Prince George's Plane Crash - Royal Murder Mysteries - S01 EP06 - History Documentary

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  • Explore the enigmatic life of Prince George, Duke of Kent, in this intriguing episode. From his scandalous affairs and bisexuality to his involvement in a possible coup against Churchill, delve into the mysteries surrounding Prince George's untimely death during a plane crash in 1942. Uncover the theories of espionage, peace negotiations with Nazi Germany, and the connection to Rudolf Hess's mysterious flight to Britain. Join us as we unravel the hidden facets of Prince George's life and the unanswered questions surrounding his tragic end.
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  • @jeffreygoyen1309
    @jeffreygoyen1309 4 місяці тому +201

    My late uncle ( Frank ) was the pilot of this flight. Boards of inquiry concluded that due to heavy fog and winds the flight veered inland ( instead of the usual coastal route ) and crashed into the side of the mountain ie it was an accident. The throttles were fully open according to post crash investigation which suggests the flight crew tried to apply full power to climb out of the impending crash but Sunderland flying boats, though reliable, were noted to be underpowered. The tail gunner, Andy Jack, survived as his entire turret was ripped off at impact. My Late father, who was in the AIF, visited Andy Jack post WW2 but noted Jack was sworn to secrecy by the official secrets act so could tell little or nothing. In any event he was at the tail of the plane and probably saw or heard little or nothing of what was occurring in the cockpit until the very last moment.

    • @cmclean6475
      @cmclean6475 4 місяці тому +11

      Wasn't Frank Australian, so are you too? I was very interested in this story and did a LOT of PG research but couldn't trace your family links downunder, where I am too. I have much I cld share privately with you... if....

    • @johnholmes6897
      @johnholmes6897 4 місяці тому +12

      He was attached to the cockpit with a radio. He heard everything

    • @jeffreygoyen1309
      @jeffreygoyen1309 4 місяці тому +19

      My family ( a few generations before me ) had roots in Shepparton ( there is even a Goyen Reserve in Shepp, near municipal offices ), Victoria ( though i grew up in Melb ), Frank was actually Frank Mckenzie Goyen and my other uncle ( Norman Joseph ( Joe ) ) flew as a tail gunner/ radio operator in B25's and did 35 missions i believe including 2 on D-Day over Normandy supporting the landings. My dad was infantry in Mid East and Crete spent 3 or so yrs as a POW in Austria ( Captured in Crete )

    • @arturs2436
      @arturs2436 4 місяці тому

      I have seen a BBC News interview from 2003, in which the Flight Sergeant Jack's niece(Margaret Harris) declared that he told his brother that the Duke had been at the controls of the plane; that Jack had dragged him from the pilot's seat after the crash; and that there was an additional person on board the plane whose identity has never been revealed.

    • @cmclean6475
      @cmclean6475 4 місяці тому +6

      @@jeffreygoyen1309 I worked in Shepparton, saw the Goyen Reserve and started hunting for rellies, that was back in c 2009

  • @user-kv1lp8ih8g
    @user-kv1lp8ih8g 2 місяці тому +16

    Wrote him out of history? Talk about being successful!! I had never even heard of this guy till I saw this, and Ive been an avid reader of history since the 1970's. Frankly Im stunned that I had never known about him.

    • @thesmallerhalf1968
      @thesmallerhalf1968 2 місяці тому +5

      I am not convinced he was written out of history. I have known of his existence and fate for about 4 decades.

  • @julierobertson148
    @julierobertson148 3 місяці тому +25

    This was the most interesting "War story" I have heard in many years. It is also the first time I had heard of most of the issues and questions raised. The actual history of WWII seems to be much curious-er than any of the accounts that made it into the record books. Thank you for this intriguing perspective.

  • @murtlandjardine8716
    @murtlandjardine8716 5 місяців тому +46

    THANKS FOR SHARING!! MY FIRST TIME KNOWLEDGE OF THIS STORY

  • @eleanorfowser4705
    @eleanorfowser4705 5 місяців тому +36

    It was years before I learned that he was a real person, and did die in a plane crash in Scotland.

  • @SecretSquirrelFun
    @SecretSquirrelFun 4 місяці тому +41

    I’m not a pilot, but the engines being discovered at full throttle makes sense to me.
    If the plane was losing altitude and/or power, the pilot would have been trying to get as much power as he could, trying to prevent them from crashing. Trying desperately to lift he plane and find a better place to land.

  • @examplelife1567
    @examplelife1567 5 місяців тому +137

    I love how the guy who survived and made the decision to leave the crash site is made to look highly suspicious.
    What exactly was he supposed to do?
    It speaks very highly of him that he was able to get himself to a place of safety.
    Obviously I don't know what his training was, possibly he had been trained for such incidents.
    Nevertheless, it would have been apparent to him that he was the only server and he took it from there.
    Many people would have stayed with the plane due to a state of shock and possibly died as a result.

    • @lynnwalton814
      @lynnwalton814 5 місяців тому +18

      So true

    • @skippmclovan1135
      @skippmclovan1135 5 місяців тому +29

      To survive and walk away from such a 'High-G' impact force at cruising speed directly into terrain is just quite extraordinary. A very tough man..!

    • @amyexner
      @amyexner 5 місяців тому +5

      You don’t walk away from an accident site.

    • @hull294
      @hull294 5 місяців тому

      Yes you do if your on a freezing cold hillside in the middle of Scotland & have injuries. He may have seen the lights of the small village or crofts & thought his chances were better if he headed for them. He had no way of knowing if help would turn up or if it did how long it would take.@@amyexner

    • @jfryer485
      @jfryer485 5 місяців тому +8

      @@skippmclovan1135What normally happens is the tail flips over so his stop is over a huge distance.
      For the same reason the pilot is in the worst place.
      Some people I know crashed into a Swiss mountain circa 1973 or so and those in the tail survived but most died.
      It was a mothers union trip to Switzerland from Wells in Somerset.
      Normally a person dies with a sudden stop at 18 miles per hour ie hitting a tree or brick wall.

  • @janseary
    @janseary 4 місяці тому +22

    No wonder Queen Elizabeth had concerns about Prince William continuing to fly helicopters. She lost her uncle, Prince George, Duke of Kent, in a plane crash in 1942 and a cousin, Prince William of Gloucester, in 1972.

    • @lorifintel9784
      @lorifintel9784 2 місяці тому +3

      And prince Philip lost his sister and her family in a plane accident as well.

    • @cambelloroxy9420
      @cambelloroxy9420 Місяць тому +2

      @@lorifintel9784I completely forgot 😅
      But your right ( it really is no wonder that the Queen was concerned)

  • @wondergirl367
    @wondergirl367 3 місяці тому +16

    Intriguing! I didn't realize that David and Bertie had a younger brother.

    • @carlywright5127
      @carlywright5127 3 місяці тому +5

      Duke Of Kent and Duke of Gloucester father. Alexandra the sister. All elderly now was Married to princess of Greece Marina.

    • @cynthiastrawson3316
      @cynthiastrawson3316 3 місяці тому +6

      They had three.

    • @kathleenpalmer5274
      @kathleenpalmer5274 3 місяці тому +6

      Google the youngest Prince John

    • @BonnieBlair-zm4uu
      @BonnieBlair-zm4uu 2 місяці тому +2

      Prince Michael of Kent was the youngest of Prince Georgie's sons and was just an infant when his father, the Duke of Kent, died. Prince Michael of Kent appears to have inherited his father's intelligence and is multi lingual and articulate. I enjoyed watching him in a video 📼 discussing his assassinated8 Romanov8 relatives.✝️☦️🛐

    • @janetaldrich7747
      @janetaldrich7747 2 місяці тому

      They had 3. Prince Henry, Prince George and Prince John

  • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
    @jacksimpson-rogers1069 2 місяці тому +6

    Let us not forget that Churchill was the _only_ Tory Party "candidate" that the Labour Party was willing to tolerate as Prime Minister of a united parliament.
    But my other thought was the unfairness of the deaths of the others, if Prince George was the target.

  • @shadowshow701
    @shadowshow701 2 місяці тому +7

    Churchill was not hated by the Royal Family at all. He had a very warm and close friendship with Edward the 8th in particular, even though they differed in opinion on many things

  • @jimsmith556
    @jimsmith556 5 місяців тому +16

    Let me go out on a limb and say that the rear gunner did what any rational person would do; go get help. And the forms he was asked to sign would be his statement to the investigators. What a crock of supposition and nonsense to implicate him in anything without evidence.

    • @jeffreygoyen1309
      @jeffreygoyen1309 4 місяці тому +4

      correct. My father ( brother of the deceased pilot, my uncle Frank ) visited Andy Jack ( tail turret operator ) post WW2 in Scotland. Jack confirmed he was sworn under the Official Secrets Act to reveal pretty much nothing....

  • @inominate2024
    @inominate2024 2 місяці тому +14

    Hess was a pilot, Hess received basic flight training at Oberschleissheim and Lechfeld Air Base from March to June 1918, and advanced training at Valenciennes in France in October. On 14 October, he was assigned to Jagdstaffel 35b, a Bavarian fighter squadron equipped with Fokker D.VII biplanes. He saw no action with Jagdstaffel 35b, as the war ended on 11 November 1918. Hess did not fly to Scotland in a jet Me262, which did not enter service until 1942. He flew Me110 twin engine fighter bomber, specially modified with extra fuel tanks and a better compass and radio. He wanted to meet the Duke of Hamilton to discuss a coup d’etat because the duke was also a pilot and was a wing commander at RAF Turnhouse near Edinburg at the time.

    • @paulspice4717
      @paulspice4717 2 місяці тому

      Hess flew in a jet, haha, this is the stuff that makes myths and conspiracy theories

  • @voyaristika5673
    @voyaristika5673 5 місяців тому +35

    First I've seen the whole story of Prince George leading to the crash. Thank you for posting!

    • @marigauthier3475
      @marigauthier3475 5 місяців тому +1

      Are you being a braggart?

    • @lillianmcgrew217
      @lillianmcgrew217 5 місяців тому +2

      This is so sad 😔

    • @dorothywillms115
      @dorothywillms115 5 місяців тому +12

      I’m a 75 yr. Old Canadian and I’ve heard this story years ago and no I’m not bragging. I really dislike instant bashing of another on the internet. In fact it’s nasty.

  • @carolking6355
    @carolking6355 5 місяців тому +39

    A very interesting theory and it does appear that plane was chartered to crash. I feel all speculations are very wrong regarding the dead who cannot defend themselves. Let them rest in peace.

    • @neale3871
      @neale3871 4 місяці тому +4

      What makes it appear the plane was chartered to crash? Seems a poorly planned night flight in fog was the reason for the crash

    • @Tazjet100
      @Tazjet100 3 місяці тому +5

      The aircraft was descending towards RAF Wick at the moment of impact. Speculations are not wrong everything in the official account was a lie, so parsing the facts from lies is the decent thing to do.

    • @MsGuppie2010
      @MsGuppie2010 Місяць тому

      I totally agree

  • @KathleenP-me8qz
    @KathleenP-me8qz 2 місяці тому +12

    Does anyone think, as I do, that the present Prince William looks a lot like Prince George, the youngest brother of King Edward VIII.

    • @shelleybelcher6565
      @shelleybelcher6565 Місяць тому +2

      Looks like William, seems to act like Andrew

    • @cassandratq9301
      @cassandratq9301 Місяць тому +1

      Yes.

    • @cassandratq9301
      @cassandratq9301 Місяць тому +1

      Wonder if that has anything to do with why William's eldest son is named George?

    • @user-ds2cg1cg1m
      @user-ds2cg1cg1m 25 днів тому +1

      @Kathleen: I don't. Fortunately, William, and to a lesser extent, Harry, look much more Spencer than Windsor. (Not that Windsor is their real name) And lucky for them, too.

    • @456inthemix
      @456inthemix 22 дні тому

      @@shelleybelcher6565 No, Prince William looks and acts just like his great-granduncle George, he has a drinking problem, does what he wants and is known to be bisexual, Andrew is not bisexual, he likes Lolitas ;-)
      Most probably William could be his Granduncle's incarnation.
      By the way, the late Princess Diana is a descendant of Churchil, what a coincidence?

  • @katehennessy4814
    @katehennessy4814 2 місяці тому +6

    WW11 Air Crash Detectives S01E06 ( also avail for free on youtube) has better and more accurate info about the crash. Definitely worth a watch!

  • @johnstirling6597
    @johnstirling6597 2 місяці тому +4

    I recall reading an post war investigation into this by a senior RAF pilot and his conclusion was that the main compass was incorrectly aligned , (IE, off by a few degrees) thus causing the crash.

  • @petefinnegan3873
    @petefinnegan3873 5 місяців тому +14

    have a photo of my uncle meeting him beside his spitfire ,he mentioned the crash that killed him.

  • @juliahenderson5418
    @juliahenderson5418 5 місяців тому +12

    Love the content! I feel like this is a great high-level but comprehensive video in which one can easily take a deeper dive into researching any further questions we have. No way is a 45-minute video going to be able to deep dive into each point or answer all questions one has after watching. At any rate, thanks for providing an excellent starting point into a rabbit hole I had never heard of before. I'll definitely be googling more for some light reading (jk, nothing light on any of the points presented here) 😂📚 😊

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 5 місяців тому +20

    Great casting ! This actor looks so royal.

  • @KangElla1666
    @KangElla1666 3 місяці тому +18

    I like this documentary but they seem to make logical things seem suspicious: the full throttle engines, leaving a burning, explosive disaster scene to get help. Those two things seem like the most obvious things one would do in a plane crash situation.

  • @cynthiamorgan7756
    @cynthiamorgan7756 Місяць тому +2

    Williams Prince George looks exactly like him & king George. Its amazing, the same eyes etc.

  • @CFdoinggood
    @CFdoinggood 4 місяці тому +16

    I think that Prince William bears a striking resemblance to him.

    • @shadowshow701
      @shadowshow701 2 місяці тому +2

      That’s exactly what I was thinking

  • @Joanla1954
    @Joanla1954 5 місяців тому +32

    Very interesting and well done, thank you! I have never heard of this man until now.

    • @dorothywillms115
      @dorothywillms115 5 місяців тому +5

      Obviously are either very young or don’t pay attention to royal history. I’m a 75 year old Canadian and my mother told me all about Princess Marina and Princess George. King George V had some CRAZY sons. No doubt about that.

  • @thebostonbrawler1
    @thebostonbrawler1 4 місяці тому +6

    In every conflict of war, the countries in the conflict set up envoys immediately that begin communications/negotiations with their enemies. Where most of the time, they are not in heated negotiations but later, when necessary are there to talk shop.

  • @MakerInMotion
    @MakerInMotion 4 місяці тому +8

    31:55 Seriously? That looks like a wave to me. Bent elbow and fingers pointing straight up. He's waving.

  • @cmclean6475
    @cmclean6475 4 місяці тому +8

    General Sikorski's death in an air accident about the same time was also regarded as suspicious. Polish leader based in England by then of course. Churchil has been implicated in that too.
    Strangely enough, Prince George had been offered the crown of Poland and I happen to own his personal copy of the Cambridge History of Poland, from his library sold off to help out Princess Marina's estate. (Perhaps he was hoping to bone up on their culture.)

    • @DeirdreMcNamara
      @DeirdreMcNamara Місяць тому

      I have no distinct memories, other than a smile when I hear a Polish accent, of living in the house of Madame Sikorski in London, but I was told that she used to sit me on her lap and feed me strawberries and cream when I was a toddler." I wish that I knew more.

  • @russyeatman5631
    @russyeatman5631 2 місяці тому +6

    "Lets not forget that the House of Windsor was (and IS) German".

  • @scottlyons8130
    @scottlyons8130 5 місяців тому +9

    But his father was totally a navy man. He also was a strict disciplinary.

  • @167curly
    @167curly 4 місяці тому +8

    The brief footage at 10.30 minutes of the princes' South American tour was actually in Bermuda in 1931. Prince David laid the foundation stone of Bermuda's Cenotaph war memorial then.

  • @doncooper6801
    @doncooper6801 5 місяців тому +15

    Why is video of a Me262 shown when the audio says Me 110?

    • @brentvfreiberger
      @brentvfreiberger 5 місяців тому +3

      Bad editing?

    • @mandywalkden-brown7250
      @mandywalkden-brown7250 5 місяців тому +4

      Because they don’t appear to have any ability to cite actual facts, anywhere in this video. Very poor. Laughable even.

  • @studiolezard
    @studiolezard 4 місяці тому +15

    This would make a great movie.

  • @bekymooneyham5056
    @bekymooneyham5056 5 місяців тому +49

    19:55 he talks about unfortunate deaths (just spoke of Violet and Kiki) making George change his ways. Those two women died AFTER George died.

    • @lynnebarnes3840
      @lynnebarnes3840 5 місяців тому +11

      Thank you, fact checker.

    • @kittymervine6115
      @kittymervine6115 4 місяці тому +4

      yep, this wasn't totally fact checked....and I think most court historians would know this off the cuff.

    • @julianciahaconsulting8663
      @julianciahaconsulting8663 2 місяці тому +1

      well there goes my conspiracy theory that they were silenced by operatives of the Royal Family for being bad influences on Prince George haha

  • @BonnieBlair-zm4uu
    @BonnieBlair-zm4uu 2 місяці тому +3

    My Great Uncle, a navigator, died in a plane crash serving our 🇺🇸 Beloved US & I have great empathy for Prince Michael of Kent not remembering his father.☹️ My feral kitty🐈 is named after Georgie, because I adored his portrayal in the🇬🇧 British Prince John miniseries. Peaceful Repose to Great Uncle Nicknamed Moose & Prince Georgie.😇😇✝️🛐🩸🇺🇸🩸🇬🇧🌎🌍🌏

  • @davidrelite6239
    @davidrelite6239 5 місяців тому +8

    What happened to the Sgt who survived the crash? Did he survive the war?

  • @DerParsifal
    @DerParsifal 5 місяців тому +18

    They scrubbed any reference to him for a very long time. I grew up in the British Empire and never read anything about this guy until this video! And I read a lot!

    • @suzyfarnham3165
      @suzyfarnham3165 5 місяців тому +5

      I knew all about this accident in school and I am in Australia? I am in my 60's?

    • @DerParsifal
      @DerParsifal 5 місяців тому +3

      @@suzyfarnham3165 Canadian here. I guess Canada wasn't plugged in as well as Oz.

    • @guyh9992
      @guyh9992 4 місяці тому +6

      He was known in Australia because he had been selected to be the next Governor-General. After his death his brother the Duke of Gloucester got the job after WWII instead.

    • @aureyd2515
      @aureyd2515 3 місяці тому +5

      Yes, I've watched a lot of BBC documentaries over the years and was always given the impression there were only the two oldest boys. On the other hand, the RF have always glossed over the children that died, or the inconvenient offspring.
      I came looking after reading a fictional story based on the event, thinking it was totally fictional. But no, the story was actually based on a real incident.

    • @cynthiastrawson3316
      @cynthiastrawson3316 3 місяці тому +4

      My mother told me quite a lot of this story in the early 1960s. She and my aunts also talked about Prince Philips paramours.

  • @kristi4113
    @kristi4113 5 місяців тому +10

    This is the first time I’ve ever heard that the Duke of Kent was wanting his country to surrender…and I don’t believe it.

    • @peachygal4153
      @peachygal4153 4 місяці тому +4

      Not surrender but make peace. You know like what happened in Vietnam. That war was not won but peace was sued for, and it was stopped. Technically North Vietnam won since they stayed communist, but US authorities say no one won, they sued for peace.

    • @docbrummer2532
      @docbrummer2532 3 місяці тому +6

      You need to read much more into British royal family history. They were German. It’s widely known the royal family wanted to make peace with Germany.

    • @kristi4113
      @kristi4113 3 місяці тому +2

      @@docbrummer2532 I read all the time, and I know they were German. However…what does your truly rude comment have to do with anything?

    • @julianciahaconsulting8663
      @julianciahaconsulting8663 2 місяці тому

      North Vietnam definitely won the war since they went on to take South Vietnam and unite it under the communist banner which was the main thing the USA got into the war to prevent.@@peachygal4153

    • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
      @jacksimpson-rogers1069 2 місяці тому +1

      @@docbrummer2532 It occurs to me that "Bertie" married a Scotswoman, and spent some time in the highlands. I think, having been born in Edinburgh, that the Scots were at least as hostile to Hitler's Germany as the English "working classes". I do not believe George VI cared about his German ancestry. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon might well have helped him get rid of it.

  • @bonckers
    @bonckers 5 місяців тому +13

    A very interesting documentary!(and James sherwood’s suit is gorgeous ❤️)

  • @BlackStump172
    @BlackStump172 5 місяців тому +15

    What garbage . The plain flew into the side of the hill .

    • @roxannlegg750
      @roxannlegg750 5 місяців тому +12

      No - two experienced pilots? And if you see the site of the crash (the memorial) its not really the "side of a hill", its just one of all the hills that make up the whole landscape, so clearing them was a pilots job. Its not like they were flying over flat land and hit a hill they didnt see. Experienced RAF dont "just fly into the side of a hill". They were headed for Iceland, that takes experience and planning esp in those days.

  • @SuperZytoon
    @SuperZytoon 5 місяців тому +22

    The Royal Princes certainly bore a strong resemblance to one another.

    • @magicmarker7047
      @magicmarker7047 5 місяців тому +7

      Prince Andrew looks a lot like him.

    • @thumpyfuzz
      @thumpyfuzz 5 місяців тому +6

      Inbreeding

    • @One.DeSanctis.
      @One.DeSanctis. 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@thumpyfuzz yes

    • @Jess-C
      @Jess-C Місяць тому

      ​@@magicmarker7047 I was thinking exactly the same he is very like Prince George!

    • @DeirdreMcNamara
      @DeirdreMcNamara Місяць тому

      @@thumpyfuzz limited gene pool...why they "breed out...."

  • @bbybella9937
    @bbybella9937 5 місяців тому +23

    The way they didn’t mention how George possible illegitimate child was married to Jackie Kennedy’s sister????

    • @cmclean6475
      @cmclean6475 4 місяці тому +5

      Proven now, and Lee Radziwill was his first wife, second one ex-Duchess of ?Marlborough (from memory)

  • @roypiltdown5083
    @roypiltdown5083 4 місяці тому +5

    not really sure why the film showed (very prominently) an Me-262 jet fighter during the narration of Hess' flight to Scotland, when such a plane was not flown until several years later and Hess in fact flew a Henkel 110, a propeller-driven fighter/bomber. just wanted to make that clear.

    • @roypiltdown5083
      @roypiltdown5083 4 місяці тому +2

      my error: i called it a Henkel 110, when it was in fact a Messerschmitt machine.
      later in the film they raise questions about the aircraft's range, and that it should not have been able to have made the flight without refuelling - however, at least two histories report that his plane had been modified with long-range fuel tanks (Nesbit & van Acker)

  • @etschmitz
    @etschmitz 2 місяці тому +3

    Re: Michael Canfield, this is the first doc I’ve seen that gives a different mother for him than Kiki Preston.

  • @moiraatkinson
    @moiraatkinson 5 місяців тому +19

    What an interesting video! I’m not into either royalty or the war particularly so I hadn’t heard about this and don’t obviously have a previous opinion. I think a lot of so called conspiracy theories are false, but when people keep things secret it’s asking for suspicion. Enjoyed the video and have subscribed.

    • @Here_kitty_kitty1-wg9xd
      @Here_kitty_kitty1-wg9xd 4 місяці тому +1

      You don’t know the facts and certainly won’t learn them on this channel.

    • @davidlogan4329
      @davidlogan4329 4 місяці тому

      totally fake

    • @moiraatkinson
      @moiraatkinson 4 місяці тому +2

      Is it? I can’t argue either way. Why do you say it’s fake?

    • @julianciahaconsulting8663
      @julianciahaconsulting8663 2 місяці тому

      Well you dont know the "facts" either since so many of the records that would contain those "facts" are either destroyed or have vanished or still are inaccessible due to still being " secret"@@Here_kitty_kitty1-wg9xd

    • @julianciahaconsulting8663
      @julianciahaconsulting8663 2 місяці тому

      I think he is one of those people who instantly label any explanation for an event that differs from the Official Narrative a "conspiracy theory" and believes all "conspiracy theories" are fake - ignoring the huge number of so called "conspiracy theories" that at the end of the day were shown to have been true or at least much closer to the Truth than the Official Narratives were.....to believe that uber rich and powerful individuals & organizations never conspire at times to increase their wealth and power - presumably because they are too busy trying to increase the quality of Life for all - is more insane than believing in the most insane "conspiracy theory"!@@moiraatkinson

  • @aannddrryyaa
    @aannddrryyaa 4 місяці тому +11

    You know the same argument can be made for King Charles III. As Prince Charles, he was, apparently, quite sensitive, artistic and caring. Prince Philippe insisting he go to his old school, nearly destroyed the gentle soul. I believe Prince Philippe intended to help his son and by no means believe he meant anything but to help Prince Charles toughen up.

    • @kathycoxwell4987
      @kathycoxwell4987 24 дні тому +1

      There are other ways to “ toughen up “ boys without sending them off to schools with antiquated rules and regulations. Charles would have thrived
      at Eton. That world would have been his oyster.

  • @user-rd4eh5gu7e
    @user-rd4eh5gu7e 5 місяців тому +55

    Absolutely no evidence presented. The circumstances of the Sunderland crash are not investigated. Was the plane on course? What was the weather like - specifically the cloud base? Was the plane flying low to verify its position? If it was brought down by a bomb why would this not have been timed to explode over the sea where no evidence would have been left. What happened to the surviving gunner? The issue of the range of the ME 110 is countered by the fact that Hess ordered long range fuel tanks to be fitted to it (I guess someone would say that this was part of the cover up - but it should be mentioned). A coup against Churchill would have taken a lot of planning and would have involved politicians and senior army offices and it would have been very difficult not to leave any evidence. If there was a peace plan organized with the Royal Family why didn't Hess - or any of the other defendants - use this as part of their defense at Nuremburg?

    • @forrestunderwood3174
      @forrestunderwood3174 5 місяців тому +11

      Exactly.

    • @danielabbey7726
      @danielabbey7726 5 місяців тому +7

      Excellent questions!

    • @wekapeka3493
      @wekapeka3493 5 місяців тому +8

      Exactly, this program is ridiculous.

    • @harrickvharrick3957
      @harrickvharrick3957 5 місяців тому +8

      Except for the conspiracy aspect(s) to it this production still does well in another aspect: it paints the picture of George's young life and how he was as a person. Lot of great pieces of contemporary footage. Maybe we should take the rest with a grain of salt, it just may be necessary nowadays to add something like that simply to get (to) the attention of the viewer?

    • @jfryer485
      @jfryer485 5 місяців тому +6

      One clue is that wreckage was over a wide area. This is typical if there was a bomb aboard. It would also make the reason why the survivor wasn’t happy to stay by the plane. Survival instinct normally is stay put unless there is a bigger problem.
      I dont rule any scenario out if reasonable and this is eminently reasonable.
      George V himself has been argued as not a natural death.
      There was talk of a military coup when Harold Wilson was PM etc etc
      One thing I find strange is that I never knew of this person at all not that means much but he does seem to be well hidden for such a colourful character.

  • @WVgirl1959
    @WVgirl1959 4 місяці тому +11

    "A Royal Air Force Board of Inquiry determined that the crash was the result of a navigational error by the crew."
    Prince George and 14 other people died.

    • @shadowshow701
      @shadowshow701 2 місяці тому

      Were they give the right directions at the flight briefing though. Remember what happened in the Mt Erebus disaster

  • @Johnnycdrums
    @Johnnycdrums Місяць тому

    The "Happy Valley Set" were crazy, just crazy.

  • @carmelbrain7399
    @carmelbrain7399 5 місяців тому +11

    Great observations

  • @troynov1965
    @troynov1965 5 місяців тому +29

    34:43 LOL Hess did not fly a ME 262 to England so why even show one? They did not even have a jet powered prototype of the 262 in 41.

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 5 місяців тому +3

      I agree! I think someone didn't look closely at the pics they'd chosen: They saw 2 engines: so thought 'ME 110' They didn't notice: 'Those are jet engines!' {ME 262.}

    • @fokkerd3red618
      @fokkerd3red618 5 місяців тому +4

      They make it appear Hess flew a jet. Which is nonsense. Germany hadn't even developed this jet fighter yet.

    • @briangraham1024
      @briangraham1024 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I agree. Major brain-cramp by the video editor on that one! 😂

  • @judymcgaugh6480
    @judymcgaugh6480 4 місяці тому +5

    Its another mystery that we are not suppose to know the truth about. So we won't.. everyone has their ideas, but the truth is buried .. but maybe one day paperwork will show up with the truth . Right now tho its one of speculation ..

  • @GGsInterests
    @GGsInterests 4 місяці тому +3

    WOW...make some sense out of Hesse's "crazy" trip.

  • @RANDALLBRIGGS
    @RANDALLBRIGGS 5 місяців тому +9

    Rudolf Hess certainly did not fly to Scotland in a Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighter in May 1941 as is shown at 34:45. He was not a pilot and the Me 262 was not in operational service.

    • @annnee6818
      @annnee6818 2 місяці тому +1

      He was in Scotland though, how did he get there?

    • @russyeatman5631
      @russyeatman5631 2 місяці тому

      And, when it was operational it did not have the range to fly to the northern part of Great Britian.

  • @arturs2436
    @arturs2436 4 місяці тому +4

    On 16:50 is mentioned that "Michael went on to marry Laura Charteris Duchess of Marlborough". That is not true has she only got that title, after Michael Canfield died, throught her 4th and final marriage with John Spencer-Churchill, 10th Duke of Marlborough. I also have to note that Kiki Preston is rumored to be his mom, not Violet. So thats up forr debate rather.

  • @colemarsh13
    @colemarsh13 2 місяці тому

    Fascinating

  • @johnhenderson131
    @johnhenderson131 5 місяців тому +24

    Your saying that because Hesse bailed out and his plane crashed the entire mission fell apart? Why wasn’t Hesse sentenced to death at the Nuremberg trials? What kept him quiet then and all those years in Spandau prison. Hesse didn’t just set out without any plan but there’s still information missing. 40:27 As for the prince dying in a plane crash? A lot of planes crashed, especially then and being a member of the Royal family won’t protect you.

    • @BlackStump172
      @BlackStump172 5 місяців тому

      Like Prince Richard .

    • @johnhenderson131
      @johnhenderson131 5 місяців тому +3

      @@BlackStump172 Are you referring to The prince Richard, Duke of York back from back around 1485? The Battle of Bosworth? I like history, mostly military history and I’ve read as much as I can but my knowledge of old royal history is limited so forgive me but your knowledge is obviously greater than mine on the subject of that Prince Richard. I believe he and his brother were both murdered by orders from the Tudors but that about exhausts what I know. I’d appreciate it if you could fill me in on what I don’t know. Sorry, that’s a big task for one person considering how much I don’t know!

    • @BlackStump172
      @BlackStump172 5 місяців тому +4

      @@johnhenderson131 Sorry , I meant Prince William of Gloucester , the older brother of Prince Richard ,the Duke of Gloucester .

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 5 місяців тому +6

      Ask Glen Miller.

    • @HowieHoward-ti3dx
      @HowieHoward-ti3dx 5 місяців тому +3

      Maybe Hess was threatened by the allies that he would be sentenced to death if he opened his mouth. or threatened his family. You never know.

  • @cindchan
    @cindchan 5 місяців тому +6

    In another video, someone said that Edward and George were cut from the same gin-soaked cloth and I've never forgotten that. Personally, I think the crash was an accident.

  • @maryjohnson-hf4hc
    @maryjohnson-hf4hc 2 місяці тому +3

    No smoke without fire?

  • @user-tz5pv6ih7m
    @user-tz5pv6ih7m 3 місяці тому +11

    They appear to be basing the story on the fact that the gunner at the back of the plane tried to get away from the plane as soon as he became conscious. Of course he would. Anyone with only half a mind knows that the plane might explode and anyone in the vicinity would be killed, if not burnt alive. What stands out for me is the amount of money that was scattered around, what was this money for or who was it for? And if there really was a lot of money scattered around why didn't the country folk who first went to the plane help themselves to it? Would they have taken the chance considering they probably knew that the plane could explode? I doubt we will ever know the entire truth of the whole story.

    • @cmclean6475
      @cmclean6475 2 місяці тому +3

      There is a news account I have where it says First Responders also were puzzled at the strong smell of perfume when they arrived!!

    • @seattlebeard
      @seattlebeard 2 місяці тому +4

      Icelandic Krónas wouldn't be much use to anyone in Scotland. And it's unfair to assume locals would steal from a plane crash.

    • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
      @jacksimpson-rogers1069 2 місяці тому +2

      Not too easy to cash kroner in the Highlands of Scotland. It was presumably for spending in Iceland.

    • @crystallineblue4344
      @crystallineblue4344 21 день тому

      The fact that you accuse other people of stealing indicates that You are a dishonest person, capable of thievery.

  • @lindahemi6809
    @lindahemi6809 5 місяців тому +6

    Never heard of this man Prince George the Duke of Kent, until watching this documentary.

    • @jessiejames7492
      @jessiejames7492 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes neither did i. More secrets in the royal family than we know of. Also those of elizabeth boweds lyon’s two aged aunts who died in a home. They were born a bit disadvantaged mentally and they were hidden away. Like one of the queens uncles. Prince john who was born with a medical problem. His nannies raised him. V interested story. Handsome boy. Died young

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 5 місяців тому +9

    The question is, where is thr proof of these claims ?

    • @SacredDreamer
      @SacredDreamer 4 місяці тому +1

      Sealed , or Lost, or Missing.

  • @denisecraig3548
    @denisecraig3548 5 місяців тому +15

    Oh yes! I heard through years of lost “papers” that there was coup underway and Churchill did know about it and DID take some sort of action. When anyone “steps off onto an action like this-anything can and usually does happen”.

    • @cmclean6475
      @cmclean6475 4 місяці тому +2

      Quite a likely version as the Royal Family still has an embargo on the business. Friends in the UK write they can't view this so it must be geo-blocked. The Queen's Lost Uncle, on PG (fascinating Channel4 doco) used to be outside the UK, not sure if still?

    • @julianciahaconsulting8663
      @julianciahaconsulting8663 2 місяці тому +1

      Churchill banishing Edward to Bermuda during the war was one way it was dealt with

    • @DeirdreMcNamara
      @DeirdreMcNamara Місяць тому

      Assassination was not Winnie's style...other parties may have been involved, but I'm out of my depth here, so many fine, genuine experts with hard facts. Intriguing.

  • @luzvaldes1030
    @luzvaldes1030 5 місяців тому +10

    At certain angles, Prince George reminds me so much of Prince William, Duke of Wales…not unsurprising as they are related

    • @janpadilla7811
      @janpadilla7811 4 місяці тому

      I've noticed that as well!. Its a marked resemblance.

    • @janpadilla7811
      @janpadilla7811 4 місяці тому

      I've noticed that as well!. Its a marked resemblance.

    • @piscesempress1978
      @piscesempress1978 4 місяці тому

      When I first saw Prince George, I said, wow he looks so much like William. Both handsome

    • @missytanner3501
      @missytanner3501 Місяць тому +1

      Prince of Wales not Duke

  • @tatuloa
    @tatuloa 5 місяців тому +4

    A sunderland is a pretty reliable flying boat .....

  • @meganlangreck2488
    @meganlangreck2488 5 місяців тому +9

    So there was King George VI, and Prince George, and they were brothers. George and his younger brother George.

    • @marializaregalado6747
      @marializaregalado6747 5 місяців тому +13

      KG6 was born and named Albert I think but took George6 after his father the 5th

    • @lindabidwell6722
      @lindabidwell6722 5 місяців тому +5

      😂 Yes. Like "I'm Darryl, and these are my brothers, Darryl and Darryl ".

    • @DoubleMonoLR
      @DoubleMonoLR 4 місяці тому +3

      They had nothing on George Foreman - one of his daughters is named Georgetta, his sons are named George, George, George, George, and...George (George VI, to make it sound royal).

    • @HH-vv2sk
      @HH-vv2sk 4 місяці тому

      They should add that apart from getting new historical information from this post, you will laugh until your tummy gets sore and everybody will be happy 😅

    • @lorifintel9784
      @lorifintel9784 2 місяці тому

      ​@@lindabidwell6722😂 now that's a throwback!

  • @patriciatoomingtheplantpar2558
    @patriciatoomingtheplantpar2558 5 місяців тому +33

    So I'm assuming that there is no accessible history of the gunners recount of the events anywhere. Did he not have any information passed along? Family friends, notes in Bibles, diary's, NOTHING?
    Did he end up dying in hospital or did he live on?
    Ugh... COME ON

    • @denisecraig3548
      @denisecraig3548 5 місяців тому +8

      I agree, there MUST be more information SOMEWHERE???!!!! Come one--????

    • @silverc4s146
      @silverc4s146 4 місяці тому +7

      Sounds like he was required to sign the official secrets act. He could never speak of this after that happens.

    • @jeffreygoyen1309
      @jeffreygoyen1309 4 місяці тому +7

      correct. My father ( brother of the deceased pilot, my uncle Frank ) visited Andy Jack ( tail turret operator ) post WW2 in Scotland. Jack confirmed he was sworn under the Official Secrets Act to reveal pretty much nothing....

  • @HonestlyYours516
    @HonestlyYours516 4 місяці тому +3

    Fascinating video.

  • @josehurtado2782
    @josehurtado2782 2 місяці тому +2

    Has this painful story anything to do with the strange death ,many years later, of Rudolf Hess at the Spandau prison in Berlin?

  • @danutat9915
    @danutat9915 5 місяців тому +4

    Very interesting thank you. 🇨🇦✌

  • @michaelgabriel7919
    @michaelgabriel7919 5 місяців тому +8

    I saw this item in my suggested feed... and I was curious. I've never heard of the Duke of Kent (at least that one).
    After watching... I was curious.. it all sounds so intriguing... so scandalous... and so radical.
    The British royal family conspiring with Nazis... planning a coup d'état... it seem so crazy.
    BUT... Why was were the royals involved? The suspiciousness of the events... the players present... the circumstances... the apparent cover-up.
    And then there are ALL the unanswered questions... and the sloppy cover story and follow-ups.

    • @DeirdreMcNamara
      @DeirdreMcNamara Місяць тому

      They keep their German traditions, cost five hundred million sterling to maintain annually, and so on.Vic und Albrecht spoke exclusively in German to one another, etc.

  • @sheilabernadetteclairemcin1107
    @sheilabernadetteclairemcin1107 5 місяців тому +6

    Never heard of him before this ......

  • @Horgi-vv2kh
    @Horgi-vv2kh 2 місяці тому +3

    Well what happened to the guy who survived the crash is there no information from him where is it all ?

    • @jeanmesseih3963
      @jeanmesseih3963 2 місяці тому +3

      If you scroll all the way back to the beginning of the comments, you will find one from jackgoyen1309 (if my memory serves me correctly). He tells us that after the war, his father, (cousin to the pilot) visited the Sgt who told him absolutely nothing. Someone else also made a similar comment. So at least we know that he survived the war - even though he had no information to pass on

    • @Horgi-vv2kh
      @Horgi-vv2kh 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jeanmesseih3963 Thank you !

    • @cassandratq9301
      @cassandratq9301 Місяць тому +1

      He signed a confidentiality agreement with the government, but may not have had anything useful to tell, anyway. Papers still sealed.

  • @OscarRodriguez-ys1bf
    @OscarRodriguez-ys1bf 5 місяців тому +21

    Inaccurate! Prince George died in 1942. Kiki Preston died in 1946. He was not changed because her passing. He died first!

    • @peachygal4153
      @peachygal4153 4 місяці тому +4

      that was not said. It said she got him addicted and she later committed suicide.

    • @idw9159
      @idw9159 4 місяці тому

      you are correct, the documentary implies she and others died in the 30s changing prince george; wikipedia indicates michael canfield was considered by edward viii to be the illegitimate son of prince george and kiki preston, so something else may be inconsistent; canfield died in 1969 aged 43 of a heart attack on a plane trip; he was formerly married to jackie kennedy's sister

  • @carinakaron8068
    @carinakaron8068 5 місяців тому +4

    All conjecture

  • @klaushaunstrupchristensen7252
    @klaushaunstrupchristensen7252 4 місяці тому +8

    Sounds to speculative for me. There’s one year and three months between Hess’s flight and the death of Prince George. By the way I am absolutely convinced Hess did flew without anyone in Germany knowing. Had it been an arranged trip he would have been flown incognito to a country of neutrality like Sweden or Switzerland. And why would George try to bring the UK out of the war at this late stage, after the USA had entered the war? In my mind it was an accident.

  • @olympiahendrix4392
    @olympiahendrix4392 6 днів тому

    Hess flight has never made sense. This explains a lot and makes more sense.

  • @user-nf6zs4sw7y
    @user-nf6zs4sw7y 5 місяців тому +3

    This is SILLY

  • @jeannadriver9552
    @jeannadriver9552 2 місяці тому +5

    Wow, Prince George MAJORLY looks like Prince Andrew! Incredible...

  • @isilder
    @isilder 4 місяці тому +6

    He was being sent to Iceland to get him out of the way, to an isolated place, where he could be watched and kept safe. They got Edward out of the way by sending him away to somewhere isolated too... Its just an accident.. the pilot may have known that continuing on would surely result in impact with terrain , so he took the chance to try to drop down below the clouds and then avoid the hills .

    • @helenorgarycrevonis2022
      @helenorgarycrevonis2022 2 місяці тому +3

      interesting, and has a ring of common sense.

    • @russyeatman5631
      @russyeatman5631 2 місяці тому

      And perhaps to negotiate for concession to allow Allies to build aerodrome and naval base to close the "mid Atlantic gap" where Allied aircraft could not cover convoys to Murmansk which were helping to keep the Soviets in the war. Britain and USA needed Soviets to stay in war. Without Soviet pressure in the East tying up infantry and armor units the DD landing might have been pushed back into the Channel.

  • @carolking6355
    @carolking6355 5 місяців тому +9

    This is wonderful but while I am only half way through I need to contradict the comment that Britain declared war on Germany. The fact was that Britain was told if they did not hear from Germany by a certain time they would be at war with Germany. Britain heard nothing and declared because of this they were at war with Germany. This is quite different. Am so enjoying this regarding Prince George . Who I see as a sweet man so far, I will return to the story.

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 5 місяців тому +6

      Leaving out the causal invasion of ally Poland makes UK look aggressive.

    • @davidlogan4329
      @davidlogan4329 4 місяці тому

      @@michaelplunkett8059 it was not a casual invasion. It was deliberately planned.

  • @fiachramaccana280
    @fiachramaccana280 2 місяці тому +3

    It was a tragic accident. End of.

  • @SubCultureVulture702
    @SubCultureVulture702 3 місяці тому +3

    Was anyone else distracted by the man having the blue tape holding his glasses together ?

  • @847Carole
    @847Carole 4 місяці тому +9

    THe Duke of Kent was a party person but he was not a traitor.

  • @johnvonundzu2170
    @johnvonundzu2170 4 місяці тому +7

    Strange that here the then prince of Wales is repeatedly called "Edward". No one called him that - except very officially.

    • @linshore7451
      @linshore7451 3 місяці тому +3

      Only family called him David.

  • @Ira88881
    @Ira88881 5 місяців тому +14

    Can someone explain this to me about Hess?
    Wasn’t he imprisoned before the genocide began, and tried to make peace with England?
    So why did he get a life sentence?

  • @susannaemmerich1166
    @susannaemmerich1166 2 місяці тому +3

    Well if you u look at what has happened since and is going on today, there is nou doubt in my mind, there was foul play. My opinion.🙃🎶🎶🎶🙏

  • @robertballard8833
    @robertballard8833 4 місяці тому +2

    Rare Selmer Cigar Cutter Alto Sax @ 6:35

  • @prairiehills416
    @prairiehills416 4 місяці тому +3

    Assination. The only survivor, terriot gunner, ran from tge accident scene. Subsequently, signed a Confidentiality Agreement to keep his mouth shut. Or, ?????

  • @johnholmes6897
    @johnholmes6897 4 місяці тому +2

    War birds were built fast for obvious reasons. Lots of them went down without being shot down.

  • @dreamsrmadeof
    @dreamsrmadeof 5 місяців тому +8

    I wonder why British shows have such loud background music?

    • @howardsimpson489
      @howardsimpson489 5 місяців тому +1

      And why they have such beautifully pronounced BS.

  • @tnteachertim
    @tnteachertim Місяць тому +1

    Can it really be called an attempted "Coup", when the peacemaker is of the Royal Family, and the warmonger is not?

    • @cassandratq9301
      @cassandratq9301 Місяць тому

      Yes!
      It's an attempted overthrow of the duly-elected government.

  • @raynonabohrer5624
    @raynonabohrer5624 5 місяців тому +9

    What happened to his family.?? He had three children.?

    • @Ira88881
      @Ira88881 5 місяців тому +3

      The kids are still alive, I believe. I Wiki’d it recently.

    • @user-fm5jk8gc9n
      @user-fm5jk8gc9n 5 місяців тому +10

      Prince Edward Duke of Kent is the wee baby in the video, he is very old now with his wife being the oldest member of the royal family living, His sister is Princess Alexandra and his brother is Prince Micheal of Kent
      Their mother was left a war widow
      Prince Edward Duke of Kent is still offically a working royal and you can see him along with his sister in the corrination photos of King Charles
      Prince Edward Duke of Kent recently released his memories, it was a very enjoyable read

    • @dorothywillms115
      @dorothywillms115 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Ira88881 goodness gracious they are old now but were at the kings coronation. Princess Alexandra was very close to the Queen and was the princess Royal for some time. Rightly respected,all of them. Read up on your history.

    • @Ira88881
      @Ira88881 5 місяців тому +3

      @@dorothywillms115 I can’t say for SURE they’re all still alive, but I saw a recent video which said yes.
      But it’s not my history.
      I’m an American and think the Monarchy is a joke…a joke that a lot of Brits just don’t get.

    • @xxxxxxxxx3944
      @xxxxxxxxx3944 5 місяців тому

      Alexandra was the late queen's only female cousin on her father's side. ​@@dorothywillms115

  • @PaulineYao-dx1co
    @PaulineYao-dx1co 4 місяці тому +2

    This prince is very handsome.

    • @davidlogan4329
      @davidlogan4329 4 місяці тому

      He looked like his grandmother, Queen Alexandra.

  • @goldsburypeter116
    @goldsburypeter116 4 місяці тому +3

    Is the person who wrote the English subtitles a naive speaker of English? There are so many mistakes that this seems very unlikely.

  • @stevep5408
    @stevep5408 Місяць тому +1

    An example to the royal family by the security servicesll?

  • @forrestunderwood3174
    @forrestunderwood3174 5 місяців тому +5

    I'm American, but a big fan of British style documentaries. This, unfortunately, seems more like the American style of documentary. The dark music, the dramatic narration...meh. I'll give one more a try.

    • @howardsimpson489
      @howardsimpson489 5 місяців тому +1

      Don't bother.

    • @mandywalkden-brown7250
      @mandywalkden-brown7250 5 місяців тому +1

      And utter lack of facts. Quite ridiculous, it’s really irritating me. Not going to make it past halfway.

  • @winkieblink7625
    @winkieblink7625 4 місяці тому +3

    Is there evidence Prince George and Rudolph Hess can be connected?

  • @danetteperez3863
    @danetteperez3863 5 місяців тому +6

    Was it at night?

  • @prizecowproductions
    @prizecowproductions 5 місяців тому +14

    To put things in context The Russian KGB files were opened up for scrutiny why is it the British Security Service is unwilling to do the same.
    It prompts me to think Queen Elizabeth 2 knew the family history and worked 3 times as hard for her loyal subjects. Speculation yes but is it that far from possibility.
    Aussie Jeff Moore

    • @brentvfreiberger
      @brentvfreiberger 5 місяців тому +4

      former КГБ files were opened after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The British Royal Family still holds the throne.

    • @cassandratq9301
      @cassandratq9301 Місяць тому

      Yes!