Cool video, almost the exact log truck rigging we use here in western Alberta Canada. Most of the loads here are shorter, but the truck has a 14' bunk and an 11' on the trailer. Same Wagner stacker's we have at the mill here.
This machine is made in USA I used to drive them but they were set up for lifting overseas containers The thing that was hard to get used to is the main lifting boom is right in the way of your site so you have to keep swaying you body back and forth on the seat to see where you are going.
Okay, so huge machine, absolutely enormous. But when something is that slow, it kind of has to take big loads at a time to not stop the workflow completely. Also probs to the truck driver for reversing the trailer in between that stack of stems like nobody's business.
At the Sierra Pacific Mill in Quincy,Ca, they still run 2 or 3 LeTourneaus 24/7. All electric drive, gear driven steer, lift, tilt, with hydraulic grab! Slow, but HUGE! They had a new Cat loader outfitted with a clamp, it couldn't do anything near what the LeTourneaus could.
The thing picked up those logs with ridiculous ease. I also noticed that the logs go out a long ways. Here in the states they aren't allowed to be that long. I know things are different in New Zealand but do you guys have to have a special loading document which states you can transport logs that long as long as they don't hit the roads?
The Georgia Pacific Lumber Facilities are the only ones that i know of that uses them to unload trucks and i live in Virginia. Smurfit -Stone uses cranes which can take along time expecially when one (which they always do) breaks down.
comments about this guy working too slow should be deleted..i was a logger for nearly 2 decades what you are watching is not a slow operator he is smooth...lifting weight like that takes precise timing and balance..well done operator
@HelloRenauldo The L180 high lift is a really cool machine too =D. Its more unique than the regular 180's. I guess i dont really know where to start asking you questions about it, but you seem to not like it quite so much. How come? Would you prefer to run a wagner? They do seem like more complex machines to run since like you said they can lift bigger loads and their configuration is much different. Also, do you like working moving timber around more than earth? It seems more challenging
Its an old letourneau the mill in dinuba,ca had one in the 70s when i was young. my dad owned a 68 mack and my grand dad drove it. they hauled logs to dinuba alot back then.
They're called a Wagner L120. Built for taking off an entire load of wood off a truck at once instead of pissing around with a log loader taking them off 2 or 3 at a time. The reason it's so slow is because the operator isn't too experienced. We use them all the time here in canada and they work great.
yes these trucks are called stems trucks often weighing 100-120 tonnes,these are north island trucks running on private roads used by various logg trucks,the yellow machine is a wagner log loader can lift 85tonnes in a hit the truck is a tridrive kwhoppa with an extendable pole jinker similar set up to the canadians,by carting the whole length trees saves putting in skid sites all over the place,makes processing easier keeping the gear central etc cheers
truck driver is tipiwai and he's a good operator location is kaingaroa forest central north island of nz driver of wagner is kunikuni and just learning to operate but wagner is also slow as when hydraulic pump blew it was replaced with a cheaper weaker unit that will only lift 65 tonnes safely now not the 75 it was designed for
@blackelk7373 Oh surley is i have been driving excavetors and wheel loaders for quite som time now and the rush quiets down pretty fast . But its really intresting to se the difrence betwen the countrys i know its diffrent types of logs and diffrent types of quality but still its pretty amazing would love to take a trip to the us some time to watch it in rela life
@HelloRenauldo Sorry about that comment, i just flew off the handle a bit too much. U caught me and my lack of experience with operating these specific machines. When i was talking about the part with what making the machine had to do with the video, i was assuming that the other people commenting on here would think that as machines get bigger, that automatically means they get faster too. I also thought that with such a big machine lifting such a heavy load, it wouldn't be trying to set the
@Kakihara1979 I would love to go operate equipment somewhere else. Ive always read about Sweden and Denmark. History of Vikings hunting walrus like they do here in Alaska. What kind of loaders and excavators have you operated? For dirt work we mostly use Cat, Volvo, John Deere, New Holland and Kamatsu.
It takes a long time to set the machine in the right position for unloading. In that time you've unloaded 2 trucks with a smaller, more flexibele machine like an excavator with claw I think.
Amazing looking log-grappling tractor & 4 axled tractor-truck,never seen anything like these 2 b4,LeTourneau & Mack respectivly didja say?Truly like some Transformers movie vehicle.The LTn tractor certainly as U said was from the 70s indeed,the engine of that yester era seemed so under-powered or under-capacity inside suc a behemoth,whining,straining & making too slow progress forward.Guess the operator has had to have lots of patience w/ it inching along.
Not all forestry is like this in New Zealand.Most parts are similar to European operations with small skids and truck and trailers upto 30 tonnes legal payload.This is Kaingaroa Forest,largest man made forest in Southern Hemisphere and thats meant to be the largest Wagner in the Souhern Hemisphere lifting around 65 tonnes max.The log is scanned into the proccessing plant and supposedly the best cuts are obtained from the 'stems'
@blackelk7373 Ohh im not one to argue its just the first glans of the machine im swedish and we have short logg handling so i dont know diddely squat about american log handling . But i have to save thath thath is one ipresiv peace of equipment . I would love to trie and drive som time really impressive =) Pardon my bad spelling =)
1.20 looks like a vampire going in for the kill, i am actually kinda confused, if the front support for the logs turn with the head of the truck, how does it go around corners without crushing the logs? :- /
@Kakihara1979 Considering the time it took to load the truck, the weight of the trees, and the delicacy which is needed to not damage the truck or trailer, not slow at all. Infact this piece of equipment has speed up this process ten fold.
@MotoScootMech No biggie man. Id just say type in "Wagner L90" in the search bar and watch some of the other videos with other guys operating the machine, No its not the fastest machine and to be honest, the high lift stacker is faster, but these are the ones that pick up the heavy loads. We actually traded one of the older L90s we have for an L120. same machine, it just lifts a bigger load. Hopefully from the time that video was made, this guy has gained a little more experience with it
Da*n, that's the slowest unloader I ever saw? Btw, why is it oversized? Looks like it could take twice that load. Are there trucks carrying loads that big?
I too agree this does not look like 75 tons. We use a machine like this one to move steel slabs. Machine grabs onto the slab with a magnet. Loader looks so unwieldy.
Northern BC must have very many fast and dangerous workers then :) Easy does it. Safe, Slow, Satisfying. I would hire him asap, for an example of a safe worker.
that thing is pretty slow the mill our wood go's to has a few of these all differnt styles they baught them 30 years ago but they move alot quiker than this one maybe just operater diffence
I used to haul logs in NZ when i was 19 years old. Trees must be heavier now, as i figure it is only about 25 tons of logs there! Piss poor planning of the yard , making all those turns! Need to fire the manager there!
@blackelk7373 Well its pretty diffrent on all the diggers 4 exampel up to about 45 tons all have the rotary tilt its pretty tricky to drive but it makes the maching extremly agil . And on the wheel loaders all have inter changebal buckets so u can put forks on and stuff like thath and on the sawmills there is shortlog handling and its pretty diffrent to =). I prefer the ljungby wheel loaders they are whath i think the best on the market but its just my opinion =) . Excavators i drive komatsu
This is taken in new zealand as a matter of fact to be precise it was taken at the webb log yard in kaingaroa where all the long stem trucks( like the won you see) get's unloaded by the way that wagner would be getting long in the tooth it was there when i was working in the bush carting log's for boogle's 10 years ago far out..... lol
Either the loader has got really poor steering lock or the power steering has failed. It needed a few goes lining up for the load!!! The truck would have been quicker manouvering to the loader. Great machine otherwise.
i have to say if that is 75 ton of logs man they must have lead in them sorry may be 30 ton but not 75 sorry any chance of asking the log company how many ton there is on the truck be interesting the exact tonnage as it is a or some loader good video thnks
@MotoScootMech What does this video have to do with making the machine? Its a Wagner L90. I work at the local paper mill here where I live and there are 2 of these machines and 2 high lift stackers. The guy here has the throttle at WOT and is babying the machine. So yes he is definitely slow. Our operators here would have gone through 3 or 4 trucks by now. But in his defense, he may be new to the machine. But either way, that machine moves a lot faster than he is making it.
"next time Fred park the damn truck crossways!" that would save 90% of the time used to unload.
Cool video, almost the exact log truck rigging we use here in western Alberta Canada. Most of the loads here are shorter, but the truck has a 14' bunk and an 11' on the trailer. Same Wagner stacker's we have at the mill here.
This machine is made in USA
I used to drive them but they were set up for lifting overseas containers
The thing that was hard to get used to is the main lifting boom is right in the way
of your site so you have to keep swaying you body back and forth on the seat
to see where you are going.
Okay, so huge machine, absolutely enormous. But when something is that slow, it kind of has to take big loads at a time to not stop the workflow completely. Also probs to the truck driver for reversing the trailer in between that stack of stems like nobody's business.
At the Sierra Pacific Mill in Quincy,Ca, they still run 2 or 3 LeTourneaus 24/7. All electric drive, gear driven steer, lift, tilt, with hydraulic grab! Slow, but HUGE! They had a new Cat loader outfitted with a clamp, it couldn't do anything near what the LeTourneaus could.
That's an old Raygo or Mi-Jack. They have also used those for moving ocean cargo containers. It can probably lift 40 tonnes.
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wow that machine gots some fangs on it! look at the size of the hydraulics on there! pretty cool, thanks for sharing
Fun to watch one work, I drove one many years ago in Mississippi occasionally
I don't know if anyone noticed but that is one heavy-duty Kenworth there.
Check out the hub-reduction on the tri-drive rears. Shift some big weights.
Nice video. I can't understand why people think this system is slow. Ok it doesnt move very fast in operation but it does the whole job very fast.
Nice truck! dinuba ca had a LeTourneau like this one and all it done all day long was unload trucks and drop the logs and then the 988's decked them.
Here in Maine, they get two trucks unloaded in the time it takes this thing to just get into position! An exercise in inefficiency.
That thing is so powerful!!! 75 tons. damn. That's heavy
"Err boss, the logs are overhanging a bit.. Should I tie on a Hi-Viz vest?"
"She'll be right.."
The thing picked up those logs with ridiculous ease. I also noticed that the logs go out a long ways. Here in the states they aren't allowed to be that long. I know things are different in New Zealand but do you guys have to have a special loading document which states you can transport logs that long as long as they don't hit the roads?
the craw truck ,the front wheel look's COOl!
i dont know how to say it but i will sure rate it a '100000000/100'.
The Georgia Pacific Lumber Facilities are the only ones that i know of that uses them to unload trucks and i live in Virginia. Smurfit -Stone uses cranes which can take along time expecially when one (which they always do) breaks down.
how does that truck turn when its loaded cuz the back log forks are on the trailer and the front log forks are on the truck itself how does it turn
@tyeson85 They arent all the way againts the headache rack. Just looks like it from this angle
comments about this guy working too slow should be deleted..i was a logger for nearly 2 decades what you are watching is not a slow operator he is smooth...lifting weight like that takes precise timing and balance..well done operator
@HelloRenauldo The L180 high lift is a really cool machine too =D. Its more unique than the regular 180's. I guess i dont really know where to start asking you questions about it, but you seem to not like it quite so much. How come? Would you prefer to run a wagner? They do seem like more complex machines to run since like you said they can lift bigger loads and their configuration is much different. Also, do you like working moving timber around more than earth? It seems more challenging
Its an old letourneau the mill in dinuba,ca had one in the 70s when i was young. my dad owned a 68 mack and my grand dad drove it. they hauled logs to dinuba alot back then.
They're called a Wagner L120. Built for taking off an entire load of wood off a truck at once instead of pissing around with a log loader taking them off 2 or 3 at a time. The reason it's so slow is because the operator isn't too experienced. We use them all the time here in canada and they work great.
Seems like they're running the boom cylinders on the powersteering pump !! revving hard, and still so slow !!!
The fart at 1:06 had me rolling
yes these trucks are called stems trucks often weighing 100-120 tonnes,these are north island trucks running on private roads used by various logg trucks,the yellow machine is a wagner log loader can lift 85tonnes in a hit the truck is a tridrive kwhoppa with an extendable pole jinker similar set up to the canadians,by carting the whole length trees saves putting in skid sites all over the place,makes processing easier keeping the gear central etc cheers
pic of alberta rig i ran for 4 years/12 wide and 12 high on front/no wieght limits
Wagner (Raygo) L120 I believe, Built in new zeeland. I operate a L90 Here in Australia =) Pretty impressive machines.
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where is this? How much is your load weight limit?
@tyeson85 the mount of the front logs can turn - the "turnig point" is alined with the trailer axes
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that thing looks awesome with the jaws wide open
truck driver is tipiwai and he's a good operator location is kaingaroa forest central north island of nz driver of wagner is kunikuni and just learning to operate but wagner is also slow as when hydraulic pump blew it was replaced with a cheaper weaker unit that will only lift 65 tonnes safely now not the 75 it was designed for
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3:00 Cute little RC Truck lol
i have a question this is a three axles clark? with rediductions at wheel?
Kenworth C501 'Brute' tri drive - Australian designed model. A real workhorse!
In Canada we call `stems' logs, and the driver doesn't tke the binders off until the loader has the grapple securely around the load.
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@boardingpass04 whats a comma? Or maybe a breath in your case?
wow! is that the only one like that or were there more built?
Thanks for posting this. I never knew just how they removed the load/s.
Is this the drivers first time in the machine? how many 3 point turns does he need with acres of space to move around?
@blackelk7373
Oh surley is i have been driving excavetors and wheel loaders for quite som time now and the rush quiets down pretty fast .
But its really intresting to se the difrence betwen the countrys i know its diffrent types of logs and diffrent types of quality but still its pretty amazing would love to take a trip to the us some time to watch it in rela life
It's Canada?
Hauling in NZ .
ua-cam.com/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/v-deo.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
@HelloRenauldo Sorry about that comment, i just flew off the handle a bit too much. U caught me and my lack of experience with operating these specific machines. When i was talking about the part with what making the machine had to do with the video, i was assuming that the other people commenting on here would think that as machines get bigger, that automatically means they get faster too. I also thought that with such a big machine lifting such a heavy load, it wouldn't be trying to set the
thats one evil looking contraption
@Kakihara1979 I would love to go operate equipment somewhere else. Ive always read about Sweden and Denmark. History of Vikings hunting walrus like they do here in Alaska. What kind of loaders and excavators have you operated? For dirt work we mostly use Cat, Volvo, John Deere, New Holland and Kamatsu.
@Pianoguy32 It's a sustainable forest, the pine trees are specifically grown on a 25-30 year harvest cycle.
it wasn't till the thing actually got next to the truck that you realize how big it actually is.
I agree!
Can someone tell me specifically what that type of unloader is actually called?
Pretty awesome machine.
Thanks a million for this great clip
Maybe the truck should be the one doing the moving!
It takes a long time to set the machine in the right position for unloading. In that time you've unloaded 2 trucks with a smaller, more flexibele machine like an excavator with claw I think.
If u make something kinda like a container carrier why do u make slower than a moped and make it need a footballfield to turn 90 degrees?
three torque reduction axles ? i wat to know more about it thanks
Damn.. that truck looks like a toy in comparison to the other one =O
Amazing looking log-grappling tractor & 4 axled tractor-truck,never seen anything like these 2 b4,LeTourneau & Mack respectivly didja say?Truly like some Transformers movie vehicle.The LTn tractor certainly as U said was from the 70s indeed,the engine of that yester era seemed so under-powered or under-capacity inside suc a behemoth,whining,straining & making too slow progress forward.Guess the operator has had to have lots of patience w/ it inching along.
Hatthen
How many tons does the wood weight?
Not all forestry is like this in New Zealand.Most parts are similar to European operations with small skids and truck and trailers upto 30 tonnes legal payload.This is Kaingaroa Forest,largest man made forest in Southern Hemisphere and thats meant to be the largest Wagner in the Souhern Hemisphere lifting around 65 tonnes max.The log is scanned into the proccessing plant and supposedly the best cuts are obtained from the 'stems'
wea exactly in central north island is this?
Geeze it's like a hallowen machine... those claws are frekin HUGE
that loader definitely sounds like thats all it had,we run the same deal in canada maybe a little smaller
looked to me like the truck lined himself up wrong, must have been a half tank of diesel gone by the time the load was lifted
@blackelk7373 Ohh im not one to argue its just the first glans of the machine im swedish and we have short logg handling so i dont know diddely squat about american log handling .
But i have to save thath thath is one ipresiv peace of equipment .
I would love to trie and drive som time really impressive =)
Pardon my bad spelling =)
1.20 looks like a vampire going in for the kill, i am actually kinda confused, if the front support for the logs turn with the head of the truck, how does it go around corners without crushing the logs? :- /
@Kakihara1979 Considering the time it took to load the truck, the weight of the trees, and the delicacy which is needed to not damage the truck or trailer, not slow at all. Infact this piece of equipment has speed up this process ten fold.
That makes the truck look like a toy, and an easy job.
even after opposite day? im flattered ;)
@canvids1 its Wagner L120 log loader i think.
Optimus Prime would be proud!
how long are those tree lengths???
@MotoScootMech No biggie man. Id just say type in "Wagner L90" in the search bar and watch some of the other videos with other guys operating the machine, No its not the fastest machine and to be honest, the high lift stacker is faster, but these are the ones that pick up the heavy loads. We actually traded one of the older L90s we have for an L120. same machine, it just lifts a bigger load. Hopefully from the time that video was made, this guy has gained a little more experience with it
what license they hold?
that machine reminds me of them things of star trek troopers lo. great machine
Da*n, that's the slowest unloader I ever saw?
Btw, why is it oversized? Looks like it could take twice that load. Are there trucks carrying loads that big?
what's the sence of such a slow machine? Wouldn't it be easier to use an overhead crane?
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I too agree this does not look like 75 tons.
We use a machine like this one to move steel slabs. Machine grabs onto the slab with a magnet. Loader looks so unwieldy.
where is it?big unloadiing vehicle!
What is this Machine ?
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how many horsepower?
Northern BC must have very many fast and dangerous workers then :)
Easy does it. Safe, Slow, Satisfying.
I would hire him asap, for an example of a safe worker.
Are they not better of whith use of a big articulated wheel loader?
@bodders1029 are you a grammer freek to? or maybe a person who was picked on highschool in your case
what is that for a machine? name?
@tyeson85 Trailer axles are on a pivot
wow, that log picker upper really makes the log truck really small. great wideo
is that truck that small or does it just look like that 'cause that machine is freakin' big?
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that thing is pretty slow the mill our wood go's to has a few of these all differnt styles they baught them 30 years ago but they move alot quiker than this one maybe just operater diffence
Mad skills right there me thinks....
I used to haul logs in NZ when i was 19 years old.
Trees must be heavier now, as i figure it is only about 25 tons of logs there!
Piss poor planning of the yard , making all those turns! Need to fire the manager there!
@blackelk7373
Well its pretty diffrent on all the diggers 4 exampel up to about 45 tons all have the rotary tilt its pretty tricky to drive but it makes the maching extremly agil .
And on the wheel loaders all have inter changebal buckets so u can put forks on and stuff like thath and on the sawmills there is shortlog handling and its pretty diffrent to =).
I prefer the ljungby wheel loaders they are whath i think the best on the market but its just my opinion =) .
Excavators i drive komatsu
This is taken in new zealand as a matter of fact to be precise it was taken at the webb log yard in kaingaroa where all the long stem trucks( like the won you see) get's unloaded by the way that wagner would be getting long in the tooth it was there when i was working in the bush carting log's for boogle's 10 years ago far out..... lol
Either the loader has got really poor steering lock or the power steering has failed. It needed a few goes lining up for the load!!! The truck would have been quicker manouvering to the loader. Great machine otherwise.
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i have to say if that is 75 ton of logs man they must have lead in them sorry may be 30 ton but not 75 sorry any chance of asking the log company how many ton there is on the truck be interesting the exact tonnage as it is a or some loader good video thnks
That`s, what I want to my birthtday,
great machine, great toy, nice vid!!!
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@MotoScootMech What does this video have to do with making the machine? Its a Wagner L90. I work at the local paper mill here where I live and there are 2 of these machines and 2 high lift stackers. The guy here has the throttle at WOT and is babying the machine. So yes he is definitely slow. Our operators here would have gone through 3 or 4 trucks by now.
But in his defense, he may be new to the machine. But either way, that machine moves a lot faster than he is making it.
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Is that at Kinleth
how can the claw car see how he drive?
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