Rybakov Vertical Multiband HF Antenna
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2022
- I built a Rybakov HF Multiband Antenna for 40 through 10 meters and had some amazing results.
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For an in depth study of this antenna check out this video on Tim G5TM’s channel:
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I have a Rybakov at my QTH in South Africa. It works for me, I'm in a secure complex. Thanks for the demonstration Walt. 73
@@ZAR797 thanks for watching and commenting! 73, Walt
I built the Rybakov as described in the video and set it up in a park and worked very nicely... Thank you Walt for the video!!
How cool to pack a few things in a suitcase, fly halfway across the world, and setup a radio station! That NY contact on 10m was amazing. Have fun and stay safe!
Thank you my friend! Yes that New York contact actually surprised me, I couldn’t believe I got through the pileup!
Well, that’s another damn antenna I’m gonna build. Hi, hi !!
@@DaveW6OOD hahaha! At least it’s an easy one to build
Thank you for the shout out Walt and above all, great to see you making those contacts. On 10m you’ll have a ball! 73
Yes indeed, it’s an awesome antenna for 10 meters.
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES Just built one today and will take it to a park soon. It is interesting that the SWR values differ so much in @timg5tm941 and your experiments where the only difference was the amount of counterpoise wires (and of most likely different ground). I went for the 6x5m version. Let's see what it shows in my case. GD DX OMs!
Hi Walt thanks for the video. I built mine last week. The tip is approx 9m above the ground hanging in a tree with 6x 5m radials. Utterly blown away. I managed a QSO on 10W into Germany on 10m band (55 both ways) 9850km from my QTH. Happy new Year. Best 73 DE ZS6AKW.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! Happy New Year and 73, Walt.
Hey Walt, just build my first Rybakov 806 Vertical using a T140-43 with 10 turns of 18 gauge magnet wire, a BNC Female to Dual Banana Female Socket Binding Post, 26 foot vertical element, and 4 radials about 12ft each. I taped the radiating element to a 33 foot Spider Beam. Picked up contacts on 12, 15, 17, 20, and 40 meters all reporting 55 or better up and down the East coast and out to California from Michigan. The 4:1 match was perfect for my Xeigu G-90's internal tuner. You were spot on when you said this is a great antenna. I will be putting the Rybakov and my 40-10 meter EFHW up for winter field day. With a vertical and horizontal both performing so well I'm sure to have a lot of fun working stations all over the US and beyond.
Thanks for the videos you've been posting, I began my HF work prior to you tube and struggled with getting a good antenna in the air. You and all the others who put the time in to bring new ideas to the table sure make a difference to the Amateur Radio Community. Thanks for all you do, 73 AD8MP, David.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing and thanks so much for the kind words. All the best and 73, Walt
Awesome antenna and man, that G-90 continues to impress.
Hey Walt i cannot thank you enough buddy and of course Tim we had a terrible storm new year and it ripped my beam apart I have just built this thing and it takes 5 minutes to put up and less to take down it is in the middle of my small garden on a pedestal i use for a parasol in summer I will do a video for you this morning I worked the grey line on ft8 20m band and broken the record set by my beam 11869 miles into ZL man if im ever youre way a few beers are heading your way cheers Brian 2e0ilf
That’s awesome, thanks for sharing! All the best and 73 my friend
Used the Rybakov today at 3 parks. 9:1 with a 17.5 elevated counterpoint. Feed was about 6' off the ground. It really kicked butt !
Nice to work a new band with your amazing antenna Walt. Thanks to Tim G5TM for turning me on to your channel. 73 de Ady G6AD
Thanks for the great contact Ady!!!
Your video inspired my to build a Rybakov of my own, Walt, and it's a very worthy addition to my modest antenna farm. Thank you for your enthusiasm and great antenna ideas. Love my G90 as well. Hope to be able to work you one day from my Idaho QTH. 73, N7BWB
Thank you so much! looking forward to that contact!
I like this antenna. Lots or nice US and Canada QSO's on 10 watts. Top video.
Thanks! it is on of my favorite antennas.
Great vids,well done I always enjoy your vids. I'm going to try to make one this weekend.Stay safe an keep put out quality content , Jimmie
Thank you so much Jimmie! Good DX this weekend!!!
Got around to making one this morning, and it worked great. Might be my new favorite!
73 de KK1X
Awesome!!! it's a great antenna
Great video! I must admit it's the first of yours I've seen... new subscriber!
Thanks Erin! I’m just a guy that likes to experiment with different antennas and portable rigs and document it in a video. Thanks for subscribing! 73, Walt K4OGO
Great video Walt. I’m gonna do some hill topping with the G90 today. Crisp fall day in central Pennsylvania. 73!
Awesome! Good DX my friend!
Bought one as Pro Whip. Managed Japan using RTTY and the New York repeater on 10M in 2007-8. Good antennas for the price. What you need now is another pole and use the unun as a loop and you can also have fun using it that way.
I actually have another pole here with me and plan on building a Delta Loop with the unun
Quite an interesting presentation. Thanks for posting it. It reminded me of one I saw three years or so ago. See VE3BF’s 40 meter fishing pole antenna on YT. Very similar to the Rybakov except a 4:1 balun was used rather than an unun. Ps: first time I have seen a xiegu in action. Certainly not a KX3 but I like the display panel goodies.
Thanks for watching! I’ll take a look at the VE3BF video, thanks for sharing. 73
So coincidental Walt, after a 2 meter rag chew net here around Clayton NC, I got a call from k4sdv, after mentioning the trusdx on the net and he mentioned the Rybakov antenna. Then he said he had a qso with a guy in Hawaii that was qrp on the beach using a vertical with a counter poise dropped into the salt water that amplified his signal. I said that sounds like Walt k4gog, he was in Hawaii a while ago, he came back with, is he out of Virginia Beach? I said yep, that's him! I turned him on to your UA-cam channel. Hope to catch you on the air one day myself, ko4fud 73!
Thanks Cameron! it's a small world in ham radio. BTW, my grandparents were farmers near you and I spent all my summers on the farm growing up in Wilson County. I know your area well.
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Just getting into HF, so I copied your setup, the Xiegu g90 on the way and all the materials to copy your antenna builds, love your channel and thank you
Thank you so much! You will love that G90. 73, Walt
Can’t wait to play with it
WHOAMMM....this is how we roll, UW 💯👍 Great job on that Rybakov Antenna. Happy Sunday Evening 6 73 de YFUG 🙋♂
Thank you Uncle G!!! Happy Sunday Evening my friend!
Thanks for reviewing rybakov. Time to do one for expeditions. 73` SP3BOP / M3BOP
Thanks for watching! Hope to do that this year. 73, SP/K4OGO - K4OGO
Great video Walt. I didn’t know about this antenna, it’s a pretty good cheap solution for field operations .
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Yes and very easy to put together. Thanks and 73
Man this is really good idea. I may try putting one up in a tree at the QTH. It seems like you can play around with the number and length of the ground radials. Very cool!
Yes the ground radial lengths are really not important. Thanks for watching!
built one of these recently, though mine's a modified version. In the Dec. 2013 final edition of his Monitoring Times magazine, Bob Grove W8JHD mentiones what he called "best and cheapest shortwave receiving antenna you’ll ever need" which was 24' of electrical cord or speaker wire with 5' removed from one side. That's what I'm using for the radiator, so I call mine a Bobgrovakov. I only have room for 2 radials which are around 7m long facing roughly north-south. I'm RX only for the time being so I have no idea how or if this thing will radiate, but it works great for receiving. The other day on FT8 on 20m I got every continent except Antarctica.
That’s awesome, thanks for sharing. The Bobgrovakov hahaha I like that! 73 de K4OGO
I've limited space (a balcony) and keep trying different antennas but keep coming back to the ideal blend of compromise (and ease of build) Rybakov. May be a compromise but 40 to 10 with no coil tap twiddling is perfect.
Hi Walt finally did it I did this in my back garden awesome so pota tomorrow I go
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Nice video Walt! I’d like to use it on the travel. It’s highly educational and extremely well organized. I can’t show all of it, due to time… But, I’ll get the main elements in and give you credit as well as some good credit to Tim in the UK as well.
As always, God bless you and great DX Walt!
Larry
Absolutely Larry! Thank you my friend!
Wooow welcome in Poland!! Have fun and 73.
Dziękuję 73!!!
I made this yesterday with a 10m fibreglass pole and 25ft wire with the LDG 4:1 but got confused and used a Balun but worked great with an ATU LDG sorry i need a Unun insured but the Balun works very very good and 1 counterpose at 5m under the grass works brilliant I'm very impressed with it, the 40m band has lost the noise it had before, it's a lot better all 5 9 plus on this antenna, my EFHW must be bringing noise in for somewhere. Thanks De 2E1FUE.
Thanks for sharing that info Tom! 73
Amazing performance.
Thanks for watching!
Good video, and great job on the Rybakov. I’ve have great success with this antenna and the Upper and Out.
Out in the field, using information from Craig WB3GCK, easy to deploy for a inopportune “play radio”session.
Great stuff. 73 M7PBX.
Thank you! 73, Walt K4OGO
I use a 9:1, with 7.6m wire on a 10m pole. 40m not too good, but as you have stated, 15m to 10m are really good. Another great vid and hope to catch you on the band soon, 73
Thanks so much Gary! Hope to catch you on the bands!
Gotta try one of those 😊 Interesting video
Thanks for watching!
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES I do enjoy running verticals, the only thing that has kept me away from them is the manual tuning or them so frequently being monobanders 😉
Excellent, thanks for sharing.73.
Thanks for watching! 73, Walt K4OGO
Hey Walt, love your videos. I bet if you added some more radials, you could get the swr even lower.
Thanks! Yes if I was leaving this up permanently I would probably do that.
Thank you for info about an interesting simple multiband antenna, I would like to try it! I am from banned country and never heard of Rybakov antenna. I think that its Rus. name is a kind of marketing :) Similar antenna is known in R. as UA4PA vertical, but it uses more complicated coupler - a resonant oscillating circut.
Thanks for commenting and watching. I will research the UA4PA antenna.
The property here has some shortcomings that makes putting up decent antennas difficult at best. Small House, Small City Lot, No Trees, not even ONE. Single story home, but stand up attic so most of my antennas are dipoles in the attic, as in 6-20 meters. I have tried 30 and 40 and as long as I can get them working once I fold them around corners etc, they work but not great. Luckily I had a shorter painter's pole I was able to stick out the attic window and point it upwards just enough to get just enough height from the ground to the top of that pole. But no way to get a much bigger pole out that window so can have 80 meters as well. HOWEVER the 4:1 unun I used was from my original S9 vertical I bought years ago, and at that time I also bought their 80 meter loading coil. Would that work on this antenna? So I grabbed it and stuck it in the rest of the mish mosh, SWR on all bands 6-80 at less than 1.5:1, using an autotuner of course. 80m signals I'm hearing are nice and strong, sounds hopeful. Bands are not in good shape here, and hearing lots of people complaining about it, so I know it's not the antenna. Tomorrow will give it a shot and see if it's transmitting as good as it's receiving. If it is, I think I'll use the money I've been saving to buy a store built vertical to buy a bigger pole and run this antenna in the yard instead of in the middle of my driveway! I need to go buy groceries soon and hate the thought of taking the antenna down and putting back up just to buy groceries. Thank GOD I'm not married!!
Very interesting antenna. It would be interesting to see it with your braided ground into the salt sea. Well done, Walt.😁😁😁
Yes that will happen!!!
Hi my friend great video and a great antenna 73!!!
Thanks for watching my friend!
You can make this antenna 'point' by leaning it about 35 degrees off the vertical. I also use a beach umbrella 'screw' in the ground support to hold up my 10.1m fibreglass pole.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
I just bought the full assortment of LDG ununs and baluns from DX Engineering. Now I can make most any kind of antenna for POTA.
Awesome!!
Very interested in the name and/or model of the pole you are using. Have a G90 on order, and would love to try the antenna. 73 KY4VD
Very impressive, Walt! Such performance from a simple design! Have fun! DE AG4KN- John
Thanks John, it was a fun antenna! 73 my friend!
Hi Walt, you've given me an idea for a portable antenna to play with made from existing kit I have, going to do a variation of the theme to the Rybakov using my 17 foot telescopic whip into its ground anchor but still using a 4:1 unun and counterpoise wire's, might even put the slide winder loading coil in for good measure.
Sounds like a great experiment!
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES if it works I'll treat myself to a pint down the pub 🍻
@@adam-g7crq cheers!!
Hi Walt, maybe when you get back stateside you could try one of these instead of the HF360 no radial one. You have the ground plane on the roof so no just attach the ground from the unun to it.
That’s a great idea!
walt you have inspired me to make a rybakov antenna for field day. does it require a tuner? i have a 12m spider beam vertical support what length would you recommend to work most bands? I also have a 4:1 and a 9:1 unun. any recomedations on length of the vertical ? Thanks
Yes indeed, it requires a tuner
The swr meter in the g90 seems to show very low numbers with long runs of cable. I was thinking I had a magic antenna until I plugged in the mfj meter and things looked closer to normal
Love it! Maybe a good alternative for the dx commander...dont show Callum this video! Lol😂
So very cool how a little bit of wire can perform so nicely. I also have a G90 which ill need to put back i use again - it has been shelved since i got the ft-891. id love to try and do this builf. I have that exaxt un-un. But Unless i am at a park doing pota i do not have a lot of space at all to do a vertical with ground radials. You are very fortunate to have the yard to play with. How big a space did this antenna take up, like 15 ft diameter or so? Have you tried using a window screen as a ground radial field? Very small and convenient and apparently works well. KB9VBR and others have good vids on YT showing window screens being used in lieu of radials. Cheers and 73!
It took up about 30 feet diameter with the radials. I’ve seen the KB9VBR video but haven’t tried it yet. Get that G90 out!!! All the best and 73!
Just built one the afternoon but condition aren't good so i will give it a try later this evening
Hopefully conditions will improve, it’s a great antenna
Thanks for all this great information Walt. My Spiderbeam pole is 7m long, but I do have spare rods. How are you attaching yours to the top of your 7m pole ? Gaffer tape or something else ? Many thanks. Martin M0UMS
Hi Martin, just taping it to the pole with electrical tape.
Love those thin poles, is it a fishing rod? Great videos by the way.
Yes they are collapsing fishing poles I found on Amazon: Goture Telescopic Tenkara Fishing... www.amazon.com/dp/B074M4Y4KT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Nice transceiver the G90
Yes it is! Very easy to travel with
You could call it a "Piscator" if you don't want to call it by a Russian name for some reason. ;)
SOTABeams has (or had) 3d printed guy line rings that fit over the top and stop when the ring reaches a big enough segment. I use one and it works well to keep things from bouncing too much in the wind. I'm tempted to make this antenna now because of this video. I even have that exact 4:1 balun sitting here.
Thanks for the info!
@coastalwaveswires I enjoy your videos keep up the good work. I am building the Rybakov and I was wondering if you have a fold over or is it straight? Byron KD9VPU 73
Thanks! It’s a straight 7.6m (25’) I don’t do a fold over. 73, Walt
Hmmmm....need to go do some reading now....seems like a very good go-bag antenna.
Yes I think it would actually be a great go-bag antenna. I discovered it online, just do a Google search, there are a couple pages with info
Walt, thank you for the vid'...
Does your G90 tune this antenna? What other tuner do you use with your other QRP rigs to tune it?
73, Larry de KF4LBG
Hi Larry, my G90 tunes this thing perfectly. I als have a LDG AT-100 Pro II tuner that I use with my other radios. It's great. 73, Walt
Partly, I have a problem with the rybakov antenna, which I made myself according to... project online. However, my G90 tunes the antenna only in the 10-meter band and barely in the 20-meter band. The box cannot handle the remaining bands. The only difference I made was to use the FT-140-43 core in the unun. Maybe someone can advise.
I'm going to try this i have the 9:1 up on a 7m pole does great EFHW but I'm going to try this I have the 4:1 LDG I tried a loop messing about cool indeed :)
Awesome, good luck!
Cool antenna!👍
Ryba in Macedonian also means fish.🐟😁
Cool, I’m currently learning Polish and Rybak is fisherman here.
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES Nice, good to learn and realise that many European countries share some same and similar words.👍
Another great antenna. Need to buy you and the wife a nice dinner if you are ever on S. Calif. 73 WA6MOW
Thank you Alan, we might take you up
On that someday my friend!
I see you run at higher voltages around 15v. Does that help get a little more power or more power in more situations for you on the G90?
I’m thinking it might, this is a new small power supply I brought over with me and I set it at 15v this week to experiment.
Hi: Do you know if that works with a 4:1 balun instead of a 4:1 unun? I thank you in advance. 73 from Brazil. Sergio, PS7CY
It may work but I'm not sure if it would work as well as an unun. It's not a balanced antenna so it really needs an unun. 73, Walt K4OGO
Ler me ask: If I put antenna in a tower to give some heigh to the Mast how can I add counterpoise?
This antenna was meant to be a ground mounted antenna. Raising it will actually decrease its effectiveness. For a raised vertical take a look at some commercial alternatives with fixed radials
A 7.5 mtr vertical will resonate on 30mtr as a 1/4 wave and 10mtr as 3/4 wave .... with out balun , what will change with the 4:1 balun?
Well this is a 7.6 meter antenna that covers more than 30 and 10. Slightly different in length and thus the 4:1
Is it possible to put up this antenna on roof top, Xeigu G90 radio here?
absolutely!
Hi how are you today?
I had a lot of beams. I sold everything when I moved house.
Now I start all again but I will not spend a lot of money in antennas.
Do you advice any good vertical to be my principal antenna? I made a T2LT for 10m
Now Im looking for 20m . A multiband will be great but Im not good to build antennas.
Thanks in advance
I think the perfect principal vertical antenna would be a DX Commander:
dxcommander.com/product/dx-commander-80m/
Hey Walt, if you were only using the lower part of each band for CW and FT8 would you use a slightly longer wire or counterpoise? regards FOO (Steve)
Walt, do you use an in-line rf choke on your G90 with this Rybakov?
Yes, I do now. At the feedpoint
Both radios and antenna were getting it done. 73 Walt KO4HPC :)
Yes it is a great setup! Thanks for watching my friend!
Do you have a video of how you add extensions to the Goture fishing rod?
No but what I do is slide the extension parts over the bottom pole and wrap the connection with tape.
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES Slide the bottom pole out a bit, lash the extensions to it including the antenna wire and push it up, correct? Also, have you consider Faraday cloth as the ground plane instead of wires?
What do you use to charge your LiFePo4 battery when portable
Hi Rohan, I use the small LifePo4 charger that came with my 6aH battery when I bought it.
Im here in France, trying to catch you on 40 ... F/AD2EM ... when are you on?
I’ll be on in the evenings this week, if you have a Twitter follow me and message me and we will make the contact @SaltyWaltHudson
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES will do...
Wow, the NY station sounded like a local
That was a great QSO, I couldn’t believe I broke the pileup!
Will the inbuilt 7300 tuner work?
Yes it should work well
I built this and it works 6-40
I've checked everywhere and I cannot find that unit. It must be only sold in Europe. I am also starting to believe in that radio. The G90 is the ticket..
I bought the 4:1 unun from DX Engineering in the States, I got the radio from Radioddity in the States.
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES I wonder why Google didn't find it?? That will be the first.
What you think about this rig Chameleon 1.8-54 MHz Modular Portable Antenna System
It looks pretty awesome, would love to get one. Maybe in the future
@COASTAL WAVES & WIRES the radio you using is pretty awesome g90. If you would have a chance to go higher with the price and quality what would be your next choice? I am new to all this. I really appreciate your answers
@@andreyolenyk6253 would probably get a Yaesu FT-891. Great 100 watt portable rig
@COASTAL WAVES & WIRES thank you man.
@COASTAL WAVES & WIRES one last question good man. Can ft891 or xiegu g90 get coupled with anytone AnyTone AT-D878UVII Plus. I mean not coupled but transmitting from ft891 to anytone hand radio
It's a great antenna - Mine is 16 m in an inverted L - works 80-6. Insertion loss is reasonable as is efficiency. I have it connected to a radial field shared with a 1/4 wave vertical. It's a little down on the 1/4 wave but not much !!!
Awesome! Thanks for watching
Noooo! You like this better than your Sigma HF360? That's not good! Lol! But seriously, it looks like a very doable vertical antenna that gets the job done. Nice!
Yes this was a fun portable antenna, I wish my HF360 performed on 10 meters this well lol
My Sigma does pretty well on 10 meter. I've hit Europe quite a lot from the east coast. It is a little weak on receiving though. As you said though, it's best on 20. And...wait for it - I'm using the Plus Kit! Wanna borrow it?😂
@@jimcav1013 hahaha I’m thinking about getting one
Is this antenna able to run 100w ssb?
Yes absolutely
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES thank you!
Walt 2e0ilf here i have a spare 49:1 unun would this work
Not at that length, 49:1 is suited for a EFHW. Impedance for this antenna only requires a 4:1 for a match
Thx wslt 73
Seems like a really simple antenna to build!
Super easy! Hardest part was measuring the wire lol
No choke ?
It like all other antennas will work without a choke, you will be better results with a choke
Will try one here Walt. Your AGC setting is too fast for SSB.
Yes I play with the AGC often and that setting may have given me a better reception at one point and I just left it there.
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES on SSB, a fast agc lets too much noise slip through between words, which is what I heard on your video. Fast is best for cw
hello walt......KE8SAF
Hello James!!!
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES that’s a cool antenna. May have to build me one. I am renting a trailer so I’d have to hide it in back…. Lol
@@jamesbellke8saf645 would be easy to put up and take back down!
Agc is on fast, on 20mtr
Yep, I was probably jumping around the bands and tinkering, normally set to S
Rybakov doesnt mean a fisherman. fisherman is "rybak", to understand what is 'rybakov' (the word in the plural form!!) u have to imaging an object that belongs to fishermen. So
1) The fishermen have a net = U rybakov est set. who's got a net? so the word rybakov means that fishermen have something (plural), u cant use it without context.... better suggestion
'rybak antenna'
Don't complain to Walt, complain to the guy who invented and named the antenna
I love my g90
So do I, it's a great radio, especially for travel and portable ops!
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES I use it for portable, it's awesome 👌
@@COASTALWAVESWIRES on top of it being a good radio, it has a built-in tuner, antenna analysis all in one box, you don't want to run over 40%duty cycle because it will get hot, that is the only downside it's even got a waterfall, for portable it is the ultimate.