@@RJ1999x Deal on 200 went sour. Sold for 4300. Guy said it stayed in gear. Vid had it in first and reverse only. I asked for a vid of all gears and the hi lo being shifted. Never happened. Looked at a 7000 next. Hydraulic issue cropped up and now tractor won't move. I guess I am paranoid but I have no need for someone else's misfortune. Now on to a 7020 with PD trans. Needs interior. There are plenty of well cared for but have faded paint needing tires out there of many brands. I will find one. The chase is but part of the fun!
@@RJ1999x It had a cab but they took it off and put 190XT fenders on it, no weights and had just got the brakes replaced. He was kind of vague I thought about giving answers. I am guessing that there was more to go and he thought this was a good place to let go of it. This 7020 is a one owner.
The 9000 series plow with 7 bottoms (notice it is 5 bottoms with the optional sixth and seventh added on) was made to be pulled by the D-21. With 7 bottoms the tractor was able to drive on flat ground (the two right tires outside the furrow)
It belongs to another guy in our club, so I'm not 100% sure, but I thought it was a Series II. If you look closely at thre hood, back by the driver, you can almost make out the writing: "Series II Turbocharged Diesel" But I'll double check next time I see him. Thanks for the comment.
Sod cutters or coulters really.make a difference in how a plow does,i once took mine off to plow corn stubble,thinking to make the plow somewhat lighter in wieght an give better trash clearance!what a mistake on my part they did a pretty fair job of ripping but it didnt resemble plowing,so i put em back on!Hah,lesson,s learned!
The problem looks like the plow isn't set, doesn't look like the moldboards are scoured either its not rolling its pushing, that's why the 21 is fighting
Plow NOT set up right. Looks like coulters are not lining up with mould boards correctly the way dirt is coming around the sides of them. Get it set correctly and it will pull 2x easier with a better job of rolling the furrow over
Yes, as some have pointed out, the plow needed adjustment. This was the first time this plow had been used since putting it back together. But you can't get it adjusted correctly until you actually try it out.
D21 allis-chalmers are equivalent to 50 10 but mine d a d but my dad operated the 5010 John Deere but when the season was over dad drove my tractor so we got rid of the Long Green Line
I run a 7040 PS boosted to 150 HP on the dyno and a 5 /16 monobeam 2000 and I pull in 3rd low set at 8 to 10 inches in Ohio clay... NO dials 20.8 tires and she just walks away with it... I can pull in 4th but it will beat your teeth put... We just did 10 acres plus of sod that hadn't seen any fitting in over 20 years... You can see any grass and about lay a 2x4 across the field level... You adjust em right AC plows are unmatched!!!
Ground seems too wet in enough places that he needs to wait a couple of days before trying to use that turning plow on it. Love that D 21. It will really pull. With this rig he may want to put duals wheels on the back.
Yes, some areas were quite wet. Ideally we would have waited a few days. But, this was at our club's fall plow day and we either went out and plowed (despite the wet soil conditions) or it was going to be cancelled. We chose to go out and try.
@@jonelsonster Certainly understand. I'm envious of you folks having that great big D 21. I always wanted to drive one. Biggest one I ever drove, and I drove it a lot, was the XT 190 Diesel. Fine tractor. Very best to you and the farmers everywhere in this upcoming crop season.
Hard to tell from the video but the hitch does not appear to be in front of the center of resistance. It looks like the hitch can be moved one slot more to the land side to balance the pull. Too much pull to the furrow side will cock the plow and the land side resistance will vastly increase and stick the plow. That's my guess.
Gerald: You really hit the nail on the head. Unbolt 2 plow bottoms and do a good job plowing, rather than trying to skim across the surface. He is not even covering over the sod.
Yes, there are adjustments that need to be made. You must have missed when I said this was his first time playing with this tractor and plow combo. It's impossible to get it set up perfectly straight out of the gate. PERIOD.
Bullshit a d 21 will handle a 7 bottom fine it needs set it's not turning dod it's pushing it my dad had a davidbrown 990 that would pull my uncle's 4 bottom Oliver drag plow 16 inch just fine but struggled with my dad's 3 bottom 16 inch jolhn Deere plow that mouted on 3 point hitch how a hated that damned plow as I did 95 percent of the plowing it was to straight up and pushed the sod instead of lifthing it then rolling it over jolhndeere should've had to replace those junk plows with ones that worked better,!My brouther still has it he said a 4020 will pull it ok but its still junk more of a bulldozer ripper than a plow!!
@@michaelrichter8973 Here's the answer to the debate, how big of plow depends on two things, the soil type/condition and how deep. There is only so much hp and so much weight, throw in the superior AC traction control, and it all depends on how hard the dirt pushes back. Dry sandy soil a correctly set 7 bottom is probably about right. But some heavy black or clay loam soil, a 5 bottom will give it all it wants.
We used fluid in the tires of our Allis 200 for this reason. Allis made such capable tractors, more than the HP numbers would lead one to believe
That would be calcium and water
I totally agree!
One of AC s
Great one's looks great💥💥💥👍👍
Agree 💯!
Probably the best tractor ac made ever!
One of many
Big muscle allis ya can't go wrong better believe it
@@RJ1999x Deal on 200 went sour. Sold for 4300. Guy said it stayed in gear. Vid had it in first and reverse only. I asked for a vid of all gears and the hi lo being shifted. Never happened. Looked at a 7000 next. Hydraulic issue cropped up and now tractor won't move. I guess I am paranoid but I have no need for someone else's misfortune. Now on to a 7020 with PD trans. Needs interior. There are plenty of well cared for but have faded paint needing tires out there of many brands. I will find one. The chase is but part of the fun!
@@thegreenerthemeaner $4300 wasn't bad, we redid a 200 back in 1997ish for 2 brothers when they died it sold on the auction in 2005 for 27000
@@RJ1999x It had a cab but they took it off and put 190XT fenders on it, no weights and had just got the brakes replaced. He was kind of vague I thought about giving answers. I am guessing that there was more to go and he thought this was a good place to let go of it. This 7020 is a one owner.
The very first allis chalmers tractor to come out with 100 plus horsepower.
Probably one of the first 100+ HP tractors ever.
I love all the old tractors!!
We had the same setup, AC D-21 with the 7 bottom plow, that D-21 would walk the dog all day long.
The 9000 series plow with 7 bottoms (notice it is 5 bottoms with the optional sixth and seventh added on) was made to be pulled by the D-21. With 7 bottoms the tractor was able to drive on flat ground (the two right tires outside the furrow)
jonelsonster It’s not just the number of bottoms but the width too 7, 16’s is gonna pull a lot different than say 7, 18’s...
That looks like a series 1 d21 without the turbo. I think they had about 100 horsepower. Series 2 was more like 130 horse and that had the turbo
It belongs to another guy in our club, so I'm not 100% sure, but I thought it was a Series II. If you look closely at thre hood, back by the driver, you can almost make out the writing:
"Series II
Turbocharged
Diesel"
But I'll double check next time I see him.
Thanks for the comment.
@@jonelsonster , I stand corrected.
Our D-21 Would walk the dog with a 7 bttm plow! this plow just needs adjusted correctly !
do you that the dry hard ass ground had anything to do with it?
Get it on good level with tractor on 2 blocks to replicate depth and adjust accordingly it's nothing new
Sod cutters or coulters really.make a difference in how a plow does,i once took mine off to plow corn stubble,thinking to make the plow somewhat lighter in wieght an give better trash clearance!what a mistake on my part they did a pretty fair job of ripping but it didnt resemble plowing,so i put em back on!Hah,lesson,s learned!
The problem looks like the plow isn't set, doesn't look like the moldboards are scoured either its not rolling its pushing, that's why the 21 is fighting
bread and better ploughing
Got to set it up correct and tip your plow
Plow NOT set up right. Looks like coulters are not lining up with mould boards correctly the way dirt is coming around the sides of them. Get it set correctly and it will pull 2x easier with a better job of rolling the furrow over
Yes, as some have pointed out, the plow needed adjustment. This was the first time this plow had been used since putting it back together. But you can't get it adjusted correctly until you actually try it out.
Put duals on it,your traction issue will be solved.
Or heavier wheel weights.
D21 allis-chalmers are equivalent to 50 10 but mine d a d but my dad operated the 5010 John Deere but when the season was over dad drove my tractor so we got rid of the Long Green Line
I run a 7040 PS boosted to 150 HP on the dyno and a 5 /16 monobeam 2000 and I pull in 3rd low set at 8 to 10 inches in Ohio clay... NO dials 20.8 tires and she just walks away with it... I can pull in 4th but it will beat your teeth put...
We just did 10 acres plus of sod that hadn't seen any fitting in over 20 years... You can see any grass and about lay a 2x4 across the field level...
You adjust em right AC plows are unmatched!!!
Ground seems too wet in enough places that he needs to wait a couple of days before trying to use that turning plow on it. Love that D 21. It will really pull. With this rig he may want to put duals wheels on the back.
Yes, some areas were quite wet. Ideally we would have waited a few days. But, this was at our club's fall plow day and we either went out and plowed (despite the wet soil conditions) or it was going to be cancelled. We chose to go out and try.
@@jonelsonster Certainly understand. I'm envious of you folks having that great big D 21. I always wanted to drive one. Biggest one I ever drove, and I drove it a lot, was the XT 190 Diesel. Fine tractor. Very best to you and the farmers everywhere in this upcoming crop season.
Hard to tell from the video but the hitch does not appear to be in front of the center of resistance. It looks like the hitch can be moved one slot more to the land side to balance the pull. Too much pull to the furrow side will cock the plow and the land side resistance will vastly increase and stick the plow. That's my guess.
need to drop one of them plows.
Rear gauge wheel is not on the plow. Controls depth at rear of plow. Ran one behind 190XT for years.
I love the old D series AC tractors but agree with others. You would have got more accomplished with a 5 bottom plow.
Gerald: You really hit the nail on the head. Unbolt 2 plow bottoms and do a good job plowing, rather than trying to skim across the surface. He is not even covering over the sod.
That's dry by UK standards..also he's only ploughing 4-6 in deep?
It’s a plow day and not actual field work. It’s pretty typical to plow shallow at plow days
make that ole AC work a bit.....really cool tho...nice video...thanks!!
It's certainly not set quite. Were it set in, that big old tractor would walk that plow.
The plow needs to be leveled up , the front is higher than the back bottoms . This operation is a mess , PERIOD .
Yes, there are adjustments that need to be made. You must have missed when I said this was his first time playing with this tractor and plow combo. It's impossible to get it set up perfectly straight out of the gate. PERIOD.
Should've waited another two days and let it dry, totally senseless if you can't keep it in the ground
I believe the tractor has it ,may need water in the wheel s.
Almost to much for the ole girl Slightest slip and sidewall fold
SheeeerDIGGINNNN
Set the plow better. Reduce landslide pressure
With only 2WD it seems a little bit to heavy for the D21. But nevertheless a nice tractor
Whoa now that’s big muscle allis
Take off a few bottoms.....sounds good, but can't pull.
Allis chalmers was never known for making good tillage equipment
Lol at least a allis chalmers disk would go in the ground non like john deere 😂
@@donawayfarms5419 sorry.......had one for 2 years with new blades and bearings .....it needed a service truck to follow it.
It almost sounds like a JD
Yeah, those big 6 cylinder diesels skins so smooth.
Wheat ?
Where is this location?
Need to reset plow put her in 5th gear open her up
Too much plow for that tractor 5 would be better
Yes, you're probably right. Maybe with duals or a little sandier soil I think this d21 would pull 7 bottoms all day long.
Nice tractor ...........but fuckin hell
Must not of had any fluid in the tires, or weights it was spining to much, the tires wouldn't last a year!!
Too much plow for the tractor. 5 bottom and correctly set that tractor would handle it
Bullshit a d 21 will handle a 7 bottom fine it needs set it's not turning dod it's pushing it my dad had a davidbrown 990 that would pull my uncle's 4 bottom Oliver drag plow 16 inch just fine but struggled with my dad's 3 bottom 16 inch jolhn Deere plow that mouted on 3 point hitch how a hated that damned plow as I did 95 percent of the plowing it was to straight up and pushed the sod instead of lifthing it then rolling it over jolhndeere should've had to replace those junk plows with ones that worked better,!My brouther still has it he said a 4020 will pull it ok but its still junk more of a bulldozer ripper than a plow!!
@@michaelrichter8973 Here's the answer to the debate, how big of plow depends on two things, the soil type/condition and how deep. There is only so much hp and so much weight, throw in the superior AC traction control, and it all depends on how hard the dirt pushes back. Dry sandy soil a correctly set 7 bottom is probably about right. But some heavy black or clay loam soil, a 5 bottom will give it all it wants.
Maybe let that dry out a day or so?
Plowing too deep also
Do a better job if you dropped a couple of
Bottom line......he can't pull a 7 bottom plow! Just making a mess out of the field.
Plows to big for that tractor
Agree - on hard ground 7 18s too much for a D21. Light sandy soil it would be fine.
To much plow for the that tractor - 5 or 3 max - suggestion
Frame 1:35, get out of the field if your tractor can't pull the plows you brought, instead screwing the ground.
You are not a very positive person. We are trying to have a fun time.
jonelsonster realism is more important than positivity
You must have a JD not surprised
Our D-21 Would walk the dog with a 7 bttm plow! this plow just needs adjusted correctly !