close
Why didn't he get the points? He got both hooks with a second left
@@jhulax33 i think you need control for at least 3 seconds
@@ThePatcam ah
I haven't competed yet unfortunately so I didn't know. Still somewhat new
@@jhulax33 I know that's the rule for IBJJF comps, don't know about this particular promotion. They could use the same rule or a similar one since they didnt award Keenan any points.
@@ThePatcam OK
I'm hoping to compete as soon as this lockdown stuff is over
This game proves that Jiujitsu is really a human chess. Each movement is precisely calculated. Fantastic.
For anyone who says that jiu jitsu would be boring without juice, this match is proof otherwise.
Juice? U mean acai and praise jesus?
who the f said that? tell them to look up Jeff Glover
If you think these guys aren’t on the juice than I got some snake oil to sell you
@@Mslt2474 wtf. they arent juicing
@@MootRed they absolutely are. Not all juice is designed to make you look like Galvao. Most of these guys use a juice designed to speed up recovery. That's how they train 5+ times a day. Like the Miyao bro that got popped for steroids.
I hate pants pullers, I had it done to me in a tournament and had to let go because my junk was about to flop out lol. Should be banned. Or at least refs should stop peoples asses and nuts making an appearance 😂
Flograppling w/ the daily uploads. I look forward to these.
Stood at the edge of my seat from the very beginning!
I love Keenan but I feel he was so committed to prove his worm guard system works that he didn't use anything else but.
Awesome match, Roberto's a beast.
For real!!!!
that's the whole point of creating a guard. you have to test it constantly. also , he is already establish
Roberto is a great but what takes him to the next level is his ability in the scramble and lighting fast reactions. Keenan shut that down. He slowed the match way down and frustrated Roberto. In the end Roberto hung on for dear life in full posture breaking closed guard (a good strategy for winning on points but not the submission dominance he’s grown accustomed to the last year or two), he knew he was stymied and the match was not flowing to his liking. He took the win but he wasn’t proud of it because he knew in many ways it was a loss. Also, Keenan subbed him in a minute or two a few years ago so I think he was looking for a revenge tap. In short he won but none of it went down the way he wanted it to happen.
@@crazyhorse4807 And if we had 30 seconds more to the match that would be a back take and Keenan would win by points or even could score another sub.
This match was stressful to watch. Was literally standing on my couch, screaming at my phone 🤦🏾♂️🤬. This match is why I love jiu jitsu.
What a great entertaining match!
What a great match
Really spectacular fights!!!! I want to see here the battle between Mica Galvão vs Mateus Rodrigues please🙏🏽🔥🥋 Osss
Sick transition from single leg lapel to the back.
One of my favorite matches this year!!
He's white. Should be a little pink under duress
Masterful
Roberto has shown himself to be a top tier BJJ competitor but he wasn't even close to finishing Keenan in this match unlike how he said in his aftermatch speech where he was disappointed how he didn't finish.
The FED Smart Money yeah
Roberto knows more about what he was about to do, than you.
@@justsayin3600 Roberto was gassed and barely hung on for the win. If there was a couple more minutes in the match Keenan would have tapped him. He pulled guard (stalled) the last minute hanging on for dear life because he struggled through the whole match never really getting the scramble he was looking for. Other then the opening couple minutes Keenan fraught him perfect. He slowed him down, controlled everything Roberto did for 70% of the match. I like Roberto he’s a great competitor and will be a multi time world champ but he relies on his scrambling ability to out athletic opponents and Keenan shut that all down after the opening
@@crazyhorse4807 Woulda, coulda, shoulda. It's Keenan's fault he got down early, and every time he evened the score, Roberto would immediately get the lead back. It comes down to the fact that Keenan didn't show a sense of urgency, not until it was too late. You can't say Keenan fought him perfect when he allowed himself to be swept twice and taken down, each time putting him behind.
@@BestWayKilla of course I can say he faught him perfect. Roberto is extremely skilled young stronger and faster and has been submitting everyone he faces. Keenan had a great fight strategy and implemented it well. Roberto was very frustrated and if you watch any of his videos you know he usually dominates his opponent to the point of playing with them. In the end you're right, Keenan lost but anybody who knows what they are watching cam tell Keenan was starting to control the fight and Roberto was just trying to hang on. He pulled full gaurd and stalled for his sake!!!
Roberto for the points but the take down points were cheap. Would like to see the fight finish with no time limit.
I would love to see a rematch !
Good work
can we please do something about the gi uniform, maybe make it into a thick long sleeve shirt
The way Roberto gets back to his feet at 2:34 is crazy. How did he build enough momentum to do that?!
Awkward pozish. Might have been easier than it looked though
wow he got the back like 2 seconds to late great match
I think that guard pull at the end should of been counted as a takedown. He pulled guard just as he was going to be taken down.
Look at it again Keenan let go of his grip before Roberto pulled guard
Well deserved 👍
Apparently berimbolo works as a sweep really well
Man I miss this format and style of WNO. Much better and more exciting than the current one!
Awesome
That back take should have been just a few seconds earlier. :) Good try, can see the effect of being a part time boss/athelete on Keenan. Kudos.
Que competição top Ossa
Goddddammmmnnnnn that was crazy
Ref shouldn't be fixing the gi. Should just let it be what it is. Also I don't think the gi should be fixed in between.
What a gem of a match. Jimenez will be on top of everything soon
awesomeguynamedjon so because of his non verbal cues, you dislike him ? Sounds pretty idiotic.
This was amazing!!!!
Anyone who took in Jimenez going for the Triangle followed by the bolo and knows bjj politics knows how hilarious that is
Massimo I think it’s less knowing politics and more like keeping up with the kardashians
lmaooo too true
"never get triangled again" "berimbolo doesn't work" i love keenan but thats hilarious
@@ezrapaul6808 Jimenez is an absolute legend for doing that LOL I'm praying that Musimeci Bolos Keenen soon even though i do like him.
@@mass13344 same lol
Roberto is rising like cream. This guy is so good.
when points enters competition it's all down hill... matches at this level ought to be sub only
yup any match that ends in points is an unfinished match.
It's always fun to see high level competition, but I agree. Sub only matches are so much more interesting to watch because it's more in the spirit of Jiu Jitsu and doesn't penalize taking risks.
Sub-only matches feature just as match stalling and gaming the rules as points matches, and either end up being time limit draws or just a contest of who doesn't gas out quicker. Points matches are just fine, they place a premium on position, and offer objective criteria to determine who was better during a match, since, as it turns out, high level black belts happen to be very difficult to submit.
Yes, there shouldn't be a defined point system. It should be based on either very experienced judges...who can easily tell if a person is stalling, or getting a take down and just sitting there just because they think they're up on the score cards; or submission only.
@@BestWayKilla So true, "Sub-only" sounds good when you hear it, but sub only matches are a false narrative too. I agree, place a premium on position and offer objective criteria to determine who was better. At a high level, subs don't happen often and hour-long matches don't even represent anything approaching the spirit of marital arts and self-defense as unlimited time is garbage, if anything, short encounters are more realistic.
Just my 2cents, i think that Cornelius gassed so fast... Look with attention, here won the most conditioned athlete, skills are very similar, very good match from 2 top élite players
I think he's lost conditioning with age. Wasn't he taking in like 30 black belts for 40 minutes in one video or something? Maybe he's just not explosive enough for the younger guys. How old is he? I feel like he's not been in the game THAT long. Either way his best days are behind him. No shame, he's got his own gym and youtube and podcast things going on.
@@juntjoonunya9216 totally agree with you
@@juntjoonunya9216 Keenan is 28 man lol how are his best days behind him?
Keenan is a thoughtful smart competitor, he knows Robertos strengths (scramble, back take, lighting fast counters) and he took it all away from him. He slowed the fight way down and Roberto was clearly frustrated with the way the fight was playing out. This dude has been tapping EVERYONE and he finished this fight by pulling closed guard and watching the clock tick down to get him out of the match. He had no answer and seemed slightly confused by Keenans level of lapel game.
Yeah I agree. Keenan won it with skill. That's it
Shouldn't Keenan have gotten two points for the sweep and two points for one back hook at the begining of the match?
I think both hooks would be 4, and rimenez pulled guard negating the 2
Chora Keenan!
Keenan could of won that match. He waited too long before pushing the action. When against guys with good scrambles he likes to wait till close to the end of the match to do the sweep. Then it allows him to either stall for a minute or two or capitalise on mistakes when they panic to make up the 2 points in the short time they have left.
Yep......he looked stronger in the end and Roberto looked like he was glad it was over. After the first few points were scored you could tell that Roberto wasn’t really sure how to deal with keenans lapel work. Roberto relies on the scramble to use his elite athletic ability and Keenan wasn’t gonna let him take the match in that direction.
luta top
Roberto looks like Eddie Bravo from when he was a Brazilian in another universe.
Maluco é brabo kksks
wow did anyone hear roberto's speech at the end? End the steroids! what a champ
Competition is good
Caraca..!! que luta top,técnica pura..🙂👏👏😎
Oss Roberto no juice for jiu jitsu!
Cornelius inevitably got hit. They are both awesome indeed.
I wonder what’s going on with Keenan. He is usually not giving up some many points. His head is not in the game.
He's struggling and not evolving. He can only evolve if he rolls with the best. He's getting where no one likes him or wants to see him on top. He's isolating himself now.
Wow, Jimenez is a monster.
Nice job Referee at 03:56 ;)
Excuse my lack of knowledge about the ruleset but why did white get 2 points at 0:32?
Pulled guard, was in bottom position then ended on top position. I guess the counted it as a sweep 🤷♂️
How is taking the back not points? How is jumping guard not penalized?
how did they not score the second back take the hooks were in 2 sec before the fight ended?
Not enough time on the clock to secure position.
thank you did not know thought all you need to do is establish the hooks
Why did the ref keep screwing with Keenan's lapel guards?
He was taking his feet out from being stuck in the gi
@@kylehasgeniusbits but why did do that ? I think next time he will help him for escaping triangle choke
@@TheFivezerofive let me know when they help someone escape a triangle, bud
“im not happy with the win cuz i won with points but im happy that i won”
Hes on his feet completely at 0:42 and jumps guard at 0:40 that's not 3 seconds to establish a standing position and Keenan has a leg grip but they really they should make that longer than 3 seconds anyway
robert cornelius: did you just copy my last name or no
What makes the ref get involved from time to time?
I think Jimenez is a beast, but Keenan didn’t play his usual strategic game. Had he just pulled guard, no way Jimenez passes and Keenan wins. But fun match regardless.
Keenan took his back at the last second and I thought he got a buzzer beater...
Keenan could have won this match with more aggression
😂
Sick scrap
Roberto is such a badass!
I didnt like that he tried to stall at the end
Dbo Ard Jr yeah, I agree
@@syzdaman Other than those few seconds. He took it to Keenan
Dbo Ard Jr yes he sure did! Not bad for his black belt debut. Especially at that level. Keenan ain’t no joke!
12:51 he beat him before when he was a "Keller" belt?
i love the kennan game but i think it needs to be more explosive
He can be explosive. He was just trying to rly do cool shit with his guard. He was letting himself get swept so he could reset his guard to practise and showcase it again.
@@sollybrown8217 same with me, in competition I also purposely lose and let people choke me to practice on my neck strength.
You don't have to be explosive in jiu jitsu. You're supposed to stay connected the whole time.
Roberto is a better more explosive athlete then Keenan. If he played that game he was gonna lose. Keenan slowed the match down and mostly eliminated Robertos two best skills - the scramble and back take. He gassed Roberto out and he had no answers for Keenans lapel game.
Without clear dominance or a submission the guy is declared winner and he’s as happy as if he did either !!
Arrecho Jimenez!
Роберто красава!!!!
They need to change the rules to enforce more aggression and subs not win by points. 3 - 5 minute rounds with wrestling options(top, down or both up)
This match would drive Rickson crazy...match ends with a back take but the person who got his back taken wins because of points
Jumping guard to avoid take downs in such high level competition is such a disgrace
Holy fuck Keenan's takedown at 1:20
If you can just pull guard because you don’t think you can defend a takedown the rules are obviously terrible. Good rules should encourage good action not passivity.
Tbh keenan seemed very nonchalant in this match. Notice how he did not fight at all for that double leg attempt? I just feel like he either didn't respect his opponent at all or just really wasn't 'in it'. I feel like it was the latter.
2:40 need to work on that wrestling my man
i was there!
when was this?
No you weren't!
#1micael galvao...i
I'm very new to watching grappling in the gi, would anyone tell me what the ref is doing when he is putting his hand in to move the gi?
Sometimes the ref will adjust the gi when for example, the gi is covering one of the opponents eyes or someones pants are sliding off. They are there to also break illegal grips.
Roberto got saved by the bell
This event doesn't award points if someone pulls guard while the opponent is attempting a take down, or did Roberto's final guard pull not count against him because keenan was attacking the body and not the leg.
KC wasn't actually attacking when the guard-pull happened.
Poor Roberto. At least he had a good debut.
keenan didnt seem too concerned about winning
Hi-menez, dude...HI, menez...
Can someone tell me what the hell happened at 3:59??? Ref just like: "Here, let me get that for you"
Might be wrong but, I don't think you're allowed to control with your foot inside the gi, only on the lapels.
@@winestore_grindcore3223 U r right! :)
In such fashion?
🥺😱
ROBERTO JIMÉNEZ: The future of bjj...
The future of BJJ is stalling in closed guard for points? The future of BJJ is going to be cheap and boring.
Adam Thomas what match were you watching? I watched attempted back takes, a takedown,a few scrambles, and just one pull guard 🤷♂️
@@nazarethproductions7095 Agree, most of the match was high energy and fun to watch but I just can't get behind the whole stalling in guard for nearly a minute thing. Running down the clock is a cheap strategy and I found it disappointing.
Adam Thomas I agree too stalling is disappointing, but competitors have always stalled in a position when it comes to gi matches so it never surprises me. I find no gi way exciting to watch .
@@adamthomas4042 Roberto finishes alot of his matches! He finished 10 for 10 matches at world's a couple years ago
Awful camerawork wtf. Especially at the start of the fight there were so many moments where the ref was standing directly in front of the fight
Keenan takes risks, that makes his matches fun to watch. Thanks for posting this video. Points are, Eh.
Keenan won hands down!
BERIMBOLO 2 points !!!
did everything he could to squeak out the win on points, never looking for a finishing position, but isn't happy with the win?
Exactly. He settled for holding closed guard (stalling) to secure the win. Keenan is too smart for him still. Roberto is awesome but Keenan showed if you take away the scramble and back take Roberto seems a little lost.
Wow cool. Roberto won. This isn't a win. This is keenan letting Roberto get points so he could eventually tap him. Time limit yay.
Roberto got shut down for the most part. Announcers have to make it sound exciting because it's their job
Why does the ref keep moving his gi?
Usually refs try to remove a trapped foot with the gi in regular matches. Keenan was placing it there intentionally I think, but the ref kept trying to clear it 'cause he thought it would help :P.
When did Tony Ferguson start interviewing?
Keenan is very good at shutting down birimbolo.
Love the callout of steroid abuse in the sport. Oss.
9:56 wtf this corner giving +2 to keenan?
you can't pull guard from top if you don't establish a standing position for at least 3 seconds. They were standing for 2
Sugamayne i was confused about it too, thanks for clearing that up🤙
These guys aren’t some crazy bodybuilders and yet Keenan has still tapped Gordon Ryan. Technicality over strength