Back to school: What we learned about the word ‘Eskimo’
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2022
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The way you guys are approaching this by not only learning, but also putting out information for your fans and followers is the way everyone should handle stuff like this. Much love and respect. 💪
The issue is they're getting information from a white dude at some University. White people being offended on behalf of a minority is literally 2022 Twitter in a nutshell. Very few actual Inuit have an issue with the term Eskimo. How do I know? I live in the North of Canada with them. I've lived here for 20 years. We literally have lakes called Eskimo Lakes. No one is trying to change the name.
Why are you encouraging them in this ridiculous endeavour? NO ONE is offended by the word eskimo. It's not a slur. It's a bunch of woke shit. I absoultely HATE that wokeness is taking over my favorite music, too. F*ck this leftist insanity.
@@Zombot012 thank you! I guarantee if they bend the knee they will lose more fans then the opposite. I'll be the first
word!
@UC3R9EYzct-oHUEG38TU1x_w lmfao
I’m half-Inuk myself and living in Nunavut and honestly my feelings on the word Eskimo can be kind of complicated sometimes. I used to kinda hate it, when I lived further south, felt like the stereotypes about it were all that the people around me knew. Now I’m usually more laid back about it, doesn’t feel quite as important.
But for some people I know the word Eskimo is tied up in forced relocation, residential schools, Eskimo disc numbers (numbered dog tags used instead of names by the gov’t), and more. That being said I also know people who wouldn’t really care. I don’t know, myself. But I do think it’s important to know the history, and I’m glad you’re making an effort to learn.
But what i find online is that Alaskans still accept the term Eskimo and don't want to be named Inuit
@@pasi123567 The expert states otherwise. Not everything presented online is the truth.
@@jz8978 Then you go and change The Wikipedia article on this on multiple languages with different soruces linked
Its amazing how incredibly important people like you take yourself.
@@pasi123567 Nunavut is in Canada, so correcting me with what Wikipedia says about Alaska hardly makes sense. But, yes, in my experience people do tend to be more upset about the term Eskimo in Canada.
Part of it is probably that the eastern arctic is mostly Inuit. There are definitely Alaska natives who don’t want to be called Inuit, because they’re not Inuit. They might be Yupik or Aleut or Inupiat (Inupiat are sometimes called Alaskan Inuit, but some don’t really self-describe as such). Many people in Alaska definitely resent Inuit being used as an umbrella term because it’s not accurate for them.
But that doesn’t mean it’s universally accepted in Alaska or universally rejected in Canada. There are people in Alaska who resent being called Eskimo, and would rather just be called Yupik or Aleut or Inupiat, and people in Nunavut who don’t really care if they’re called Eskimo. It’s a little complicated, reality usually is.
You know for being such a goofy band that you are, you take this topic and your music very seriously. Quite a lot of us would possibly just change the name or ignore the topic, but you took your time to understand the whys and hows. I am truly impressed with your journey and how open you are about this.
It's a German band, Germans know their Ideologiekritik :D
This is fantastic, guys. It really shows how you're maturely addressing fan concerns!
Which fans? No one gives a sht about the word eskimo. Maybe a few over sensitive Twitter sjw.
@@clothbooster and yet here you are being sensitive about the name change guess what dont like it stop listening to the band no one will care if you go a true fan stays for the music i could care less about the name.
@@Kazumatempest I'm offended by the name Kazuma you need to change it NOW!
I don't think any band has ever done this. This is how we discuss sensitive issues.
@@clothbooster If you are right and no one cares about the name, then why are you so worried if they want to change it?
I can only speak for myself as an indigenous person but I really appreciate what you guys are doing not only acknowledging there's an issue but trying to educate your audience.
After being known as Eskimo Callboy for so long, a re-brand is a very challenging position to be in. You've a huge loyal fan base and whatever you decide, you'll still be phenomenal 🤩
I’m really proud to be a fan of a band approaching this in a really mature and open-minded fashion.
I only learned about your band a week ago from a coworker who showed me Tekkno Train. As if that stellar video and music wasn't enough to love this band, your introspective about your name change and taking the time to learn about the 'why' just elevates you so much more.
Thank you for sharing the journey. I'm only sorry that I am so late to this bangin' party.
Viele Danke.
I gotta say, it's an odd position to be in. You guys are so wholesome and it's clear that there's no ill will in pretty much anything you all do. The term has baggage behind it and I think it's a testament to how chill you all are that you brought the attention to it yourselves and are going out of your way to learn about it. Whatever ya'll end up deciding to do, will definitely still be listening.
I reckon they're gonna change it. Too many bad vibes behind Eskimo
@@Cuzjudd Exactly, also because like they told in their last video, if they keep it, they may not be able to play in certain places
@@silver6071 I vividly remember that there is a band who had a second bandname for said places... I don't remember which band it was...
Also ganz ehrlich.. Es ist unglaublich, wieviel Gedanken und Überlegungen ihr euch, zwecks einer Namensänderung macht. Dafür habt ihr richtig Fetten Respekt verdient.
Ich habe, bis vor diesem Video, die Aufregung nicht Verstanden, weil einfach keine Böse Absicht von euch, hinter dem Namen, stand und steht. Dieses Video hat mir doch die Augen geöffnet, was der Name für die Inuit bedeutet. Man macht sich halt nicht wirklich Gedanken über Sowas.
Aber egal wie eure Entscheidung ausfallen wird, ihr und eure Musik bleibt ja dieselbe. Und Fans werdet ihr durch eine Namensänderung bestimmt nicht verlieren. Also bleibt so wie ihr seid, denn so liebe eure Fans euch. LG aus Hessen.
Besser spät als nie, aber wieso erst jetzt? Die wussten doch von der Problematik seit Jahren und plötzlich wenn der ESC bevorsteht und man dort nicht mit dem Namen auftreten darf, ist der richtige Moment gekommen? Obwohl der bessere Moment doch gewesen war als Sushi die Band verlassen hat. Aber trotzdem, besser spät als nie.
Das sie dann keine Fans verlieren wage ich mal maximal zu bezweifeln. Und in der heutigen Zeit würde es mich nicht wundern wenn sie dazu noch Hater, oder wie der Sport auch immer in Neudeutsch heißt, dazu gewinnen.
Metal und Woke geht zum Glück mal überhaupt nicht zusammen. Und das werden unsere "Wir wollen es allen recht machen, und werden kläglich scheitern" Freunde auch noch ganz schnell merken.
In alten Videos haben die erzählt dass die schon seitenweise Briefe bekommen haben darüber dass das Wort nicht angemessen ist. Nur damals haben die offen rausgesagt dass denen das scheißegal ist
@@ottowelt4378 so a vocal minority complained? They wouldn't have time to read pages from the people that don't care
@@gegendenklimagemachtenmenschenMinderheiten nicht mehr diskriminieren = "allen recht machen". Mach den Kopp zu und schau einfach mal ein bisschen über deinen eigenen Tellerrand. Ich weiß, sich mit Ronny in der Stammkneipe treffen und "Ausländerz sind doof" in den Tisch ritzen ist leichter; aber versuch es einfach mal.
LG, ein woker Metalhead.
The least serious band, handling racial issues like adults, asking to authorised voices about factual sources? What a rare sight nowadays! This is amazing guys.
cringe
@@dylanthompson8425 you’re the cringe here, kiddo
this just popped up on my news feed! I am so proud of these guys for being brave and doing this, It just feels right that they are electric Callboy now it was a smart move and it marks the shift in the group when Nico joined and they should be really proud x
Really good to see you guys getting all the info and sharing it with us ☺️
Just from a continuity perspective, I like the idea of Electric Callboy or something like that so that the band initials stay as EC
Electric Core-boy
Electric Callboy is pretty good.
I might like Electric Callboy better, actually
This is a great option, big fan of it. I hope they go with this one!
Great suggestion.
People with an Eskimo callboy tattoo: “wtf am i supposed to do now”
Listen to Tenacious D
Love how consistently NICE you guys are; you get that everything has it’s time and place, and if somebody’s feelings are getting hurt you’ll hit pause and rethink. Nothing from Hypa on-out has been about “shock” factor, just great tunes and hilarious antics.
I don’t care what you call yourselves, it isn’t like you’re Eminem saying your band name every other lyric… it’s all good. 💜
I love how you are approaching this topic with so much openness and educating us at the same time. Thank you so much!
I just got introduced to your music a few days ago. Such fun music, guys.
And the fact that you're rethinking your name in this way speaks volumes to your integrity.
Props to you for keeping open minds. This is incredibly inspiring.
I am very impressed with how transparent you folks are being. It is testament to how open minded and just plain good people to be doing something like this. You are not only responding to critique, but actually acting on it in the best way possible. You are making a very tenuous and complicated situation in a learning opportunity for some many people. I think the world is a better place with people like you and things would go much better if more people acted in the way you are right now. Thank you.
It's so amazing that you guys approaching this from such an open-minded and mature place. It's really amazing to be included in this process. Also the fact that you guys are doing this all with pictures of you guys on a toilet in the background is HYSTERICAL!!!!
This is one of reasons why I respect you guys. You are mature people, who aren't afraid of learning and changing things. Love your music, keep going! ❤️💪
I admire how you guys are approaching this. You're willing to learn, to listen, and grow. Even if you decide to just go by Callboy, I think the fans will still listen.
This is awesome!! So very proud with how serious you guys are taking this. I do think with the information provided it would be a good idea for a name change. Even if you guys just changed it to Callboy! Much love and respect from a fan in America who purchased tickets and can't wait to see you.
I really appreciate how you are approaching this. I'm so happy that I stumbled upon your music this last year. You've been a great mood booster
Thank you guys for being open minded enough to seek out the information and doing it publicly. I learned a lot from this as well.
I've only stumbled across you guys last year but I just love you more and more with everything you post and put out to the world. Love you guys! 🖤🖤🖤
It's really nice to see people reflect on things they've done that could be problematic and then seek out information on the topic and learn and try to become better, more caring people. It's a difficult thing to do, and I commend your journey of education! 💚
Thank you for the update! Happy to tag along with you on this journey, and as always, you have my full support!
You guys are wonderful musicians and people!!!!! Keep rocking!!!
You are definitely two of the best boiz on the internet, loved your music and it served as an inspiration for me to visit Berlin recently (although the clubs were closed), and pick up learning german again.
p.s. I would totally request one of your songs from the dj there.
Herzliche Grüße aus Griechenland
I think it's really impressive that you're learning about this topic, taking it seriously and sharing it with us. Good luck with whatever decision you will make in the end. No matter what, I'll keep listening to your music. 💪
I have nothing but love for you all. I look forward to the future of your music, regardless of the band's name. What you're doing to further the education of yourselves and your fans is tremendously encouraging, and as many below have said, it warrants true respect.
I’m so invested in this.
Thank you for using your platform for promoting education and respect.
Rename it "eXimo Callboy", case closed !
nah but to be honestly, this is how I would want more people engage with difficult topics hittng them out of the blue.
I've got nothing but absolute respect for you guys. Whatever name you chose, should you rebrand, I'll certainly keep following you.
I'm sorry I won't be able to see you in Turin, but maybe soon, somewhere else. Cheers from Italy!
Top work, thank you for raising this subject!
Yall are truly amazing how yall handled the situation. No matter what yall are called i will always support your music💯💯🤘🤘
You guys should legit just do a whole EP or album of workout songs at this point, I’d have that shit on repeat every time I’m at the gym and I’m sure others would too 💪🏼
I think it's always a good thing to gather as much information, and to grow and evolve. Much respect to you, and so much love to you all!
So cool of you to have taken this step. Lots of love from Namibia..!
You guys are an inspiration, and are modelling a truly mature and educated approach to looking at all aspects of the issue. I'm sure we can all understand how complex it is to consider rebranding what is essentially a business that relies on brand recognition to continue to prosper. The whole conversation is generating further conversations and attention, so I believe that should a name change occur, you will only grow stronger! Rock on boys.
I have been very impressed that y'all are sharing your struggle in this position, and seeking more knowledge, and then sharing some of your newfound knowledge too. You have a fantastic attitude and approach that speaks volumes about who you all are as real people and not just the public persona. Thanks for giving everyone a glimpse into this challenging process. Wishing you all the best as you continue growing, and I can't wait to hear more music to get stuck in my head, lol. 😁
The name of the band won't affect the quality of the music. Do what feels right for you guys. If people want to get cross either at changing, or not changing, that's their choice and you can't worry about them. Kisses back guys.
Very wise and proud of the way you are going into this. I support it. I do hope the new name reflects your energy and crazy personality as a band!
Loved the workout tips comment/reference to pump it haha. You guys are so talented, and I can't wait to hear more great music from you all! Hope to see you perform live someday soon! Your music always puts me in a good mood, and best of luck with the Eurovision entry!
Really impressive to see how you guys are approaching this 🤟
I love the way you guys are approaching this with open minds and open hearts. This truly shows the band's character and how awesome you guys are. No matter what happens I will always be a fan for life, name change or no name change.
Great video guys! Very interesting to learn. This shows us the fans, how you can still rock and have fun, but be respectful. Good luck in all your future endeavors!
I respect you guys so incredibly much for this. I'm happy to see you guys take this so seriously.
Your level of self reflection is very high, while at the same time showing a huge vulnerability.
My sincere compliments for that!
Just do whatever you think is right.
And whatever the decision will be, and whatever the old/new band name will be, I will keep following you guys, and appreciate not only the insane music and humor, but also your human approach.
Greetings from The Netherlands
I'm Canadian,and I gotta say, I dont think I've ever heard anyone say "Eskimo" as a bad thing, or anyone say it was a bad label to use. Odd that I've not heard this discussion.
BUT if the groups of people that that word describes don't like the word, we have an obligation to listen, because everyone should feel included. People should be called what THEY want to be called.
I only recently came across you guys and can understand how hard of a decision this would be, but I love how open minded you guys are being about this whole thing. I was already becoming a fan, this discussion is making me moreso.
Big powers love to do labels for people they enslave, even my country and several neighbors got one despite being common europens, russia calls us pribaltyka for some reason, to dehumanify us, at least 3 countries. the Innuit and similar cultures has much worse
I'm also Canadian and it took me far too long to learn anything about residential schools, and all the fucked up things Canada did to native people all over our country. It's not something they put in the school curriculum for some reason.
@@Scotty_Shines whitewashing history to make people feel more comfortable is a very real problem with western countries, especially when those countries have imperialistic, genocidal, and enslavement prominent in their history, but it's an uncomfortable conversation, so it's easier (but absolutely wrong) to just brush that stuff aside or change details about historic events and people.
Source: I'm an American who didn't learn about 95% of the messed up stuff we as a country have done to other nations and the indigenous people living in North America before Europeans arrived.
@@mechadrake Everyone labels people, that's human brain.. we put everything in groups and categories. Stop pushing woke academia narratives.
You should start with learning why instead of "some reason" lol. It's a soviet era and russian empire term for countries "by the Baltic Sea".
There was even a german word for that area before that that means exactly the same thing.
Are people by the Baltic Sea not humans according to you? Sound more like the other way around, it was used to acknowledge the difference
The issues is; is woke academia speaking for the people or for itself? Removing "Eskimo" doesn't have one sided support by the people within the group. And as you mention, the word is not really used to offend unlike what woke academia tells us. And a lot of americans have gone insane with this stuff, trying to speak for the whole west and all white people. Those people can't even name 3-5 countries in Europe xD
👏👏👏👏👏 respect boys!
Thats an awesome approach towards the issue!
Thank you for doing that!
Große Liebe für euch, dass ihr euch so öffentlichen darum kümmert und die Welt auf diese Reise mitnehmt, ihr macht nicht nur gute Musik, seid super sympatisch und jetzt auch noch sowas 🥰🥰🥰 keep on keeping on ❤️
Showing respect for people who have been degraded, insulted, and harmed is always the correct decision in my opinion. I am so glad to see you are taking the topic seriously and at the same time exposing your fans to a discussion about it. It must be a scary thing to consider rebranding at a time when you are gaining popularity and notice. I hope you know we are listening to your music not because of the name, but because of the catchy hooks, the jokes, and the absolutely brutal breakdowns.
I love this so much. I'm proud of you guys for taking the right path. So many people try to bury their mistakes and never take complete accountability for them. This is very refreshing to see. Much love to you guys!
Edit to add: my fiance and I have been calling you guys Escreama Cowboy for a few years now-I think that would be such a good name lol
Thanks for sharing!! I guess for the very least, it is great that you can use this opportunity to educate a lot of people on this topic. For me, as well, these were some new and very interesting insights. I wish you some fruitful discussions and a lot of fun learning new things.
What an informative video. It’s great to see how you’re approaching this, very respectful. I’m massively impressed!
Thank you so much for sharing this with your fans. A complex subject but the way you are approaching it is fantastic. So much respect for the entire band.
I’m blown away that you guys actually went an educated yourselves on this topic. Aside from the details of it, this is a class in how educate one’s self in a world full of misinformation; talk to the experts. Thank you for that message.
How mind blowing..... standing ovation for the ones who got socially pressured into changing who they are for other people being butt hurt over something retarded. Shows real character and strength....... smfh
What happens when experts disagree? Right now it seems to be a world of only highlighting the "approved" experts and suppressing the others who also have very valid credentials, data and points to discuss as well. Unfortunately because of this, "misinformation" has just become a word to attack dissent.
@@HasPotatoAim When a band reaches a certain level of recognition, I'd say the band's name is a huge part of who a band is. This only continues to be true as the band gets bigger. If you change it when you're not well known it probably won't effect much, and if you change it when you are mega huge, people will probably be confused but follow along well enough because you have tons of PR exposure to help, but when you are up and coming and have a decent size following and looking to grow, a name change could potentially be devastating.
@@TheMicado16 don't call other people butthurt when you yourself feel so attacked by it you have to attack others in the comments about it. reflect on yourself please before posting.
@@grenademaster8981 i mean, yeah, we could just trust every man on the street with information. That's how you stop all progress.
define "valid credentials, data and points". most people who claim they're only attacked due to their dissent don't have any definition for that. i was listening to a lot of so-called experts when they wanted to claim they know more than the "approved" experts, but most of them were self-referential or with miniscule data. There were some valid ones as well, but they were very rare. Maybe 5% or something like that. and in the last 2 years, it's only gotten worse, because even more people claim to have any idea about subjects they only grasped the surface of and now think of themselves as experts. because "i know my body" "i know my children" etc just aren't valid points.
But your other point about the name change is correct, but if they make a large enough fuss about changing their name (as they are doing right now) i'm pretty sure they don't have to worry about losing their following. Ofc, only time will tell
You are amazing guys. This is amazing.
Love you guys and the way y’all do things
*ESC!NO CALLBOY*
Ein Vorschlag, um zwei Herausforderungen der jüngeren Vergangenheit in einem Abwasch zu bewältigen und den Klang, sowohl bei der Musik als auch beim Namen, beizubehalten.
Well done again guys. This is exactly the right way to do it. Your band is growing massively in the last 2 years so as much as the name is important to any band, you don't want it to hurt you in the long run by not being inclusive and thinking about how it affects others. We are all of us your fans because of the music and the humour, but videos like this show us the people behind the band... the real you. So glad I discovered you guys last year as it was a pretty tough year spent in and out of hospital (I won't go into details as this is not about me) and late last year I was somehow randomly recommended the We got the moves video, and was hooked from there and I can honestly say as someone who was struggling to get back into listening to music due to my health issues, you were the first guys I just kept playing over and over again, and it inspired me to start listening to all my music again. So thank you for that too.
Shut up with the inclusiveness bullshit.
You are truly amazing for acknowledging the name and then not only taking the appropriate steps but making your fans aware of the appropriateness and education of why certain terms should not be used. When I first heard this I thought it couldn't be real but great approach and handling of the entire situation. We cannot wait to see you down under!
Very cool, love how you are thinking about this!
I have so much respect for you guys after this. Wow. You're teaching me as well (and others I hope) while going through this process.
Sehr informatives Video! Frank hat sehr gut Fakten geliefert, die das ganze viel besser aufklären! Ich bin gespannt auf eure Entscheidungen in den nächsten Wochen und natürlich auf neue Mucke...
I love that you took the time to educate yourselves and all of us fans about this! I know you didn't intend to offend anyone but I think you are handling the situation in the best way possible. I already loved your music but seeing that you are also wonderful people makes me love it even more!
Definitely a challenging situation to be in, though I am sure things will work out in the end. Interesting to see though how you guys are approaching it and how you're gathering information.
Quite informative and respectful at the same time, keep up the great work (and music of course)!
Keine großen Worte nötig...
Ihr habt ein Problem erkannt, ihr habt euch informiert und werdet nun eine Entscheidung fällen. Sehr stark und auch ein großes Zeichen für jeden einzelnen der dieses Video sehen wird. Genau so regeln Erwachsene Menschen Probleme. Danke und macht weiter so! 🤘
Ja aber sie lügen auch nicht wie der nette Herr in dem Video-Call.
Die Inuit nennen sich zwar nicht Eskimo aber andere arktische indigene Völker haben damit kein Problem.
Eskimo“ ist eine ursprünglich von Cree- und Algonkin-Indianern verwendete Sammelbezeichnung für die mit ihnen nicht verwandten Völker im nördlichen Polargebiet. So man stelle sich jetzt mal historisch vor wie das ganze zusammenpasst.
Weiße Europäer kommen auf einem Land an auf welchem Menschen leben, die nicht die gleiche Sprache wie sie sprechen. Sie lernen die Sprache langsam, historisch ist nicht belegt welche arktische Bevölkerungsgruppe man zuerst vorfand und nun stelle man sich mal vor, dass es nicht die Inuit waren (welche als einzige große Gruppe ein Problem damit haben). Und die tatsächliche Fremdbezeichnung von den Cree und Algonkin stammt, welche man zuerst traf. So klingt das historisch gesehen nicht ein bisschen logischer als "man will sie zu Kindern machen", "Es war ein Mittel ihrer Macht" und welch bescheuerte Aussagen der Kerl noch getroffen hat, der keine Ahnung zu haben scheint wie SPRACHE funktioniert.
Es gibt kein Problem. Noch vor 5 Jahren würden wir über so belanglosen Mist nicht reden. Der einzige Grund für die überflüssige Diskussion ist eine kleine, laute, linke toxische Woke-Minderheit, die meint bestimmen zu können wie wir zu denken oder reden zu haben.
Eskimo Callboy haben meinen Respekt verloren, dass sie sich jetzt auch diesem Cancel Culture Mist unterwerfen
@@florianhaffner3910 wenn du probleme mit linkem Mist hast, garantiere ich dir, die Band gibt einen scheiss auf deinen Respekt
@@florianhaffner3910 was bist du denn für ne snowflake? Die Metal Scene ist zum großen Teil linksliberal, also cope oder geh weg lol.
@@gaud92 "Eskimo" bedeutet "Fleischfresser",
"Inuit" bedeutet "Menschen".
Es gab mal über 500 ursprüngliche Völker, die teilweise auch gegensätzliche Kulturen hatten, sich teilweise gegenseitig bekämpften und/oder verunglimpften - und "Fleischfresser" ist eine Verunglimpfung.
Verallgemeinerungen gab es zuhauf, zum Beispiel fassten die Römer mal viele Stämme als "Germanen" zusammen, was in dem Fall zu einer Stärkung führte.
Kolonisierung allerdings war allgemein darauf bedacht, die Ureinwohner zu unterdrücken oder umzuerziehen, ob das nun die Aborigin in Australien, Verschleppung und Ausbeutung von Afrikanern oder Vertreibung der so genannten "Indianer" aus unfruchtbaren Gebieten in Nordamerika waren. Es wird immer Leute geben, die glauben, den Ureinwohnern durch die Umerziehung zu helfen aber das Gegenteil ist der Fall bzw. sie glauben überlegen zu sein. Eltern sind ihren Kindern überlegen, deshalb redet der Experte von "man will sie zu Kindern machen" und von "Mittel der Macht".
Sprachen sind nicht immer leicht zu lernen, angeblich stammt die Bezeichnung "Känguru" davon dass die Ureinwohner von Australiern den angekommenen Europäern entgegneten "Ich kann dich nicht verstehen" als sie nach dem Namen der hüpfenden Tiere gefragt wurden.
Stell dir vor, dein Volk lebt schon seit Jahrtausenden auf einem bestimmten Gebiet mit eigener Sprache und Namen und dann kommt plötzlich ein anderes Volk, spielt sich als Herrscher auf, nennt dein Volk anders und will deine Gebräuche ausrotten um sie durch andere zu ersetzen, wie würdest du das finden?
New Names possible: Eskalation Call, Eskalate Callboy, Eternal Callboy dont know. Acually only the short name of EC would be fine i guess
Good lord I love you guys for, not only giving a damn, but also for consistently giving such fun and sometimes deep music. I’m so damn proud of you guys for how far you’ve come and it makes me happy to see y’all continuing to make music for your fans.
I love how you take us with you on your thought process/journey and by that reach out to a lot of people that might not have been aware of this issue before. Make something good out of it....:)
After watching the last two videos, watching you guy reflecting upon the matter, researching about it and sharing información with your fans... All I can say is RESPECT. You have a fan in me, even if you change your name to La Sonora de Castrop
I'd only discovered you guys in the past couple of weeks and the music already impressed me. To see that you're also considering the history and impact of your band name earns a lot of respect from me ♥️ Rock on!
Ich glaube ich habe wirklich noch nie ein Kommentar unter Videos da gelassen, aber hier brennt es unter den Fingern. Es ist wirklich krass wie professionell Ihr euch hier Gedanken um dieses Thema macht. Ich habe vor eurer Diskussion zwar um das Problem mit dem Wort gewusst, aber es war wirklich interessant dieses Video zu sehen. Egal wie ihr euch entscheidet, die Musik bleibt auch ohne dem Name einzigartig. Großartige Arbeit!
All I can say is, do whats best for you two and the band as a whole. Whatever feels right to you all. Your true fans wont be going anywhere! We love yall! Love from Michigan
E-Callboy
I don't know when or where to suggest it, if at all, but I'll make it short; the first time I've heard you'll change your band name, this was the first idea that came to my mind. It cyphers the original word and gives it a new atmosphere, and at the same time I think it still leaves room for you guys and the old fans to recognize it. Just an idea. Cheers from Hungary!
That’s good!
How about "Ewok Callboy"?
It doesn't change it to much still very recongicable, it's unique, it's a fun band name, and it is easier to say than "E-callboy" (which to be frank I think will just be pronounced by many as "eskimo callboy" unfortunately).
@@puglosipher1666 I was just thinking of it as a letter, which is usually used for digital services (e-mail, e-book), since the band is quite modern and energetic
Or maybe something that sounds similar like:
- Asking a Callboy
- Ass-kim 'o Callboy
Or retaining the context:
- Inuit Escort
@@puglosipher1666 Ewok is funny too. Though I d rather like Eldrich Callboy, with a sexy cthulhu as their logo.
This gentleman was a really great guest to have. He was very clear, cohesive, and informative for all of us. As a long time fan, I knew this name change would come eventually. Proud of your growth and for sharing this with your fans. :)
Except most Eskimos dont have a problem with the word Eskimo... only white liberal intellectuals (like this guy), who want to save all those poor minorities from the bad white man, have.
Btw... stop calling us Germans. Cause the word was invented by the Romans who tried to conquer our land. They used it to brush all tribes living west of the rhine river together. You know, all those savages who weren as technologically and socially advanced as they were!
@@Smido83 Gonna need your source on the "most don't have a problem with the word", chief.
@@Smido83 bruh, the dude in the video literally discusses how Inuits specifically requested they not be referred to as eskimos
You guys are awesome for doing what you are doing! Growing as a group!
You guys are so awesome 🔥
Gents, never one to comment but love the music; no matter what keep it going you are appreciated more than you know. Take the time to reach out to Canadian Inuit groups please if you can as this is where the term originated and I wasn't sure the lean/message from your interviewee was accurate.
The etymology of “Eskimo”
According to Inuk author and translator Mini Aodla Freeman, the term “Eskimo” came from another Indigenous language in Canada: Cree. In Cree, the word is “escheemau” which roughly means “eaters of raw meat.” Freeman explains the word developed after the Cree first encountered Inuit and found them eating raw meat-a way of life the Inuit proudly continue on until this day. [1]
Another theory is that the word has an Innu-aimun origin, a language spoken by the Labrador and Northern Quebec-based Innu. This word is “awassimew/ayassimew” which means, roughly, “one who laces snowshoes.” Originally it may have been used by the Innu to describe the Mi’kmaq and later transferred to the Inuit. Over time, this word too developed into “eater of raw meat” as in Ojibwa (similar to Cree), the prefix “ashk” can mean raw or fresh. The French later translated the word to “esquimaux” which made its way into English use
Why “Eskimo” is pejorative
Using “Eskimo” today is considered pejorative or derogatory simply because “eater of raw meat” is not how Inuit choose to refer to themselves, and they never did. The word is an exonym-a name given to a group by another group-and its continued use can perpetuate harmful stereotypes. [3] As Mini Aodla Freeman has written: “To me the word ‘Eskimo’ does not mean anything. […] Inuit differentiated themselves from the animals of nature, not other races.” [4]
The name “Inuit,” however, comes directly from the Inuktitut language and is the preferred term of the Inuit. In 1977, a group of Inuit delegates from across the circumpolar region met in Alaska for the first Inuit Circumpolar Conference. There, they discussed Inuit rights and self-determination. The ICC proceeded to adopt the term “Inuit” to designate all Inuit within the circumpolar region, thereby rejecting the use of “Eskimo.” This is stated in the ICC charter, signed in 1980. [5] To continue to refer to Inuit as “Eskimo” can be viewed as disrespectful toward Inuit self-determination.
Very good point. But i would like to emphasize that exonyms aren't necessarily bad. A simple example would be the name of Deutschland in French & English. It is part of our own culture, heritage and language to call what is foreign to us. While i agree with the anti-colonialist view and acknowledge the pejorative use within Canada of the word, it's root isn't the "raw meat eater". According to José Mailhot, the root comes from proto-alguoquian and means "speaking the language of a foreign land". Furthermore the word doesn't carry any negative other language like French. In my opinion, the band is right to research it and make an informed decision, not associated with a pejorative word, but acknowledging that the crusade against this word could be wrong and keeping the name would be also fine.
I do love that you guys are doing the deep dive here to figure out where you stand in terms of keeping or changing the name, but, if you understand that with a band name change, people will ALWAYS say "The band formerly known as Eskimo Callboy."
It's not as if you could escape the mention of the name as it is currently.
Love you guys🤘🏼
I am so glad that you took the opportunity to learn the history and why we need to be kind to everyone around us in this world. I’ve known a few and have studied a bit about their culture. It is fascinating yet I felt that they deserve respect.thank you for sharing the conversation! Even our signed names for them has changed so much that I am still learning. (American Sign Language)
I have a lot of respect for what you are doing and how you are going about it. There are so many things and concepts we learn that seem harmless to us, but can have a profound negative impact on others. These are the kinds of conversations and mentality that can make big changes in the world.
Much respect to you guys trying to educate yourselves as much as possible before making any kind of decision. Especially impressed with how much you're putting this out here for fans to see each step of the process, too. It's obvious to see that this is not an easy decision and from all sides here and it's a complex issue.
I really hope you guys don't change the name because I feel like it can hurt the momentum and viral nature of how you guys have progressed the last few years and it's obvious you guys have had no bad will when choosing this name. That said, if you do change your name, I'll always keep listening.
I appreciate the way you guys are handling this. Not rushing a discussion, taking it seriously, but also learning about where the issue stems from.
@wnnalis cioov it's was what the British called the indigenous people in the North artic areas
I hope I didn't miss your live! I don't pay enough attention to Instagram notifications.. also I really respect how you are educating not only yourselves but your fans as well. Thank you for this very informative video and putting care in everything you do!
I’m Native but honestly, I think you should just leave the band name.. you guys are amazing and great! Love your stuff!
Thank you for having common sense !
They should interview you. It would be a more meaningful conversation.
@Kirk: Exactly what i thought. They should also talk to natives and if this is a (white academic) made up problem or a real problem.
@@wallung1876 there can be differing opinions within groups as well. Some care, some don’t. It’s still important to be sensitive and listen. Where I’m from, it’s considered an offensive/outdated label.
@@OutLookification absolutely true. But again, the important voices to listen to should come from within the comunity which is subject of the discusion, not western "academics" being offended on their behalf. Just look on how often it is tried to force the use of the term latinx, every single time i come across an article with this word i see people in the comment section who are allegedly part of that community and hate it with a passion. I must stress, these are comments on the internet so it would be fair and reasonable to question if someone is actually part of that demographic or not, but what i actually haven't witnessed (not sure if it is spelled this way, sorry) ever was a single person being supportive of the use.
You guys understand social media and interaction with the community better than any other band. This, together with your awesome music and your fun and passion is the future of metal in my opinion. Thank you for everythink you gave us so far and everything that is to come. You are legends 🤟
I honestly respect you guys so much for this.
You guys fucking rock. Love everything about your band
I live in Edmonton Alberta Canada, where the name of our football 🏈 team was called the Edmonton Eskimos. It is only recently that the name changed due to its connotations. So, even here in Canada where we have a huge population of First Nations, we are still learning the meaning of that word. I applaud you for becoming informed and learning about this, it is great. I wish other Canadians would do the same as you.
Ich finde das absolut großartig das ihr so selbst reflektierend seid, da freue ich mich gleich noch viel mehr auf die Tour. Ganz egal wie ihr zu diesem Zeitpunkt heißen werdet.
This was really interesting and informative! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for putting that information out and using your platform to educate people on the topic, I am now better informed on it myself. And thanks for sending kisses our way at the end, I don't remember the last time I smiled that big
Love you guys! I really appreciate your approach! Not only do you discuss it within the band and listen to experts, but you also communicate that to your fans! That's awesome and I learned something new and created my own opinion. I'm a kayaker and have always called the technique for rolling up your boat: "Eskimorolle" because it has always been a normal german word for me. But today I decided to call it differently like "Kenterrolle". And even if you will not change your band name, you should know there is a positive outcome of this discussion (and I will still love you and your music)!
So... Would you have any problem with the name "Malamute Prostitute" or do you think someone would get triggered? :D
No matter what you’re name is, I will always love this band. You guys are so nice and funny and care about the music. You guys are great and I hope you guys will find a name you like. 🤘
Well I learned a lot from this video. Thank you all for taking the topic serious, learning and spreading the information for others to learn from as well.
Y'all are amazing. I love your music. Regardless I'll see y'all in October when you come to San Antonio.