if you stick the support poles into the ground near base of tree where mulch is and tilt them outward, it looks like an upside down cone. Then you can mow up to base of tree while still having a pole network to support the netting
You'd need to bend the conduit much more which might require heat to give it some inbuilt curvature. I've been thinking of something similar and was considering hammering 4 pieces of reo into the ground - near the tree base but (as you mentioned) with an outward angle. Then attaching 4 pieces of metal pipe - was unsure how to do the top and was thinking of conduit or maybe 12mm irrigation pipe.
@@BikerAU yeah you don't have to bend it, just put it in the ground non vertically facing outward to begin with, carefully design the angles to your liking before you push it into ground. my setup worked great this year. mowing was easy. I tarped around the tree first wider than my poles so you move right over the tarp edge and don't have to weed wack or anything.
I'm going to do this. But wouldn't it be better if the two electrical conduit crossed each other forming an x at the top and a kind of dome? That way it wouldn't sag in the middle?
Neat little trick to help position the net from the ground. Use a 25mm ( 1" ) piece of dowel about 2 metres long with a tennis ball pierced on one end. An old broom handle works well. The tennis ball doesn't catch on the net. Makes it easy to pull over the tree. Cutting the tennis ball is the fun part.... not too difficult though.
Greetings from sunny Florida! The music seemed to make the netting easier??I loved it! I can't grow cherries here yours look delicious. Love your projects.
Thanks for sharing. We have 60kmh plus winds and have flattened the Vinidex tubing and now the netting is squashing the trees. Need to change the tubing. My posts are 12mm rebar. When I looked Bunnings sells pvc in 3m lengths and that may not be long enough
I just happened across your channel today and this is the one that came up. I was visiting my cousins in Tasmania for 3 months in 2012. It is a wonderful place to visit. I am from the United States. I just subscribed to your channel. I'm looking forward to following you.
Good netting style for birds. On the large island north of Tasmania! there are flying foxes and this is not a wildlife friendly netting option. The net needs to be a much smaller mesh size (legislated in Victoria September 2021).
Thanks for the informative video. I'm in Sydney so hope it works for possums and fruit bats as well as birds. BTW There's actually no harm in providing food for the birds and other wildlife, you just won't enjoy as much of the crop yourself.
That's nice, but my tree is 40 feet high and 25 feet wide full of fruits and branches coming down because they're heavy with fruits. I throw several pepsi cans up the tree tied on both ends of string to keep the birds away. The glossy pepsi cans with its huge red, round graphic scares the birds away. I laugh as I see them perched on top of the barn roof but unable to come to close to the tree.
What's to keep squirrels and rats from eating through the netting? They ate through my fiberglass mesh bags that were put around individual fruit last year and got all my persimmons and lemons.
Thank you sir. That was an informative episode, especially, as I was harvesting first batch of my tomatoes, I noticed a few holes. I will be installing a net in next 3 days, and I'll be using gray(electrical) PVC piping. You definitely gave me a great idea. Good job. I don't know your name, but I hope you don't mind me calling you Mr. Downunder, for now.
Have you tried adding bird baths on the outside of your garden, even if you just put water in platters set out for the birds. Keep the water fresh. Birds are in need of liquid, and will get it from pecking your tomatoes if it is super hot outside.
Hi, Dear, may I please ask what is the structure you use to surport the conduit? Would you please tell the name and size then I can buy it in bunnings. Thank you very much
Our problem with the birds is cherries and after the winter, they are so hungry for fruit, they go right after them. Our trees are about 12 feet tall and netting is very difficult. We have seen some orchards with a blanket of net over the entire acreage. The following fruit survives much better ( apricots, peaches and apples ).
What is the name of the netting you are using? I live in the US and have only seen the black plastic which does not drape like your netting. What is that netting made of?
Hi there! I have two Olive trees that I’m trying to net. One is planted in the ground and the other is in a pot. So that I can buy the right things from Bunnings are you able to breakdown what the names are of the things I’ll need? Thank you!
if you use tulle - the kind for weddings, then you can probably put it onto tree directly without worry about shoots piercing it since it is very finely woven. Then you won't need poles - of course then you lose pollenators so this would only work for a baby tree not in bloom or w/e
Bees need to pollinate the flowers, they cannot get thru tulle. Tulle is great for plants that do not need bees, like cabbages, anything in the brassica family. Or for on top once everything has been pollinated.
@@sn232 Well most of the year is not time for pollenation and if you are dealing with young trees pollenation is not an issue since you are focused on growth and not fruit yet.
Yes, looks good. However , it’s a smallish tree and isolated from other trees on level groundA full sized tree is a harder proposition Bigger ladder , more danger, maybe need to join nets
I want to put netting over my citrus trees. They are about 2.5m -3m high and about 2 m across. How do you work out what sizing is best? Looking at Bunnings they have so many!
So 3m up, 2m across and 3m down? 3+2+3=8. Minimum size 8m square. Probably get a 10m square net...maybe a little too large, but better that way than too small!
I have heard of using electrical conduit before but I have not been able to find it in the US in big box stores. They show me metal pipes that need to be forced bent into shapes by a tool at the store and come in 8 foot or more sizes. Can you tell me a little more about this conduit? I would like to use this in covering parts of my garden with netting. I appreciate any help you can give me.
It's really just a 20mm (3/4 inch) pvc pipe, so if you can't find it in the electrical section try the plumbing area - pvc water pipe would work fine, but is likely to be more expensive.
@@homesteading I tried using pvc pipe but I can't get it uniform when I bend it for arches. Is there any trick to getting them to bend to the same shape?
If you’re in Gippsland, Victoria, you should be able to purchase the amount you need if you try Browns Stockfeeds, Leongatha. They sell by the metre. You can also buy the correct shears for cutting the netting.
Lyndell Barnes thank you for the information, I’m in Texas (USA)though. 😊 I did go online and find just what I needed to cover my crops! I have a terrible time growing squash and pumpkins due to squash vine borers, so I think that if I can cover my plants with a mesh, it may just keep the moth off of my plants! 😊 Thank you again!
we have to deal with monkeys....and this looks too flimsy for their aggressive stealing capabilities.I never have trouble with birds eating all my fruit. I feed them birdseed and they very kindly then leave my fruit alone. They sometimes do eat the fruit right on the top when it's out of my reach even with a stick.! Birds are cool. If they are around you will never have bugs in your fruit.
Agreed 100%. We got blueberries, peaches, figs, cherries, loquat and after hundreds of dollars a year on fertilizers, water, mulch, etc... we lose everything to birds, squirls, rabbits and we don't even get 1 fruit and still had to buy. That hurts!
Yes, but in countries (like the U.S.) that allow GMOs & the use of all kinds of poisons in produce, we can't easily obtain fruit that tastes good, has actual nutrients in it, and isn't going to kill us someday...unless we grow it ourselves. Farmer's markets are still a good option (for now) but the stuff @ the grocery store is routinely spoiled or flavorless. Until we get a better govt, I'll have to fight the birds for our berries!
@@joaquinsuarez6090 I have one problem only: Crows, they eat everything you mentioned above, so I don't spend much money on fruit trees, just to keep them alive without chemicals
if you stick the support poles into the ground near base of tree where mulch is and tilt them outward, it looks like an upside down cone. Then you can mow up to base of tree while still having a pole network to support the netting
You'd need to bend the conduit much more which might require heat to give it some inbuilt curvature. I've been thinking of something similar and was considering hammering 4 pieces of reo into the ground - near the tree base but (as you mentioned) with an outward angle. Then attaching 4 pieces of metal pipe - was unsure how to do the top and was thinking of conduit or maybe 12mm irrigation pipe.
@@BikerAU you don't need anything across the top. Let the net just span the top it doesn't need any support
@@BikerAU I literally just put 3 poles in ground leaning outward and netted it and done
@@artbyrobot1 - great - i will try that - thanks
@@BikerAU yeah you don't have to bend it, just put it in the ground non vertically facing outward to begin with, carefully design the angles to your liking before you push it into ground. my setup worked great this year. mowing was easy. I tarped around the tree first wider than my poles so you move right over the tarp edge and don't have to weed wack or anything.
Brilliant! Thank you so much John.
Thank you so much. I live in Southwest Texas, our fruit trees are shorter than the ones shown in your video. Again, Thank you ! ❤
Great video. Thank you! I will be trying this in our orchard this Spring! 😊
Thank you for sharing. I will use your method for my 2 apple tress and berry bushes here in Royal Oak, Michigan. Happy gardening!
Great idea, perfect for small trees. Absolutely love it. Keep squirrels away too.
Great video John, thank you for sharing your netting ideas with us.
I'm going to do this. But wouldn't it be better if the two electrical conduit crossed each other forming an x at the top and a kind of dome? That way it wouldn't sag in the middle?
Some people do it that way...depends on the tree.
Love the set up for your fruit trees, I need to do this with my peaches, thank you for sharing
Really liked this idea to protect fruit trees. Thank you
Thanks, I find that useful advice. Have a nice day.
Thanks John simple solution to an annoying problem
Neat little trick to help position the net from the ground. Use a 25mm ( 1" ) piece of dowel about 2 metres long with a tennis ball pierced on one end. An old broom handle works well. The tennis ball doesn't catch on the net. Makes it easy to pull over the tree. Cutting the tennis ball is the fun part.... not too difficult though.
Thanks, sounds like a good idea!
Great idea :)
Great video thanks for sharing your tips. You've given me lots of good ideas.
Greetings from sunny Florida! The music seemed to make the netting easier??I loved it! I can't grow cherries here yours look delicious. Love your projects.
Very practical and attractive idea! Thanks for sharing! : )
Thanks for sharing. We have 60kmh plus winds and have flattened the Vinidex tubing and now the netting is squashing the trees. Need to change the tubing. My posts are 12mm rebar. When I looked Bunnings sells pvc in 3m lengths and that may not be long enough
You can buy pvc couplings and glue them together. That's what I did for my fish pond.
I like they way you did the nets
You gave me some great ideas. Thanks!
Looks great. Can you tell us what's the name of the net, either brand name or generic one? Thank you !!
I just happened across your channel today and this is the one that came up. I was visiting my cousins in Tasmania for 3 months in 2012. It is a wonderful place to visit. I am from the United States. I just subscribed to your channel. I'm looking forward to following you.
Welcome aboard!
Good netting style for birds. On the large island north of Tasmania! there are flying foxes and this is not a wildlife friendly netting option. The net needs to be a much smaller mesh size (legislated in Victoria September 2021).
What kind of netting are you using?
Great idea. Will give it a try. THANKS
Thanks for the informative video. I'm in Sydney so hope it works for possums and fruit bats as well as birds. BTW There's actually no harm in providing food for the birds and other wildlife, you just won't enjoy as much of the crop yourself.
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Brilliant! Well done!
That's nice, but my tree is 40 feet high and 25 feet wide full of fruits and branches coming down because they're heavy with fruits. I throw several pepsi cans up the tree tied on both ends of string to keep the birds away. The glossy pepsi cans with its huge red, round graphic scares the birds away. I laugh as I see them perched on top of the barn roof but unable to come to close to the tree.
I've heard of blank CDs hung onto fruit trees with fishing lines, they glint in the sunshine and scare away the birds ..
@@QueenlySweetpea We tried that, the birds used them as perches to eat our cherries...
Thank you for this info
What's to keep squirrels and rats from eating through the netting? They ate through my fiberglass mesh bags that were put around individual fruit last year and got all my persimmons and lemons.
Like the bluegrass music. Who are they playing. This in informative. My mandarins tree is quite big so doing a frame is very difficult.
Thank you for explaining this so well. You really helped me out 😀
Hi, where can I get such a good quality nylon net please?
I liked this, thanks good sir 👍🏽
What material is your netting? I can only find cheap plastic which doesn't drape very well
Thanks, That's a great solution.
Thanks . This is what I needed.
Thank you sir. That was an informative episode, especially, as I was harvesting first batch of my tomatoes, I noticed a few holes. I will be installing a net in next 3 days, and I'll be using gray(electrical) PVC piping. You definitely gave me a great idea. Good job. I don't know your name, but I hope you don't mind me calling you Mr. Downunder, for now.
Have you tried adding bird baths on the outside of your garden, even if you just put water in platters set out for the birds. Keep the water fresh. Birds are in need of liquid, and will get it from pecking your tomatoes if it is super hot outside.
We're do you purchase the net from
Hi, Dear, may I please ask what is the structure you use to surport the conduit? Would you please tell the name and size then I can buy it in bunnings. Thank you very much
Our problem with the birds is cherries and after the winter, they are so hungry for fruit, they go right after them. Our trees are about 12 feet tall and netting is very difficult. We have seen some orchards with a blanket of net over the entire acreage. The following fruit survives much better ( apricots, peaches and apples ).
where do you buy the net from?
Awesome video, 😀 loved the music.
What do you do about the pests? Thank you
What is the name of the netting you are using? I live in the US and have only seen the black plastic which does not drape like your netting. What is that netting made of?
Hi there!
I have two Olive trees that I’m trying to net. One is planted in the ground and the other is in a pot.
So that I can buy the right things from Bunnings are you able to breakdown what the names are of the things I’ll need?
Thank you!
Bird netting - correct size for trees. Electrical conduit - 20mm. Possibly star pickets to tie conduit to - depending on situation.
for apple and pear and persimmons: when is the proper time to net, so as not to impede growth and ripening? any special info about the net to use?
if you use tulle - the kind for weddings, then you can probably put it onto tree directly without worry about shoots piercing it since it is very finely woven. Then you won't need poles - of course then you lose pollenators so this would only work for a baby tree not in bloom or w/e
Bees need to pollinate the flowers, they cannot get thru tulle. Tulle is great for plants that do not need bees, like cabbages, anything in the brassica family. Or for on top once everything has been pollinated.
@@sn232 Well most of the year is not time for pollenation and if you are dealing with young trees pollenation is not an issue since you are focused on growth and not fruit yet.
@@artbyrobot1 Thank you for explaining that
You can remove the net once all the fruit has been harvested for the season.
Then all the pollinators will have access to new flowers that bloom.
@@windybeach2184 great point!
Thank you sir
My pear tree is too tall to net but I should cover my blackberries.
Do the galvanized pipe uprights ever fall over, or have you knocked them in a fair way into the ground?
I put them in far enough so they don't fall over. How far depends on the soil.
Thank you.
Yes, looks good. However , it’s a smallish tree and isolated from other trees on level groundA full sized tree is a harder proposition Bigger ladder , more danger, maybe need to join nets
What is the diameter of your galvanized pipe please?
1 inch
CHERRY TREE GROWING IN AREAS WHERE THE TEMPERATURE BELOW 20 DEGREE.
Can you provide a link for the net you used. I like how strong it is. The net I use, sticks to itself and is very frustrating.
I generally buy my nets from Bunnings.
Where did you get that net?
Bunnings
I want to put netting over my citrus trees. They are about 2.5m -3m high and about 2 m across. How do you work out what sizing is best? Looking at Bunnings they have so many!
So 3m up, 2m across and 3m down? 3+2+3=8. Minimum size 8m square. Probably get a 10m square net...maybe a little too large, but better that way than too small!
How does fear to wind?
Great! How did you do the overhead video shots, by the way?
Overhead shots are from a drone.
Or from the top of a building or helicopter or super tall ladder.
I have heard of using electrical conduit before but I have not been able to find it in the US in big box stores. They show me metal pipes that need to be forced bent into shapes by a tool at the store and come in 8 foot or more sizes. Can you tell me a little more about this conduit? I would like to use this in covering parts of my garden with netting. I appreciate any help you can give me.
It's really just a 20mm (3/4 inch) pvc pipe, so if you can't find it in the electrical section try the plumbing area - pvc water pipe would work fine, but is likely to be more expensive.
@@homesteading I tried using pvc pipe but I can't get it uniform when I bend it for arches. Is there any trick to getting them to bend to the same shape?
@@carolparrish194 Try laying it in the sun for a few hours. This will make the PVC more pliable.
@@carolparrish194 use a heat gun or hair drier. Also make it an X on top and secure both pipes with zip ties.
About how long is the PVC pipe you used?
4m lengths.
Your property is DREAMY!
Where can I but it ?????
what kind of net? any brand name? ty
Any bird net, readily available from any garden store and some hardware stores (ie Bunnings) here in Australia.
Where to buy this type of plastic please reply now
Where would you get a net like this one?
homesteader fifty w/ ricky & martha thank you!
If you’re in Gippsland, Victoria, you should be able to purchase the amount you need if you try Browns Stockfeeds, Leongatha.
They sell by the metre. You can also buy the correct shears for cutting the netting.
Lyndell Barnes thank you for the information, I’m in Texas (USA)though. 😊 I did go online and find just what I needed to cover my crops! I have a terrible time growing squash and pumpkins due to squash vine borers, so I think that if I can cover my plants with a mesh, it may just keep the moth off of my plants! 😊 Thank you again!
Bunnings in NSW Aus.
we have to deal with monkeys....and this looks too flimsy for their aggressive stealing capabilities.I never have trouble with birds eating all my fruit. I feed them birdseed and they very kindly then leave my fruit alone. They sometimes do eat the fruit right on the top when it's out of my reach even with a stick.! Birds are cool. If they are around you will never have bugs in your fruit.
20 times cheaper to buy fruits
Agreed 100%. We got blueberries, peaches, figs, cherries, loquat and after hundreds of dollars a year on fertilizers, water, mulch, etc... we lose everything to birds, squirls, rabbits and we don't even get 1 fruit and still had to buy. That hurts!
Yes, but in countries (like the U.S.) that allow GMOs & the use of all kinds of poisons in produce, we can't easily obtain fruit that tastes good, has actual nutrients in it, and isn't going to kill us someday...unless we grow it ourselves.
Farmer's markets are still a good option (for now) but the stuff @ the grocery store is routinely spoiled or flavorless. Until we get a better govt, I'll have to fight the birds for our berries!
@@joaquinsuarez6090
I have one problem only: Crows, they eat everything you mentioned above, so I don't spend much money on fruit trees, just to keep them alive without chemicals
I just use gun
Trees that size , with no intersecting branches from surroundings are easy to net. So not really helpful
Good luck with that method after tree grows bigger.