When the washer is picked up by the string, the first thing that happens is the string un-winds. The string eventually un-winds past its relaxed state and starts to slow down. It then stops and starts to spin in the opposite direction to get back to its natural twist. Then keeps going. Try attaching the string to a solid object, you'll see it will act the same way. The reason it moves around the X, the washers spin gets unballanced. I want to see your motor spin without the angled fins, this way heat rising would not play a part.
Instead of fixing the string to the support, instead place astyrofoam ring in a ring shaped trough of water and cross two sticks across the top of the styrofoam ring. Tie the string to the center of the crossed sticks and drop the string down through the doughnut hole and attach to the diamagnet rotor. It can never wind up the string this way.
Nice build .Did you know that you can use a fishing line snap swivel to release tension on the string so it wont over wind?It may continue to run in the same direction...with no drag from the string.
Funny thing you mentioned the snap swivels. That's what I'm using in my experiments. I'm using shields made up of six Ball canning jar lids glued together and the short stack trimmed to size. They shield two OPPOSING rare earth magnets, neutralizing the repelling force. Moving the shields out of that way just in time to make the repelling force active again. What do you think. Stay in touch.
What a fucking bonus piece of shit at the end,because just when i tout that he succeeded to make the motor run very slowly on it’s own,but then he put candles on the motor to head things up to cause it to spin,man i went mad after seeing that making me feeling sooo misleaded,GGGGRRR😡
I watched your videos with great interest. For the most part your ideas can be explained easily. FIRST: The spin you're seeing in both directions is caused by the strings twist unwinding and then rewinding as the inertia of the weighted (washer) suspended object eventually diminishes to equilibrium. If a monofilament fiber is used, the rotation will not begin until an unbalanced force causes an imbalance in the magnetic field. It too will eventually cease to twist when it is at equilibrium. SECOND: You're not taking into account the strength of the earth's magnetic field strength, which is considerable. Compass needles try to align with the earth's magnetic flux lines. The stronger the magnet you're using, the stronger the attempt to align. However, other distortions may cause interference as well. The sunrise will cause the compass needle to deflect in the sun's direction, possibly because of electromagnetic effects in the ionosphere when sunlight hits the rarified gasses at the altitude of the Aurora Borealis. THIRD: Take yourself out of the equation. Imbalanced magnetic fields have been played with forever by the smartest scientific minds around. Tesla, Einstein, Faraday. Free energy stuff has tried to use magnets forever. HOWEVER, check out the Methernitha Testatica machine in Switzerland. Free energy for real? Maybe, you judge!
6:24 - Suspend the string on a wooden structure to keep it in place, and place another large rotary above it, and see if it creates a field between them that forces it to spin?
1. do a nul-measurement: same setup only no diamagnetic blades: effect should be gone. 2. try suspending the disk by floating. keep it centered with a very small magnet in the rotation axis: effect should still be there.
A magnetic barring would be the best bet graphite in the middle on top and bottom of the disc and a magnet below and on top to suspended the disk. But you need to add a em component to the motor or it will stop no matter what material you use. This is because when the material use to propell the motor reaches a sufficient speed it creates it's own em filed that interfere with the solid state magnets.
Not to be a party pooper, but the washer at the end of the thread is spinning in one direction and then the other because gravity pulls on the thread, causing it to unwind (thread being made of twisted strands -- look at it through a loupe!) After the thread has been fully "unwound" inertia causes the washer to continue spinning, _winding_ the thread in the opposite direction. Back and forth, until you run out of inertia, and end up with a washer hanging at the end of an unwound thread. It has nothing to do with mental waves, electrical impulses, dark energy, or anything other than a thread untwisting under the force of gravity.
Nice! I really like the effort you put into trying different designs and graphically adding explanations on what the fields are doing. Keep at it. Have you tried using Bismuth in your designs? I play with it a lot and trying to create a better shield/reflector and this video of yours showing the different combinations you tried has inspired me to tackle the problem again. Thank you for sharing. Good luck to ya.
I think that stability in the levitated apparatus needs to be achieved, then controlling the spin would be the most obvious next step. You could still use low powered electromagnets with capacitor input so long as the output will be greater over time as the initial input.
try a clear dome of plastic on top if the moving assembly and support it through the center on a hard pointed toothpick - position the dome to find the center of gravity - attach the toothpick to the plastic base in the center of the non-moving assembly thru the hole you will need to drill in the moving assembly - you will end up with a view-able make-shift bearing if you can find a clear dome
With a balanced rotor, put a dimple in the top and bottom of it at dead center. Then vertically from the bottom use an aluminum knitting needle with a slightly rounded tip. The from the top, do the same with the tip facing down. A little silicone spray on the tips to lube. With nearly no force on the top needle and just the weight of the rotor on the bottom, it should spin freely. For even less friction, you could use a piece of Teflon at the bearing points or MDS plastic.
Place 15 halbach (N oriented to axis) stationary magnets in a circle. (15x24=360) Mount them diagonally in a slot. (Slot is for the Guass adjustment on each one.) Position two more Halbach arrayed on a rotor like a windmill having each one 180 degrees. But because two won't go into fifteen, the spinning magnets cannot cancel each other out! They will "fire" alternately as they move around Magnet-henge. Put some weight on it to give it the "oomph" it needs to pass any South influence' which hopefully will be nil. To accelerate, simply turn tthe stationary circle of 15. Since all the poles are North, this Repulsion Motor should work. I hope I've described it well enough. Thank you
yes the mind has power that is indefinable currently. That said, we did put our collective effort into understanding magnets and your inability to hold a string straight has nothing to do with that science. magnets always rotate because in a stable alignment there are still only 2 strong poles regardless of how many magnets you use and the fall away from balance encourages rotative pressure in an effort to meet with the other pole. (Heat is an expendable force btw no different than you slightly moving your fingers.) edit: even electrons release "spin" despite them not actually physically spinning to our perception without added force. 2x that of the force applied even. You moving through air is nothing more than a demonstrative effect of magnetic attraction, as you move forward pressure builds behind you and your muscles impart power to move you through it.
By the way. If your not shore whether or not your finger is affecting it. Why not just put the wheel part on a shaft that is magnetically levitated. That way you can have it suspended in the air and see it rotating. Like you pointed out, if it stops than the design isnt perfected.
you could attach a sculpting wheel or maybe with a small ball bearing wheel to make it spin longer while attaching to something more sturdy, making a single moving part
Instead of hanging from a string, float it in water in a flat based bowl above the base magnets,less resistance and no bearings plus once the water is turning in the bowl it should provide mechanical assist.
I think you're on the right track the the windmill thoughts. I just think we need to take it full on sacred geometry. Arrange the magnets in 3 dimensions on two donuts. In the wave form patterns of the Rodin Toroid Vortices. We need phi in order to have the proper forces at play. Simple little miter angles and bevel angles will certainly guide the way from perpendicular angles, but phi is more dynamic.
Interesting approach, and great video. It seems to me that diamagnetic materials react most strongly when the applied field is moving. When the string winds up, all motion stops, and induced magnetic forces drop to zero. It should eventually unwind. A more interesting question is... would it turn forever, and can it be amplified?
Done the object on string experiment before. It's a documented phenomenon. By imagining the object on the string moving, you are inducing very subtle movements in your own body that cause the object to move. If you tie the string up to a stationary mount and try the same thing, nothing will happen.
make sure the piece of paper clip e bearing is hanging on is as big enough to keep the bearing and rotor from falling off but small enough not to be able to get caught on the other chunksa paper clip attaching the external ring of the bearing to the rotor. this should make it be able to keep spinning. its pretty cool your working with diamagnetism I haven't seen anyone use it yet.
Why not attache the string in the center of a thrust bearing so if the string winds up tight and creates enough force to overcome the friction of the bearing it will continue to move..
try using the play head from an VCR...the chrome looking bit inside. best thing ive found that is precise and fluid. its also a motor and can be used for other things. seems to spin forever
If you have bismuth you could try diamagneticly suspending the rig. NightHalkinLight has a great tutorial on DIY adjustable bismuth levitator. Perhaps that could reduce friction substantially and prevent the winding problem. You may have to install some precautionary measures against "Eddy Curants" around the center wear this near frictionless magnetic axel would be installed.
Why not just hang the string from a stand? Why hold it and introduce this, weak, mind power shit? I'm open minded but this is dumb. I was optimistic for this channel; too bad.
try a clear dome of plastic on top if the moving assembly and support it through the center on a hard pointed toothpick - position the dome to find the center of gravity - attach the toothpick to the plastic base in the center of the non-moving assembly thru the hole you will need to drill in the moving assembly - you will end up with a view-able make-shift bearing if you can find a clear dome
lol why even recommend it when clearly just suspending a rotor from a string wouldn't allow it to spin in one direction for any long period of time. Unless it's magic string of course.
Nice, try to put a swivel on the string, or let the string hang from a sewing needle, and then the tip can be put against a strong magnet. You can also place a small magnet at the eye of the needle, to get greater adhesion force. Or tying the cord in an elongated magnet, so that it hangs at an angle, so that only a single corner will touch the magnet which is fixed above it. You can also lubricate the contact surface with silicone for less friction :-)
Substitute the string with small balsa rod with needle attached to the top of the rod. Affix neo magnet to aluminum frame so the rotor is suspended from magnet via the needle. This creates a very low friction bearing. Hopefully this method will still allow rotor to turn and at the same time stop the trolls from saying the string has been pre wound. Your years of determination to achieve rotation with magnets is to be commended. I for one have watched and learned a great deal. Keep up the good work.
Thank you. I was working on doing something like that last night, but the neodymium magnet wasn't able to hold the weight of the rotor by the needle. I'm working on it though.
This is a really cool design! You have a very passionate spirit for this and you should! This would be really cool to use this to wind a clock. Also, what if this design were used not to make energy, but to keep it! With the propert of spinning up and then stopping, you could store that enrgy until you need it. Then you pull the magnets down from disk and use that stored energy as it unwinds. I would love to see this design with a bit more weight on the disk. This being said, i havent seen your next video, but i am about to!
I didn't try it that way. There were two reasons I left the gap. The way the magnets lined up to the circumference of the circle, it would have required a larger circle if I wanted to continue the North to South arrangements I used. So I would have had two north or two south magnets in a row. The biggest reason I left the gap in the magnets though, was because I noticed in a lot of my builds that you need to break the symmetry to induce proper movement.
could be string wind or unwind but if it is true then it proves a point that quantum energy can be harnessed for clean power. it would be worth looking into doing this in a solid state concept
if it sat on a centered journal bearing instead of hung from a string you may have a little more luck the two centers may need two slightly repel each other just two maintain proper distance between the feilds
I believe you answered your question related to the string issue. You need to float your polyethylene and aluminum rotor in a pool of water and let it float with a nail as a guide.
Keep the string tie a needle to the end of the string and put the point of the needle against a magnet the friction should be low enough that the needle could rotate if it is strong enough to hold wheel.
You are moving the object hanging by the string. Hang the disc from a stationary point (Not you) place the magnet assembly in position and stop the motion of the disc from putting the assembly in place and they will magnetically stay locked. Know why? That invisibly magnetic force is not moving! That's why you don't have to keep adding shavings. they are suspended.
Thanks. I filmed it for about 10 minutes and had already shut the camera off before it stopped spinning. I wasn't sure if people would sit and watch it spinning for that long, and I didn't know how long it would actually spin, at the time I filmed it. I'm working on a new set up for the rotor. If I come up with an alternate method that I'm satisfied with, rather than hanging it from the sting, I'll post it.
Offshore Angler Extreme Stainless Steel Barrel Swivels add to the top of the string - cheap/effective/low resistance. Used them on several "proofs" work great if you already have balanced the wheel.
Totally intriguing video! I love it. Instead of a string, please next time use a magnetic suspension bearing. I mean two steel ball bearings, between them just enough magnetism to carry the weight of the spinning wheel.
Nice presentation. I wanted to built something similar. (Dia-magnetic vs Para magnetic) Nice build. Did you try bearings though. Rather than string. It would be interesting if you could overcome the resistance to start. Perhaps a magnetic bearing ??? As long as the magnetic bearing doesn't effect the rotor. Just a thought
Try using monfilament fishing string, you will not get the same effect. Or try mounting on ruby watch bearing and axle. Or unwind the string your using, then use a drill to rewind it in the opposite direction. You will see that it will not spin as freely. If it does, then congratulations, you've just defied the laws of physics and have saved the world... not to say that its impossible, but the chances are... keep up the great work, it makes a difference.
I like magnetic inventions and experiments but the thing with that washer, i think the reason of it changing the direccion is misplaced, it can come from the string it self.
Thanks. I was just having a conversation with someone about the washer experiment the other day. He didn't think it was real. Obviously, he hadn't tried it.
Hey man i appreciate the videos. The opening statements about the washer are misleading and confusing. I think you might want to edit the material so that you might get your point across more clearly. Thanks
I didn't. I own a big block of bismuth, but I already had the graphite in the specific dimensions in wanted to use, so it was easier to just use those. Bismuth may actually work better.
Bismuth WILL work better, it has the highest dielectric inertia. The only problem is that it's heavy and dense so that may weigh down the rotor. To compensate for this I would wager that having a "diamagnetic levitating" rotor may be better instead of string as there will be absolutely no friction and it will always self center.
Put the string through a bearing assembly so that it could spin freely. Then, if it spins forever, you know you have something. Also, you should demo this without the candles.
I thought that showing it spinning without the candles in the earlier part of the video would suffice. Regardless, when I extinguished the candles, it continued spinning. I would have left that portion in the video, had I realized how many people would think the candles could be causing it to spin.
Thanks MotionMagnetics, it's clear that 2 different test cases were given in the video. Unfortunately you changed 2 variables (1 - string held by hand then support frame, 2 - no candles, then candles added) between demos so the logic is flawed. The correct data will emerge only if you video the string/diamagnetic rotor in suspension from a static frame, untwisted and still, after which the lower magnet assy should be slid slowly and carefully into position. If your claims hold true then the rotor will spin many many times, until equilibrium torque is established. This is the video you need to publish! Otherwise it's quackery. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, simply offering suggestions to improve the SNR, which is an ongoing UTube problem.
I initially shot the footage with the rotor spinning between the candles, and then extinguished the candles, to show that it spun regardless. I ended up cutting around 7 minutes of footage from the video though, as I was concerned about the runtime. Not everyone on UA-cam has a long attention span. I'm working on a replacement for the string, to make a better presentation. Thanks for the comment.
Why not trying replacing that rope with a rotatible pipe, maybe those magnets can then finally overcome that string problem and should rotate forever or untill those metals will get frigle caused by heat & friction.
Ok, I'm not sure I followed the washer on a string example. Lets see the washer without any stored energy, from being twisted before hand, or motionless, before you start moving it with your mind. Why not just hang the wheel from a tripod to eliminate movement from you holding it? Watched to the end and not sure why you even discussed holding with your hand.
Maybe instead of the string attach a metal stick to a ball bearing. It will still have friction but it looks like it may still spin. Keep it up! Good stuff!
I previously tried to find how I could comment here. I had a similar idea. As the string twists, it gradually produces enough tension to allow a release into the bearing. That would receive the tension and not cause the stoppage of overwound string.
my gut feelings, you sound honest and have explained how it works, so no reason to disbelieve... i love your videos. keep going.... you are almost there..almost there.... YES... may Allah guide you.
I thought of that when I first put this together, but the air would have to be sealed around the device, for it to function the way the radiometer does.
No, certainly not. As you yourself demonstrate, pyrolytic graphite is repelled quite strongly by magnetic objects. I do not think the rotation will stop if you added the missing magnet to the hole below. It may be that the magnetic currents hit the graphite at an angle and then pushed to the side like a wind turbine, as you say. Think about Young's Double Slit Experiment in the period around 1805.
No, I agree, but it was the only option that was left, if not all of his layout was a bad joke. What it is. It is sad that he criticizes other people's fake arrangements, and so tries to surpass them.
Very good explaining the unintentionally added human factor. But why not just hang the "stator" from a frame made of some insulating material, or use the ceiling? Just wondering.
Yup, sorry my late hour bad. I skipped the end ( My bad # 2 ) I would have used a known insulator like wood or flakeboard and a string that was known insulator, unless you believe in the quantum physical world ( which I'm trying to get into ) that wood can be magnetically polarized. I make more sense when I/m awake. : -)
It is obvious that the repulsion by the pyro graphite is real. Though it does not show winding to the end it would because it is not slipping like a bearing and it will wind up and stop. Then reversing direction/unwinding would occur but be restrained how much it unwinds. When the force driving it to turn matches the force unwinding it the whole apparatus will stop. If the magnets were lowered and driving force stopped being a driving force then the string would unwind until it wound up in the opposite direction then reverse then reverse then reverse until the stored energy in the string relaxed to a non spinning state. Sure the force is minimal here but it proves valid especially with no flicker of the candle light. Well done. I will point out that the device is not perpetual but would operate until the magnets weakened to not have enough energy to twist the string at all - at least a few hundred years, lol. Perpetual is a word that means forever. Nothing lasts forever, not even the magnetic field of a permanent magnet/nor man made.
get yourself a nice ABEC 7 skateboard wheel bearing, pull the string through it and tie it to a chopped of lil chunka paper clip so that it hangs the bearing and glue the outer ring f the bearing to a couple chunksa paper clip and glue those to the rotor :P
Hi, my name is Maxfield Sohn. I don't make UA-cam videos but I just wanted to say that you really put a lot of passion into what you do so thank you for your uploads! Also If I ever design a working magnet motor, you can share the credit even if I don't use any of your ideas to make it work.
When the washer is picked up by the string, the first thing that happens is the string un-winds. The string eventually un-winds past its relaxed state and starts to slow down. It then stops and starts to spin in the opposite direction to get back to its natural twist. Then keeps going. Try attaching the string to a solid object, you'll see it will act the same way. The reason it moves around the X, the washers spin gets unballanced.
I want to see your motor spin without the angled fins, this way heat rising would not play a part.
Exactly.
Instead of fixing the string to the support, instead place astyrofoam ring in a ring shaped trough of water and cross two sticks across the top of the styrofoam ring. Tie the string to the center of the crossed sticks and drop the string down through the doughnut hole and attach to the diamagnet rotor. It can never wind up the string this way.
Wood skewer
As soon as I found out about diamagnetic graphite, I envisioned similar turbine fins. Now I want to build one more than ever. Thanks for this video.
Nice build
.Did you know that you can use a fishing line snap swivel to release tension on the string so it wont over wind?It may continue to run in the same direction...with no drag from the string.
I seen that right off,,, 👍
Funny thing you mentioned the snap swivels. That's what I'm using in my experiments. I'm using shields made up of six Ball canning jar lids glued together and the short stack trimmed to size. They shield two OPPOSING rare earth magnets, neutralizing the repelling force. Moving the shields out of that way just in time to make the repelling force active again. What do you think. Stay in touch.
Thank u so much for actually showing some enlightening stuff instead of giving us the free energy thing we see so much
What a fucking bonus piece of shit at the end,because just when i tout that he succeeded to make the motor run very slowly on it’s own,but then he put candles on the motor to head things up to cause it to spin,man i went mad after seeing that making me feeling sooo misleaded,GGGGRRR😡
I watched your videos with great interest. For the most part your ideas can be explained easily.
FIRST: The spin you're seeing in both directions is caused by the strings twist unwinding and then rewinding as the inertia of the weighted (washer) suspended object eventually diminishes to equilibrium. If a monofilament fiber is used, the rotation will not begin until an unbalanced force causes an imbalance in the magnetic field. It too will eventually cease to twist when it is at equilibrium.
SECOND: You're not taking into account the strength of the earth's magnetic field strength, which is considerable. Compass needles try to align with the earth's magnetic flux lines. The stronger the magnet you're using, the stronger the attempt to align. However, other distortions may cause interference as well.
The sunrise will cause the compass needle to deflect in the sun's direction, possibly because of electromagnetic effects in the ionosphere when sunlight hits the rarified gasses at the altitude of the Aurora Borealis.
THIRD: Take yourself out of the equation. Imbalanced magnetic fields have been played with forever by the smartest scientific minds around. Tesla, Einstein, Faraday.
Free energy stuff has tried to use magnets forever.
HOWEVER, check out the Methernitha Testatica machine in Switzerland. Free energy for real? Maybe, you judge!
6:24 - Suspend the string on a wooden structure to keep it in place, and place another large rotary above it, and see if it creates a field between them that forces it to spin?
So how come you did not hang from a tripod?
Perhaps a kind of ball and stick chain would slide, allowing continuing motion?
Excellent work sir but use one ball bearing connection and attach string wire so it continues rotation
You are truly onto something., having seen this demonstrated before on clouds I'm blown away.! Thanks for the insight.
1. do a nul-measurement: same setup only no diamagnetic blades: effect should be gone.
2. try suspending the disk by floating. keep it centered with a very small magnet in the rotation axis: effect should still be there.
A magnetic barring would be the best bet graphite in the middle on top and bottom of the disc and a magnet below and on top to suspended the disk. But you need to add a em component to the motor or it will stop no matter what material you use. This is because when the material use to propell the motor reaches a sufficient speed it creates it's own em filed that interfere with the solid state magnets.
Not to be a party pooper, but the washer at the end of the thread is spinning in one direction and then the other because gravity pulls on the thread, causing it to unwind (thread being made of twisted strands -- look at it through a loupe!)
After the thread has been fully "unwound" inertia causes the washer to continue spinning, _winding_ the thread in the opposite direction. Back and forth, until you run out of inertia, and end up with a washer hanging at the end of an unwound thread.
It has nothing to do with mental waves, electrical impulses, dark energy, or anything other than a thread untwisting under the force of gravity.
What if you used a fishing swivel so the line won't tighten
Have you considered using magnetic levitation instead of the string?
Nice! I really like the effort you put into trying different designs and graphically adding explanations on what the fields are doing. Keep at it. Have you tried using Bismuth in your designs?
I play with it a lot and trying to create a better shield/reflector and this video of yours showing the different combinations you tried has inspired me to tackle the problem again. Thank you for sharing. Good luck to ya.
I think that stability in the levitated apparatus needs to be achieved, then controlling the spin would be the most obvious next step. You could still use low powered electromagnets with capacitor input so long as the output will be greater over time as the initial input.
May I know the reason why you placed 4 pcs of lighted candles? These create wind draft over the enclosure powering the spin.
Thanks for showing the different materials used in simple tests.
Its a reminder to find out the best way the experiments will be most effective.
try a clear dome of plastic on top if the moving assembly and support it through the center on a hard pointed toothpick - position the dome to find the center of gravity - attach the toothpick to the plastic base in the center of the non-moving assembly thru the hole you will need to drill in the moving assembly - you will end up with a view-able make-shift bearing if you can find a clear dome
I was considering something like that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Use a bearing on the string connect point or better yet use a magnet suspending the rod.
With a balanced rotor, put a dimple in the top and bottom of it at dead center. Then vertically from the bottom use an aluminum knitting needle with a slightly rounded tip. The from the top, do the same with the tip facing down. A little silicone spray on the tips to lube. With nearly no force on the top needle and just the weight of the rotor on the bottom, it should spin freely. For even less friction, you could use a piece of Teflon at the bearing points or MDS plastic.
Place 15 halbach (N oriented to axis) stationary magnets in a circle. (15x24=360) Mount them diagonally in a slot. (Slot is for the Guass adjustment on each one.) Position two more Halbach arrayed on a rotor like a windmill having each one 180 degrees. But because two won't go into fifteen, the spinning magnets cannot cancel each other out! They will "fire" alternately as they move around Magnet-henge. Put some weight on it to give it the "oomph" it needs to pass any South influence' which hopefully will be nil. To accelerate, simply turn tthe stationary circle of 15. Since all the poles are North, this Repulsion Motor should work. I hope I've described it well enough. Thank you
yes the mind has power that is indefinable currently. That said, we did put our collective effort into understanding magnets and your inability to hold a string straight has nothing to do with that science. magnets always rotate because in a stable alignment there are still only 2 strong poles regardless of how many magnets you use and the fall away from balance encourages rotative pressure in an effort to meet with the other pole. (Heat is an expendable force btw no different than you slightly moving your fingers.)
edit: even electrons release "spin" despite them not actually physically spinning to our perception without added force. 2x that of the force applied even. You moving through air is nothing more than a demonstrative effect of magnetic attraction, as you move forward pressure builds behind you and your muscles impart power to move you through it.
Neat! I like the idea. It gave me some new thoughts for my own design
By the way. If your not shore whether or not your finger is affecting it. Why not just put the wheel part on a shaft that is magnetically levitated. That way you can have it suspended in the air and see it rotating. Like you pointed out, if it stops than the design isnt perfected.
you could attach a sculpting wheel or maybe with a small ball bearing wheel to make it spin longer while attaching to something more sturdy, making a single moving part
It needs something better than the string. The rotor doesn't spin with a lot of force, so it's tricky.
Instead of hanging from a string, float it in water in a flat based bowl above the base magnets,less resistance and no bearings plus once the water is turning in the bowl it should provide mechanical assist.
I think you're on the right track the the windmill thoughts. I just think we need to take it full on sacred geometry. Arrange the magnets in 3 dimensions on two donuts. In the wave form patterns of the Rodin Toroid Vortices. We need phi in order to have the proper forces at play. Simple little miter angles and bevel angles will certainly guide the way from perpendicular angles, but phi is more dynamic.
10:34 Ok but her you are helping by twists wire ;)
Use a ball bearing and i congratule.
the String is like a rubber band in a model plane !
Interesting approach, and great video. It seems to me that diamagnetic materials react most strongly when the applied field is moving. When the string winds up, all motion stops, and induced magnetic forces drop to zero. It should eventually unwind. A more interesting question is... would it turn forever, and can it be amplified?
Did you watch part 2? I summed it up pretty well in that one.
Do you thing going to the fishing store and buying a barrel swivel might be a good idea?
I did that actually, in part 02.
Done the object on string experiment before. It's a documented phenomenon. By imagining the object on the string moving, you are inducing very subtle movements in your own body that cause the object to move. If you tie the string up to a stationary mount and try the same thing, nothing will happen.
And that's how Criss Angel found those car keys.
make sure the piece of paper clip e bearing is hanging on is as big enough to keep the bearing and rotor from falling off but small enough not to be able to get caught on the other chunksa paper clip attaching the external ring of the bearing to the rotor. this should make it be able to keep spinning. its pretty cool your working with diamagnetism I haven't seen anyone use it yet.
The string is winding and unwinding on it on. the string is already twisted to make it strong. the weight is making it unwind.
Why not attache the string in the center of a thrust bearing so if the string winds up tight and creates enough force to overcome the friction of the bearing it will continue to move..
try using the play head from an VCR...the chrome looking bit inside. best thing ive found that is precise and fluid. its also a motor and can be used for other things. seems to spin forever
This is a step forward. Diamagnetic materials could be the solution to avoid inverse rotation.
Very good
Winding strings pose obstruction. Plz try balancing it on an inverted cone tip, or something similar.....
I might try that? Balancing it was tricky, even with the string though.
If you have bismuth you could try diamagneticly suspending the rig. NightHalkinLight has a great tutorial on DIY adjustable bismuth levitator. Perhaps that could reduce friction substantially and prevent the winding problem. You may have to install some precautionary measures against "Eddy Curants" around the center wear this near frictionless magnetic axel would be installed.
Why not just hang the string from a stand? Why hold it and introduce this, weak, mind power shit? I'm open minded but this is dumb. I was optimistic for this channel; too bad.
try a clear dome of plastic on top if the moving assembly and support it through the center on a hard pointed toothpick - position the dome to find the center of gravity - attach the toothpick to the plastic base in the center of the non-moving assembly thru the hole you will need to drill in the moving assembly - you will end up with a view-able make-shift bearing if you can find a clear dome
lol why even recommend it when clearly just suspending a rotor from a string wouldn't allow it to spin in one direction for any long period of time. Unless it's magic string of course.
Could you use water tension by floatation instead of a string to keep it spinning?
What about using sulphur, galena or bismuth, there are even types of iron sulphide that are diamagnetic.
Nice, try to put a swivel on the string, or let the string hang from a sewing needle, and then the tip can be put against a strong magnet. You can also place a small magnet at the eye of the needle, to get greater adhesion force. Or tying the cord in an elongated magnet, so that it hangs at an angle, so that only a single corner will touch the magnet which is fixed above it. You can also lubricate the contact surface with silicone for less friction :-)
That's not a bad idea. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Substitute the string with small balsa rod with needle attached to the top of the rod. Affix neo magnet to aluminum frame so the rotor is suspended from magnet via the needle. This creates a very low friction bearing. Hopefully this method will still allow rotor to turn and at the same time stop the trolls from saying the string has been pre wound. Your years of determination to achieve rotation with magnets is to be commended. I for one have watched and learned a great deal. Keep up the good work.
Thank you. I was working on doing something like that last night, but the neodymium magnet wasn't able to hold the weight of the rotor by the needle. I'm working on it though.
This is a really cool design! You have a very passionate spirit for this and you should! This would be really cool to use this to wind a clock.
Also, what if this design were used not to make energy, but to keep it! With the propert of spinning up and then stopping, you could store that enrgy until you need it. Then you pull the magnets down from disk and use that stored energy as it unwinds. I would love to see this design with a bit more weight on the disk. This being said, i havent seen your next video, but i am about to!
What if you attached the string the a low friction bearing at the top. Would it keep spinning
Fishing wire showed me there wasn't much to the effect. I explained it more in the second video.
Really nice content !
Why are there candles? Isn’t the heat from the candles causing wind to move under it?
What's with the candles? The heat of the candles causing a rising column of air so that it indeed is acting as a windmill?
The candles were just to demonstrate that I wasn't using an air hose or fan.
cool........does it not spin without the missing magnet ?
I didn't try it that way. There were two reasons I left the gap. The way the magnets lined up to the circumference of the circle, it would have required a larger circle if I wanted to continue the North to South arrangements I used. So I would have had two north or two south magnets in a row. The biggest reason I left the gap in the magnets though, was because I noticed in a lot of my builds that you need to break the symmetry to induce proper movement.
can anyone explain why did he light the candles at 10:00?
why not use a solid wire with a blob of solder on it through a piece of wood so there is no windup effect ?
The candles add heat and could easily cause those angled fins to be pushed. Of course it stopped the candles where pushing against the fins.
could be string wind or unwind but if it is true then it proves a point that quantum energy can be harnessed for clean power. it would be worth looking into doing this in a solid state concept
Very nice attempt. So close to finding that what eludes us all. Please keep it up!!
Thank you! Will do.
if it sat on a centered journal bearing instead of hung from a string you may have a little more luck
the two centers may need two slightly repel each other
just two maintain proper distance between the feilds
;D Ciepłe powietrze unosi się do góry i powoduje rotacje tego "wiatraka"!
I believe you answered your question related to the string issue. You need to float your polyethylene and aluminum rotor in a pool of water and let it float with a nail as a guide.
You are close, now instead of hanging by a string, you need to float it on a magnetic field, or have bearings that can spin some how...
Keep the string tie a needle to the end of the string and put
the point of the needle against a magnet the friction should be low enough that
the needle could rotate if it is strong enough to hold wheel.
maybe in a vacum on a solid Surface hanging from a nylon strand connected to a bearing would stop it rotating
The subtle movements are causing a disturbance in the field and that is why it is rotating.
The washer string is wound... it wants to unwind then rewinds due to momentum etc
You are moving the object hanging by the string. Hang the disc from a stationary point (Not you) place the magnet assembly in position and stop the motion of the disc from putting the assembly in place and they will magnetically stay locked. Know why? That invisibly magnetic force is not moving! That's why you don't have to keep adding shavings. they are suspended.
The spin is possibly being caused by the seebeck effect between the graphite and aluminium
reaturn of the twisty string!!! id like to see an over-unity yoyo as well, i bet it exists!!!
Use fibre optic line and grease it
Why did you not show a clip of it when it slows down and stops as you claim? Still nice vid thanks for sharing.
Thanks. I filmed it for about 10 minutes and had already shut the camera off before it stopped spinning. I wasn't sure if people would sit and watch it spinning for that long, and I didn't know how long it would actually spin, at the time I filmed it. I'm working on a new set up for the rotor. If I come up with an alternate method that I'm satisfied with, rather than hanging it from the sting, I'll post it.
Offshore Angler Extreme Stainless Steel Barrel Swivels add to the top of the string - cheap/effective/low resistance. Used them on several "proofs" work great if you already have balanced the wheel.
Thanks. I'll give that a try.
Try with a frictionless floating magnetic bearing...
Totally intriguing video! I love it. Instead of a string, please next time use a magnetic suspension bearing. I mean two steel ball bearings, between them just enough magnetism to carry the weight of the spinning wheel.
I was just working on a magnetic mechanism, to suspend the rotor from. I haven't been satisfied with that as an option so far.
I really can't see why it wouldn't be a great option for your project. Have you seen this? ua-cam.com/video/_STnL0U9PyQ/v-deo.html
At last! Now I,m motivated again to get Baskaras wheel going. John
I'll try that got an idea finders crossed need different magnets.
Nice presentation. I wanted to built something similar. (Dia-magnetic vs Para magnetic) Nice build. Did you try bearings though. Rather than string. It would be interesting if you could overcome the resistance to start. Perhaps a magnetic bearing ??? As long as the magnetic bearing doesn't effect the rotor. Just a thought
I'm trying several different methods, right now. Including, altering the orientation of the magnets.
You could make a magnetic levitation hub instead of that string
That's a good thought.
Try using monfilament fishing string, you will not get the same effect. Or try mounting on ruby watch bearing and axle. Or unwind the string your using, then use a drill to rewind it in the opposite direction. You will see that it will not spin as freely. If it does, then congratulations, you've just defied the laws of physics and have saved the world... not to say that its impossible, but the chances are... keep up the great work, it makes a difference.
Thanks for the comment. It's probably going to come down to balancing the rotor on something that causes very little friction.
How about placing the top assembly over a very thin needle?
Thanks for sharing!
It could also be levitated with a magnet in the center. that would be a zero friction solution but could also propagate unwanted flux loops.
I like magnetic inventions and experiments but the thing with that washer, i think the reason of it changing the direccion is misplaced, it can come from the string it self.
Wow this video is amazing i did the washer experiment and it works i give it a 10 point awesome video
Thanks. I was just having a conversation with someone about the washer experiment the other day. He didn't think it was real. Obviously, he hadn't tried it.
Hey man i appreciate the videos. The opening statements about the washer are misleading and confusing. I think you might want to edit the material so that you might get your point across more clearly. Thanks
did you try bismuth?
I didn't. I own a big block of bismuth, but I already had the graphite in the specific dimensions in wanted to use, so it was easier to just use those. Bismuth may actually work better.
Bismuth WILL work better, it has the highest dielectric inertia. The only problem is that it's heavy and dense so that may weigh down the rotor. To compensate for this I would wager that having a "diamagnetic levitating" rotor may be better instead of string as there will be absolutely no friction and it will always self center.
Put the string through a bearing assembly so that it could spin freely. Then, if it spins forever, you know you have something. Also, you should demo this without the candles.
I thought that showing it spinning without the candles in the earlier part of the video would suffice. Regardless, when I extinguished the candles, it continued spinning. I would have left that portion in the video, had I realized how many people would think the candles could be causing it to spin.
Thanks MotionMagnetics, it's clear that 2 different test cases were given in the video. Unfortunately you changed 2 variables (1 - string held by hand then support frame, 2 - no candles, then candles added) between demos so the logic is flawed.
The correct data will emerge only if you video the string/diamagnetic rotor in suspension from a static frame, untwisted and still, after which the lower magnet assy should be slid slowly and carefully into position.
If your claims hold true then the rotor will spin many many times, until equilibrium torque is established.
This is the video you need to publish!
Otherwise it's quackery.
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, simply offering suggestions to improve the SNR, which is an ongoing UTube problem.
I initially shot the footage with the rotor spinning between the candles, and then extinguished the candles, to show that it spun regardless. I ended up cutting around 7 minutes of footage from the video though, as I was concerned about the runtime. Not everyone on UA-cam has a long attention span. I'm working on a replacement for the string, to make a better presentation. Thanks for the comment.
float the pyrolitic platform on alcohol or a low viscosity liquid with the magnetic array just below it
try suspending it without the magnetic stator. Please show vid of result!
Yes, what indeed controls the direction of rotation?
Why not trying replacing that rope with a rotatible pipe, maybe those magnets can then finally overcome that string problem and should rotate forever or untill those metals will get frigle caused by heat & friction.
Ok, I'm not sure I followed the washer on a string example. Lets see the washer without any stored energy, from being twisted before hand, or motionless, before you start moving it with your mind. Why not just hang the wheel from a tripod to eliminate movement from you holding it? Watched to the end and not sure why you even discussed holding with your hand.
Maybe instead of the string attach a metal stick to a ball bearing. It will still have friction but it looks like it may still spin.
Keep it up! Good stuff!
Thanks. And thanks for the suggestion.
I previously tried to find how I could comment here. I had a similar idea. As the string twists, it gradually produces enough tension to allow a release into the bearing. That would receive the tension and not cause the stoppage of overwound string.
Releive.... Not receive.
my gut feelings, you sound honest and have explained how it works, so no reason to disbelieve... i love your videos. keep going.... you are almost there..almost there.... YES... may Allah guide you.
Thanks. I appreciate it. As always, I'll keep moving forward.
Yes! I'm working on getting those materials.
It could function in a way like William Crookes (1832-1919) Radiometer does. :-)
I thought of that when I first put this together, but the air would have to be sealed around the device, for it to function the way the radiometer does.
No, certainly not. As you yourself demonstrate, pyrolytic graphite is repelled quite strongly by magnetic objects. I do not think the rotation will stop if you added the missing magnet to the hole below. It may be that the magnetic currents hit the graphite at an angle and then pushed to the side like a wind turbine, as you say. Think about Young's Double Slit Experiment in the period around 1805.
Jod. No, it couldn't, and no, it doesn't. Sorry.
No, I agree, but it was the only option that was left, if not all of his layout was a bad joke. What it is. It is sad that he criticizes other people's fake arrangements, and so tries to surpass them.
The string is twisted already, that is why it stops rotating and spins the other direction, then stops again and changes direction.
Very good explaining the unintentionally added human factor. But why not just hang the "stator" from a frame made of some insulating material, or use the ceiling? Just wondering.
Thanks. Did you mean, the "rotor"? I did hang that from a frame, at the end of the video.
Yup, sorry my late hour bad. I skipped the end ( My bad # 2 ) I would have used a known insulator like wood or flakeboard and a string that was known insulator, unless you believe in the quantum physical world ( which I'm trying to get into ) that wood can be magnetically polarized.
I make more sense when I/m awake. : -)
what would happen if you flipped the rotor over so the diamagnetic plates are closer to the magnets and the Plexiglas is on top???
I did that, initially. Because of the rotor being suspended by a string, it kept bumping against the magnets on the stator, which is why I flipped it.
Sorry, I just thought the Plexiglas might be hindering the effect due to proximity. Good luck and maybe 2018 will be the year for magnet motors!!!
It is obvious that the repulsion by the pyro graphite is real. Though it does not show winding to the end it would because it is not slipping like a bearing and it will wind up and stop. Then reversing direction/unwinding would occur but be restrained how much it unwinds. When the force driving it to turn matches the force unwinding it the whole apparatus will stop. If the magnets were lowered and driving force stopped being a driving force then the string would unwind until it wound up in the opposite direction then reverse then reverse then reverse until the stored energy in the string relaxed to a non spinning state.
Sure the force is minimal here but it proves valid especially with no flicker of the candle light.
Well done. I will point out that the device is not perpetual but would operate until the magnets weakened to not have enough energy to twist the string at all - at least a few hundred years, lol. Perpetual is a word that means forever. Nothing lasts forever, not even the magnetic field of a permanent magnet/nor man made.
Thanks.
I laughed so hard, this is the funniest thing ever... Candles and strings!!!!
Thank you
get yourself a nice ABEC 7 skateboard wheel bearing, pull the string through it and tie it to a chopped of lil chunka paper clip so that it hangs the bearing and glue the outer ring f the bearing to a couple chunksa paper clip and glue those to the rotor :P
Hi, my name is Maxfield Sohn. I don't make UA-cam videos but I just wanted to say that you really put a lot of passion into what you do so thank you for your uploads! Also If I ever design a working magnet motor, you can share the credit even if I don't use any of your ideas to make it work.
Thanks for that. If you ever design a working magnetic motor though, I think you deserve to get all the credit for your work.
Fishing lure swivel
Thought the same thing
Went from science to telekinesis in a few seconds.