You are still the best! I love to listen to you talk and get a great giggle from your humour. No matter what the subject you have great things to share! Thanks for reminding me about a trip around the palette,
Oooh....fav colors! More please! From alllll the brands! Im tryin to decide what sennelier tubes to order....i have five and they are so buttery i will have them to compare with your mgraham favorites as they both have honey
Thanks, Steve, for your input on these colors! You have so many good hints that I use when doing watercolors with my young grandchildren! We'll do the trip around the palette! Enjoy the beautiful spring!
I have one of those credit card case palettes and I love it. I think you will enjoy it. I tend to use it for sketchbook work so it primarily gets used with a water brush. It fits in my minimal sketch kit and I love that I can easily throw a little color on a sketch on the fly. I've also made bigger pieces with it while killing time in coffee shops and stuff, so it's surprisingly versatile. Thank you for talking about Moonglow. I was inspired to use it as a Neutral Tint after watching one of your videos. I also love it's sister Shadow Violet and keep them both on my palette. I also love that you have those four Daniel Smith Primeteks in the bigger palette too. I keep a few on mine (Sodalite and Zoisite in particular) because of the granulation and I love dropping them into mixes of similar hues just to break up texture. Thank you again for all your wonderful videos. I've been teaching myself to make art these last three years thanks to you and so many other generous and inspiring UA-camrs.
Finally realising I have too many colours. My paintings are confused. Now working on my perfect limited palette. Thank you. Would have loved to have seen some of the mixes you spoke about.
I love the DS Apatite Green Genuine too. Love the different shades of green with the different pigments in it and how they settle out. Awesome for any vegetation.
Thank you Steve for a great lesson on palettes.I like your suggestion to just play around with mixing the various colors to see what happens. I have been doing that out of simple curiosity, but now I see the benefit of making a project using the colors in my collection. Once again, thank you for being you.
Thank you so much, many of these colors are in my favorites palette, but what I have been wanting was a well put together palette not just my random choices, this is perfect! I have an empty 18 palette and I know I will have to add in a few extra of my botanical colors for my perfect palette. I love your gentle teaching style, and your sense of humor
This is a great video for us watercolor geeks, oops, I meant WC students. It’s fascinating to learn what pigment combinations you’ve experimented with, Steve. I think you could do a follow-up video(s) on the various mixing possibilities, especially further with the violet, which isn’t an obvious choice for greenery. Well done and thank you!
Steve, I get 24 1/2 pans in my Altoid tin; the same size as the tin you are showing. I do this by using a credit card that I place double stick tape on. It serves as my top rows (12). I cut a notch in the corner of the card so I can easily take it out. In the top of the inside of the Altoid tin, I place a cooler chart, which I divide into top and bottom paints and cover with acetate plastic..
Thanks, Steve. I loved this video. I have a new palette that I have been holding on to and wanting to use for just this purpose--favorite colors that will mix together and do lots of different things. It has 18 spaces. I have many of the colors you have in your palette. I am going to take note of those and see what I come up with. I also will take trips around the palettes like you suggested! Great lesson, as usual!
Absolutely had to comment on this excellent video:). Just love the colors and also, your input and information on them! I can envision these making some beautiful landscapes! Thank you so much for sharing your tips and experience. Very much appreciated as it saves us from wasted expense and time:). Kudos!
Wow, wow, wow, I loved this. The pigment choices explained for what they do for you. The bit of mixing 😲. Yes, I could watch that for 2 hours 😁. I am educated and inspired to further educate myself on what works for me.
Thank you so much, Steve. I found the color swatch stamp items that you showed in your video a couple of months back. What a time saver they will be. Can't wait for them to arrive. Thanks
Thanks for sharing. These are some very lovely colors. I did a color mix chart a few weeks ago when I received a 12 color set of Holbein from my daughter. I have only glanced at it a couple of times and really hasn't been very useful. But at least it was very tedious. Won't do that again. Haaahaaa! That being said though, since I am a new water colorist it was an eye opener to see what can be mixed and still get a nice clean appealing color. It was a learning experience but only a one time deal.
Color charts are useful for beginners. Good practice for making incremental mixes but like you it just feels tedious and I never refer to them later. Would rather mix on the fly. Thats why its important to be able to mix without thinking.
Super informative Steve! Thanks for sharing! Yes, I tried your trip around the palette method and I agree, it does help me understand better how each color mixes together! Much for fun for me. :D
Wow, this really gave me an ah ha moment of understanding. Mixing colors is difficult for me......but for some reason this just clicked. As always, Thank you!
Loved your approach. I like how you replaced Ultramarine, I have been looking for alternatives for a while now but can't risk going without it yet. It is a great exercise to sift all the colors down to 12, I was forced to do this with Portable Painter and just labored on it for days. This video would've been so helpful :D
I experienced one of those "good hurts," well twice actually - laughing hurts so bad right now and I should have known better than to watch you because there's always that chance ... but I just had to watch anyway. Thanks for the side by side view of Transparent Red Iron Oxide and Quin Rust! I could see the difference very well with your camera. TRIO is definitely more earthy. I found your reasons for the "life altering, game changing" color palette very interesting. I will keep my fingers crossed for a landscape painting demo, especially one showcasing that blue violet. On a side note, the end verse is so profound - yet, I was not familiar with it. Neat.
I think basic landscaping colors go across just about all landscapes. The proportions are different. For instance, I live in the desert southwest. Lots of earth tones, mostly reds, oranges, pinks, some gold, and what I could call “flesh“ tones. There is some green, and a lot of the shadows have blues and violets. Some gray, but you would be surprised at the amount of violet you see in the shadows of the red rocks here. Love this video!
Great information on palette selections. I enjoy watching how you mix and explain what and why. About the small silver palette, couldn't find it, can you tell me where to find it. Looks like a great small travel selection. Again, thank you for your time and effort and helping us learn more about this art.
Hi, Steve! I just watched this video for the second time! I caught some more points that I missed the first go round. It is so great to be able to have another look at your videos. I am interested that you chose Moonglow over Payne's Grey for your shadow color. I use both, and I don't think I can do without either one. You introduced me to MG Payne's Grey years ago, and I use it over DS. It is the one that I always buy, even though I mostly use DS. I am still thinking about my new 18 color palette that I am organizing for painting landscapes and, of course, birds, both marsh and backyard birds. If you have any other suggestions, I would love them. I love DS Pyrol Red for woodpeckers and I love Raw Sienna and Buff Titanium.
Amazing video. This is a great idea starter. Good to know I already have a few of these. Got the primatek sampler a couple weeks ago and thought 🤦♀️!! The perylene maroon I also have. I’m getting more courageous and informed every day. You are so insightful and know how to teach this. Thanks!!
Yay, combined pallet. I have an M Graham/ Turner pallet. Still trying to figure out my colors. I'm very basic. A warm and cool of each and some earth tones. M Graham sure spoils me though. So easy to pick up.Lol. 😉
I absolutely adore the DS Apatite green too. And their Mayan blue! The W&N viridian is PG18 and is a fine granular. The W&N tere verte yellow shade (PG23) is a lovely soft mossy green. Try the DS roasted French ochre. Bet you’ll find it nice for portraits. It’s PR102.
You know i love mixing colors soooo much but.....i also love love having tooooo many even if i dont use them, i just love a beautiful full pallette.....i think i may just be an art supply junkie
What an odd /cute range of colours. Its like rotating the dial that looks for the usual key colours. A lot of pigments that are new to me but first glance it looks like you can produce a lot of good compliment greys from that collection. Like your thinking.
Yes this helped me to understand a pallet better. So if I want to paint the face of a white horse with a smokey background then I would make my pallet accordingly? Like put some off white and light greys in my pallet or would I use the white of the paper as my white? I'm going to draw it in grafite first. I have my white gel pen also. I'll probably have to paint this several times before I get it halfway decent looking. Lol. Thanks for the ideas. I think the moon glow would be good for this type of painting also. Thank you for sharing. 😎
Green Apatite Genuine is my favorite DS green. I'm also partial to Undersea and Cascade for effects. Oh, wait, I lied. Also Perylene Green. All of the colors!! 💚
Barbra Loveless oh, I agree Barbara!! I too love the primateks with green apatite genuine being my favorite also!! I just ordered perylene green. I have it in schmincke but not Daniel Smith.
Yes green apatite is my only green in the palette because you can't get that weird and granulating tonal and hue variations mixing any given set colors. Is an amazing pigment.
Thank you. I understand now. I will be attempting to replicate your pallet because I have a few sets and I am learning quickly what hues work for me and what don’t. I like landscapes too so the goal is realistic nature colors instead of baby nursery colors. Thank you for all your work.
I use cobalt deep by winser newton as a "replacement" or substitute for ultramarine. It granulated and almost a exact match in hue. It's just nice to NOT have the same old ultramarine.
Thank you, Steve. This was very helpful and informative.I like trying new colors and I've noticed you using the Apatite Genuine numerous times and wanted to know more about it. I bought a Forrest Green sometime ago from Cheap Joe's and never used it until recently. It is a mix of Chromium Oxide Green (PG17) and Natural Iron Oxide (PBr7). So, even tho its a convenience color, and it's slightly opaque, it granulates beautifully. I might use the Apatite Genuine in it's place, since from looking at your video, they look similar in color. Loved the video.
I only use six M Graham colours, including Quinacrodine Rust to mix all of my colours and since I bought them, the Quinacridone Rust is the colour that I'm going to have to replace first. I must admit I have been using SAA Burnt Sienna recently but mainly stick to my M Graham colours. Great video Steve. Oh and I hate golf to.
My favorite mixed pallet that I made up is the Daniel Smith Intro set, and the QoR high chroma set. i get all the mixing my heart can take without missing out on the brights, and I get to keep quite a bit of the granulation. The paints mixed really have some interesting results and I love, love, love it!
@@jaimeanderson9238 I have never had a problem with them working together, as a matter of fact the QoR Trans. Pyrrol Orange, and D.S Quin. Rose.. omgoodness.. it is absolutely beautiful.. Only "real" issue (quoted because its not a problem for everyone, myself included) is that with the 2 sets that I use. The QoR Cobalt teal, has a tendency to separate, like if you mix QoR Cobalt teal and any of the other colors in the QoR (and a few of the D.S.) set you will get some pretty obvious color separation (which is rather pretty with the cobalt teal and the Trans. P. O. mentioned earlier, looks kind of like oxidized rust) Other than that I have had no problems at all.
I love your "trip around the pallet" and I've never done a mixing chart, but for being just 15 months into watercolor and having a terrible memory which technique would you recommend to remember what your colors do when mixed? Thanks as always for videos with such great content! You da' best!!
Linda Smith I personally would get a little book, either divide with little different coloured post it notes so you can easily turn to each different brand, then write down in their what happens when you mix this with that etc, then you always have it and can easily turn to that brand and look it up 😀
This was an interesting video for me. Recently I have come to find that perylene maroon and indanthrone blue are really, really useful colors for figure painting. My question is how long it takes for the M. Graham paints to harden so that you can use them in a little watercolor palette like that. I have a 12-color palette that I will be filling soon, for our upcoming summer in Lake Lure. I haven’t used M.Graham paints because of how soft and sticky I have heard they are and even though I mostly work inside, I know there is enough to see around where we will be that I thought it would be better to get a small, useful palette. I too, find too many colors a bit confusing, but since I am planning to carry a smaller palette, I don’t want the paints to run into each other!
In regards to how fast M. Graham paints dry, I think it depends how humid it is where you live. Where I am in the Midwest, mine dries in a few hours to overnight depending how much I want to risk it. However when I was in Cancun, it took several days to dry so I don't recommend them if you travel or live somewhere humid...I still love my M. Graham paints though, just use them mostly at home. Hope that helps!
To add to what @E Huey said, it depends on the climate AND on the color/pigment. I live in the Seattle area where we have dry summers and damp winters and M Graham colors can take weeks or more to dry enough for a travel palette, but most colors are fine after that. Some colors like Cerulean and Nickel Azo Yellow work great in my travel palette, but some never really behave (for example, Indian Yellow leaks on me no matter what, so I mixed it with DS Hansa Yellow Med PY97 to make more of a New Gamboge color and it's now a stable staple in my urban sketching palette). I would suggest filling a pan only halfway, leave enough room for a little movement when humid and don't leave in the sun if possible until you've tested it for awhile.
Thank you for sharing this. I have a couple of travel palettes to put together and I want one for landscape and one for floral. I do have a question. My M Graham turquoise is much darker and much more blue than your swatch but it seems to match my DS Phthalo Turquoise. Has M Graham changed the formulation do you think? Mine is an older tube.
Adventurous art supplies, I really want to see you fill and use that one. The thinness appeals but wondering if the paint will spread and how much you get in it is it a one painting palette.
Oh no, a little watercolor goes quite a long ways actually. If the kit is small the paintings will be too. You wouldn’t use this palette for larger studio paintings obviously. These pans hold plenty enough for quite a bit of sketching.
@@mindofwatercolor Thanks for the details Steve. Outdoors it is usually 5x7 (A5) occasionally A4. Found them on ETSY £3.60 but $11.5 delivery. Hope to be in USA soon and will try and get it then give it a go.
Nothing. I was trying to decide how to use the swatch card stars and started by crossing how many stars the rating was, but not ever brand uses the same rating system. I just decided to write Exc. VG or G. I don't really own any colors that aren't Exc. or VG
2 things - if I wanted to add a cool yellow to this pallet, what would you recommend? Also, would you please show us some more of the mixes that you can achieve? Thank you.
as you do landscapes, did you ever tried schmincke hoaradams transparent orange? I love that colour (although I rarely use it as beginner). it is so transparent and intense at the same time. and glazes across a landscape section is so effective. I wonder, how you would like it
@@mindofwatercolor if you ever get the opportunity to try it, try it. there must be a very close one to this by Daniel Smith. but as I know, they are similar, I will stick to Schminckes - for this tone at least.
Those Primateks look really intriguing. I recently started trying to dip my toe into more artist grade ones, but since I'm German and I really wanted to get more local brands, something that doesn't have to be halfway around the world, I started out with Schmincke's (also those are like half the price of say Daniel Smith colours ^^') The Primateks look unique enough to justify treating myself to some of them in the future. I like the idea of using the actual jewel stone pigments :3
I agree about the DS Viridian green. I have another question: I know that you use quite a bit of M.Graham paints which I believe are honey based, as is the Sennelier brand. I am still working on building my favorite pallet. Have you compared the M. Graham with the Sennelier? If yes , you obviously bought M.Graham instead of the Sennelier and I was wondering why. I also have a set of Mission Gold, another honey based paint, which I am pretty happy with, but in future wonder which way to go. Thank you so much for your help and teaching!
Very interesting! I’m trying to select my more used colors to make my own limited palette and this helps to focus in what’s important. Could you put the link to the card size palette shown in the video? Thank you!
Expeditionary Art first developed and perfected this type of palette and has lots of pan size options: expeditionaryart.com/shop/art-toolkit/#the-pocket-palette
Hi Steve, I learn a lot from your work...so thanks! One question though about your new 12 color palette has to do with having only one alternative for yellow. Can that be enough in terms of a warm and cool choice? Randy
For me and for landscape? Absolutely. And, as I mentioned in the video, it sits close enough to a cool yellow to mix well both ways. It makes a nice orange as well as gorgeous greens.
I love the feel of the M Graham paints in the palette, But it is really different from the Daniel Smith paints. Does this difference cause you any problems or frustrations when mixing? Which brand do you use as the base for mixing? For example do you mix DS into a glob of MG paint or do you go the other way? Is there really any difference?
Quite the opposite. Its why M. Graham is my favorite paint. And it mixes fine with other paints. I recommend you only mix paints on the palette with watery washes not as paste out of the tube.
Great video thanks. Just a question, I picked up some m Graham and it seems to not harden in my pans and stays to soft. Do you have problems with it oozing out when you travel? I've never had this problem with my Denial Smith paints they always harden.
I don't have a problem with M. Graham oozing but I know some people do. M. Graham is a honey based paint (Daniel Smith is not), so it retains more moisture. The trick is, after you squeeze it out onto the palette, let it air dry in the open for at least a week. It will become firm like a wad of gum. It will stay sticky from the honey but it usually doesn't run after that. After a painting session leave it out to dry overnight at least.
Great palette selection, I really eant to try some of those M. Graham colors that I haven't, they're appealing to me the more and more I see from them. Question: How did you do for your paints not to bead on your metal palette? I know M graham's doesn't bead that much, however Daniel Smith does and it gets worse with some colors, but I see the paint beautifully pooled in the mixing area, how did you do it?
May not be so, but on my computer screen, your MB Perm. Violet Bluish looks close to M. Graham's Ultramarine Violet Deep. So hard to choose - so many great colours. I also love MG's quin rust.
Okay first off I'd be fine with the two hour show me what all they do with each other! Okay here's me, no clue what I'm doing, but I want to learn. Very limited fixed income but I don't want to spend money on cheap stuff just to have to get good stuff later or get frustrated cuz the cheap stuff doesn't look good. Questions. First what made you throw over the red iron oxide? I saw another video for you just love that and I fell stupid in love with it. Does it have to do with out mixes with others? I'm pretty sure you said that was granulating and I love granulation. I feel like I'll do a lot of the same type of stuff you do, Landscapes, little mountains here and there, sunsets. I do like this palette a lot but I'll need to start out basically with primaries and mixing while I save for more colors you know if a couple each month or something. What three would you suggest starting with from this palette? My whole world pretty much is purple, but I am with you the first time I saw that apatite green, again stupid in love with it. I watched videos from all kinds of people with all kinds of colors and this one, except for that magenta I can't stand pink, really speaks to me. That said, does that one do great stuff with mixing with others or did you just want something pink? LOL do I get the prize for the longest comment? 🤣
Yes, I still love red iron oxide. This is just a different palette, not a replacement. I use a number of different palettes. All slightly different. Don't over think colors use what you love.
Hi Steve, Don't want to be a pest, so my apologies if I am. Just Ordering paints off of Amazon and discovered there are 2 or 3 different shades of, Apatite Green Genuine - Daniel Smith, listed and I am not quite sure which shade you used in your palette and the video. Do you remember? Thanks!
What is the brownish premetex? Am going to try this but try to use something I have besides mymerriblue. I have more artist grade paints than I will ever be able to put a dent into before I can no longer paint.
If anyone is interested in comparing or trying M. Graham colors on the cheap I got a dot sample pallete on Etsy. I think she does 12 colors in a mini pallete wheel. I went with the 8 original colors you featured and she was willing to do doubles of the colors I picked to fill the wheel. The dots are generous. Enough for a few small paintings. The good news is my cheaper colors were comparable to M. Graham so now I have a travel pallete. Lol Also please stop featuring awesome stuff I want. Lol
Thank you, again, Steve. One question: what is your experience of the uniqueness of the Maimeri Blu's Permanent Violet Blueish verses the M Graham's Dioxazine Purple? I note that they have the same pigment, though they may behave differently. M Graham's is the only one I've tried, and while it's my favorite violet color, it is a very strong, heavily pigmented color, similar to their Anthraquinone Blue in intensity.
You shouldn’t get rid of the mini palette!!! First: it is too cute 😊! Second: place it in your car or your bag that you carry everywhere. There will be a time when you will be really thankful to have some color (and a waterbrush) for using an unexpected “waiting time” to paint. Well, I do carry a mini like yours everywhere. Always. And I really appreciate it. 😊👍🏻
Those landscape people are just lucky... I could so do with this kind of video for flowers/leaves, especially from the M. Graham range.
Good idea. I will spend some time on mixing colours.
You are still the best! I love to listen to you talk and get a great giggle from your humour. No matter what the subject you have great things to share! Thanks for reminding me about a trip around the palette,
Oooh....fav colors! More please! From alllll the brands! Im tryin to decide what sennelier tubes to order....i have five and they are so buttery i will have them to compare with your mgraham favorites as they both have honey
Thanks, Steve, for your input on these colors! You have so many good hints that I use when doing watercolors with my young grandchildren! We'll do the trip around the palette! Enjoy the beautiful spring!
Thank you very mutch for all your very useful tips!!
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I have one of those credit card case palettes and I love it. I think you will enjoy it. I tend to use it for sketchbook work so it primarily gets used with a water brush. It fits in my minimal sketch kit and I love that I can easily throw a little color on a sketch on the fly. I've also made bigger pieces with it while killing time in coffee shops and stuff, so it's surprisingly versatile. Thank you for talking about Moonglow. I was inspired to use it as a Neutral Tint after watching one of your videos. I also love it's sister Shadow Violet and keep them both on my palette. I also love that you have those four Daniel Smith Primeteks in the bigger palette too. I keep a few on mine (Sodalite and Zoisite in particular) because of the granulation and I love dropping them into mixes of similar hues just to break up texture. Thank you again for all your wonderful videos. I've been teaching myself to make art these last three years thanks to you and so many other generous and inspiring UA-camrs.
This man is so wholesome, thank you sir for doing your art thang. I love watching your stuff while I do my illustrative work
Finally realising I have too many colours. My paintings are confused. Now working on my perfect limited palette. Thank you. Would have loved to have seen some of the mixes you spoke about.
I love the DS Apatite Green Genuine too. Love the different shades of green with the different pigments in it and how they settle out. Awesome for any vegetation.
Thank you Steve for a great lesson on palettes.I like your suggestion to just play around with mixing the various colors to see what happens. I have been doing that out of simple curiosity, but now I see the benefit of making a project using the colors in my collection. Once again, thank you for being you.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Interesting, and very interesting regarding violet. Thank you very, very useful video.
Many ideas to think about. Always you give me ideas to try. And do I need to learn to mix. Thanks for sharing.
Green Apatite is my favourite too! Such a gorgeous earthy green with brownish granulation!
You make me smile and I love your recommendations.
Thanks Steve, I'm off to take a trip around my palette and see what comes up! Have a great weekend :)
Thank you so much, many of these colors are in my favorites palette, but what I have been wanting was a well put together palette not just my random choices, this is perfect! I have an empty 18 palette and I know I will have to add in a few extra of my botanical colors for my perfect palette. I love your gentle teaching style, and your sense of humor
Thanks, Steve. As always, very informative, very enjoyable!
This is a great video for us watercolor geeks, oops, I meant WC students. It’s fascinating to learn what pigment combinations you’ve experimented with, Steve. I think you could do a follow-up video(s) on the various mixing possibilities, especially further with the violet, which isn’t an obvious choice for greenery. Well done and thank you!
Yes! I absolutely love the mixing videos!
Really like your new pallet combo. May have to try them out.
Great intro! 😀 Some of those colors are still singing to me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on them.
Thanks Steve. Liked the video. Definitely gave an insight as to making up a personal palate.
love this video! gives me some good ideas about my palette
Steve, I get 24 1/2 pans in my Altoid tin; the same size as the tin you are showing. I do this by using a credit card that I place double stick tape on. It serves as my top rows (12). I cut a notch in the corner of the card so I can easily take it out. In the top of the inside of the Altoid tin, I place a cooler chart, which I divide into top and bottom paints and cover with acetate plastic..
Thanks, Steve. I loved this video. I have a new palette that I have been holding on to and wanting to use for just this purpose--favorite colors that will mix together and do lots of different things. It has 18 spaces. I have many of the colors you have in your palette. I am going to take note of those and see what I come up with. I also will take trips around the palettes like you suggested! Great lesson, as usual!
Just bought my first palette. This was very helpful. Thank you.
You inspired me to get some m graham colors. I’m so excited to use them!
Absolutely had to comment on this excellent video:). Just love the colors and also, your input and information on them! I can envision these making some beautiful landscapes! Thank you so much for sharing your tips and experience. Very much appreciated as it saves us from wasted expense and time:). Kudos!
always love your color choices!!!:)
Thank you for yet another great video Steve. This is so informative. I love your videos and learn so much from you.🙏🏻😀
ohhh this was so good! great to see the subtle differences in brands. I've just been working on mixing colors--oh wow, what a science that is!
Thanks Steve, that was really interesting. Like the idea of taking a trip around my pallet(s) 🙂
Wow, wow, wow, I loved this. The pigment choices explained for what they do for you. The bit of mixing 😲. Yes, I could watch that for 2 hours 😁. I am educated and inspired to further educate myself on what works for me.
Thank you so much, Steve. I found the color swatch stamp items that you showed in your video a couple of months back. What a time saver they will be. Can't wait for them to arrive. Thanks
Thanks for sharing. These are some very lovely colors. I did a color mix chart a few weeks ago when I received a 12 color set of Holbein from my daughter. I have only glanced at it a couple of times and really hasn't been very useful. But at least it was very tedious. Won't do that again. Haaahaaa! That being said though, since I am a new water colorist it was an eye opener to see what can be mixed and still get a nice clean appealing color. It was a learning experience but only a one time deal.
Color charts are useful for beginners. Good practice for making incremental mixes but like you it just feels tedious and I never refer to them later. Would rather mix on the fly. Thats why its important to be able to mix without thinking.
Super informative Steve! Thanks for sharing! Yes, I tried your trip around the palette method and I agree, it does help me understand better how each color mixes together! Much for fun for me. :D
extremely inforative info. I will be watching this one over and over. The trip around the world method is one I thought was most logical.
I was trying to figure out what was on your shirt....D'oh!! Millennium Falcon. I'm a huge Star Wars Nerd can't believe I didn't' see it right away
Thanks Steve, great vid. As usual.
Wow, this really gave me an ah ha moment of understanding. Mixing colors is difficult for me......but for some reason this just clicked. As always, Thank you!
Loved your approach. I like how you replaced Ultramarine, I have been looking for alternatives for a while now but can't risk going without it yet. It is a great exercise to sift all the colors down to 12, I was forced to do this with Portable Painter and just labored on it for days. This video would've been so helpful :D
I experienced one of those "good hurts," well twice actually - laughing hurts so bad right now and I should have known better than to watch you because there's always that chance ... but I just had to watch anyway. Thanks for the side by side view of Transparent Red Iron Oxide and Quin Rust! I could see the difference very well with your camera. TRIO is definitely more earthy. I found your reasons for the "life altering, game changing" color palette very interesting. I will keep my fingers crossed for a landscape painting demo, especially one showcasing that blue violet. On a side note, the end verse is so profound - yet, I was not familiar with it. Neat.
VERY helpful, THANKS!
I think basic landscaping colors go across just about all landscapes. The proportions are different. For instance, I live in the desert southwest. Lots of earth tones, mostly reds, oranges, pinks, some gold, and what I could call “flesh“ tones. There is some green, and a lot of the shadows have blues and violets. Some gray, but you would be surprised at the amount of violet you see in the shadows of the red rocks here. Love this video!
Thank you Steve. This is very interesting and informative 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Great information on palette selections. I enjoy watching how you mix and explain what and why. About the small silver palette, couldn't find it, can you tell me where to find it. Looks like a great small travel selection. Again, thank you for your time and effort and helping us learn more about this art.
Hi, Steve! I just watched this video for the second time! I caught some more points that I missed the first go round. It is so great to be able to have another look at your videos. I am interested that you chose Moonglow over Payne's Grey for your shadow color. I use both, and I don't think I can do without either one. You introduced me to MG Payne's Grey years ago, and I use it over DS. It is the one that I always buy, even though I mostly use DS. I am still thinking about my new 18 color palette that I am organizing for painting landscapes and, of course, birds, both marsh and backyard birds. If you have any other suggestions, I would love them. I love DS Pyrol Red for woodpeckers and I love Raw Sienna and Buff Titanium.
Amazing video. This is a great idea starter. Good to know I already have a few of these. Got the primatek sampler a couple weeks ago and thought 🤦♀️!! The perylene maroon I also have. I’m getting more courageous and informed every day. You are so insightful and know how to teach this. Thanks!!
I just bought your 10 color set and I can’t freakin wait to get my hands on it❤️🔥🥇🥰
Yay, combined pallet. I have an M Graham/ Turner pallet. Still trying to figure out my colors. I'm very basic. A warm and cool of each and some earth tones. M Graham sure spoils me though. So easy to pick up.Lol. 😉
I absolutely adore the DS Apatite green too. And their Mayan blue! The W&N viridian is PG18 and is a fine granular. The W&N tere verte yellow shade (PG23) is a lovely soft mossy green. Try the DS roasted French ochre. Bet you’ll find it nice for portraits. It’s PR102.
You know i love mixing colors soooo much but.....i also love love having tooooo many even if i dont use them, i just love a beautiful full pallette.....i think i may just be an art supply junkie
What an odd /cute range of colours. Its like rotating the dial that looks for the usual key colours. A lot of pigments that are new to me but first glance it looks like you can produce a lot of good compliment greys from that collection. Like your thinking.
I can indeed.
@@mindofwatercolor Almost seems like a good starter pallet. Tough love. Learn to mix.
Love the Psalm at the end.. I must travel around my palette this week. I know I'll learn a lot... ty for this, and may God Bless
DS Moonglow has become my faaaaavourite colour :)
Yes this helped me to understand a pallet better. So if I want to paint the face of a white horse with a smokey background then I would make my pallet accordingly? Like put some off white and light greys in my pallet or would I use the white of the paper as my white? I'm going to draw it in grafite first. I have my white gel pen also. I'll probably have to paint this several times before I get it halfway decent looking. Lol. Thanks for the ideas. I think the moon glow would be good for this type of painting also. Thank you for sharing. 😎
Yes white of the paper is usually your lightest values.
Green Apatite Genuine is my favorite DS green. I'm also partial to Undersea and Cascade for effects. Oh, wait, I lied. Also Perylene Green. All of the colors!! 💚
Barbra Loveless oh, I agree Barbara!! I too love the primateks with green apatite genuine being my favorite also!! I just ordered perylene green. I have it in schmincke but not Daniel Smith.
Yes green apatite is my only green in the palette because you can't get that weird and granulating tonal and hue variations mixing any given set colors. Is an amazing pigment.
The serpentine genuine, too!
Well done. I read the description...did you provide an exact list of your pallet colors? Or do I have to watch it again and take notes?
Listed in the description
Thank you. I understand now. I will be attempting to replicate your pallet because I have a few sets and I am learning quickly what hues work for me and what don’t. I like landscapes too so the goal is realistic nature colors instead of baby nursery colors. Thank you for all your work.
I use cobalt deep by winser newton as a "replacement" or substitute for ultramarine. It granulated and almost a exact match in hue. It's just nice to NOT have the same old ultramarine.
That Daniel Smith Amethyst Genuine is so absolutely gorgeous! It was/is one of my favorites from the 234 dot card I've been playing around with.
YES! So nice!
Thank you, Steve. This was very helpful and informative.I like trying new colors and I've noticed you using the Apatite Genuine numerous times and wanted to know more about it. I bought a Forrest Green sometime ago from Cheap Joe's and never used it until recently. It is a mix of Chromium Oxide Green (PG17) and Natural Iron Oxide (PBr7). So, even tho its a convenience color, and it's slightly opaque, it granulates beautifully. I might use the Apatite Genuine in it's place, since from looking at your video, they look similar in color. Loved the video.
Although the Chromium Oxide sounds like a cool green too from the pigment description.
Steve, what about a mixing chart to also practice painting gradients?
Yup, practice is practice!
I only use six M Graham colours, including Quinacrodine Rust to mix all of my colours and since I bought them, the Quinacridone Rust is the colour that I'm going to have to replace first. I must admit I have been using SAA Burnt Sienna recently but mainly stick to my M Graham colours. Great video Steve. Oh and I hate golf to.
Very helpful thank you
My favorite mixed pallet that I made up is the Daniel Smith Intro set, and the QoR high chroma set. i get all the mixing my heart can take without missing out on the brights, and I get to keep quite a bit of the granulation. The paints mixed really have some interesting results and I love, love, love it!
So Qor and DS work together? I thought QOR didn't play well with others lol. I just got their quin deep gold and it is so beautiful.
Mixes with any brand color just fine.
@@jaimeanderson9238 I have never had a problem with them working together, as a matter of fact the QoR Trans. Pyrrol Orange, and D.S Quin. Rose.. omgoodness.. it is absolutely beautiful.. Only "real" issue (quoted because its not a problem for everyone, myself included) is that with the 2 sets that I use. The QoR Cobalt teal, has a tendency to separate, like if you mix QoR Cobalt teal and any of the other colors in the QoR (and a few of the D.S.) set you will get some pretty obvious color separation (which is rather pretty with the cobalt teal and the Trans. P. O. mentioned earlier, looks kind of like oxidized rust) Other than that I have had no problems at all.
That's good to know, thank you so much!
@@jaimeanderson9238 Np!
Thank you!
I love your "trip around the pallet" and I've never done a mixing chart, but for being just 15 months into watercolor and having a terrible memory which technique would you recommend to remember what your colors do when mixed? Thanks as always for videos with such great content! You da' best!!
Linda Smith I personally would get a little book, either divide with little different coloured post it notes so you can easily turn to each different brand, then write down in their what happens when you mix this with that etc, then you always have it and can easily turn to that brand and look it up 😀
Thanks for sharing.
This was an interesting video for me. Recently I have come to find that perylene maroon and indanthrone blue are really, really useful colors for figure painting. My question is how long it takes for the M. Graham paints to harden so that you can use them in a little watercolor palette like that. I have a 12-color palette that I will be filling soon, for our upcoming summer in Lake Lure. I haven’t used M.Graham paints because of how soft and sticky I have heard they are and even though I mostly work inside, I know there is enough to see around where we will be that I thought it would be better to get a small, useful palette. I too, find too many colors a bit confusing, but since I am planning to carry a smaller palette, I don’t want the paints to run into each other!
In regards to how fast M. Graham paints dry, I think it depends how humid it is where you live. Where I am in the Midwest, mine dries in a few hours to overnight depending how much I want to risk it. However when I was in Cancun, it took several days to dry so I don't recommend them if you travel or live somewhere humid...I still love my M. Graham paints though, just use them mostly at home. Hope that helps!
I let mine air dry for several days before shutting up the palette. They stay a little sticky but not really soft if you let them thoroughly dry.
To add to what @E Huey said, it depends on the climate AND on the color/pigment. I live in the Seattle area where we have dry summers and damp winters and M Graham colors can take weeks or more to dry enough for a travel palette, but most colors are fine after that. Some colors like Cerulean and Nickel Azo Yellow work great in my travel palette, but some never really behave (for example, Indian Yellow leaks on me no matter what, so I mixed it with DS Hansa Yellow Med PY97 to make more of a New Gamboge color and it's now a stable staple in my urban sketching palette). I would suggest filling a pan only halfway, leave enough room for a little movement when humid and don't leave in the sun if possible until you've tested it for awhile.
Thank you for sharing this. I have a couple of travel palettes to put together and I want one for landscape and one for floral. I do have a question. My M Graham turquoise is much darker and much more blue than your swatch but it seems to match my DS Phthalo Turquoise. Has M Graham changed the formulation do you think?
Mine is an older tube.
Not to my knowledge. Its just a mix of PB15:3 and PG7
Adventurous art supplies, I really want to see you fill and use that one. The thinness appeals but wondering if the paint will spread and how much you get in it is it a one painting palette.
Oh no, a little watercolor goes quite a long ways actually. If the kit is small the paintings will be too. You wouldn’t use this palette for larger studio paintings obviously. These pans hold plenty enough for quite a bit of sketching.
@@mindofwatercolor Thanks for the details Steve. Outdoors it is usually 5x7 (A5) occasionally A4. Found them on ETSY £3.60 but $11.5 delivery. Hope to be in USA soon and will try and get it then give it a go.
Thank you for this. I can't think of a video you do that hasn't been useful. What do your lightfastness cross-outs mean for the Maimeri Blu Magenta?
Nothing. I was trying to decide how to use the swatch card stars and started by crossing how many stars the rating was, but not ever brand uses the same rating system. I just decided to write Exc. VG or G. I don't really own any colors that aren't Exc. or VG
2 things - if I wanted to add a cool yellow to this pallet, what would you recommend? Also, would you please show us some more of the mixes that you can achieve? Thank you.
Hansa, Lemon or Azo yellow depending on brand the names may vary.
as you do landscapes, did you ever tried schmincke hoaradams transparent orange? I love that colour (although I rarely use it as beginner). it is so transparent and intense at the same time. and glazes across a landscape section is so effective. I wonder, how you would like it
and it mixed beautifully with phtalogreen e.g.
Not that I recall.
@@mindofwatercolor if you ever get the opportunity to try it, try it. there must be a very close one to this by Daniel Smith. but as I know, they are similar, I will stick to Schminckes - for this tone at least.
Those Primateks look really intriguing. I recently started trying to dip my toe into more artist grade ones, but since I'm German and I really wanted to get more local brands, something that doesn't have to be halfway around the world, I started out with Schmincke's (also those are like half the price of say Daniel Smith colours ^^') The Primateks look unique enough to justify treating myself to some of them in the future. I like the idea of using the actual jewel stone pigments :3
Was wondering if you have compared the maimeriblu perm violet blue with PV 23 from DS or mg?
Thanks for this helpful information. Are your color swatch cards available to purchase? Please advise.
It’s a stamp. See the link in the description.
I agree about the DS Viridian green. I have another question: I know that you use quite a bit of M.Graham paints which I believe are honey based, as is the Sennelier brand. I am still working on building my favorite pallet. Have you compared the M. Graham with the Sennelier? If yes , you obviously bought M.Graham instead of the Sennelier and I was wondering why. I also have a set of Mission Gold, another honey based paint, which I am pretty happy with, but in future wonder which way to go. Thank you so much for your help and teaching!
I only have Sennelier pans. They are fine but I prefer M. Graham due to intensity, price value and local availability.
I shouldn’t take a drink of my sprite on your intro. I just about choked laughing. Okay on to the what and why. I love these videos!!
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Very interesting! I’m trying to select my more used colors to make my own limited palette and this helps to focus in what’s important.
Could you put the link to the card size palette shown in the video? Thank you!
www.etsy.com/listing/231522765/watercolor-palette-travel-paint-with?ref=shop_home_active_11&frs=1
Expeditionary Art first developed and perfected this type of palette and has lots of pan size options: expeditionaryart.com/shop/art-toolkit/#the-pocket-palette
Hi Steve, I learn a lot from your work...so thanks! One question though about your new 12 color palette has to do with having only one alternative for yellow. Can that be enough in terms of a warm and cool choice?
Randy
For me and for landscape? Absolutely. And, as I mentioned in the video, it sits close enough to a cool yellow to mix well both ways. It makes a nice orange as well as gorgeous greens.
I love the feel of the M Graham paints in the palette, But it is really different from the Daniel Smith paints. Does this difference cause you any problems or frustrations when mixing? Which brand do you use as the base for mixing? For example do you mix DS into a glob of MG paint or do you go the other way? Is there really any difference?
Quite the opposite. Its why M. Graham is my favorite paint. And it mixes fine with other paints. I recommend you only mix paints on the palette with watery washes not as paste out of the tube.
Great video thanks. Just a question, I picked up some m Graham and it seems to not harden in my pans and stays to soft. Do you have problems with it oozing out when you travel? I've never had this problem with my Denial Smith paints they always harden.
I don't have a problem with M. Graham oozing but I know some people do. M. Graham is a honey based paint (Daniel Smith is not), so it retains more moisture. The trick is, after you squeeze it out onto the palette, let it air dry in the open for at least a week. It will become firm like a wad of gum. It will stay sticky from the honey but it usually doesn't run after that. After a painting session leave it out to dry overnight at least.
@@mindofwatercolor thank you I will do that. I am pleased with the colors I have so I'm happy to get this tip.
Please do a review of MaimeriBlu! I am very interested in your observations of working with this particular brand.
Great palette selection, I really eant to try some of those M. Graham colors that I haven't, they're appealing to me the more and more I see from them. Question: How did you do for your paints not to bead on your metal palette? I know M graham's doesn't bead that much, however Daniel Smith does and it gets worse with some colors, but I see the paint beautifully pooled in the mixing area, how did you do it?
A palette eventually breaks in after use. To hurry it along you can use a mild abrasive like toothpaste or metal polish to clean the surface with.
Hi, where do you get those little pre-printed colour test cards - they look really excellent
Its a stamp. The link is in the video description. You just cut watercolor paper to trading card size and stamps them with a waterproof ink.
Thank you
What does one use “neutral tint” for?
Neutralizing or darkening and graying colors. Deepens and makes them less intense.
May not be so, but on my computer screen, your MB Perm. Violet Bluish looks close to M. Graham's Ultramarine Violet Deep. So hard to choose - so many great colours. I also love MG's quin rust.
Perm. Violet is a little bluer not much. A stronger pigment too than Ultramarine Violet which rewets kind of weak.
Okay first off I'd be fine with the two hour show me what all they do with each other! Okay here's me, no clue what I'm doing, but I want to learn. Very limited fixed income but I don't want to spend money on cheap stuff just to have to get good stuff later or get frustrated cuz the cheap stuff doesn't look good. Questions. First what made you throw over the red iron oxide? I saw another video for you just love that and I fell stupid in love with it. Does it have to do with out mixes with others? I'm pretty sure you said that was granulating and I love granulation. I feel like I'll do a lot of the same type of stuff you do, Landscapes, little mountains here and there, sunsets. I do like this palette a lot but I'll need to start out basically with primaries and mixing while I save for more colors you know if a couple each month or something. What three would you suggest starting with from this palette? My whole world pretty much is purple, but I am with you the first time I saw that apatite green, again stupid in love with it. I watched videos from all kinds of people with all kinds of colors and this one, except for that magenta I can't stand pink, really speaks to me. That said, does that one do great stuff with mixing with others or did you just want something pink? LOL do I get the prize for the longest comment? 🤣
Yes, I still love red iron oxide. This is just a different palette, not a replacement. I use a number of different palettes. All slightly different. Don't over think colors use what you love.
Thanks
Hi Steve, Don't want to be a pest, so my apologies if I am. Just Ordering paints off of Amazon and discovered there are 2 or 3 different shades of, Apatite Green Genuine - Daniel Smith, listed and I am not quite sure which shade you used in your palette and the video. Do you remember? Thanks!
Hmm. I only know of the one by that name.
Where do you get the swatch cards? Or did you make them? Thanks.
Michael P it’s a stamp applied to watercolor paper that’s been cut to trading card size. See the description for a link.
Duh, I looked for a link but didn't see it initially. I hate when I do stuff like that.Thanks.
What is the brownish premetex? Am going to try this but try to use something I have besides mymerriblue. I have more artist grade paints than I will ever be able to put a dent into before I can no longer paint.
Piemontite Genuine. Its a very reddish violet brown.
I have that ...it looks so different here.
If anyone is interested in comparing or trying M. Graham colors on the cheap I got a dot sample pallete on Etsy. I think she does 12 colors in a mini pallete wheel. I went with the 8 original colors you featured and she was willing to do doubles of the colors I picked to fill the wheel. The dots are generous. Enough for a few small paintings. The good news is my cheaper colors were comparable to M. Graham so now I have a travel pallete. Lol
Also please stop featuring awesome stuff I want. Lol
Why did you not want Ultramarine Blue in this palette? (Just wondering)
No specific reason. Just wanted an alternative choice and something deep.
Thank you, again, Steve. One question: what is your experience of the uniqueness of the Maimeri Blu's Permanent Violet Blueish verses the M Graham's Dioxazine Purple? I note that they have the same pigment, though they may behave differently. M Graham's is the only one I've tried, and while it's my favorite violet color, it is a very strong, heavily pigmented color, similar to their Anthraquinone Blue in intensity.
M. Graham is a little more powerful, as with many of their colors but I really like the Maimeri Blue for its clean bright look.
You shouldn’t get rid of the mini palette!!! First: it is too cute 😊! Second: place it in your car or your bag that you carry everywhere. There will be a time when you will be really thankful to have some color (and a waterbrush) for using an unexpected “waiting time” to paint. Well, I do carry a mini like yours everywhere. Always. And I really appreciate it. 😊👍🏻
Agree. Its still got paint in it after all so I'll never throw it out.
Green Apatite is my favorite green.
amazing as usual. I might try these colours one day, but usually I limit my palette while planning out my painting, anyone else?