Well done Sbn. Tang Soo. I studied Tang Soo Doo with SBN Pablo Vangas, SBN Jose Vangas, KJN Pablo Vangas back in early 00's made it too second Dan. Thank you for doing this video makes me want to practice my hyungs again.
Your last comment struck me, as when I looked up the video (right after my class tonight) and batting the spelling, I thought I heard my KSN say Ee Ro. I was wondering why he would be teaching the 2nd form first. I almost blew past this video thinking that I was ahead of myself. Thanks for mentioning the order in which these forms are taught. I really appreciate your series. I know their are differences between SBD and TSD, but I still find the videos extremely helpful!
LOL! Yeah, it's easy to run across several different spellings of Korean words. Did you happen to ask why the SBD teaches the second Chil Sung first? I am curious, as to what students are told. You are going to find minor differences even amongst the instructors in the SBD if you watch carefully, just human nature. I am happy to know they are helpful, thanks for watching!
Great walk-thru/how to. Ko mop sum ni da & TANG SOO! I was a TSD student in the ‘70-‘80’s before the Chil-Sung & Yuk Ryo forms were formally introduced to the curriculum. IMHO, it was a watershed moment that created so many orphaned schools and students along with disparate associations and federation. It was interesting and somewhat excited to learn the Chul-Sung forms as a 2d & 3rd Dan but it was sad to no longer see some schools and students from other schools that left the GM Hwang Kee’s MDK. That said, here’s the Um and Yang of it. This business political decision perhaps gave GM Hwang Kee the inner peace of truly making MDK a unique style other than a critically viewed Korean refined kicking version of Japanese Shotokan. Perhaps he felt the urge as many Korean people to erase the Japanese occupation impressions and reconnect to a heritage that was nearly if not extinguished. This moved further orphaned MDK students like in the ‘60’s when Korean government directed the consolidation towards TKD and even later with unification to eliminate the Kwans within TKD. The iconic MDK colored trim adopted by GM Hwang Kee certainly drew great popularity amongst the Korean people and his desire to anchor his style towards the roots of the Hwa Rang soldiers of the Korean Silla dynasty rather than Chinese Tang dynasty and Okinawa’s Gichin Funakoski. This again, um and yang movement has created many arts of MDK- TSD, SBD, and TKD… it would be interesting to know if there are any Hwa Soo Do students today.
Thank you very much! SBD practitioners tend to not like my Chil Sung videos because I do the hyung a little differently than they do currently. An interesting perspective and opinion on Tang Soo Do's dysfunctional history. I doubt there are any active Hwa Soo Do left, considering the rough start it had out of the gate. If there were even that many that wanted to stick with it considering that the name and style only existed for a couple of years, then KJN Hwang Kee did a hard reset knowing the Hwa Soo Do wasn't going to make it during that time period, but as you know, TSDMDK took off and grew quickly. Thanks again for watching, Tang Soo!👊
@@Rockholdkarate I truly respect and appreciate your contribution to the art and style. I'm sure you chose to do it for many reasons and a deep love of it was on the top of the list... though I left the TSD path in pursuit of the Olympic dreams in Barcelona and Seoul, I was lucky enough to find a tkd-MDK instructor and found lots of commonality between the two... ultimately, the sport aspect and old age drove me to physical retirement, however I still continue to spectate from the spiritual and internal power aspect as well as the historical. I don't think many students understand the wicked driving force of Japanese occupation and WWII driving GM Hwang Kee to leave his homeland to Manchuria. By happenstance, he found Mr. Yang to learn more of the softer characteristics to balance the hard ones forced by Japanese rule upon his return. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to truly express his art due to dictatorship and communism with the Korean conflict/civil war. In some aspects, I can only speculate that the export of TSD to the USA and his son, now leader of the World MDK, H.C. Hwang, whom I was a brief student and was a test examiner on many of my trials, was the primary reason why it lives today... along with GM Song Ki Kim and the likes of Mstr Donny Meadows… as we say, 'Merica! We, as a Americans don't understand the freedom and protection our Constitution provides that simply doesn't anywhere else... I've certainly digressed into a tangent, I'm sure you'd rather not dive into so thank you for your time and patience... Thank you again for what you do... SEMPER FIDELIS & TANG SOO!!!
Very cool! At what rank did you learn Chil Sung Il Ro Hyung? Did you learn Chil Sung Ee Ro at the same rank or at a later one? Thank you and thanks for watching!
Might be able to do a quick video at demonstration speed before the end of the year. The "How to" video is on the schedule for 2021. Thanks for watching!
@@Rockholdkarate I think it is 2nd Gup. I know it’s a stripe rank after red belt. Can you do a video on Chil Sung Sam Ro Hyung? I struggle with it a lot and I need help
Well done Sbn. Tang Soo. I studied Tang Soo Doo with SBN Pablo Vangas, SBN Jose Vangas, KJN Pablo Vangas back in early 00's made it too second Dan. Thank you for doing this video makes me want to practice my hyungs again.
Awesome! Sir, thank you. More please.
Thank you for watching! That is the plan. Trying to get to one video a week.
As a UK TSDF Red Belt who has just started learning this form, the video was really helpful :)
Excellent! I am glad you found this video helpful and thank you for watching!👊
Back looking at the video again, as now I am preparing for my Cho Dan test.
Thanks for watching! You got this!👊
Well done Sbn. Tang Soo. I studied Tang Soo Doo with SBN Pablo Vangas, SBN Jose Vangas, KJN Pablo Vangas back in early 00's made it too second Dan. Thank you for doing this video makes me want to practice my hyungs again.
Very cool! Thanks for watching! That is awesome to know the video inspired you, really appreciate the comment!
Your last comment struck me, as when I looked up the video (right after my class tonight) and batting the spelling, I thought I heard my KSN say Ee Ro. I was wondering why he would be teaching the 2nd form first. I almost blew past this video thinking that I was ahead of myself. Thanks for mentioning the order in which these forms are taught. I really appreciate your series. I know their are differences between SBD and TSD, but I still find the videos extremely helpful!
LOL! Yeah, it's easy to run across several different spellings of Korean words. Did you happen to ask why the SBD teaches the second Chil Sung first? I am curious, as to what students are told. You are going to find minor differences even amongst the instructors in the SBD if you watch carefully, just human nature. I am happy to know they are helpful, thanks for watching!
Thank you Sa Bom Nihm.
You are welcome! Thank you for watching!
Great walk-thru/how to. Ko mop sum ni da & TANG SOO!
I was a TSD student in the ‘70-‘80’s before the Chil-Sung & Yuk Ryo forms were formally introduced to the curriculum.
IMHO, it was a watershed moment that created so many orphaned schools and students along with disparate associations and federation. It was interesting and somewhat excited to learn the Chul-Sung forms as a 2d & 3rd Dan but it was sad to no longer see some schools and students from other schools that left the GM Hwang Kee’s MDK.
That said, here’s the Um and Yang of it. This business political decision perhaps gave GM Hwang Kee the inner peace of truly making MDK a unique style other than a critically viewed Korean refined kicking version of Japanese Shotokan. Perhaps he felt the urge as many Korean people to erase the Japanese occupation impressions and reconnect to a heritage that was nearly if not extinguished. This moved further orphaned MDK students like in the ‘60’s when Korean government directed the consolidation towards TKD and even later with unification to eliminate the Kwans within TKD.
The iconic MDK colored trim adopted by GM Hwang Kee certainly drew great popularity amongst the Korean people and his desire to anchor his style towards the roots of the Hwa Rang soldiers of the Korean Silla dynasty rather than Chinese Tang dynasty and Okinawa’s Gichin Funakoski. This again, um and yang movement has created many arts of MDK- TSD, SBD, and TKD… it would be interesting to know if there are any Hwa Soo Do students today.
Thank you very much! SBD practitioners tend to not like my Chil Sung videos because I do the hyung a little differently than they do currently. An interesting perspective and opinion on Tang Soo Do's dysfunctional history. I doubt there are any active Hwa Soo Do left, considering the rough start it had out of the gate. If there were even that many that wanted to stick with it considering that the name and style only existed for a couple of years, then KJN Hwang Kee did a hard reset knowing the Hwa Soo Do wasn't going to make it during that time period, but as you know, TSDMDK took off and grew quickly. Thanks again for watching, Tang Soo!👊
@@Rockholdkarate I truly respect and appreciate your contribution to the art and style. I'm sure you chose to do it for many reasons and a deep love of it was on the top of the list... though I left the TSD path in pursuit of the Olympic dreams in Barcelona and Seoul, I was lucky enough to find a tkd-MDK instructor and found lots of commonality between the two... ultimately, the sport aspect and old age drove me to physical retirement, however I still continue to spectate from the spiritual and internal power aspect as well as the historical. I don't think many students understand the wicked driving force of Japanese occupation and WWII driving GM Hwang Kee to leave his homeland to Manchuria. By happenstance, he found Mr. Yang to learn more of the softer characteristics to balance the hard ones forced by Japanese rule upon his return. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to truly express his art due to dictatorship and communism with the Korean conflict/civil war. In some aspects, I can only speculate that the export of TSD to the USA and his son, now leader of the World MDK, H.C. Hwang, whom I was a brief student and was a test examiner on many of my trials, was the primary reason why it lives today... along with GM Song Ki Kim and the likes of Mstr Donny Meadows… as we say, 'Merica! We, as a Americans don't understand the freedom and protection our Constitution provides that simply doesn't anywhere else... I've certainly digressed into a tangent, I'm sure you'd rather not dive into so thank you for your time and patience... Thank you again for what you do... SEMPER FIDELIS & TANG SOO!!!
Hello. I was taught Chil Sung Il Ro Hyung and then Chil Sung Ee Ro after. Good video, Thank you
Very cool! At what rank did you learn Chil Sung Il Ro Hyung? Did you learn Chil Sung Ee Ro at the same rank or at a later one? Thank you and thanks for watching!
@@Rockholdkarate I learned Chil Sung Il Ro at around 5th Gup, and then Chil Sung Ee Ro at 1st Gup.
How long have you had your own Do Jang? Were you teaching full time before COVID?
@@AdamKhidir Thanks for sharing that!
@@AdamKhidir I started Rockhold Karate in 2007. I have been teaching full time since 2008ish and still going. Have in-person and online classes.
GreAt instructions can u do Wang Shu
Might be able to do a quick video at demonstration speed before the end of the year. The "How to" video is on the schedule for 2021. Thanks for watching!
where are you located??
My studio is in Texas. Thanks for watching!
I was taught Chil Sung Ill Ro Hyung before Ee Ro
Very cool! At what rank did you learn Chil Sung Il Ro?
@@Rockholdkarate I learned it at Red Gold, ( I don’t know if you have red gold but it’s the rank after Red Belt)
@@carterpksa1929 Not sure what level that is. Sound like it would be 2nd Gup/Geop (sp?)
@@Rockholdkarate I think it is 2nd Gup. I know it’s a stripe rank after red belt. Can you do a video on Chil Sung Sam Ro Hyung? I struggle with it a lot and I need help
@@carterpksa1929 Chil Sung Sam Ro Hyung is in the queue.
Is This For Brown Belt?
Thanks for watching! My students learn this at 7th gup testing for 6th gup.
Well done Sbn. Tang Soo. I studied Tang Soo Doo with SBN Pablo Vangas, SBN Jose Vangas, KJN Pablo Vangas back in early 00's made it too second Dan. Thank you for doing this video makes me want to practice my hyungs again.
Very cool! Thanks for watching! That is awesome to know the video inspired you, really appreciate the comment!