Very interesting to hear how many iterations the silicon as well as the board layout itself went through, the Pi 5's new architecture sounds very nice for future adaptions and a vast improvement over the Pi 4's. I am still using a Pi 2 and a Pi 3 for my little projects (because of the shortages and price hikes) but they still work fine, just a little underpowered by today's standards. But any raspberry pi is alot better than the BBC micros of days past that lots of us learnt about computers on! 🙂 Keep up the great work peeps, onward and upward always!
I’d like to see a project where, since it is the same chip, one can take a pico and build a board that turns a pico into a pi3 or 4 or even a 5. Like schematic and parts needed with the code as a project , now that would be impressive.
I'd love to hear more about the PIO hardware in the RP1. Knowing that they got an x86 platform to run with the RP1 suggests they may offer the RP1 for sale as a separate chip. This was a real deep dive and much appreciated.
So... since the audio jack is gone. Can we get the analog sound out through the GPIO pins (L/R/-ve)? I think many of us still have monitors without audio.
I'm enjoying these videos. It's interesting to hear about the complexity and the challenges that have gone into designing RP1 and ultimately the Raspberry Pi 5.
It's great to hear about engineering the RP1 but I'm somewhat surprised it's needed. Most SoCs seem to be getting more and more integrated with little or no ancillary IO silicon required (especially for common functions like SPI, GPIO, Ethernet, etc). It seems seems Broadcom (and RPi) are going in the opposite direction to most SoC vendors - more similar to a PC architecture with a southbridge. I can only assume this approach is driven by Broadcom removing much of the peripheral hardware from their SoCs but it would be interesting to hear how the RPI foundation foresaw the need for the RP1 and what drives the need for a southbridge type design.
I worked with a guy with the same personality (as in towards work) and he would sometimes ask me a question and I knew he was asking/probing/testing my know how. Dont get me wrong I loved working with him, someone to lookup to in the workplace. I bet any money Eben is the same. It must be great to work with someone who KNOWS his stuff and believes in it. I ordered mine, thanks lads.
Good job, great product, can't wait to see what people, and devs come up with. I hope availability is better this time around, seems like a very capable, and competent machine. I'm also looking forward to the pico 2, and Zero 3.
So the capability of the RP1 chip is constrained by the space & power constraints of the Raspberry PI 5 form factor? So will the Raspberry Pi organisation be producing a larger form factor such a Mini-ATX mother board that can be dropped into existing PC cases? If not will the Raspberry Pi RP1 be available for third parties to produce the latter?
What is RP1 cost? Does it have PIO? Maybe the equivalent of a RP2040 so you could do some GPIO stuff semi independently of the Main processor? And will you sell it separately, so people can put it on a PCI card etc?
Did I understand this correctly? Would it be possible, to get an RP1 as a PCIe Card to get regular GPIO on any Desktop computer? Also the extra USB would be great. It should be a fairly cheap card, considering the price of the whole Pi 5
first? great discussion. keep them coming. suggestion: add text and graphics to the screen that relate to the points you make. it helps us lesser mortals. thankyou
Is it actually a possibility todo pin mappings to the gpio’s like changing the bus? I guess not in this silicone? The gpio interface would have been nice from the rp2040..
The RP 5 is pretty much perfect. The only missing opportunity is that the Ethernet port wasn't upgraded to 2.5G. Because together with an NVME it would make the RP 5 the perfect small home server for everyone.
Very interesting, thanks! It sounds the RP1 design could allow future versions of Raspberry Pi to switch away from Broadcom processors, and possibly even from Arm! Also the thought of a PCIE card with RP1 that could make any Linux PC into a Pi-like machine is exciting! Just saying…
Super interesting information about RP1 I would love to see some custom solutions with RP1 in PCIe card form factor Will RP1 chip be available for purchase as separate thing?
Really enjoyed this talk about the Raspberry silicon thanks to all, no one has mentioned the memory usage, is the Raspberry Pi 5 happy with 4gb to run most applications and what are the main advantages for 8gb? I have ordered 8gb
Before watching. Yes RP1 Details. I’m way more interested in the RP1 than the Pi5 itself. I still debating to get a Pi5. I still have a ZeroW Pi3 and Pi4 collecting dust as I tend to use microcontrollers for embedded systems stuff. BTW still love the RP2040. I develop on it at work and use many many of it special features.
I saw the RP1 bringup and test board with the PCIe edge connector and I thought, would be pretty funny if someone took that card and put that in a Pine64 RockPro64 or something so you have exactly RPi GPIO and extra USB on a different SBC lol. Honestly, the RP1 as a USB + Ethernet + GPIO controller on an X86 motherboard is pretty interesting.
The features on the RP1 make me hoepful that the Raspberry Pi could go UP from a single board computer to a full fledged Mini-ITX motherboard with a SO-DIMM socket and all connectivity options exposed. Users could then swap components, as upgrades become available.
Love listening to Eben. The longer he talks, the deeper his voice gets
I love the level of technical discussion and insights into various tradeoffs.
22:22 hmm, X86 RP1... a new drop-in product we could use to get Pi interfaces on a PC? :)
A good discussion on the insides of the development process. Thank you guys for the valuable effort.
Thank you Jason Statham for working on Raspberry Pis😅😂
Well done, gentlemen! Best wishes for continued success!!
I love the growth in the organization.
Very interesting to hear how many iterations the silicon as well as the board layout itself went through,
the Pi 5's new architecture sounds very nice for future adaptions and a vast improvement over the Pi 4's.
I am still using a Pi 2 and a Pi 3 for my little projects (because of the shortages and price hikes) but they still
work fine, just a little underpowered by today's standards. But any raspberry pi is alot better than the BBC
micros of days past that lots of us learnt about computers on! 🙂
Keep up the great work peeps, onward and upward always!
I’d like to see a project where, since it is the same chip, one can take a pico and build a board that turns a pico into a pi3 or 4 or even a 5. Like schematic and parts needed with the code as a project , now that would be impressive.
I'd love to hear more about the PIO hardware in the RP1. Knowing that they got an x86 platform to run with the RP1 suggests they may offer the RP1 for sale as a separate chip. This was a real deep dive and much appreciated.
The RP1 has PIO like the RP2040?
From what I've heard, it's pretty much just rp2040 PIO with deeper FIFOs
So... since the audio jack is gone. Can we get the analog sound out through the GPIO pins (L/R/-ve)? I think many of us still have monitors without audio.
I'm enjoying these videos. It's interesting to hear about the complexity and the challenges that have gone into designing RP1 and ultimately the Raspberry Pi 5.
Really loving these deep dive videos
It's great to hear about engineering the RP1 but I'm somewhat surprised it's needed. Most SoCs seem to be getting more and more integrated with little or no ancillary IO silicon required (especially for common functions like SPI, GPIO, Ethernet, etc).
It seems seems Broadcom (and RPi) are going in the opposite direction to most SoC vendors - more similar to a PC architecture with a southbridge. I can only assume this approach is driven by Broadcom removing much of the peripheral hardware from their SoCs but it would be interesting to hear how the RPI foundation foresaw the need for the RP1 and what drives the need for a southbridge type design.
Can't wait to all this new projects with the Pi5!
"Analogue television" YESSSSSSSSSS
Thanks for that one, Eben Upton!!
it would be cool if they released a pcie card with the rp1 on it
I worked with a guy with the same personality (as in towards work) and he would sometimes ask me a question and I knew he was asking/probing/testing my know how. Dont get me wrong I loved working with him, someone to lookup to in the workplace. I bet any money Eben is the same. It must be great to work with someone who KNOWS his stuff and believes in it. I ordered mine, thanks lads.
Thanks for capturing your design decisions.
Thanks for the discussion. Looking forward to trying it out.
I am so jealous of the attention you are paying to the design and development process...
Thanks for the great discussion. It’s interesting to know more of the details of the design and process. 👍
I cannot wait to get my hands on one! Great work guys!😀
Great stuff. Filled my acronym quota in the first five minutes 😆
can we add an av1 decoder please?
Good job, great product, can't wait to see what people, and devs come up with. I hope availability is better this time around, seems like a very capable, and competent machine. I'm also looking forward to the pico 2, and Zero 3.
Congrats to the RPI Engineering Team!
What was the thinking around removing the hardware video encoding? Thanks for your work
“This is the raspberrypiness of the raspberry pi packed into a single piece of silicon”
So the capability of the RP1 chip is constrained by the space & power constraints of the Raspberry PI 5 form factor?
So will the Raspberry Pi organisation be producing a larger form factor such a Mini-ATX mother board that can be dropped into existing PC cases?
If not will the Raspberry Pi RP1 be available for third parties to produce the latter?
Now you're teasing us with x86 Pi. Will RP1 be available to buy for other board makers?
So if I'm correct, you could theoretically route VGA out to the GPIO and connect this with, say, a VGA hat?
I would like to see the rp1 as a PCI-E board for any PC. This would make prototyping really convenient.
Really Cool!
Also How many MIPI cameras can i connect to the Pi 5 simultaneously
just imagine the projects you could make with 2 or more cameras
No mentions about the arm cores in the RPI1? and the PIO block?
Cant wait to get my PI 5
What is RP1 cost?
Does it have PIO? Maybe the equivalent of a RP2040 so you could do some GPIO stuff semi independently of the Main processor?
And will you sell it separately, so people can put it on a PCI card etc?
“The amount of time you spend talking on small teams is more than linearly better”. Nice
Are you going to make the RP1 available for third parties in bulk for their non-raspi products, similar to how you make the available?
Did I understand this correctly?
Would it be possible, to get an RP1 as a PCIe Card to get regular GPIO on any Desktop computer?
Also the extra USB would be great. It should be a fairly cheap card, considering the price of the whole Pi 5
FANTASTIC
first?
great discussion. keep them coming.
suggestion: add text and graphics to the screen that relate to the points you make. it helps us lesser mortals.
thankyou
Bold move to make an IC the size of a birthday cake.
How much current can the GPIO pins handle compared to a "old" Pi 4?
Fascinating
Is it actually a possibility todo pin mappings to the gpio’s like changing the bus? I guess not in this silicone?
The gpio interface would have been nice from the rp2040..
Are you plane to sell RP1 separately ? it can very handy on other domains like PC.
An interesting evolution of the SBC frameworks. I wonder if others follow this idea.
Are we gonna get a Raspberry Pi 500 soon?
really love a mechanical keyboard if we do get a pi 500
informative, thankyou!
Is there a stand-alone PCIe card using RP1 ?
How does this video have no comments yet? 😂 Thanks for all the info guys. Cheers on the RP5 launch!
Q: can a arm64 device get lots of fast pcie lanes?
The RP 5 is pretty much perfect. The only missing opportunity is that the Ethernet port wasn't upgraded to 2.5G. Because together with an NVME it would make the RP 5 the perfect small home server for everyone.
I’d love to see a PCIe card with RP1 on it!
Very interesting, thanks! It sounds the RP1 design could allow future versions of Raspberry Pi to switch away from Broadcom processors, and possibly even from Arm! Also the thought of a PCIE card with RP1 that could make any Linux PC into a Pi-like machine is exciting! Just saying…
Very Nice
Bravo Gentlemen !
Super interesting information about RP1
I would love to see some custom solutions with RP1 in PCIe card form factor
Will RP1 chip be available for purchase as separate thing?
How many people worked on the in-house silicon and Raspberry Pi 5 in general ?
Is there reason that th RP1 does not have an ADC like the 2040 ? This would have been a good addition for many projects.
Really enjoyed this talk about the Raspberry silicon thanks to all, no one has mentioned the memory usage, is the Raspberry Pi 5 happy with 4gb to run most applications and what are the main advantages for 8gb? I have ordered 8gb
Before watching. Yes RP1 Details. I’m way more interested in the RP1 than the Pi5 itself. I still debating to get a Pi5. I still have a ZeroW Pi3 and Pi4 collecting dust as I tend to use microcontrollers for embedded systems stuff. BTW still love the RP2040. I develop on it at work and use many many of it special features.
I can only hope for an upgrade board for the RPi 400.
"Project Y". Presumably there was a Project X? Following the footsteps of Acorn's Project A and Project B?
Hoping one day we get a “Pro” Pi product on a board the size of the CM4 I/O product to allow for full size HDMI ports, NVMe slot, etc. as standard.
Why was PCIe 2 selected instead of 3?
I ❤ raspberry pi.
I saw the RP1 bringup and test board with the PCIe edge connector and I thought, would be pretty funny if someone took that card and put that in a Pine64 RockPro64 or something so you have exactly RPi GPIO and extra USB on a different SBC lol.
Honestly, the RP1 as a USB + Ethernet + GPIO controller on an X86 motherboard is pretty interesting.
Maybe if they make the chip separately available, other board vendors will start including it in their board, who knows!
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This is great and awesome I would recommend that you make 1 with 16GB RAM board
When you have Jason Statham in your team, he should be the one answering questions, not asking! :D
The features on the RP1 make me hoepful that the Raspberry Pi could go UP from a single board computer to a full fledged Mini-ITX motherboard with a SO-DIMM socket and all connectivity options exposed. Users could then swap components, as upgrades become available.
It could now be called Raspberry Si?
1:29 Why am I watching Jason Statham talk about RPis? 🤔
damn the wait is finnaly over
nice
jason statham sounds posher than i remember
I've always liked Jason Statham's accent!
Came here for Jason Statham; was not disappointed.
PiBook with the Pi1 CPU when?)
i never knew jason statham was so into rpi :P
Like number 286. #nostalgia
For some reason he reminds me of batman.
The guy interviewing should just interview himself since he seems to know everything.
Shoulda called it the RPVIA
Jason Statham knows the internals of pi5?
Would have been interesting if they forgot to take the FPGA off the board and invented Pi MiSTer 😅
is this Jason Statham interviewing?