Last Minute Brexit Negotiations: With One Month Left Is a Deal Even Still Possible? - TLDR News
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It's December, meaning there's only one month left until the end of the transition period. So in this video we try to explain what the hell's going on. Why a deal still hasn't been reached, whether there's still time and what this means for the UK & EU.
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The fact that the Brexit video has been delayed multiple times is perfect
@@DrBreadstick clowning street, nice! haven't heard that one
@@DrBreadstick xD haha
Well they delayed it because there's not really anything new to discuss due to no information being made public
Speaks Volumes
Couldn't do it in 4 years, but gonna do it in 1 month...
Sounds like my son doing his homework: couldn't do it for the whole past week but is definitely going to do it 1/2 hour before class. 😉
No minute like the last minute.
Well I got though highschool by only doing my honework before class. So maybe?
@@hentaihaven8552 Hmm, you're either a genius or a lucky moron. Difficult to know.
@@hentaihaven8552 yeah did this till university. But this does not work when you need to do bigger homework.
That panicky last minute rush is really productive
> 5:56
> "Mechanism in place"
> Shows picture of cogs unable to turn
> Sums up the whole brexit process atm
Lol, didn't notice that picture was used here, too.
A no deal only harms the EU! things like fair competition is a sign that EU is scared that the UK is going to be better off as the EU think the UK will be more competitive then EU businesses. UK waters dont belong to the EU! and overall the EU is the one that wants a deal so they can prevent damage to the EU market and economy from competition and the likes. Overall the EU also dont want to make it look like the UK benefited from leaving the EU cause that would encourage countries like poland and italy to leave the collapsing EU market which makes countries suffer in competition by making big EU businesses and companies beat out the smaller companies and businesses in the states of the EU. So its clear the EU is panicking lol who blames them the only reason the EU exist is to mitigate the damages and prevent germany from going into ww2 vibes aside that the EU cracks are showing with it out of date as it cripples smaller countries and eu states in all ways.
@@thelightsilent Phahah that's a good one... Oh you're serious? xD
@@thelightsilent Good luck getting enough cheese and veggies for everyone a month from now then lol
@@thelightsilent you forgot to add ))
I’m British and I don’t trust the Government....not surprised the EU don’t trust our Government either tbh I can’t argue with them 🤷🏻♂️
Whilst i am not from UK i do not trust either my own or EU governments... for pretty similar reasons. i think it dose take 2 to make such a cluster of fuckery out of negotiations.
Pride, Greed and yes ineptitude was probably driving factor on both sides.
Feels like i am watching extended season of "yes (prime), minister" but we do not get the linguistics based commentary for Sir Hamphry or Arthur. for shame.
I am French (i know i know, turns out people DO live in france) and i was Really saddened to see that the UK was being swayed to leave. I obviously wish for strengh to the union, but i was really disapointed overall for how easy it was for the EU to be pushed around by lobbies and foreign nations like russia or china (who are getting free range of purchases and control over state citical infrastructure) and i really fear that a No-deal brexit would lead to china walking in and buying off everything with the overwhelming support of the governement. The EU is in a bad spot overall, but i feel like destroying the little unity we have is just going to open bigger holes for totalitarian states to exploit. Russia holds Germany by the Gas, and china pretty much holds everyone else with ports. That isn't a great situation to be in and a no deal brexit is just going to make things worse.
@@mobiuscoreindustries To be honest, the EU is not on a bad spot, its on a terrible one. Even if it survives the nationalistic and totalitarian waves that weve seen for more than 10 years already it is eventually going to be choked to death without radical reforms.
People focus on Poland and Hungary nowadays, but how many proposals have been vetoed by Greece in the last years because they harmed Chinese investments? What a coincidence that the biggest port in Europe was built by them on Greece. Similar things happened with Portugal, while the US and Russia are promoting anti-EU parties very actively.
The 3 biggest world powers that are not in the EU want it torn to pieces, and it will probably happen if European countries do nothing about it.
@@mobiuscoreindustries Simple solution. Mark the CCP as a terrorist organistation (wich it is!) and take back all the ports for free!
@@-Kayda- per conventional definition only non government organisations can be terrorists. Sure governments can use terror or even terror organisations but this does not make the government a terror organisation.
As an EU citizen... The level play field is much more important than short term economic loss.
Does that mean you're still gonna be an E.U. citizen in a month though? XD
we should want to be competitive with the EU.
Also, sorry but there is no such thing as an "EU citizen" it's not a country.
So, as an European i wonder if we will start ditching english in schools as the second language and we will promote german, french or spanish.(im spanish but our current situation w spanish speaking countries is bad due to the Usa trump administratio fiasco and German seems to be the best option for me at least)
@@OdditiesandRarities yes, like in opening up your markets, removing trade restriction, aligning legal processes, integrating... hang on you had all that already
EU: let's put all the decisions in writing and ratify them
UK: I will stick to the arrangements trust me
EU: yea but it's better to write it down so we can hold each other accountable
UK: you don't trust me, you just want to control me!
EU: I do trust but it's better to have it in writing, that way you can keep me in check as well
UK: you undermine my sovereignty! how dare you!
Yeah. Since looking at power balance it should be the one UK insisting on dispute resolution and enforcement clauses. Since if any one has the power to throw around to just ignore the treaty in this relationship, it is EU. if EU wanted to, it would have the power to tilt the playing field or ignore the agreement and go "what you gonna do about it, we are 7 times bigger than you".
Which EU doesn't since a) it is not in the nature of organization b) member states would raise hell c) all the other treaty partners of EU would raise hell.
Objectively they don't trust us
Sounds like my ex
@@aritakalo8011 d: the EU is a trade empire who's power relies on their word being golden , the EU cannot afford to undermine agreements or it would threaten the value of trade internationally period,
@@H-to-O Bit late dude, But you see we are blessed with a good sense of humour. But yeah Europes reaction has been kinda eye opening. Comments like yours all over the place, basically unashamed racism coming out a lot of Europeans banging on about colonialism and all kinds of shit. Seems like not everyone remembers this thing passed by like less than a 5% majority of the vote. Thanks guys turns out our old people are thick as shit and get their opinions from mr Farrage but you guys wanna just shit on all of us because of it.
He promised us an oven-ready deal and all we have so far is a turkey.
A turkey so raw its still gobbling
Never heard that one before
It was an oven ready deal for leaving, not what happens after. That being said - there's an oven-ready deal for after too, on the EU if they want to take it or not.
The deal is oven-ready, it is the oven that is broken.
@@streaky81 I had an similarly ‘oven ready deal’ when I left my gym. I wanted to take back control of my monthly subscription and not give it to the unelected bureaucrats that run the place. I still wanted to be able to go in a use the treadmill whilst also being allowed in the car park. I told them to take it or leave it. I’ve still not heard back from them. But at least I’ve got fishing as a hobby.
U.K. has spent the last 40 years integrating its economy into continental economy.
Next month, all of this gets thrown away thanks to one red bus.
Why do you WANT to be dominated and integrated into a SINGLE group? There's an entire world to forge a destiny with. Jesus get a grip. You are literally supporting European isolationism and closed markets.
@Leroy Jenkins 2.0 Without a doubt. All they care about is their protectionist club that stifles growth and strangles opportunity. We on the other hand are looking at the entire world as a massive opportunity. Nations in all corners. And indeed, CANZUK.
@@EvenWaysMusic The UK sa SOOOOOOO dominated by the EU that it vetoed multiple decisions, which it could do because it was, you know, a MEMBER of a union, with veto power. The agreement in entering the Union was to respect its standarts and regulations, the UK accepted, and then it didn't like it anymore. You can't have a special place in a union and not repsect the same rules as others countries, so bye bye UK.
It was never bullied, it never lost sovereignty, it just agreed to be part of a political project and then backed out.
"I am moving to Europé. I lose 50 million customers in England,
which is not good. However I get to gain 500 million customers in the EU.
Definitely cannot afford to have trucks sitting in the port at Dover. The rest of Europé is free access. Nobody wants to spend several hours at customs.
If England and US had respected other countries soveriegnty a lot of the world's problems wouldn't e ist.
The freedom to live, work, travel and do business abroad was something which benefited millions.
I am staying that The EU is perfect? Absolutely not. It needs to be more democratic 100% agreed. However I think England is stabbing itself in the back. It had a huge say in the EU and could have helped to make some of those changes.
There is more chance of me becoming the next pope than a deal being struck at the last minute!!!
Boris the pusy cat.
Your holiness. 😅
Let me know if you do become pope… I could use a large group of naïve chumps to do my bidding, and the Brexit crowd will be all used up by then. 😏
@@Aquelll Bless you all, but with my name, I don't think the Church would have me!!! But if I was, I'd pray that brexit would only cause moderate hardship to all!!!!
I'm the bloody pope, not a miracle worker 🤣
@@nomadMik I'd be the pope....not a bloody miracle worker 🤣
So, uh. Remember when No Deal was the vanishingly unlikely outcome?
It was always the most likely outcome due to the lack of areas for negotiation. The rest was public spin and wishful thinking. Set aside all the constructed arguement you have a small party and a big party. the agreement had been more important economy-wise for the smaller party and it therefore has the weaker hand. So the smaller party with the weaker hand have to give more. That is plain and simple.
Ursula von der Leyen saying "trust is good but law is better" is one of the most German things ever said by anyone ever.
At least she's not wrong this time.
She's had some pretty bad takes in her political carrier.
@@philippgabainvonkries5117 I mean, she is wrong. She could have worded it better. "Trust is better than law, but the UK has demonstrated we can't trust them, so law it must be."
@@HansVonMannschaft In God we trust, everything else must be verified, so in international trade deals the Law is paramount. She is just being politically delicate at a sensitive time in the negotiations. Plain talking she is saying sign the god dam agreement mo-fo or else pis# off already.
Germans would trust any politician saying "this isn't a dictatorship". Says a lot about the past century...
@@philipe1502 I would say that just shows what you think about Germans
Boris himself probably watches this channel to try and figure out what's actually going on
...as Trump did before either...
🤣🤣🤣
That would clarify why he is constantly on the wrong foot
Lol
lool :D
5:48 - trust is good among friends. International trade deals are not made between friends, but between business partners.
But we must serious question whether the E U could ever be designated ‘friends’ more especially when now at the last minute they add extras - after closing time, and after Boris has already given a considerable concession on fishing but one with which they are discontented.
@@jamesdouglaswhittaker1811 You can't and you don't. EU and UK are not friends and never will be after Brexit. International trade deals are not for friends. They are for business partners. And those deals should have an arbitrating body to ensure they are followed and penalties for breaching the rules - otherwise they mean nothing.
@@Siriathion You were closer to the truth in your earlier comment. Trade deals are indeed made between business ‘partners’ - better still associates. - partners implies something of a closer relationship perhaps. So why can the E U not just be content with a deal between two (or more ) businessmen(women) ?. In normal business trades that is all that is needed/wanted for a satisfactory transaction. Just a simple trade contract. No politics involved. no politics needed , no need to impose (as in demand) any restrictions outside of the actual ‘ trade’ transaction. Just a simple trade contract as made millions of times daily throughout the world. It is the
E U who has attached demands, is seeking to impose and control areas outside of/external to, any such ‘ trade’ transaction between two businesses.
Every time things go pear shaped in this world the twin sins of greed ( or envy) and bloody politics are at the root. I exclude natural disasters. Most people conveniently forget, or are too young/naive to remember, that the E E C was formed to promulgate trade between neighbouring Nations with the intention/hope/trust that Countries with strong trading ties, would benefit in mutual prosperity and build friendly relationships thus reducing/eliminating Europe’s abysmal record of wars/invading/killing each other. Traders who profit by their mutual trade do not normally kill each other. Traders or anyone else for that matter, who develop connections, mutual ( even slight/non close) ‘friendships’ and respect, generally do not kill each other. It was working fine until some bloody bright sparks ( including a Belgian ex- P M - shades of Verhofstadt) began to develop and expand on the 1944 idea of an economic ‘Reich’ in Europe and proceeded to develop the theme of an economic and political “State” under common control. This more than anything else took the peaceful, practical, mutually prosperous, and successfully working, trading concept out of working mode and into the fantasy la la land of control, standardisation and regulatory stipulations. It is still attempting to bury individualities, identities, traditions, and mould nations into one hermogenous lump, under one central control. Inevitably it opened a can of worms , it bred the power seekers. The first mistake was and remains, the unfair, unbalanced Euro which has caused much inequality creating pain and hardship in some of the ‘equal partners’ while benefitting others who, of course, are resisting any changes. The weak pay. As in most real life situations the strongest tend to have a stronger say in events. So here, it is Germany with France in close attendance. Merkel is the “key business influencer” with Macron seeking to assume that title on her retirement next year. My point is that any such organisation is a breeding ground for the power hungry. And this one is no exception. Brussels produces nothing other than reams of regulations, directives with machine gun like rapidity, yet consumes vast amounts of money while contributing none. The membership partners ‘donate ‘ the cost of Brussels - it’s included in their contributions which means that that considerable cost is not available to be redistributed among the needy. Despite the considerable tariffs the E U garners from the rest of the world, there is always a queue for cash. And some go short.
You are right young man, it is business hard, harsh business - ensuring all. pay their dues, conform to the ever expanding rules regulations and controls administered without any semblance of ‘friendship’. between partners or towards struggling Nations whose needs are overtaken by the need to ‘conform’ to the rules. I feel sorrow for Greece.also for Italy who were left dangling without help until it was realised that if Italy failed then so would French Banks with a knock on effect to German ones also. Even now the massive emergency funds are continue to be withheld because dotted i’s and crossed t’s in the tenets of “business” outweigh the support of partners and friends. Currently there are scraps for preferences between Germany cars and French fish while Hungary with Poland threaten E U vetos.. Always within the E U some mundane strictly “ business” business displaces friendly compromises.
With all that ballast to carry it is little wonder the empirical ship E U is taking water.
"Is not that Europe doesn't trust UK" said after UK is actively trying to break international law with Europe 🤣
A no deal only harms the EU! things like fair competition is a sign that EU is scared that the UK is going to be better off as the EU think the UK will be more competitive then EU businesses. UK waters dont belong to the EU! and overall the EU is the one that wants a deal so they can prevent damage to the EU market and economy from competition and the likes. Overall the EU also dont want to make it look like the UK benefited from leaving the EU cause that would encourage countries like poland and italy to leave the collapsing EU market which makes countries suffer in competition by making big EU businesses and companies beat out the smaller companies and businesses in the states of the EU. So its clear the EU is panicking lol who blames them the only reason the EU exist is to mitigate the damages and prevent germany from going into ww2 vibes aside that the EU cracks are showing with it out of date as it cripples smaller countries and eu states in all ways.
@@thelightsilent It harms both....
@@thelightsilent Comments like this is why most europeans laugh at the english and their brexit.
@@thelightsilent No-deal will also harm the UK - you know that French cheese makers are chomping at the bit to start making and selling Cheddar and Stilton, for example? And they very well could in quantities and prices that will decimate the UK cheese industry.
@@thelightsilent Yeah, what the hell are you smoking? You think the UK needing to pay super high WTO tarriffs on goods it exports to the EU makes them more competitive than the tax free alternatives from inside the EU? Or that goods will now be cheaper from the EU to the UK?
It hurts both but it definitely hurts the UK alot more. They lose access to 27 countries, 3 of which are in the top 5 countries that the UK trades with. The EU loses 1 country, now thats a significant trader partner for the EU, but it hurts them less especially since the effect is spread across 27 countries whereas the UK takes all of that hit by itself.
There is an argument to suggest the EU would try to discourage other states from leaving but they also need to make sure they don't damage themselves a huge amount in the process which is why they want a deal.
I would think its more likely people like Boris etc don't want a deal for their own selfish personal goals, the UK has alot of financial secrecy with tax havens, Farage has trust funds in the Isle of Man, Reese-Mogg puts his money through the Cayman Islands and Singapore. Makes much much more sense they don't want a deal with the UK so they can avoid the scrutiny of the EU and avoid more and more tax and keep their finances more and more secret and do it all from the UK.
The country will suffer but they will personally profit massively, seems like a common behaviour for millionaires or billionaires don't you think? Manipulate the poorer person to suffer more in order to gain more personal wealth.
I don't know about Geopolitical trade negotiations but whenever someone in a relationship argues that "this is about the principle" you can be PRETTY certain that argument isn't going anywhere productive...
When it comes to fishing rights it indeed does come down to principles.
Yes the fishing industry isn't what it used to be whyis that i wonder?🤔
But still, its all about a government prepared to stick up for its country and more importantly it's *people*
Not just wealthy Banksters and Russian oligarchs....
This is why BXT happened in the first place.... inequality..
@@stuartd9741 Valid point it's just hard to negotiate principles. Usually once someone in normal life says 'It's about the principle' they are essentially saying 'I don't like this and I want it to stop!' and are usuall not open to compromise as the base is a feeling not something you want to change or achieve.
Tricky.
@@DarkHarlequin Tricky. indeed.
I understand it's emotional as well as economical.
I certainly wouldn't want to be messers, Frost and Barnier.
Definitely a very difficult situation
Boris's government on the line, the EUs 27 states all with their individual demands cannot be easy.
I am sure a deal will be done at the 11th hour.
There's nothing wrong with supporting the financial sector & foreign investment.
But when it comes to normal everyday [working class] jobs
Government should also be standing firm supporting Those sectors too - even if they're economically small.
Alot of the north feel left behind economically.
It's very easy working/legistlating in London and become London - centric.
And think this is why BXT happened.
Im a southerner btw.
EU: We are sovereign too
UK: How dare you
it's like going full speed into a tunnel which is bricked up at the other end
A no deal only harms the EU! things like fair competition is a sign that EU is scared that the UK is going to be better off as the EU think the UK will be more competitive then EU businesses. UK waters dont belong to the EU! and overall the EU is the one that wants a deal so they can prevent damage to the EU market and economy from competition and the likes. Overall the EU also dont want to make it look like the UK benefited from leaving the EU cause that would encourage countries like poland and italy to leave the collapsing EU market which makes countries suffer in competition by making big EU businesses and companies beat out the smaller companies and businesses in the states of the EU. So its clear the EU is panicking lol who blames them the only reason the EU exist is to mitigate the damages and prevent germany from going into ww2 vibes aside that the EU cracks are showing with it out of date as it cripples smaller countries and eu states in all ways.
But this isn't necessarily in itself bad......tdlr uk
@@thelightsilent you drank all of the kool aide didn't you
@@nathanmckenzie904 nope EU/Germany sold all the work and labour to China even the car industry is being sold to China really that's a lot of EU jobs gone to China cause the higher ups in EU took bribes from China
@@thelightsilent "More competitive" means crap wages, no regulation on business, removal of environmental and safety standards and even more money for the wealthy. In what way will you benefit from this?
Let's be clear here: The time is not sufficient for anything but an incredible shallow deal, that could be agreed on by the EU and not member countries. If it affects the countries inside and needs their vote - forget it. There will be weeks of No-Deal effect on the first of January. And don't expect the national parliaments to be in a rush. At this point, UK citizens shoud better prepare for that and the only question will be, how long the No-Deal scenario will last.
I thonk you are right. And days before we had this surpirse with Poland and Hungary... That trouble has not been fixed.
Well, if we will actually get a last minute deal, it is also possible to postpone the date for the end of the transition period. That's propably the reason, why they're still talking about a deal at this point in time. No way to get everything done with 3 weeks left. Pretty sure they are aware of that.
Or the alternative way that is mentioned in the video, with enacting this new deal and governments ratify it afterwards. But companies and authorities would be left with no time to adjust to those new rules, so I expect the first solution (if we get a deal; I still believe in no-deal).
@@GermanGreetings I agree. Hungarian MEPs going out in Brussels on Friday nights are very surprising & should be fixed.
@@dnocturn84 The Purpose of the EU continuing the talks to this lates rage - and to now the hostile intent in adding further demands yesterday - Is and was always designed to mount time pressure for a ‘panic’ type last ditch settlement to our detriment if a further extension could not be manipulated, But Boris still says no extension & I support him there. I will also support and indeed prefer a No Deal and would take the short term pain for the long term gain. No matter in or out there is pain for both parties. It is foolish to expect otherwise. We and our children will be better on our own. The E U has a bundle of pain ahead if it even survives it’s internal conflicts and massive new debt. I want none of that.
@@jamesdouglaswhittaker1811 There are two parties involved, that are responsible for the continuation of the talks. If the representatives of the U.K. don't want to continue anymore, negotiations would end. So it seems they are also interested to get a deal done, if possible. It's just unfair to solely blame the EU for these late talks.
I wasn't refering to any kind of extension of the transition period we're currently in, to create even more time for endless negotiations. I'm also in favor of an end of this neverending story on January 1st. I just wanted to point out, that it's still possible to create an additional extension, in case they reach an agreement until christmas. So they would have additional time to create the required laws, legal text and ratification of all EU member states. This process is not necessarly bound to be done by the end of the year. But getting a deal in the first place is.
The hypocrisy of moaning about the economic impacts of lock down whilst calling for no deal, these tories have no shame.
@@dietpictures How about you do your research before posting such a stupid, irrational comment
@@dietpictures No, if you have arguments as to why XXX is the better option, please post them or give at least hints, but saying to do your own research is, with all due respect, pants as noone knows what even is meant, wether you have credible resources used etc.
@@dietpictures Steve Baker
Ian Duncan Smith
Andrew Bridgen
Mark Francois
Craig Mackinlay
Esther McVey
Just a quick handful of the no-deal supporting "but think about the economy!" hypocrites. I'm sure a smart person such as yourself can find more if you fancy it.
give unelected power hungry demons everything you have, yeah good idea
There's no hypocrisy or similarities from the two. No deal will slow growth, not shrink our economy. But every forecast has us still growing economically even in the short term. Lockdown is destroying our economy. I dont expect a rabid left wing europhile to have the slightest understanding on anything economics though.
Grab the popcorn lads!
It's funny, when we were children our parents, teachers and other authority figures told us time and again that in the real world we can't just push back the deadline of a task. Yet, here we are.
I mean, they had years to figure something out. It's not like having to reach a deal happened overnight. 🤦♂️
The first couple years were wasted on whether or not we should have a second refurendum. We had to sit through 2 elections to even decide that.
@@wakey87 bc brexit is so damaging to the economy.
That's because they never thought they'd win, they had 25 years to figure it out hahaha.
But Boris thinks that by stalling, he can force the EU to agree to anything in the extra time. So that is where we are.
Politicians love "last minute deals". That way they can say they totally held out but had to make compromises late into the last night to avoid disaster. Why this is better than having grown adults handle issues immediately and in good faith I don't know.
"The easiest trade deal in history..."
All the benefits without EU immigrants!
"Only considerable upsides"
At 4:48, the "map of europe" for some reason does not include Latvia, Estonia and Finland, even though all three are in-fact a part of the EU and also the Schengen area.
PERKELE! 😅
Yeah but croatia is there today
Or Moldavia
They got annexed by Putin while we were not looking.
They will just agree to a "preliminary agreement" that is "subject to review" in 3-5 years. There is lots more road to kick the can down...
There is always more road it seems...
That will be May's deal 2.0... the neverending story
You could very well be right.
Adding another 3-5 years to a process that has already blown out its fourth birthday candle will only add more good reasons for TLDR to entertain us with incantatory videos...
Gasp!
There is no road ahead anymore, this is it.
I think your on the money there.
Some sort of "extension" that will be spun as a "done deal" sounds about right in Brexit land.
I am sure some agreement will be met because of the 40B£ divorce bill the EU desperately needs.
That fact alone will concentrate minds.
It's all bluff.
Wow a Brexit related comments section where people aren't just shouting at each other. Credit to your channel
EU: Get on with it!
Asia: Get on with it!
Commonwealth: Get on with it!
GET ON WITH IT!
Everyone: G E T O N W I T H I T
UK is a freaking mess right now
Apparently we voted for all this...
With just a small 1% margin. Such huge decisions should only be made with a 3/4 majority.
Imposible
@@Allbritde So by your own rules neither side would have won, let me take a wild guess, in such an instance we just carry on with the status quo huh? So Remain wins on anything above 25% of the vote... Sounds very democratic.
yes you did.
The uk: literally violates the previous « deal »
Also the uk: why you don’t trust us ?
Only after the EU broke the WA
@@jpw6893 When?
@@adamspencer95 before the UK, who incidentally haven't broken it
@@jpw6893 By doing what?
The EU threatened to use northern Ireland against Britain, which was the supposed to be avoided by agreeing the earlier deal. I don't think the EU intended to actually cut off food coming from Britain but the threat was made. And the EU was then caught out by the UK governments reaction. I think the UK should of threaten the proposed bill and got the EU to publicly retract the threat. Then the EU wouldn't have been able to spin the story quite as much.
Sooo let me get this straight... After Boris passed legislation going against a international law... He does the Pikachu face when asked to be held accountable in the future? 😂
Schrödinger's Brexit Deal
you mean being in and out of the single market and customs union at the same time? good luck with that
As I've been banging on about elsewhere, without a deal various other _current_ deals are in danger - being those made with Switzerland (which is mostly contingent on a UK-EU deal) and _temporary_ deals with Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein. Furthermore, Norway has said the UK-Norway fishing deal (which the Tories banged on about) should be re-negotiated as a tripartite EU-UK-Norway (North Sea) agreement next year _when BRexit becomes a reality_ (Norway's words). The British intransigence re fishing grounds access is ridiculous given that the UK is insisting on various unfettered accesses to EU markets such as the energy market and that 70% of UK fish is consumed by the EU anyway. And as for sovereignty, _all_ FTAs give up some sovereignty - just look at the UK-Japan deal where Japan insisted on stronger state aid rules than the EU required...
Brexiters just don't want to hear about all of that. They just want their fish back! But when you try to point out the ridiclousness of their position, they will either ignore or it just sling insults.
We end up IMPORTING fish that we could've fished in our own waters. I want complete control over our seas.
@@renegaderaida526 You just proved my point, with your 'statement'. but I will respond ayway. It actually seems that you mostly import and consume fish that come from other countries waters (like norway). And you export the fish you catch in your own waters. The only benefit would be that you would be able to catch and export the fish other countries now catch. Of course, you will need to build up the capacity to catch and process it first and the export happens to be to EU countries. You're gonna need a deal to that properly... UK gain? Very little (fishing is 0.1% of your economy). If this is where is fails on, you deserve the mess it causes.
So if you have a fish pond in your garden, your neighbor has the right to go fishing in it and can keep anything they catch. This is what the EU thinks is right.
@@kimwit1307 Why does the uk need to be importing 47,000 tonnes of salmon and 22,000 tonnes of cod from OTHER EU countries? It SEEMS like you're incorrect. Source is already provided.
2016 : Uk Business : "okay we need to prepare, what can we expect ? "
UK Goverment : " No worries , we are on it. The EU needs us, so a deal is soon coming and we will prosper!"
2017 : Uk business " How are the preperations going and can we get some info in it?"
UK Goverment : "Still negotiating , but we are preparing for anything, no need to worry"
2018 : Uk business " Ehm we are still not sure what will happen after brexit , can we please have some info so we can prepare ?"
UK Goverment : Some small issues , but no worries a good deal will be made very soon"
2019 : UK business : "Okay , can we please start to get some guidelines on what to do after brexit"
UK Goverment : " Calm down , we got everything under control. It´s a waiting game on a deal"
2020 : Uk business : " We are getting hurt massively by covid , and we still dont know what to do in January 2021 , please give us some info so we can be ready?!? perhaps we need to extend the transit period ?? "
UK Goverment : " Covid has delayed things a bit , but we are preparing for a no deal , plans are being made and we will be ready and prosper mightily. EU thinks we will give up our fish and we dissagree , but no worries we will be ready!"
Uk business : " We are fucked!, please give us some info on how to manage brexit!!"
UK Goverment spends 5 months preparing ... "Jobs done!"
2021 : Uk business " What the hell do we do , we dont know how to manage import/export tariffs or rules ,nothing happened like you said!!?? Please help us!"
Uk goverment : "You are´nt prepared ? not our fault, you had 4 years to get ready!"
Uk goverment : "Also it´s the EU who is to blame..."
If ever there was a textbook example on how to make your country go from 1st World, to 3rd World in 4 years or less , they could´nt have imagined this fuck up by the UK goverment. It´s like they are actively trying to destroy the UK !
At least one good thing has come out of this: I've been regularly using my new favorite word 'shambolic' for years now.
Been using mine clusterfuck and omishambles ..lol
Explain the meaning!
This bloody "owen ready deal" looks quite raw with mere 29 days to go.
To be fair this is very red blue and white brexit, May may had a point, only very few governments can make farce out of years of negotiations.
Anyways about month from now we may have good laugh at this or cry, depending on how disastrous this will be.
Think they forgot to turn the oven on.
@@MrBizteck I guess they destroyed the oven with all the empty promises
The oven ready deal was the withdrawal agreement not the trade deal
yes watching last minute brexit negotiations 1 minute after release
A no deal only harms the EU! things like fair competition is a sign that EU is scared that the UK is going to be better off as the EU think the UK will be more competitive then EU businesses. UK waters dont belong to the EU! and overall the EU is the one that wants a deal so they can prevent damage to the EU market and economy from competition and the likes. Overall the EU also dont want to make it look like the UK benefited from leaving the EU cause that would encourage countries like poland and italy to leave the collapsing EU market which makes countries suffer in competition by making big EU businesses and companies beat out the smaller companies and businesses in the states of the EU. So its clear the EU is panicking lol who blames them the only reason the EU exist is to mitigate the damages and prevent germany from going into ww2 vibes aside that the EU cracks are showing with it out of date as it cripples smaller countries and eu states in all ways.
TheLightSilent - Spamming your talking points through the comments section doesn’t make them any less stupid.
If the entire UK fishing industry collapses as a result of this farce I wouldn't shed a single tear.
I'm sure
Rudulph Byrts what fishing industry
So you’re saying you’re some kind of sociopath who doesn’t care if thousands of people and their families lost their livelihoods. Ok.
There is only one way the UK fishing industry can go and that is UP, you didn't shed a tear when you decimated it during CFP
And we won't be shedding any tears when the EU fishing industry collapses
At least it's finally less than a month left for the final episode of this Brexit season, right?
Yeah it's about time that this show ends. Last season was already not as good as the previous ones. It gets old. Really exhausting
As someone from the EU, I am (not) sorry to burst your bubble, but Brexit negotiations are listed our #99 concern, with football league's scores, Masterchef™ and MaskedSinger above them. And usually is written as "yeah, they are still talking about that".
It’s felt like there is one month left for 3 bloody years !
the Fools that supported Brexit never cared if they got a deal. they simply wanted to end relations with the EU
Just transport and paperwork that doesn't exist is a logistic disaster. The small scale truck test was a 5hr backup. Truck drivers can only drive 9hrs a day. Logistic companies say a 5hr queue is very optimistic.
As an American looking in, the idea of the UK leaving the EU is incredulous, like Texas leaving the US. The benefits of standing together is always better than standing alone. I do believe based on the politics from what I've seen and read, a deal won't pass parliament even if one is produced. Which would be monumentally stupid in a time of economic hardship from COVID
That we didn’t kick out the two-faced pirates in 2016 with a no-deal, that’s what.
i kinda favour nodeal, simple because it would be a nice teachable historic moment for future generations how bullshit and politics can screw over a country.
Or an unelected European Commission/Union
No matter what happens the UK political class will claim success just like Donald 🍊 Trump 🍊 won the recent election. We live in the era of alternative facts where logic and science based facts are simply dismissed as fake news by groups of society living in self reinforcing information indoctrination bubbles. This is cultism gone mad.
Well, politics are propably the only thing that can screw over anything.
"Alexia remind me to sign a deal by the end of 2020"
"OK setting reminder to sing the Eels Are We Alright Again at 20:20 "
"Great right now where's that donation bag "
What do you mean?
Seen them live twice
And that concludes our episode of “Two clueless twats”
It's time to accept it won't happen and prepare. There are more important things to deal with now.
They don’t seem to understand the basics of negotiating - give and take.
We cannot just insist on everything we want and say no to everything the EU wants...
And from a country that stated proudly that our environmental standards would be ‘even better than those of the EU’ what’s the problem with agreeing a level playing field? It’s only a problem if you have no intention of keeping your promises...
Hmm.
Because a "level playing field" goes against the fundamentals of capitalism... if i can make a better quality shirt than,lets say, france why shouldn't i be able to?
The fact that the EU want the UK to be "fair" is proof that the EU fear Britain
@@kevinshmuk7237 It's not about quality, it's about prices.
When you flat out use slaves(extreme example) to produce that shirt you can undercut the price of the french shirtmaker who uses employees who are getting paid.
And the quality control of the EU is no maximum standard. You can have higher quality standard under the EU umbrella. Germany does that for a lot of things.
Well said Smile. I was going to reply that too - the myth that we can do so much better without the EU rules is absolute BS. The EU made *MINIMUM STANDARDS* - we’ve always had the choice to have higher standards than the EU laws if we wanted to.
The rubbish tangle of Brexit lies that have been told - and believed - is astounding. And a national disgrace.
Just an opinion.
@@bramsrockhopper3377 the EU reasoning just doesn't make sense, if your tshirt says made in china/india/Bangladesh then 9/10 it will be made in a sweatshop... why hasvn't they addressed this issue in regards to "level playing field"
The EU also allow megacorporations like amazon and alibaba to undercut EU businesses yet cry "level playing field" when all Britain wants is to be competitive....you're blinded tolerance towards the eu is mouth opening
8:08 your flag is upsidedown. Her Majesty disapproves
Grievous patriotic error, or subtle metaphor?
Either way, it's fitting for the subject at hand.
Isn't this a signal... flag the other way around means big trouble?
Distress in the country
At least it's a Union Jack, not flag of GB
In 2019, the fishing industry accounted for 0.12% of the UK’s GDP - They renege on the backstop and the US could step in. Interesting times
And?
@John Bull The us has stepped in 3 times over water issues between the uk and Iceland. The US always sided with Iceland lol
If the fishing industry is so small, why does the EU so badly want to keep UK waters? It’s obviously a big thing. The fishing industry would be bigger for the UK if it rightfully got back full access to its waters again.
In a case of no-deal, would Nissan still go ahead will its lawsuit?
It has to go through 27 other government parliaments also.
Actually it doesn't if all the elements currently on the table are agreed upon. If any new elements are added then it does.
@@Aquelll Yes, exactly. That's also the reason why the EU hasn't changed their position during 3 years of negotiations at all. Because their general position was ratified by 26 governments beforehand. If they alter any of those positions, it has to go through all parliaments again. With unknown outcome.
So there is also an option of actually getting a last minute deal with compromises in favor of the U.K. done, but getting it smashed by EU member parliaments.
The problem is a lack of clarity about the real purpose of Brexit on the UK side. The "political factors" seem more irrational to me. A family faced with a seriously disturbed and irrational member can become desperate in their attempts to resolve the crisis.
TLDR of this episode:
- adverts for the colouring book
- time is still running out
- there isn't any update on the deal
uBlock and SponsorBlock gets rid of them all for me
UK: let's leave the EU. Brexit yeeeeee
UK: oh we also need a deal on our way out
UK: the EU is unreasonable for not granting us everything we desire
EU: *surprised Pikachu face*
haha " EU: surprised Pikachu face", that made me laugh so hard xD Only a Pokemon fan would get that hahaha.
The UK is only asking for free trade.... the eu is being pretty unreasonable
@@kevinshmuk7237 i don't know if it is worth the effort trying to educate you. The EU too needs free trade because the UK is a very important economic partner. But the EU needs to be assured that there is a level playing field between the EU traders and UK traders in terms of policies, so that the UK does muscle its way up to the top in future. By calling the EU unreasonable I'll will rather not invest more time and energy on other issues. But by common sense, why should the EU accept free trade with the UK, if it does not get any reasonable benefit in return? Unfortunately brexiteers write their own version of reality which works in the UK, and only there.
@@innocento.1552 but the eu does benefit... the UK imports alot from europe and cutting that off is suicide for alot of EU manufacturers.
The UK on the other hand can import from the USA (a deal will happen as biden needs to gain popularity) and the rest of the world. sure it will be more expensive for the uk, but for the eu they just lost a huge market.
In the long term the EU loses out and i think other eu member states have just realised this
@@kevinshmuk7237 UK as a single country has less bargaining power to get good trade deals than a union of 27 countries. The EU can impose safety standart for its food import and production because it represent a single huge market of consumers.
Did anyone else hear a soft buzzing in the background or is this just my phone?
Yeah you're right
great video :)
just a note on the sound, please regulate your noise gain!
The british shot themselves seriously in the foot in leaving the union. We, on the continent sigh and say : "islanders will be islanders". It is going to be very tough for the british people the next five years on top of the corona pandemic that hit hard in the UK. Still no hard feelings. We wish our neighbours the very best!
Thank you mate. It is of some considerable regret to me that most of my fellows think themselves better than my mainland European friends and others easily persuaded that they are by people - such as Nigel Farage - whose life won`t alter one bit as a result of our departure from The European Union.
As for fans of "Saint Nigel," please let me know when his own children have surrendered their own - German Issued - European Union Passports. Who would want to miss that, eh ?
TLDR: Our news is unbiased :)
UA-cam: OnLy BiAsEd NeWs
PragerU: YoU hEaRd ThAt RiGhT
PragerU: we deliver unbiased right wing news!
There are no unbuased news, even scientifical articles reviews are... but there are news, infotainment and dogmatic bullshit. Tldr is news indeed
It's certainly not unbiased, but then no-one is.
Ego and pride will be UK’s downfall.
I would say the same about the EU...!!!
@@H-to-O Yes indeed the mentality that fashion is more important than fishing is our downfall. If you don't support our fishing then eat your Adidas trainers is my advice.
How many people in the EU understand irony?
Brexit negotiations:
Thirty years ago a French colleague went to Japan to sign a deal. He was there for a week. He met the Chairman once, a brief greeting.
All week long the Japanese wanted to take him sightseeing, get him drunk, and discuss irrelevant issues like size of the pallets, colour of the packaging, wording on the labels.
Every time he tried to discuss pricing they changed the subject or set completely unrealistic prices.
At the end of the week my colleague packed his suitcase and checked out of his hotel, without a deal. He was going to get a taxi, but the chairman arrived in a huge chauffeured Toyota Century limousine. He apologised for not having time to discuss the deal, as he was so busy, but would accompany him to the airport.
Within sight of Narita airport the Chairman said “it is a pity for you to go home without a deal. Perhaps we could agree on xxxxxx Yen per Kilo?”
My colleague, hung over, tired and desperate, and in sight of the departure drop off, agreed. The Chairman pulled out a pre written contract and a pen. It was the lowest price we ever agreed to. We were completely out negotiated by Japan.
This is exactly the tactic in play now.
Thank you for helping me understand,
What the current open points are.
And what the different positions are.
That was very good 😊
I hope and pray sovereignty takes priority over short term economic damage. Democracy and freedom is more important than a small downturn in gdp.
Too bad that both concepts are lost on most English voters.
@@ab-ym3bf given the last 7 or 8 national votes i find that comment hard to understand.
Anyway, the signature of the British government has no value.
As an Irish person,I can attest to that.
Just like the protectionist EU...
Thanks
Says a de Gaulle fan?
@@fbenbow2197
Says an Irish person. DO YOU want Want some examples?
Are you thinking of government like King John versus Robin Hood or more recent?
imagine if they procrastinated on this Brexit deal like I procrastinate on my essays lol
Love the videos, but your microphone seems very noisy - something wrong with it?
Time to get real, the UK doesn't want a deal. Just let them go and sink the ship.
Britian is desparate to sign grade deals not EU !
@@didierlemoine6771 Not only the EU isn't desperate, it's ready, unlike the UK who thought all along that the EU would bend to accommodate their wish.
The economic side will win. It's not an If, but when. The only way the independent UK can survive economically would Be with a deal from the EU or with another power of equal or better size. The Biden administration is more for an integrated Europe, so the US is out. China tends to go for deals that will strengthen its sphere of influence, so they are not trusting enough. Possibly Russia, but I doubt the UK would be interested in splitting with the US. So yeah, unless the UK can come up with an economic plan that is genuinely self-reliant and can make up for the billions of pounds they stand to lose, Brexit is going to be an absolute failure politically
We were losing £7B in net subscriptions and £70B in trade deficit being a member of the EU. You are deluded my friend...!!!
@@pb004l7138 And now how much more will you lose once you are stuck under WTO rules with no major trade deal with any of the superpowers
@@ConnorLonergan For your information Connor UK had a trade surplus with US of £39B without a trade deal as opposed to a trade deficit of £70B with the EU with a trade deal. You do the sums...!!!
@@pb004l7138 meaning that trade with the US only cuts this Deficit in half and said Deficit is likely to grow as the UK/EU trade will go by WTO rules should no deal fall through
“Which will win out, head or heart?”
Bowels more likely
In about 3 weeks we're faced with the frightening triple-whammy of Covid, economic depression and Brexit. There are limitations on what can be done to control the damage caused by the first two, therefore it's a no-brainer that we absolutely prioritise negotiating the least harmful Brexit possible.That's not realistic by year's end! Let's get real: it is now vital to effect AN EMERGENCY EXTENSION TO THE TRANSITION PERIOD, during which we dump the machismo politics and focus on the economics.
10:50 Had a good laugh over the lying JRM figure 😂
or is it desmond swayne?
I don't think that there's a WIN here at all
What about the single market issue? Does it look like there will be a customs border for products import so sales to the EU?
A meaningful Brexit cannot be achieved whilst keeping the Good Friday Agreement.
Yeah better let UK walk away without a deal, let them do their thing. Close the borders and forget about them. Scotland will join EU soon anyway :)
And when England collapses, where do you think those refugees are going to go?
In that highly unlikely Scenario integrating UK citizens will be easy. They can communicate in english and usually already have a field in which they can do skilled work. There also is No need to teach them about western culture.
Because..
- It feels it doesn't have enough say in Westminster with only 10% of the votes. Instead prefers EU where it would have 2%
- It understands how a border will work with England given the Ireland issues
- It can't afford to disrupt the 20% of trade it does with the EU. So will prioritise that over the 60% it does with the rest of the UK
Plenty of arguments for independence. It's really a moral / principle question. Can't think of any that are strengthened by Brexit. If someone voted no at the last Indy ref but would now yes, I really don't understand that. Either you morally think Scotland should be independent or you don't.
@@danielwebb8402 acting as If Westminster and the EU would have the same power over Scotlands sovereignety is about as dishonest as it gets. I know Brexiteers like to pretend the EU is some kind of superstate controling all it's members but subscribing to some common rules really isn't the same to being beholden to another government.
@@philippgabainvonkries5117 really? Then explain the lisbon treaty in ireland where the eu asked the same question via a referendum several times...you eu bootlickers are braindead i swear
As for scotland joining the eu....they can't under the eu law. A country can only join with a deficit lower than 3%...Scotland has a deficit of 10% hand the SNP have no idea on how to decrease it
Welcome back, Mr. Hiss...
I hear it too, somethings wrong on their end
Haven't heard much from the news stations about the Indian strikes, I'd love to hear TLDRs take on it please.
A deal was never intended. They just couldn’t be honest about it as it was politically toxic.
Glad to see Mogg still sleeping on the benches in the vid. Makes me laugh every time XD
I'm still hopeful that Boris will get a deal in the negotiations for our re-entry to EU.
Not going to happen
@@shadowlord1418 agree...on both sides I mean!
Not gonna happen this decade
Don't be stupid
That would require a second referendum, no easy feat, and is political suicide for the dude. Don't get he wrong me's already set himself up for that regardless of a no-deal happens but offending his base is not something any politicians are willing to do. As seen by Republicans in America this year.
Audio on this video has a lot of white background noise
What does the UK suggest for settling disagreements over treaties? If they don't like the EU courts... should every disagreement be taken to WTO? (is that even possible?)
Also... I'm old enough to remember the UK Mad Cow Scandal (BSE) around 1990: cows being fed "meat and bone meals" because it was cheaper, from what they said back then, the "meat and bone meals" helped spread the disease (except cows are vegetarians, why is the industry feeding them with meat??? this should be forbidden, damn lobbies!). The EU ain't perfect, but I wouldn't trust any UK food standards after all the rule-bending and rule-breaking the UK pulled in the last 30+ years.
Cows don't hunt and neither don't pigs and other farm animals. Many will happily eat meat products however when its processed into some dry feed. They never fed the bones directly unprocessed.
@@bzuidgeest They will eat it, but their bodies aren't meant to digest it, they will lack some nutrients and have trouble purging other things their body cannot process.
OF COURSE our fishing industry is so small right now - the EU is stealing everything!
Check out Japan - their fishing industry is amazing!
of course and most fish caught in british waters will be exported........but if there is a no deal, there wil be sanctions for fishing on both sides...and the tariffs and tax will go up to export those catches.....which would make fish more expensive.........
I guess no more daily fish and chips or fish mac or even fish fingers ( if you can cal them fish ha ha )
Euh it seems impossible to get a deal. Come on what in 4 weeks???🤣🤣🤣
So please do a video what will happen with no deal.
Have you been living under a rock? They did a ton of those already.
Nah a realistic one, a better one
The UK would be forced to practice the WTO pact where any goods produced in UK would attract extra tax while exporting if the UK Govt doesn't provide any subsidy to local factories they all will just move out of UK cause why pay double tax this is just one of the biggest challenges ahead.
Correction: should be "no peeking" not " no peaking" in your graphics. Thanks for clear explanation of the issues.
So since the fishing industry represents 0.1% of the UK's economy, yet is the single-most cited reason for all the problems associated with a Brexit deal/non-deal, the Welsh must be thinking, "Well, leave it to Westminster to make a big fuss about something more smelly and less important to them than us."
Do the geniuses who promoted Brexit have any idea how to achieve their Nirvana?
Yes it is called no deal
A no deal only harms the EU! things like fair competition is a sign that EU is scared that the UK is going to be better off as the EU think the UK will be more competitive then EU businesses. UK waters dont belong to the EU! and overall the EU is the one that wants a deal so they can prevent damage to the EU market and economy from competition and the likes. Overall the EU also dont want to make it look like the UK benefited from leaving the EU cause that would encourage countries like poland and italy to leave the collapsing EU market which makes countries suffer in competition by making big EU businesses and companies beat out the smaller companies and businesses in the states of the EU. So its clear the EU is panicking lol who blames them the only reason the EU exist is to mitigate the damages and prevent germany from going into ww2 vibes aside that the EU cracks are showing with it out of date as it cripples smaller countries and eu states in all ways.
@@thelightsilent And there it is again - the same comment. You do know what the definition of insanity is, don't you?
@@BigTwitchy i think its a bot or somethin like coz he has commented in every comment section same thing copy paste
@@thelightsilent Thank you for sharing! This is the most clear and comprehensive pro-brexit argument I have heard so far. It provides great insight into the movement.
Probably be political
But it is pretty pointless now
The uk is in for a shit storm either way
The only thing that works in the best interest of both is WTO and bi-lateral trade agreements.
1. UK fish never were on the table. If it is economically such a small percent, then it is even smaller for the EU and less of a stumbling block for them than for the UK.
2. The UK definition of a level playing field is clear cut. Outside of the EU, a level playing field is defined by how the UK defines a level playing field such as subsidies, special tax treatment, etc. The UK's ability to trade with the rest of the world and its standard of living will ultimately be defined by their efficiency, which translates into being able to compete outside of the EU. The EU definition is vague and ever changing based on their latest laws which include employee rights/benefits and myriad of other things. The EU is collapsing under their weight now. They don't want want the UK to have the advantage of running an efficient, capitalistic economy competing with their Marxist/Socialist system. That is understandable and also irreconcilable.
3. The EU wants to determine what a level playing field is using their laws and courts. EU courts are a decade behind in such matters use the EU standards to judge the outcome. It would be preposterous to think the UK would agree to that.
The UK is the EU's silver tuna for exports. The EU position is to maintain the UK as a de-facto member of the EU. The EU states these are the requirements for friction-less trade. The UK says we will not agree to those terms ever. The EU can then say you will have to pay our tariffs. The UK can then say then you can pay our tariffs. The UK wins on volume and negotiating power due to the trade imbalance. Businesses move into the UK to avoid tariffs to have competitive access to the UK market. They pay UK taxes and employ UK workers. The EU's existence requires preying on each other and they just lost a lot of their business.
Thus, the only thing that works in the best interest of both is WTO and bi-lateral trade agreements. That way the EU can decide what their tariffs will be with UK and vice-versa. The higher the EU makes their tariffs with the UK, the more they throttle their ability to sell to them because the standard becomes the rest of the world, not the EU.
Plot twist!
They never intended to get a deal.
EU: OK, you can import to the Union after Brexit but only if you keep the same standards as we demand from our producers (like it is done everywhere in the world).
UK: STOP OPPRESSING US!!!! AND WE CAN BE TRUSTED, WE PROMISE!!! HEY!!! DON'T LOOK AT OUR PAST, JUST TRUST US!!!
I see some "very good" trade deals in the UK future with this kind of negotiation.
UK: Ok, lets trade. We would like to import anything we make to your country with zero import tax and without any regulations. Also, if you want to import to our country, you can but only if we feel like it and with 100% import tax and following our product regulations, of course. Unless it is something we don't make and need it for cheap, that is. Deal?
Other country: Yeah, right... Let's start again but this time without being on drugs?
Maybe it is time to realize that time of colonization is over and if you would like to trade with someone the deal has to be fair to both sides?
(Sorry to all the good and intelligent UK citizens, this is mostly related to the current UK government and some Brexit fanatics that seem to be out of touch with the reality)
Has it ever crossed your mind that you don’t have a clue? You’ve over simplified things to fit your own cognitive bias. Don’t give up your day job.
@@trimaxionerror5696 Have it crossed your mind that you it might be you who has a cognitive bias? (I know it hasn't) Yes, I oversimplified things in this comment. But, for anyone following this whole "situation" for long time, it must be clear that especially current UK government feels like they can have a lot of things without giving much in return.
Or do you feel that wanting the UK to conform to EU regulation to be able to import goods to the EU and having it written in the form of law is asking too much? I don't think so but your cognitive bias might make you feel otherwise...
Again, I know there is much more to it, I am just commenting on this part.
BTW, what do you think my day job is? (hint: no, not that)
*export
@@syiridium703 i swear you eu fanatics are braindead, countries outside the eu have different standards..why should the UK be any different...also the UK has one of the highest standards and EU standards are based of from the UK's.
The whole premise of level playing field goes against the fundementals of capitalism, if the UK can produce higher quality microchips than,lets say, france then why shouldn't we be able to?? The illusion that it's wrong to undercut other businesses is laughable when megacorps like amazon and alibaba do it all the time yet the EU have no issues with them.
The EU fears competition from its fragile market that was stagnating since 2015
@@kevinshmuk7237 Heh, uhm, OK. Just a note that one of the big things in Brexit (fanaticism) was that there are people from other countries that offer to work for less than the "blue blooded British" people. So it is quite astounding that you would like to have "fair play" on that front but having fair play elsewhere is unacceptable for you. I think to anything capable of basic reasoning it is quite clear whose brain does not function properly...
And who exactly is saying that UK cannot produce higher quality anything and sell it somewhere? The idea is that there are to be some minimal standards of quality, written clearly "on a paper". Thus, anyone can point to them and say: "Hey, this is not in line with what we agreed upon", in case such thing happens (no one is saying it will happen). If the UK's standard are so ultra high, then why does the UK have a problem with having these standards written as a law?
Moreover, different countries outside EU have different standards but in order to be able to export to EU, they need to meet certain standards, usually agreed as a part of a trade deal. Of course, it is possible to individually order products of inferior quality but what we are dealing with is on the order of international trade. Not you, as an individual, ordering some piece of junk from alibaba.
And of course, I completely agree on that it is also important to deal with substandard imports via the likes of Amazon. But that is another story and running away is not a way to solve such issues.
Here, the UK and EU are essentially negotiating a trade deal between independent nations. I understand that the UK is reluctant to have to commit to anything as it is obviously not in the UK's best interest. However, what I wanted to point out is that a trade deal is something where both sides gain some and lose some, which seems to go over some peoples heads. Of course, if the UK don't like this than I think they should definitely just walk away and be done with the Brexit already. Most of us are just pissed that it is taking so long and drains resources of both parties. I guess some politicians are trying to save the situation (e.g. by striking a deal) but it obviously won't happen.
It sounds like Brussels are flexing their mussels so let's hope the entire deal doesn't flounder on a sole issue. Otherwise we'll be left in a bad plaice in January. Perhaps a provisional deal could be agreed, allowing both sides to stay clam and mullet over?
A ‘Channel Tunnel’ if you will!? 😂😂😂...I’ll see myself out.🤙🏼
How did you get from independent arbitrator (like the WTO) to the ECJ?
Who voted for the WTO?
Independent my arse.
Uk breaks treaty with the EU.
Also UK: why don’t you Trust us?
EU fails to negotiate in good faith (as per WA) that's why UK doesn't trust EU because they ignored the WA first
@@pb004l7138 Name the clause the EU ignored, or the instance when the EU has not negotiated in good faith.
@@neodym5809 he can't, but this was the prescribed standard reply on his troll list
@@neodym5809 Refused to discuss anything until fishing rights agreed, run the clock down and not respecting our rights as an Independent country, for a start
@@TheBruteOne Refused to discuss anything until fishing rights agreed, run the clock down and not respecting our rights as an Independent country, for a start
Don't worry, the German car companies will come to the rescue:)
Are they about to evacuate the UK citizens to a safe place away from the Brexit island?
@@tracyofbg I hope they're marooned there without any trade deals, so that they can prosper mightily:)LOL
@@andrewprentice4030 lol
So what is the opinion of the british people that live outside rn?There isnt any deal yet and there is only one month left b4 brexit, im curious to know about your opinions, do you intend to take the nationality of the countries where you are living ?
U.K.: we will leave without a deal
News: economy contracts by 11% due to Covid
U.K. : hold on wait
"It's not necessarily that the EU doesn't trust Britain..."
Our government wants to break international law, illegally prorogued parliament, and said Cummings drove a long way on his wife's birthday to test his eyesight 😅😂
If I were the EU I wouldn't trust a single thing we say or do 🤣