MIG Welding Travel Speed vs Stick Welding Travel speed
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Wire fed welding processes like short circuit mig, spray mig, and dual shield flux core have very wide ranges of travel speeds.
Stick welding, while a very good welding process, has a much narrower range of travel speed.
Stick welding excels outdoors, for pipe welding, and one off welds or repairs.
But for production, wire fed processes can make you a lot more money.
Especially bare wire where this is no slag to chip and almost no cleanup.
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I worked 34 years in a fire protection pipe fab shop. Used MIG process 99.8 % of the time. You can get great penetration with wire, especially with the spray arc process. Great videos sir. Keep them up.
When i first learned GMAW in school, our settings were 19 volts 220 IPM w/ .035 wire. The technique was just a back and forth stitch. Single and multi-pass. Our instructor didn't want circles.
A lot of heat input in circles
I learned that when I was working in the mines guy called it back washin
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Back in the piece work days our machines had high speed motors that topped out at 1435ipm. We ran C10 gas with .035 wire with dual schedule triggers. My low speed was about 800ipm @ 27.5 volts and high speed at 1100ipm @ 30.5 volts. Oh and this was on 7 or 10ga steel and it had to be leakproof. Fun times.
If you are running a gas mix with 80% argon you can go spray arc and get much faster again, my go to gas is an argon mix with 16% CO2 and 3% oxygen, with this mix I can do short arc, spray arc and also run my favorite dual shield flux core (E71T-12M H4) which requires between 10-25% CO2
😎 great video Jodi
Thanks Jody good video!
Heat input on first 1.3 kJ/mm
Faster weld 0.9 kJ/mm
Not much more heat. But could be a key element on high strength steels.
What gas did you use?
Depending on thickness, stainless, the speed is totally different. Stainless arc is slower by far. Pulse is faster with mild. Yet, I feel arc is stronger with mild. Not stainless
We're held to pretty tight travel speed, as well as the rest of the parameters like amperage and voltage, to keep our heat inputs and thus cooling rates in a narrow band. Materials research
@@highlyalloyed9296 that’s interesting. I had an inspector use a stopwatch once to check my speed on a stainless pipe weld. It was on the WPS but hardly ever enforced and it kinda hard to comply with in field conditions
@@weldingtipsandtricksevery pass in a SMAW welding PQR submission for NAVSEA procedure, had to be documented with travel speed, material temp, and a documented map of how the beads were placed. It was a lot of data for 100+ beads for a 3" thick weld coupon!
@foundryman1985 NAVSEA is who I work for. Every pass documented, bead stack diagram like you mentioned, preheat and interpass temps, spool heat number, etc.
We use a couple different weld data acquisition units to capture our data fortunately so there's no need for someone with a stopwatch watching the readout on the power source lol
@weldingtipsandtricks yeah even with a steady hand it's hard to hit tight callouts on travel speed sometimes. A lot of our stuff is done on a sidebeam or robot so it's easier for us. More repeatability and consistent data
@@highlyalloyed9296 This was for qualifying a repair process for steel casting repair at the steel foundry I worked at. We didn't have much fancy equipment, so someone had to monitor the welder and document all of the passes. I did have to perform some heat input calculations to show we didn't exceed the heat input allowed. It had been awhile since I had to work in kJ/hr! Quite the process to get approved!
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Hello Jody, I welded in a small shop in San Bernardino, CA. We regularly almost on the daily weld on a turntable positioner and we use spray arc and get a really ice flat weld and some pretty good penetration. Can you show show a video on that. We run at our Miller 302 machine around 28v and 600-650 ipm welding a 2” tube to a 1/4” 6x6 steel plate.
@@bigpappas65ss I will put that on my list. Thanks
@@weldingtipsandtricks I’m a big fan and learn quite a lot from your videos. 👍🏽
What the hell size wire are you using???
@@jedhatcher252 we run .035
If you preheat it up a lot would that help on penetration
Good Stuff
Are you running argon or gold gas?
What etching solution was used? It worked instantly.
The etching solution is usually 5% nitric acid.
I go so fast when mig welding I usually shock ppl ... when I switch over to stick welding I get so annoyed sometimes because of the slow travel speed...and it's constant electrode burnoff... whereas in mig I'm so use to long and short arcing due to the heat index of my puddle...
Now switch to something more productive. Select arc 70c-6 .052 diameter, 350 ipm and 27-29 volts using c-10 shield gas.
Interesting 👍
I would turn the rpm up and push it
I dont get why you insistently use short circuit when you could use globular or spray even on thinner materials ?
Short circuit is what the vast majority of hobbyist welders will be running. I'm not even sure spray transfer is possible on a 110v machine like what most people would have at home.