The Boiled One Phenomenon and The Downfall of Analog Horror
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- In this video we look at how analog horror seems to be going on a downward spiral. If you liked this video checkout my other content, and expect way more stuff coming soon, as I'm trying to get back into the mood for video making.
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Doctor Nowhere doesn’t actually consider it analog horror - he’s more of a surrealist artist with a horror bent if you’ve followed him for a while. The boy and the bath is a commentary on PTSD. Obviously there’s an analog horror format to the boiled one, but just to throw out there his intent has never been jump scares or analog horror per se
ye I also agree
Ok, but if that wasn't the artist intent, than it was clearly lost. It uses many visual design motifes and story beats common with analog horror, even if that wasn't the orignal artists intent, it still came out as analog horror in the final product.
@@ABAShortfilms hey I just wanted u to know that I like ur content
@@ABAShortfilmsI honestly disagree with a lot of this video, and part of it IS this point, dr nowhere doesn’t consider this analog horror, and it fundamentally isn’t analog horror
What he did was basically his own take on an SCP file in video format, the backwards talk thing is to protect the viewer from the cognitihazard and that even gets turned in its head beat the end of the video
If this is analog horror then a bunch of earlier UA-cam horror is also analog horror, but considering other comments you’ve responded to, you don’t believe that to be the case, so it seems you just think this is analog horror because it’s recent and popular
Hell everything about the way this is supposed to scare you betrays everything we’re know about AH, the “monster” being revealed so early is on purpose even, it’s supposed to be like reading an SCP file with pictures of the SCP, just as a video, it’s just supposed to display the anomalous phenomenon and its history, with it being believed that the mere image of the creature will not affect people as long as the source material is altered in some way which makes the message indecipherable, otherwise using the video to show people what to avoid so they aren’t affected
And where this shines is how it’s meant to effect the viewer, it’s not supposed to be scary, it’s speed to be disturbing and uneasy, cause dread and anxiety, and it’s best at doing that after multiple viewings of it, like for example if it were to go viral enough for people to review it and you watch a review, then go down a rabbit hole because of the algorithm (which you play into this with this video)
And the “scare” comes after all that, not while viewing, to explain I’ll give my own experience with it
I went down a rabbit hole of BOP a while ago, some of which was while high which may have been a mistake and not the first time I’ve made such one, and through those basically saw the entire video, even the full party at the end where the BO seems to overpower the containment procedure and show you his video in full unholy glory (I mentioned this earlier in this post). It didn’t scare me when viewing it at all, it was just mildly unsettling but cool (I like horror and line watching disturbing films). But the striking, uncanny, gruesome creature, paired with the unnatural mouth movements, the twitching, the rhythmic almost ai generated horns, the monotone and robotic voice, the message, it all still did affect me. Where the real scare comes in was later that night and the following few days. Yes, the initial viewings of TBOP were not at all frightening, what was was that AFTER the viewings when I was just minding my own business, in the corner of my eye, or in shadow, or even when blinking or closing my eyes, I would see him. The boiled one was just right there. Sometimes even my brain would conjure up more and I’d faintly hear the sound of those rhythmic horns, when I tried to sleep I’d see the natural movement of its jaw, and in the very back of my mind was the subconscious reminder of the effects of the cognitohazard as described by the video. Even now, just watching this video of your critique of it got me thinking about it again, and thus after viewing, when I close my eyes, I see the boiled one.
Especially for neurodivergent people and those with certain types of mental illnesses, Dr nowhere has effectively constructed a legitimate memetic cognitohazard, only difference is, fortunately due to the fact it’s not real, and as you can see from the fact I replied to you, I and anyone else who has viewed it have not become paralysed.
But yeah, the boiled one phenomenon along with the rest of the dr’s work are along the best UA-cam horror of recent times, and the way it’s intended to scare you isn’t first viewing or even the monster reveal itself, it’s the implications of the story paired with its virality likely causing you to directly and/or undetected watch it multiple times, all leading up to a moment in which you think you’ve forgotten about it and moved on, minding your own business, only to look through the corner of your eye in peripherals, or to blink, and see him, followed but anxiety, dread, and paranoia washing over you with the thought of “oh god, Was that video actually real”
i normally don’t comment on criticism, but i do have to say just as a point to everyone- i agree with many of the points you made in this video, but one thing i will say is that many see horror work and think of it as inadequacy when in reality- it’s just art. that’s all it’s supposed to be.
not trying to innovate a genre here, i just enjoy making things that make you squirm and sharing them on the internet :^)
Entirely valid, I hope you enjoyed the video, and hope to see a lot of great content come from you in the future. I think you have great potential and I think your monster designs are top tier, and as a horror film maker myself I get the love for making people spooked. Best of luck on your future projects
OMG DOCTOR NOWHERE YOU ARE MY INSPIRATION. I wanna learn to draw horror creatures like The Boiled One and Locust.
I think the boiled ones design is more like a divine "Be not afraid" horror, he somewhat resembles Christ with thorns coming from his head and the extended appendage where the spear was inflicted. His monotone speech is cool from the enlightened archetype of forbidden passages that are revealed trough experience and corrupted discomfort, yet he wants to lead and to heard. The horror is from a sense of morbid holiness that reminds me of the Cenobites from Hellraiser or Paimon from Hereditary.
The boiled one is one of my favorites because of the design, but also the actual story itself within the video with the stuff about Watanabe is really creative to me
Completely fair, glad you are able to enjoy it!
I definitely agree also also one thing I don't like about the boiled one Is that he's on The Thumbnail kind of ruining the Surprise don't get me wrong it was still scary
I think what makes the boiled one so great and terrifying isn’t what is shown it’s what is implied instead it try’s to disturb you instead of scaring you, the implications are just stunning
And yeah, you could say all you want about the monster design being generic but I disagree it’s meant to represent the invasive plant in the nature documentary not because it is but it’s representing how the creature has invaded the environment it’s tall and spiky kinda like the invasive species in the documentary the wannabe bird hope I didn’t butcher that… is a war criminal and heavily implied to be the entity and he was known for fleeing to America in and kinda like the plant to summarize what I’m trying to say the implications and finding out the story with subtle clues, makes it even better and more fun the entire sequence with the boiled one or phen228 speaking with clips showing someone who is most likely Job being looked down upon by this burnt fucking meatball as it slowly unhinges its jaw. It’s just so disturbing and it only gets worse. If you reverse the clip the way the boiled one talks a fret he’s just saying what’s going to happen and that’s what makes it even scarier is the way he says it makes it feel like there’s nothing you can do. “When the doctors eventually find you, they will not see me, but I will. I see you forever. I’ll see you” something like that is just so disturbing. that’s what makes the series so great implications and finding out the story you could say that it’s a little generic and you’re right, but it has aspects that make it stand out piles of slop doctor nowhere has other videos Than this in my opinion toe is mid but the boy in the bath masters everything great I mentioned about the boiled one, I know you’re not gonna change your mind, but I just wanted to give my opinion. I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy it though absolutely liking and subscribing
I'm pretty sure Doctor Nowhere mentioned this wasn't an analog horror and mainly just a short horror story, I think.
It uses the same visual motifes and story beats of analog horror within it's presentation, many people would consider it analog horror even if that's not the orignal intent.
curious on why you put Room in the thumbnail, Boisvert isnt' mentioned in this video, its surrealist art not horror
The one thing I like a lot ‘bout the boiled one, and dr nowhere’s entire catalogue of art, is the surrealism. I’ve been a sucker for surrealist art for years, only growing further once I saw beksinski and the “weirdcore/dreamcore” internet art, and while admittedly the story isn’t the best story wise, I mainly appreciated it for how good it is outside if it (even inspired me some as well), plus his other pieces as well were similarly eerie.
Excuse the length and ramblings of my comment here, but I can’t bring myself to dislike TBOP, even if the story ain’t the best I admit I even like the story too.
The design is great, but personally I can't look at the Boiled One seriously ever since I heard them described as a "biblically accurate sausage"
i think the boiled one is a very scary character design wise but it being revealed before I even start watching the video gets rid of most of the horror of the reveal.
Yeah, I agree, the fact that there's no suspense behind the design really ruins the horror of it for me
I think your missing the point (not of this video) dani, its fine for it to be on the thumbnail cause it doesn't ruin any story whatsoever. Maybe if you pay attention to the story instead of the characters design then you can see that its scary
Doctor Nowhere's videos are phenomenal and while I agree with what you're saying,I still love TBOP because it cranks the normal concept of analog horror to 11. It really terrifies me how PHEN-228 gets in your head because the concept of being cursed from watching something applies to TBOP but it's a lot worse because instead of just dying, the punishment is basically eternal torture.
Completely fair, what I find scary and what others find scary are two different things. So glad you are able to be scared by it! Hope you enjoyed the video
I like things like The Boiled One’s literal crown of thorns and the fact that this thing is literally massive, but at the same time, the whole “Knowing about this in and of itself is dangerous” thing is kinda played out. Like, SCP does it all the time, horror media has been doing it in various ways for decades, and like hundreds of projects like this think it’s “new” or “revolutionary”, and it all depends on execution. Like, I could literally go get on my DSi RIGHT NOW and watch The June Archive and go through the whole Memory Virus thing, but that series still has characters and things happening and a plot, and it’s really well done for a series made on mid 2000’s Nintendo hardware. I can basically summarize half of these series with one simple phrase:
You just lost the game
That one criticism you have about the monsters in these videos reminded me of something my grandpa told me about horror movies. He said that old horor films hardly ever showed the monsters or killing people, he said it left it up to your imagination.
Dreams of an Insomniac is easily the best Analog Horror in years
honestly, i love the boiled one, doctor nowhere makes some genuinely creative monster designs, even if it has tropes thrown in. but yeah, it is a bit tropey, with the datamoshing and "spoopy gorey monster", but, hey, i still love doctor nowheres content. he clearly has a very creative mind, with adding history (with watanabe) and the 7 trumpets of revolution into the boiled one which, from what i know, horror hasn't really done that much with them. gives me some major russian sleep experiment vibes with the history connections
Perfectly valid, this is all just my opinion so what scares me might not scare others and what I enjoy others might not. Glad you are able to enjoy it.
@@ABAShortfilms perfectly valid of your opinion, i personally like urbanspooks villain as a concept, but hate the execution urbanspook had and what he did with the painter
How is the boiled one an example of bad horror? I haven't slept in 3 days because of this thing. The issues weren't even issues, man. And I'm not even easily scared.
Because ur either 12 or the most sensitive human being on the planet being scared of something not real is embarrassing
Nah you just must be easily scared if it affected you to this extent, either that or you're a kid who's first "horror experience" has been this analog crap.
Get better standards, watch good old horror movies and you'll see what i mean.
@@sooz6092 I(18f) have general psychosis and this fed into my hallucinations. A lot of people with schizophrenia, general psychosis and other similar conditions are known to be more prone to this type of horror. I watch horror movies and analog horror and all this stuff and TBO has probably been the only related trigger I've experienced. It's fine if you (most likely neurotypical) are not a huge fan of it, but being scared by something that isn't scary to you doesn't make someone easily scared. *you* are the one with weird standards here.
@@bethanyboarder7751 Why did you even bother asking ChatGPT to type that for you if it's to spout so much nonsense and call me neurotypical like it changes ( or means) anything, you're funny.
Just admit you like low hanging fruit horror and move on kid, there is no need to be this melodramatic about a goofy looking photoshopped monster with derivative design in a badly written horror series.
@@sooz6092 Y'know some people actually have writing skills, right? I'm also betting the real reason you hate TBO is because it's popular. You really strike me as one of those people. Do us all a favor. Stop the parrot talk, take a shower, go outside, and touch some grass. It's not a hard thing to do. Things ain't so bad.
I remember a lot of analog horror being independent artists just filming something like a project out of fun. I think in doctor nowhere's case it's similar! A lot of things get out under the analog horror umbrella because it's simply scary video format. But we also have to remember, that scary short form videos don't need to be analog horror! A lot of it can just be a artistic scare. I think their channel is very obvious in the depiction of their creativity! (best example is their Twitter in my opinion, as it shows some more artistic pieces that I think are scary. But not analog horror)
I just wish we could define analog horror into different parts, because independent artists who have fun shouldn't be compared to people who write a excessive story in the image of analog horror. I loved your video though!
Another add on! I think it's really hard for people to enjoy the similar horrors (I find a lot of analog horror very boring) if they see one and then get to what is counted as "the best" they might find it boring. I absolutely dislike Grey lock tapes, I find it long boring and just hard to find terrifying, same with gemini home entertainment, that's because I find long series so agonizing. I learned with tight pace analog horror.
Always a good day when you uploaded man keep up the good content 😁
Thank you! Glad you still enjoy it!
The boiled one is derivative of rokkos basilisk, which was a terrifying idea, and it is most definitely analogue horror. Its fine if the creator says it isn't analogue horror, but cmon, its obviously heavily influenced by it. I agree with your take.
analog horror being so abundant that you dont find it scary any more doesnt make something inherently bad. imagine someones first analog horror was the boiled one, they found it scary and really well made, and then later on they discover the mandela catalogue and think it sucks and has little to no fear value. does that make the mandela catalogue bad?
I think that the genre has potential, people just need to bend the rules and allow themselves to be more slow-burn with the story. The monster shouldn't be the focus of every story, because the monster isn't scary unless you know the characters who are impacted by the monster. Like im not super impressed by The Boiled One, but I like the artistic direction and how experimental it is. The issue is is that most of the real cutting edge stuff isn't pushed to the top because it's too different for most viewers.
Like I been keeping up with the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Analog Horror scene for a minute atp and outside of Junius B (which I think was the one of the earliest JJBA analog horror series, it's also the only really noteworthy and interesting one), most JoJo's Bizarre Adventure analog horrors are just mandela catalogue clones. It's still nice to see a new lane in Analog Horror so I just kinda accept that stuff wlll be derivative. There are innovators and people who do new things but a lot of creators in the analog horror scene don't have enough general creative experience to make something without a blueprint.
I personally want to see an analog horror that is set in the modern day (season two of the Mandela catalog tries this by implying that it takes place in 2020) I feel like it would be really interesting especially since some people could still have an analog film camera sitting around at home and I want analog horror to prove that it isn't just freeze frames it's actual videos that doesn't need jump scares
Great video. I can't argue with your points because im somewhat relatively new to the analog horror. What i think about the boiled one phenomenon is yes it isn't scary but to me it was meant be more creepy than anything like his other videos and i think he nailed it. Because it tells you what happened and show you what caused it. By showing you the tweaked broadcast and later it just full blown talk to you just gives you that creepy vibe of what will happen to you since your not protected by the people who made the video. But my only problem is that you had to read. It just doesn't keep the creepy vibe imo. But it was good not keeping me up at night good but it make me feel unsettled when im awake.
Honestly once MC, Walten fules and greylock finish we won't have anything good.
Urbanspook is just downright degenerate, exploitative and god knows what else.
Other analogues just try and be MC all over again.
And yeh that's it
man in the suit, winter of 83, the new batman analog that came out recently, white stag, midnight angelica
good series are still coming out, just because one dud series exists doesnt make the genre dead
Those are all almost a half year old except for the man in the suit and the batman one, which while the man in the suit is quite good, I wouldn't really say the same for the new batman one. Tried watching it and it's the same old stuff.
@@ABAShortfilms the genre just needs a new series to be popular and tbh i hope the batman series evolves to that or hell even midwest angelica since both are amazing conceptually. i have hope
I have hope, but I think as of right now we haven't had a good mix of a good concept and good execution for a while now. A lot of the series gave a good concept but fall flat with execution as they fall into the tired old cliches that we've seen for years now. That's why I'm worried about it's future, and while I haven't given up on it per say, as I think the latest TMITS episode is quite good, I just think its lookin a little grim. Creepypastas had a very similar fate which is why I think we need a back to basics or smt crazy innovative in order to keep this going before it crashes and burns like creepypastas did if that makes sense :).
@@ABAShortfilms I understand that but realize that this has happened with analog horror before. twice imo. the genre seemed stale after mandela vol 3 and walten ep3? bam! vita carnis came out, brought in a whole new era of analog horror, smile tapes, the real, doors, white stag? after which was calming down…BAM! greylock blew up and had a huge impact on the genre, and unfortunately so did urbanspook. i firmly think the only benefit the latter series has given is that it’s probably the reason stuff like the man in the suit exists. what i see is that there will be another one of those popular series. the community just has to recognize it
i do agree with a lot of your concerns with analog horror, i want to make my own sort of form of it but im scared its going to be lumped into analog horror or arg against my will.
Even if you dont see this since this is an old video, i do want to point out.
Phen-228 is speaking backwards when we first see him because the people who produced the video to be put out so you can see the entity to know what to avoid said they reversed it, they reversed it and dampened the audio to avoid you from getting basically infected. weather you undo their edits is up to you but its say that they did it for your protection, so it was there with a purpose.
that is my only thing, otherwise i agree with your points. well made video, i hope i can take this sorta critism and try to apply it to my writing before i release it.
For me, it’s the tts voices. And currently, how they’ll censor words like kill
Agreed with pretty much everything, only thing i don't agree with is the boiled one design being "scary" or "good".
It suffers from tropes as much as the story itself, it's a goofy tall monster with big googly eyes and huge mouth, i can only see this type of monster design so much before finding incredibly fucking goofy and funny looking.
Fair, it depends on the person, I personally didn't mind the design but I can see how if you watched a lot of analog horror it can be kinda derivative and tiresome
What's wrong with big mouths? Better to eat you with.
I don't think he's even going for Analog Horror, his entire aesthetic and video format harkens back to stuff like Username 666 from back when UA-cam was young.
The Boiled One uses the same format that much of analog horror media uses. It's widely considered analog horror for a reason.
@@ABAShortfilms so, is Username 666 retroactively Analog Horror? Is it Digital Horror?
Neither, it would just be a horror video.
@@ABAShortfilmsExecpt... Username 666 is digital horror. It's setting is literally on a website dude.
havent watched the video yet, just a question though, why is the boiled one getting so famous? It looks like your generic analog horror or whatever it is but for some reason it really has a lot of hype no idea why though, no problem with it too i'm glad they're getting famous just wondering how
my guess is that its the design of the monster itself but im not really sure
I'm guessing you haven't even watched the video. (Not this video)Its got a good story and its not famous just cause its got a scary face
@@User_1-ub4lm idk about the story part but so far we just got vids of a dude going out of the tv some random hearts and a tutorial of how to do something or whatever but ok...
@@cassiovieiraferreira9926 the TOE videos im pretty sure aren't part of the boiled one, it's just a small series that's unrelated
It stared with the TOE videos, of course because of that then this would also get eyes on it. It's also the closes to an analog horror, so it has more instant familiarity.
It's a shame that's what they are known for, the boy in the bath was peak.
I'm not saying this applies to The Boiled One specifically, but my biggest problem with most Analog Horror that comes out these days is it's either biblical horror or "alien creatures that replace humans". It's all been done before by Mandela Catalogue and Local 58/Gemini Home Entertainment and I'm kind of tired of it, to be honest. I wish analog horror creators would try to do something different. MC, L58, GHE and even Kane Pixels' Backrooms series blew up because they were original, not because they were copying something else. With these new series, you kinda know exactly where the story's going to go before you even watch it, because it's the same stuff as the series you've watched before. At this point, it's just boring.
I think you bring up a lot of good points but with a poor example. I get the critiques to the boiled one phenomenon but I also think that a better example of the over all issues in the series that you're pointing out would be series like the one from Urban Spook.
I also think it's interesting how much more of an art show analog horror is turning into. As the genre progresses it seems to be splitting off into story heavy or art heavy horror with some really good in between like Greylock and Gemini Home Entertainment.
I agree with a lot of the points you are bringing up, but for the video I covered the boiled one, because I don't actively dislike it, and wanted to point out how there's still many things about analog horror I like. But also the boiled one seems to have a lot of the issues I have with analog horror more so than any of the other cases. Also, while I dislike Urban Spooks videos way more than anything Doctor Nowhere has done, I think Urban Spook has been covered to death already as to why it's bad, while most people seem to be completely disregarding the many flaws of the boiled one for its character design. Which while frightening, the visuals are only half of the video, and while the visual half is good, the story half I would say isn't, but that's just my thoughts.
Urban Spook is low hanging fruit well by this point. The guy himself said the point of what he was doing was to get exposure for his art. He wasn't setting out to be a content creator, though Wendigoon felt he had potential if he actually tried. I felt the same way watching the one video with the woman trapped in the bathroom. It might have been a good idea and fluke it turned out so well, but the fact he pulled off the character's terror and sound design was good. It was far too shock horror as a series to be taken seriously with the rest that blatantly do what the last guy did in tropes or overall.
Horror art is niche to be sure, so I'm not sure how far that can carry before it ends up in the predicament of modern art and just is bizarre, abstract for the sake of. Many also stick to designs in horror considered creepy from Creepypasta days; tall, skinny, no face, big eyes or too many teeth. It's not gone far from Slender Man. The art has to go together with the storytelling and not just the story be background to an exhibition.
And of COURSE now hes selling a boiled one plushie 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Your not forced to buy it bruh.
4:37 18 years
They were probably 17 at the time.
Ho sorry
Boiled one is frend :)
I love cognito hazards
While I disagree with Walten Files being a good example of analog horror done right, I pretty much agree with everything else in this video. Boiled One is like an non-offensive version of UrbanSpook's The Painter with how the quality of the art noticeably exceeds the quality of the writing and use of said art.
Am I the only one who thinks the boiled one videos without audio just looks goofy?
No, not at all
I know how to fix this...
Go back to 2020.
Didn’t doctor nowhere say that the boiled one isn’t analog horror?
Religious imagery, the best friend of horror writers with zero imagination
I agree completely, it was massively boring and the start was soooooo drawn out and cliché. One thing to note is that the author is also an asshole, and so are his followers. So one bonus point for another generic, poorly written analog horror project. Seriously, why can't these gen z horror writers of today ever keep their mouth shut? It's clout chasing all around. As people say, don't ever know your heroes. This isn't just worse than the Lacey videos.
Hey how do you feel about morley Grove
I've actually never heard of that one. I'll check it out
@@ABAShortfilmsit's made by the same person who made Gemini Home Entertainment
Sounds good, I'll have to watch it sometime
@@lastbreath9868 Thanks for this. Never heard of it.
@blumiu2426 no problem
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THEY STEALING THE MANDELA CATALOGUE
How?
They arnt
Arent*