FFXIV making money without trying [Gil Making Guide]
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- NO GATHERING AND NO CRAFTING REQUIRED! LEt's talk about how to make gil the easiest and most painfree way in ff14. money making is hard when you first get started, so this method is geared at people who have very little to invest and want to get rich in final fantasy for free or close to it ;)
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"Take advantage of lazy crafters"
I knew it was suspicious some of this was conveniently around when I needed it.
Lol.
Yes, we scope around the board to see what you crafters are making at the moment. lol
Me
You can actually have a summoning bell in your house, so you could have this vendor standing directly next to the bell, eliminating the loading screens.
Tl;Dr
Seals --> Items to sell
Retainer Quick Explorations. The hunting materials are nearly worth nothing.
Large Scale Leves are easy money while waiting in queues.
Maps.
Poetics --> HQ items. (if you dont care about relic weapon.)
19 minutes of how quick it takes to sell in 1 minute 👌😂🤠👍 love it
Good to see this is still alive after they added the "shop sell price" tooltip
Ya I would have though that would hurt this. It doesn’t.
Thank you for the tips. As the leader of my FC, I need to support my team better. Financially is good place to start😁👍🏽
Very cool.
First couple postings I did was Cotton Bolls. I was amazed that a 10gil item sold for 500 each. I'm thrifty so I'd never spend 50x the vendor price, but as a poor noob I'm glad there are others who will! And at least this is 'honest' work. Better than the people who just repost items at higher prices.
Grats!!! It’s crazy.
As someone who is an omnicrafter and an omnigather, this video is pretty funny. I knew I was saving a lot of gil by gathering the bulk of my own materials, but I didn't know I was saving this much!
When I do buy materials on the MB, it's usually the materials that can only be gotten as mob drops (particularly leather) or when I need literally hundreds of a certain item. But in general, this is great advice; crafters tend to be super lazy and exploiting that market is the smart thing to do.
Ya this just works for the handful that aren’t mob drops.
Please do not undercut like him. Please only undercut by 1 gil. People will buy the lowest price.
Teageltron I was trying to sell a Cassie Earring, and I undercut the lowest price by 1 Gil. That guy responds by dropping his Cassie Earring by 10 million!! It's like, come on, bruh...
@@nh558a yeah, I have been trying to talk with the players on my server that are in the same market as me and tell them to only undercut by 1 gil and keep the prices high. But then some random person starts making items in our market and tanks the prices.
In some cases. Some of those the prices have gone too high and it won’t sell. I have been selling vendor commodities on this server consistently for over a mont leading into this video and some of these items will only go so high
I usually look at the history and keep that in mind. Granted while filming I was doing it fast so I don’t know if those were the most strategic pricings I could have done but by 1 only works if it sells for that price. If the history shows it only moving at 100 each and the market has it at 300 you run the risk of it just sitting there. I also price very differently for items I make vs items I bought off a vendor. The vendor stuff is not a capped market. My competition and I literally have an infitinte source of effortless items so it bounces around more
As a new player who really wanted to get into crafting, but thought the price of materials was way too high, I finally understand why! Makes sense, since running around to gather resources as a newbie is definitely a pain, so I can see now why the markets are pretty much a newb trap when it comes to a lot of materials. Definitely going to have to take advantage of this at some point!
Once you know where things are coming from and what they are used for it’s a lot easier to interact with confidently.
Don’t be lazy. Level Mining and Botany. Stick to ores and logs. It took me a few months but I have all DoL and DoH classes at max. I have well over a 100 mil. Do not waste Gil on minions and mounts. After maxing our all of the classes save everything. When SHB drops, you wanna be able to o fund your way from 70 to 80 and buy materia to overmeld. Also save all your grade VI materia that you come across because you will need it to overmeld. Your first million should come from selling gear you get from msq.
This is for sure a way to make a pot of money. Thanks for sharing!
This hurts because I can already feel the market board filled and the market screwed, but at least that works
Lol market board ui would make a big difference in how much t got used and by who as well
To reduce this "minute of work" further you can buy many 99-Stacks at once, since they do not stack at 99 in your inventory. So you have less loading-screens for the items you are sure to sell many times a day.
Yes. After you know what items actually sell this is a good idea. Especially if it’s from a vendor you have to commute to. That being said, it does Require you have to have some cash around to do that so it may be something you build to if you are really broke when you start this. Good tip!
I keep stumbling upon your videos lately. You consistently have good delivery of your information. I like your presentation style. I don't even need this video (I'm a max lvl omnicrafter), but your presented the information so well that I just kept listening anyway. I will likely be directing some folk from the Novice Network your direction.
There's no reason to undercut by more than 1 gil, unless you're intentionally trying to crash the market. Buyers will always buy the lowest regardless. You can't go lower because you think the next seller is going to undercut /what you would have put/ BECAUSE /they will undercut you anyway/. They can see what you have up. So best to stay as high as possible.
I am still early in Stormblood so not sure what to gather (I have level 70 botany and mining, and mid 50s fishing though) but I did this method. Majority was selling iron ore, and although it wasn't as much per stack as this video, I went from 44K 1 week ago, to just over 700K as of this morning. I dig it. I sold some big ticket items I got via ventures and some maps as well, but I'd say at least 400-450K was made selling these vendor items. amazing lol
That camera setting hurts my Legacy-user brain 😵
Lol
If you own a house or apartment you can put the vender and bell right next to each other and never even leave your house Lol. i used to reset prices on the boards to make money. When people were selling things way under priced i would buy them up and put them all right back on the boards at a price closer to what their worth. Its a risk though. Cuz sometimes you do all that and people go right back to distroying the items value and you either lose money or break even.
Lol nice.
Yup, I have fun doing the destroying to people who do that, especially if it's a vendor sold item. Someone trying to run up Copper Ore prices by buying it up, I'll sit there and keep putting it up for about 5 gil each when they are trying to get it up to about 50-100 gil each. lol it still makes me money but it starts hurting their profits.
This is an awesome tip
I've never thought about it
I'm a freaking idiot XD
Lol pricing it is a little more of just will it work than items you know you have the market on. If you and one other guy are the only ones making a set of earrings everyone needs them only undercut each other by 1 and occasionally reset the market to its peak but with this it’s just blow and go, quantity of sales gets the job done
Thank you for the video, it gave me enough confidence to try the market out
Nice! This patch should be really big for gold making so I plan on going back to refresh a lot of these in case there is anything new or slightly different I would say this time around.
I've just returned to the game after more than 3 years away and I had to make a new character unfortunately. I originally played at 2.0 launch and was an omnicrafter at 50 and 60 and was working on 70. I have found the biggest thing slowing me down is gil, I went with PLD as my first DoW class and thanks to the preferred server buff I'm leveling so fast I can't keep up with gear, so I started my crafting jobs. I managed to get them all to level 25+ but then hit the gil wall again. This guide is the video I needed to see to remind me of some of the tricks I've forgotten. The biggest piece of advice I needed to be reminded of is how do you get to your first million? SLOWLY. I'm like the guy in the video, I never sat on a fortune, I spent it but when I needed money I could make it, so when housing came out I just made 15 million and bought a medium house, then sat at 3-5 million until further notice.
I have just hit some of the good money makers I remember on a couple of my crafters so I'm waiting on the market board as we speak but I also have about 30 retainer slots empty so as soon as I log on today my first task is to fill those. My PLD is about to hit level 41 and I don't want to do Stone Vigil in low end gear as I remember that dungeon steps it up a couple of notches on damage taken and my weapon is also out of date so, making money it is!
Thanks for the guide buddy, you made a returning, and struggling player very happy.
Oh wow cool now more people know about this and we'll all have a harder time making money in this way.
Yes it kind of undermines my buisness, so not thank you for this I guess :)
i stopped doing this like 5 yrs ago. Although buying iron for 18g and flipping it was how i purchased my first house at when they released after launch
There’s an estimated 1 million active players and our videos stay under 50k views so I’m not sure it will have the impact you guys are fearing but I will say if it does, people get bored of things like this when they achieve a goal or find something else to focus on so it should level out in a few weeks when another good money making technique is talked about by someone in the community ;)
Chief, it takes one or two people per server to crash the market on an individual item. They get into an undercutting back and forth then the whole board is flooded and no one makes money for months. The thing is you're also shooting yourself in the foot and making it harder for YOU to make gil as well. Not sure why you're ok with that.
During the last big housing rush I sold stacks of Fishmeal for 60k each when they sold from a vendor for 2k each. Used to sell tons of them to all the new people with houses getting into gardening lol... Biggest gil earner for generating gil from absolutely nothing is going to be gathering though. A low level miner can earn half a million to a million gil an hour mining silver ore for example.
Silver Ore is a great way to make cash. You need it all the way through for Stormblood materials, but you can't buy it anywhere. It has to be mined. Fortunately, it's a very low-level node, so you can just sit there and level mining while getting a bunch of silver ore.
@@0bsidianfire948 Yeah, there are a number of low level things people can gather that are still used in high level crafting which some high level may not want to bother gathering since time is money. Cobalt Ore is another good one starting at about level 50 miner I believe. Used to craft Cobalt Ingots which in turn are used in a ton of housing items as well as a number of the level 50 glamour weapons.
Good suggestions
Was expecting a 1 minute video about Gil making. I guess i need more sleep 🙃
lol maybe next time
Patch Tactic lol
One of the best tips i ever got about making money has nothing to do with and Item at all lol.. I was told name your Retainers with all A names since prices are listed in alphabetical order, The closer to a Aa name will put you first if someone ties your price..It works ive sold many items with 2 or 3 people ( i usely sell house glams made in a fc) with ppl matching 5 or 6 mil and 9/10 mine sells first.
Lol what an old school phone book of a tip!!!
@@Work2Game No hate on us older gamers haha but yes it a sneeky one few now lol keep up the great videos:)
Lol I am a little nostalgic of looking stuff up as a kid when I see a phone book. We don’t even get them anymore.
@@Work2Game hey i could drive before gps lol Heres a fun game. Try n guess the number of phone booths there was in your teenage years and now try n remeber the last one you say lol
Lol when I was in Boy Scouts they told us to always carry change for a pay phone. I don’t even know if I could find one that worked now if you told me it had a winning lottery ticket in it. There’s some empty ones in strip malls near me but there is no phone in them lol
Easiest way if you’re playing shadowbringers is do FATES on the first.
Just accumulate bicolor gems then find the gem vendors. Buy housing items. Some of these items sell from 20k to 100k.
By minimum sales of items, the bicolor gems is worth around 1500 gils per piece if you do the math. That means each fate is worth about 18,000 gils if you buy housing items with the gems. Check the market board which sell high and fast. Don’t get greedy and overprice.
Thanks so much for this video, I made a million gil in 5 days doing this!
Welp, this is the FFXIV equivalent to that RuneScape trout video.
RIP my method of making gil. Thanks.
So I have been using this any time I want lazy money for years and never put a guide up. Even rarely do it on stream. I watch a few gold makers for wow on UA-cam that put guides or all the time and they have said that guides like this still don’t change the core issue. Most people are lazy in games. The market, if you see it affected, bounces back in a few weeks. And these are guys with view counts per video whole digits above what we get so this is the test. I have a few other things I have done that have made me a few million a day woth not much more effort than is seen here and I’m assuming I can share those too, guess we will see ;)
@@Work2Game well I do appreciate the work you're putting into it
I look forward to the next guide you put up. I'll let you know how Zodiark's MB fairs lol
Thanks and please do
@@Work2Game share them too plszxx haha
I was temporary denied access to the free company house because I ate all the food on the table. I think they're jealous that even as a lala, I can still stash them foods.
Another way to double-up on potential is to check sale prices of the crafted components. If you're already buying iron ore on the cheap--check the price of iron ingots. You can sometimes sell iron ore AND iron ingots for profit. Not to mention quick synthing ingots is a great way to slowly level up a craft (if it's in that area), and you can watch TV or something while you quick synth.
Additional good vendor resale items are Emperor's New Gear and level 1 weapons/tools. Vendor furniture can be good too, but will require more research to make sure you stay in the black.
Biggest money maker of all is crafting though it takes a large amount of effort to get them all max leveled then even more effort and money to get max ilvl and fully melded. Though once you do you can make tens of millions of gil PER DAY.
Yes. I his is what you can do until then
It's not all about just being lazy though. For some new players that 5k profit for a 99 stack great, sure.
But realize the crafter may use 5 of them and then put the remaining stack back on the MB to sell, or may just end up using all 99 to make multiple items. Sure now they are 5k out but at the end of the day the time saved may be worth it for them. One minute of my crafting time is worth 16k gil to me because I value my crafting time at 1mil/hr. So for some it is more worthwhile to spend the extra cash on the MB instead of running and hitting a few loading screens before you begin to craft.
And I definitely budget my crafting time because too often I've sat down to make something and ended up working on it for 2 hours instead of one because of gathering materials from various NPCs or nodes. In the end I find I've lost money because I would have been better off buying double the mats off the MB and crafting a second set for more profit than gathering mats to reduce the price to craft the first set. Think of it as I spent 60k to make 200k (140k difference) because I gathered mats, but I could have just spent 220k to make 400k (180k difference) in the same amount of time by making double the amount of items (or less time since I never have to move away from the board/bell).
Level a tank or healer, be adventurer in need, make easy money 😀
Ya the reward really adds up
I just reached level 50 as a warrior and this is my first character. can you tell me why its easy money for being a tank?
@@noelbnetz Tanks get better adventurer in need bonuses generally, especially for leveling
I just did some tonight and each leveling roulette was a quick 10,000 gil, since dungeons picked in leveling are usually super easy you can generally run them with little to no effort.
Not sure how the rates are for healer and dps, but im a tank and i run quite a few roulette every night and i still have 1 mil gil even after buying a bunch of glams.
Noel Benitez as much as it sucks for all damage dealing players healers and tanks are the "adventurers in need" 99.999% of the time, and when you search for a dungeon as the class thats marked as "adventurer in need" you get bonus XP and gil
I can attest that when I'm lvling crafting or gathers I'll pay watever cuz I much rather turn in leves rapidly than worry about each item and where the vendor is.
But if it's an item I craft for my market then I do the research to save on cost.
Ya it’s sounding like from the comments we should talk about when prices can be trusted vs when they can’t. I wasn’t focused on t for this video because he point is just to get it gone and make a little bit to max min like when you are hq crafting the newest gear set and the margins are thin or the market is only good for a few weeks so you need to make what you can. This is just a way to find a 5$ in an old jacket when you need it. It makes me 1-2 million a Week when I do it but that’s far from what crafters can make.
I've played ffxiv since the very beginning and I never knew about the guild suppliers. Ok, I never looked, but thank you!
The easiest way is probably to ERP tbh. Head to limsa lominsa or ul'dah. :3
Lol
Guess I'm not surprised that there's a Goldshire type place in every game.
My friend made like 7 mil in 3 days like that. It's scary
@@Elazul2k the meta strat is to be actually good at it and actually enjoy it
That way it's a win win for one and win lose for the other
Just level a DoL class at least so one can dig treasure maps, gazelleskins for 4.0 daily. A full pt with each doing 1 map easily made 200k gil total average. & if one happens to score rares, it’s a very easy cha-ching to ur purse ;)
Or... one can just buy maps from MB. Checked several hours ago, gazelleskins only sells around 7k gil @ my server.
Ya if ou have time to level them I find it very relaxing.
Or.... If you have an FC, 1 vendor sells all of it. Not to mention, all of that stuff can level all of your crafters to 15 without having to actually go gather it. I would almost say it's an equal time investment leveling your crafters as much as just playing the marketboard game. And I'm not even a crafter.
Ya 30-50 has been the harder part to get crafters over for me but Ill check back in when I cap them all out
you can have a summoning bell inside your home as well to save you the load screen.
Ya someone else mentioned hat. Had no idea lol. Change the title to 10 seconds instead of a minute ;)
@@Work2Game do I need my own home or I can use only free company house for this? Instead of going to vendro far away like you didn't in this video
Glamour Prism, Paints and... Glamour Dispeller (not sure if dispeller still is good, but i've made 500k in a weekend just buying at merchant and selling at MB)
0/10. Got stuck in a barrel. Ended up taking 2 minutes. Never doing this again! :c
Stuck in a barrel?
This is a viable strat to start off getting gil, however no you won't get rich off of it over night, like the "25k gil in a day in under a minute's worth", that isn't much and you can get more than that by leveling a gatherer or a tank/healer queuing for a dungeon. Also if you want to make gil from the MB there are a few items that'll be more guaranteed to sell at a decent price, that is Timeworn Maps and Minions. Now some minions are a dime a dozen cause they drop from something just about every time, but some of the crafted ones you can find for a good 10k-100k or more depending on which one it is and if there are a lot of crafters on your server. Also gatherers, literally if you don't craft then everything you gather will be profit. High Quality DOES MATTER trust me there are going to be items you can buy at a vendor for cheap but they are Normal Quality and some crafter somewhere will be looking to grab up some HQ cause they want to make the HQ item and they need the HQ mats for it, so that Iron Ore he is selling in this video, go farm it. It takes me about an hour to get about 300-400 NQ Iron Ore and usually I have about 75-100 HQ as well. Gathering is at a nice set pace and can be something to do during those 15-20 minute DPS queues, or just to get some gil.
Another big ticket item, Shards, Crystals, and Clusters. If you have a gatherer then you can get tons of shards and crystals just by being about level 30 and going to the few places that have just the Shard, Crystal, and a Pigment. Those along with the Ward skills and the lovely Trait that gives an additional 1-9 extra on your next gather for the shards/crystals/clusters/pigments/other items that can't HQ, and you'll be able to put a good amount of them up for about 150-500 each depending on the item and current going price. One MAJOR thing to remember, your retainers can ONLY sale 20 stacks of items at one time and still max stack at 99 not the 999 you can for normal items, however the Shards/Crystals/Clusters CAN be in stacks of up to 9999 for sale. This means you can farm it out to max and put that up on the MB for a good price and sell it all for one giant gil grab. Also do note that the vendor items like Iron Ore and such will eventually bottom the market out, if there's not enough demand for the item and too much supply then prices will crash. Moving to a different item is going to be helpful but others will also do the same, so it'll be a constant juggling of who's selling what and who wants to sell for just a tiny improvement and who wants to get the big gil grab from the sucker who wants to pay that much more instead of buying it from the vendor.
I think doing this method is good for starting out, when you have next to no gil and want to get to around 100k to start things up, however it's not something you can do and sustain a few million gil. Getting a gatherer leveled will get you over 1 million on it's own, and if you want to get a crafter leveled then having the 3 gatherer classes all leveled will mean you have 75% of all the materials you'll need for just the cost of time and effort. The other 25% will be from mob drops so you can always get them from any combat class you want to play as. Now a final thing to note with gatherers and making gil, there are Unspoiled Nodes at lvl 50 and also at 60 and 70 that have a short time that they are active and it's just a single node that doesn't respawn for you until the next time that certain node will spawn. Those items are usually in lower supply since farming them isn't the easiest thing in the world as it's all on Eorzea Time so each node is usually a good hour in RL Time from spawning, some spawn more often but others tend to take a while before the next spawn. There is a nice site called FFXIVClock.com that tracks all those spawns and tells you when they are going to spawn. Not only that but thanks to player input they also can tell you which slot has which item so you don't have to guess or use 300 GP off the jump to reveal all of them.
also tell people not to waste money in the game too... which matters more than making money.
You're just selling convenience. And I think that's totally alright. It's the same as with music, movies and games. People do pay money for convenience. They don't go to piracy, because they don't want to pay money, they just do it if it's more convenient than going into a store and buying it there.
And the market board is the most convenient way to get stuff there is. If I want to have something for crafting or a quest or anything else, I go to the board, pick the thing I want and don't care whether it would have been a few gil less if I want out of my way to get it elsewhere. But if you invest a little time and sell dozens of those stacks, it really pays off really fast.
Honestly one of the most steady ways to get money for me is just selling glamour prisms.
I was a 4 star crafter in 3.0- 4.0 had a mansion for my self and decided to move servers so couldn’t take most my Gil or had to consolidate it. A good way to eat some cash slowly would be crafting crafter turn in items for levels some people buy them in bulk to speed level their friends crafters although this method was only really prevalent during the beginning of a expansion considering a lot of people didn’t have lax crafters with best in-slot materia.
Interesting. Hadn’t tried selling those.
I used to sell Glamour prisms as well, then I remembered leve and grand company crafter turn ins.
So I make most of my money by selling the Stormblood Culinarian turn in items. Easy to make HQ and I think they sell well because each Culinarian recipe requires sooo many ingredients which take up precious bag space and I guess a lot of players don't want to carry around tons of cooking materials.
Yathe ways you can make money off doh and dol are endless
I did this back in ARR&HW and got to 5M(lost most of it when I moved servers though).
Pro tip you can look for rarer vendors and try to list their items(Beast Tribes, Ishgard or other niche ones) at battle camps and sell their items but make sure you cheek the price and history to see if it's a good investment.
This is great until you have a faster way to make money and can carry you to endgame and beyond. ^
BTW Chris your recording a tearing a lot :O
Thanks
This is easy, but I also look for stuff selling under vendor price and buy all of them which is even easier. There usually is something on the market board that vendor for higher they market board price.
Ya I have a few items I look for from time to time because they get way below consistently.
@chris what do you typically spend your Gil on besides crafting?
I don’t continually glamour and I don’t own a house so I spend it on things like when I get behind on hearing for a class just buying a whole set (a few million does it). I also have given money to friends when they join the game to play with me and any time I’m trying to make a guide I will blow a ton trying to make sure something works. I was exploring a materia trick people were talking about on reddit that didn’t work and spent a fair bit trying it out because I wanted to check the math over a large sample by myself. It honestly doesn’t have that many uses in game if you aren’t into buying consumables to raid or glamour.
I dont understand anything you are saying im a level 50 but i still don't know a lot of stuff
TBH I have my summoning bell next to my matrial supplier and my Hokonin(housing merchant)
Shout out to Joey bag-O-Donuts
Lol that was funny. I was trying to finish my thought and all I could hear was birbiglia jokes
Going back to revisit this videos... I do miss the random outros.
Just sell materia or any materials you get. If you have no crafters. Materia use to be the best way till they made it so easy to get
Ya if you run dungeons a lot it just seems to show up
Don't undercut by so much! Either match the lowest or undercut by 1. It will put at the top still. You are making yourself lose profit by going so much lower and risk crashing the market.
Thanks for the advice, I can make a video on why I price where I do and see if we line up
He wasnt undercutting by as large of a margin as it seemed in the video. He looked up the historical values, and many of the items were still listed over the historical average.
He wasn't crashing the market, but I see it more like stabilizing the market.
Its been a while since I've messed with this kinda stuff, but I used to slay it with dyes from the dyemonger. Some of them you can buy for dirt cheap and they will sell for 50k. When everyone was lvling RDM, crimson red dye made me millions!
And now everyone is leveling blue mage. Yay blue dyes.
@@jrheiselt I've been wondering what the hot color is gonna be for dancer? Soft pinks and yellows? Also kinda speculating on whats gonna happen to piety materia. Could see a big jump in price. Not gonna lie, playing the MB like the stock market is one of my favorite things in this game.
For dancer, I would go with purple, but i would go with purple for everything...
Maps! Maps and more Maps! Legit on a good day and if RNG is in ur favour you can get upwards to 600k per Map session. I can't recommend doing Maps enough. Join or make a LS for maps and boom, instant gil and fun times with friends!
What do you mean LS? you mean Linkshell? because tbh idk how those work, but if you could quickly explain id be eternally grateful!
A linkshell is a chat channel that is crossworld and perpetual. They can be set up to talk about something or just to have likeminded individuals so you can respond to it from pretty much anywhere (don’t know if it works in dungeons since many types of chat don’t)
Maps?
@@razor191919 treasure maps! U can gather them or get them from the market board
Well the cats out of the bag was sell stacks of iron ore for 150 gil mad 10 mill in like 5 days
Lol this won’t stop it from working.
I have 8 million gil from just leveling alts and doing quests. I don't really buy or sell stuff ever though. Leveling with dungeons, potd, and hoh a lot seem to give me lots of gil. I have my crafters in the 30 to 40 range and I'll sell some excess stuff I make, but I don't really buy mats or spend too much time an effort leveling them.
If you don’t buy stuff you can live without this game gives you way more than you use. It’s 300k just from arr. then we go up a tier in head ward then sb?
@@Work2Game Yeah, I never buy anything from the AH. I try to get materia from doing stuff, I never invested in housing, and I farm all my gear. I also have like 12 classes at 70, so all of that leveling and dungeon grinding adds up. Even when I do crafting, I only use mats that I made or gather. If I wanted to get housing, buy some gear, get stuff from for housing, buy some fun stuff, then I would be broke pretty quickly lol
Beast tribe vendors sell materials you can flip also :)
Good point
On my server someone got tired of that and bought all beast tribe stuff in bulk (as well as any stuff from FC vendors and glamour prisms) and spammed the marketboard with extremely cheap prices on them. I know it's the same person because the names are all the same aside from maybe one letter change. Someone went out of there way just to do that. They've been doing this for over a year. One could argue it's good so that everyone has access to cheap materials, but I hate it. Taking advantage of lazy crafters is a huge part of the marketboard and this random person spamming things for low gil is ruining that. It makes it harder for people who aren't at or capable of doing end game content to make gil.
Lol that’s a ton of effort. How many retainers do they have?
If they post 99 stacks all the time increase the price a lil and post smaller stacks. Not everyone wants 99 all the time. You’ll make a lil better profit then them and most likely sell all yours. Works for me most the time. I’ll post in 25’s or 50’s.
That’s a good tip. Especially on items with a higher price tag
a well known trick and seems its still useable. unfortunately its not as viable on greg the bastards here undercut like its drug money lol.
Undercutting for this is no big deal compared to other stuff. You didn’t do any work and the number of vendor items out there is huge. Just move markets.
doman reconstruction is an easy 40k a week just selling allagan coins from retainers ventures. you can sell stuff to doman reconstruction up to the cap at a higher amount.
I wouldn't be able to do this in good conscience
Ack. Broadcasting to the world my fresh character funding process. *crosses fingers*
Lol
nooooo teach people how to undercut by 1gil, not a random amount wtf youre crashing the prices BABYRAGE
I can talk about pricing another time. These items are not imo like others. Crafted items with less turnover and static demand is where undercutting by 1 is logical. These are commodities that both me and my competition do no work for so people just by them when they are cheap. I also, in my server find that flippers are common. People who buy an item from the market board to resist at a higher price. On an item I gather that it taking profit from me if I would just do the flipping instead but in a vendor item I can just feed them at the low price and if they can’t find customers at the high price it’s no sweat off my back. I’d rather make 5k 5 times in a day than 10k once with an items I have an infinite supply of. There are times a lower price makes it sell faster and times it doesn’t imo so knowing the difference is worth discussing. My crafted items are listed at 1 below like you are saying.
I used to sell quest requires meals to culinarians for 20,000 each. It worked for months, but then people realized what I was doing and spammed the marketboard with the same thing I was selling for only 500 gil each -_- People always do this on my server. Things always seem to get cheaper and cheaper, because ppl are impatient and want quick money. Only things that really sell now are things that are extremely rare and unspammable, such as a certain minion or one of the unique glamour weapons.
Because if the limit on retainer slots there is a gap in the market somewhere. Just have to find it. Easy money making schemes are indeed short lived sometimes but the trick I just showed had been around since arr. it goes away and comes back again and I don’t see it ever being gone for good unless those items are not listable on the market board but since many of them are gatherable I don’t see that happening.
Why undercut by 1 Gil? I don’t get it please explain. I rage when I put stuff up on mb and bunch of people undercut by 1 Gil I don’t understand. Makes me want to undercut them but thousands out of spite lol
So there’s a couple of theories on t but the idea is that of course you want to be the lowest but the more you undercut the more someone undercuts you and next thing you know the item is worthless.
when I tried this almost everyone is selling this stuff for less then what I would have to in order to make a profit :/
That's probably because of this video haha But honestly why would ANYONE buy an item on the Marketplace, that you can buy from a NPC that's just stupid.
Check the prices first. Ishgard changed what people are crafting but not that they are lazy when they have too much Gil. I did this for weeks before and after this video exclusively with all 4 of my retainers to know it worked.
Theres aare specific items in the game that you can buy for 60 gil and flip it up to 100,000 gil. Wont say what it is because you all will RUIN IT!!!! But depending on the servers you can get weaver to level 15 and craft Hempen Camise and I've sold those for 45,000. They sell like hotcakes (well back then before the market crashed). Also buy Grade 7 matter! You can get them at Rhaglrs Reach and those are a bit pricey (about 20k for 99) but you can flip them for more than double :) Also I undercut usually by 1gil because..... idc and I want the most profit! No shame in that!
Ya the undercutting is a whole conversation. Very cool to know there are items that are making you that!
Honestly never understood why people buy materials from the market board ... Maybe I'm just stingy but a 1 minuet teleport is definitely better paying 20+ grand on basic materials lol.
Lol well thankfully for anyone that wants 20k not everyone is willing ;)
I tried this, and of course, it utterly failed.
Literally have someone in my discoed using it right now that made 200 million in the last few months and still makes money every day. Did you check the market board before posting? The items I show or use as example will vary over time and server but the concept is still and was working so let me know what the problem is and I’ll try to help you get to making Gil!
@@Work2Game That's cool. I looked up prices for vendor items, found things that looked good, put them up, slightly undercut, maybe by 5-10 gil, they sat there for days. Some millage may vary I suppose.
It can take time. In the top right of the panel where you post be sure to look at pricing history. It will tell you how often you can expect it to sell. For example. Vendor crafting gear I can sell a piece let’s say once every 10 days at a profit of 10k Gil. Or once a day I can sell a stack of vendor food at a profit of 1k or twice a day I can sell vendor ore at a profit of 500. Those are all 1k a day in that example. If my goal (especially at the beginning) is to get my money back with profit quickly I want the ore and when I have all the ore I think will sell posted I add the food because it’s next fastest out of those 3. Then if I still have retainer slots and I’m starting to get a little more cash I want to invest I can grab gear to sell.
All of this you want to be careful about patches so don’t invest in something if the live letters says next patch will be inferior to something new. This is mostly with leveling gear when they screw with poetics etc so people don’t need it. Ore is pretty safe as people level up crafters but right now for example, all crafters above level 20 may focus on ishhard so those may not sell often while that remains the fast wya to level.
Ultimately watch that sale rate to know if it a actually going for those rates but that may help you understand why some of the items you pick are selling slower or lower than you had expected.
Make sense?
Yesterday i just sold 3 stacks of mineral water for a nice bunch of gil. People is soooooooooo lazy...
Lol glad it’s working for you
So I just came back to the game, always just been an endgame progression guy and I'm sitting on 2mil with absolutely no crafting or gathering. Is there anything I can do to make money a bit quicker and more efficiently?
2 million is enough you can start looking into power leveling fishing or a crafter (be careful there since t may not be enough). You could also start to deal in larger priced goods. I would check your server for the prices and selling frequency of the hand and land gear sold in kugane. It makes me 10-30k per transaction on my server and I have less competition but required I can go without a few hundred thousand while I wait. Flipping commodities is also good but takes practice and has risk so enter that market with caution. I’m starting to think desynth would be a last thing to check on this list but don’t have the numbers to back it up yet.
Does that still work in 2020?
He did it boys! Mo money!! No problems the guide is out!
Lol it’s a statt
This just makes me sad that my guild can't get a property cause they are all full. I've been spending my time teleporting to vendors all over the world. :( I don't want to be behind because I am in a small guild with my friends.
World visit may help some by accident. Some servers still have houses available so people would have a choice to transfer off. For some the transfer will event be offered for free
Thanks. I was wondering if there was a way to "buy low, sell high" in-game. I would really like to own a house but don't have time to level DoL/DoH so this is helpful.
No problem. I can show some other methods down the road if the interest is still there
On the DoL/DoH side of things, just do your daily hand ins, I've gotten everything into the 30's doing that every day basically in a month maybe? it helps to have the Exp double status effect from going to the right server and making sure your using a job below 60, but even without that it's not a big deal
Ya there’s a lot of good ways to level those but I get it can be intimidating
Would you recommend selling dye? My FC has a dye vendor and i see some sell on the MB for thousands ;o
If you make money, yes, I have sold dye many times. :)
I can personally vouch for it making you some money, but it is best to farm them out and craft them yourself. A level 30 gatherer and level 30 crafter can make the first sets of colors and usually 2-3 of them will be popular and in demand. This will maximize your profits and only cost you some time. I keep at least a full stack of each pigment on hand just cause I am the dye monger for my FC, I'm an omnicrafter omnigatherer and while many of my FC are rich enough to not care, they still know it's good to just have me craft the item than give the gil away to a vendor or give it to another player through the MB.
@@Pretz_Starwind The vast majority of vendor-sold dyes cannot be crafted. Conversely, most crafted dyes cannot be bought from a vendor (the exceptions being soot black, snow white, royal blue, hunter green, and morbol green). You also need to consider the opportunity cost of gathering the pigments AND the catalysts (each dye costs two crystals -- not shards, crystals -- to make). The cost is not just the time, but also the money you could have made using that time (or venture coin) to gather something else.
@@Ren_nr The theory you have is that by taking time to farm the materials to make the dyes means I've list time to farm something else, correct? Then by that logic every single item on the MB should be over 1 million gil each cause if it took any time to farm out you could be farming out a mount or other drop item that sells for a million plus.
Also as much as you can buy items off a vendor you would be amazed at the sheer amount of people who buy everything off the MB, even with the vendor 2 feet away. I have sold Copper Ore for 50+gil each cause someone was too lazy to take the time to go a few steps over and buy it from the vendor at 2 gil each.
And any item that only has an investment of time as a cost isn't something you should be charging gil for. This line of thought that you must charge the going rate of any item for something you farmed a ton of it up for for free is why things have insanely high prices for items that are readily available and easy to craft.
@@Pretz_Starwind > Then by that logic every single item on the MB should be over 1 million gil each cause if it took any time to farm out you could be farming out a mount or other drop item that sells for a million plus.
Failure in logic. Expensive mounts and minions are expensive because it's low chance RNG. They're rare. Most crafting materials are not rare. So if you're going to farm something *anyone* can get, make it what sells. What makes gil, but also what *moves*. Something that's 100k doesn't mean much if it sells once a week compared to something 25k that's every day.
they need to make a gofundme for mmos
Lol
Jesus man those load screens are horrible. My load times are literally like 5 seconds max, usually only 2-3. I know this is old so I hope you got yourself an SSD since this video went up!
I appreciate you teaching your marketing strats, but isn't the point of being a merchant to not share your secrets?
Lol guess I’m a bad merchant then lol. A wealthy teacher?
@@Work2Game Wealthy indeed! I'm guessing you play on a much more populated server than I do though, considering how quickly you sold.
I’m on a not horribly high pop but it’s legacy so lots of money here.
@@Work2Game I joined Goblin as part of the repopulation initiative for it, but it's still the lowest in terms of activity at any given time so rip gil
Thank you so much for this.
doesnt work on my server, all these items are sold 10 times lower price on mb xD
Are 10 times still profitable? :) I think you might be looking at these specific ideas rather than the thought behind how to make money. Prices will fluctuate.
@@Work2Game well u have a point, i guess it could still be profitable.
but i rather craft glams and sell for overblown price on mb xD
Does anyone else know that the video is clipping a lot like for a second the screen flickers in the video
Hmm not for me. Anyone else? I export at 720p (Brian exports many of his at 1080) but I don’t know why refresh rate would be off
The under cutting prices advice is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. The market is high keep the market high. Only undercut buy one Gil. You make less money in the long run. If you’re still the cheapest buy one gil your stuff is going to fly off the shelf first anyways. The only time this doesn’t happen as if you’re trying to sell a stack and somebody only needs a lower amount of the item.
"4 isnt gonna satisfy anybody" well it depends, ive been levelling goldsmith and when it comes to quest items ive always been server hopping looking for only the exact amount of items i need to craft what i need to craft for a quest, and if i cant get the exact amount ill get whatevers closest, but talking about most players who have max crafters yeah, 4 isnt gonna interest them
That was my method too.I generated 1.5 Million in about one month.
Dope thank you.. an alternative means/excuse to Not craft to get gil lol
Your welcome ;)
@@Work2Game implemented what you had outlined and the trickle Has Begun! Lol
It does work. Not overnight billions butt I’m glad it’s working for you
@@Work2Game hey if it can keep my gear repaired and port fees covered im good with it lol.
Would leveling gathers only and no crafters be good? I don’t have the time or patience to level crafters haha but gathering I’ve always enjoyed
That would be plenty. There is a ton of money to be made with one and not the other.
All the stuff in my inventory says shop selling price none how do I get it to show the price?
That means it’s not sold in a shop. That means it honestly usually has a better value unless market prohibited.
@@Work2Game follow up question as much as i dont want to do crafting lol would leveling Cul and alch only work? just so i can make my own food and potions or would i need to many other things from other crafts to level those?
On every mmo I play I do this and always at at leased 5% mark up 😈😈😁😸😻
Shhhhh you are killing my market hahahaha lol o7
Lol
Quick question, do you sell all the same item with all your retainers? or just resell on 1 retainer? thanks!
dont know if it still matters, but each retainer only can make 20 auctions
Go blue pig!
Yay!
or just do eureka and sell mounts for 20m / nidhogg scales for 2m ;P
Ya but you have to look at the total time investment eureka takes. If you just started the first eureka today if would be dozens of hours to get caught up
You guys do twitch or just UA-cam?
Both. Mostly UA-cam. Our twitch is work2game
Good im not at your server xD i hate ppl who push down the Market prices in such a big rate xD
Lol ok. I can talk about when I think pricing is worth worrying about to start a conversation. These items are not where I am worried about what number I type in on the fly. Just get it listed and move on. When I go farm something on my fisher and every Gil I get is divided by my time spent to give me a Gil per hour I would worry about this a bit more.
My house is in the exact same plot on my server haha. Brynildr Mist W4 P18!
I've been making gil from glamour disspellers buy from the vendor for 500 and we'll stacks for between 650 and 900 gil and they tend to sell over night
Lol nice.
What level do you get the retainers?
It’s story locked behind the level 20 quests, once you’ve progressed into the story you can unlock them in a city
Play the market board. Is this Diablo 3?
That one is really hard to use these days.
I made my first 100 mil off transmutating materia. Very little effort
Ya that’s one I haven’t doen much of. I have messed with materia some but it’s never made me the money it does for others. Do you sell them one at a time or in stacks?
Work To Game One at a time is pretty good for the most part. I don’t transmutate much right now but I just sold a stack of 8 for around 700k
Snap. That’s a lot.
many thanks dude
thanks for this, I can't believe it works
Lol the items it works on changes but I don’t see this going away altogether any time soon. I sold a piece of gathering leveling gear for 5x what I paid and those are dealing in amounts greater than 10k for the buy in so it adds up quick.