Brake pad based clutch disc - will it work?
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I think the muffler falling off actually improved the viewing experience. It made it much easier to hear the vehicle as well as the voice over.
@@wolfiemel1223I’m happy for the voiceover, but if you want them in Russian, they post these on their Russian language channel without the voiceover. You can use autogenerated subtitles, but to be honest those are a mess.
I agree all his vids needs the muff gone.
That poor cameraman's just running up and down the street.🤣🤣🤣
meh it happens🤣🤣🤣
Three puck cluches = super aggressive, the less contact patch you have, the harder it will bite.
story of my life haha!
The reference he made to the episode where they made their own ceramic clutch, I saw that episode, the results shocked me. The fact that they even achieved it blew my mind and it's characteristics were really interesting. Unsurprisingly though, eventually the very delicate porcelain broke.
you could pretty much use anything, alot of clamping force on the pressure plate
@@aeroflopper That's not the point though. The point was that he made a ceramic clutch. Not a clutch made out of some kind of clamp you're referring to... I understand how a clutch works, generally all of us here do I would imagine.. which isn't my point.
I haven't viewed the video yet but I say guaranteed it will work
It worked to a point and that was with a simple tile. Imagine if they ground the tile to powder and mixed that into carbon/resin.
I think it would work very well - at the expense of increased flywheel wear.
@@garygermain1446 It's an excellent one, I highly recommend it. With how fragile ceramic is I'm shocked they got it to work at all, but they did
Looks a LOT like my 225mm race puc clutch. It engages HARD. Trans mounts love it...
Edit - I actually cleared my storage garage and I did find exactly that - two brake pads and an old clutch set. Difference is I threw it all in the parts car. As in, loosely inside it somewhere.
puck style clutches and big cams are the worst for stop-go traffic lol.
@@i_woke_up_in_a_new_buggati Big cams are fine if you raise the idle
@WolfieMel English?
@@DarkLinkAD Nah…. Lower the idle to the point it almost stalls with every lope. 😁
I haven't viewed the video yet but I say it will definitely work
Id be interested to see the parts after the test. Excellent vid! Thanks!
I have changed a lot button clutches on semis they look just like this, this clutch should last for a long time. Maybe try removing the steel backing of the brake pad and bolt or epoxy them to the plate to shed weight.
good ideas come from experimenting like u guys do , always good content in each episode very enjoyable .
When I changed my clutch. It was really rough and weird feeling for a while. I also put a rebuilt trans in there at the same time. Everything felt weird. After a few hundred miles it was right as rain.
Aye just subscribed to drift taxi love to see the progression yall bin the goats🎉🐐
Basically it is the same material
reported for accuracy
Yes but also no
Yes and no
Not quite.
Its almost the same, but the connecting material and how rough the material is is different
I love how far you take that car to the extreme. It proves to be a legendary project, much different from what we have today in the markets. Because it could break through the barrier of time, adverse conditions and use. Maybe it's not fancy or safe as modern cars, but it surely can take it hard!!!
that brake pad clutch needs more brake pads🤣
Y’all are awesome!! Love it!!
haven't seen a video from you in ages glad to see you in my notifications again
Good job keep it up showing us new ideas
You should make a wheel with springs in the inner diameter instead of the outer diameter. They'll be really small pieces. Weld them from the hub to the rim. I believe that should respond much better, because you are working with opposing forces which help "balance" the wheel
I believe it'll work beautifully looks good
Tumbs up for the camera guy running behind the car😂❤
I just love these guys.
Great video you guys always have great content. Cheers from Canada 🍻
it feels notchy and doesn't give you a gear because you removed the dampening springs from the center of the clutch, those are important
To compensate for the added inertia from the spinning break use magnetic power to reduce the speed or increase speed for a factor of 1 to 1 or 2 to one as to not loose as less spinning momentum or to add spin spin increase the delay of changing gears maybe to draw battery amps to change
I would have removed the backing plate from the brake pads and just bolted the friction material to keep the weight down.
Great stuff
Next week we turn the windscreen into a giant headlight.
I installed a copper button clutch in a pulling truck 40 years ago, it was in or out, not much else.
honestly
this is kinda similar to something i plan to use for my final work at the end of highschool
i'll be making a DIY engine dyno for a 50cc bike engine (and tuning the engine)
and i'll be using the whole brake assembly from a minibike for power transfer between the crankshaft and the load-cell
Are you sharing it in your youtube channel bro?
Im sure you have already looked at it, but there are some really interesting Dyno builds out there for some what smaller engines. I am looking at water brakes.
For your design on such a small engine I think I would just go with a car disc brake.
Much simpler to get parts and not build as much. Just pull parts from a junkyard and figure out how to mount it to your engine and load cell. Perhaps use the cheap hydraulic handbrake kits to do the hydraulics for the brake.
@@Kothamhomework i mean, i'll be making some video documentation for sure, just not the whole process
probably the finished thing
and yeah, i might upload them, but i'll see (should/needs to be done before this November lol)
@@Zachry86 as i said, i'm using the brake from a minibike lol
that's kinda as easy as it gets, since i have two of them and they're all mechanical, no hydraulics to worry about
@@pr05teja59 ahh, its too far to waiting
interesting idea , bit hard to balance without special tools and i wonder if the lining is too hard to actually grab without slipping
I guess the longer time between shifts makes it more for lazy sunday driving... :P
No I can't believe you guys did this I know I'm not the only guy who thought of this but I'm glad you mad crazy awesome lads went ahead and did this
Did you see the one where they took a brake drum and brake shoes to make a centrifugal clutch?
It's a few years old, but one of my favorite.
@@volvo09 I remember that one.👍
Another successful experiment!👏😂👍now how about using a clutch as wheel hub and break!
Science bro, centrifugal force will act on that clutch disk especially an unbalanced disk with that amount of weight at all 3 sides. Like the interesting idea of trying it. I reckon it would slip as well on dry road. If you lift engine revs you would be able to get it into gear if you knew what your doing and time it correctly 👍
I ment on down shift for changing gears 😉
Put gears on the steering to make it steer to opposite direction of that the steering is turned to
That would be fun to see
It's a 3 puck clutch .I used em a couple of times back in the drag racing days .
Nice experiment
I believe if the weight was brought down, it would be a decent clutch, more of a slipper clutch, that would slip then grab, possibly good for drag racing , preventing the tires from excessive spinning on take off,
Worlds first clutch disc with serviceable friction material! Instead of wasting money on all the metal parts besides the friction material you can replace only whats needed. Neat.
I honestly don't know why a ring pad for your clutch isn't a thing
You can buy rebuildable clutches, but they are normally only for drag racing rather then road use.
@@DeafeningSounds yes this is true but you have to buy a whole new clutch disc, not just the friction material. Thats my point
@@AwakenedR6 Because you should replace the disc, pressure plate, pilot bearing, and surface the flywheel when you do the job because it’s all got wear on it and you shouldn’t want to do it again any time soon
That is why big rigs have a clutch brake. To slow the input shaft upon shifts.
Can't access the in description UA-cam channel 😮.
It's telling me it's not available
I’ve thought of an idea like this before
😂 Absolutely Cracks me up seeing the ever fit camera persons furiously running after the car that they just filmed, viewed from the internal camera looking through the rear window.
With that in mind, watch the test drive again.
All garage54 vids have the same.
Well done
I would have expected a significant vibration issue due to the brake pads not being balanced.
Cool that it worked though.
But in a way, not too surprising because the brake pads ARE a friction material, so it works for the torque transfer.
You just built a button clutch,cool
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I would like to see two gear boxes attached together like to 4speeds or to 5 speeds
That is called a gear vendor
Great suggestion, ill comment and like just to get more attention to it lol. I just wouldn't 😂want to see him shift through those gears tho, dude is trash. Lol. Did you see his "double clutch"?haha
Pretty sure they did that already a few years back...
Would multiply torque and give you essentially a truck transmission with 8-10 forward gears and 4 to 5 reverse gears. First on both would move mountains 1st and 4th would be "1st" 5th would be "slightly more than 1st but not quite second" and 1st and reverse will be a high torque reverse (reverse on both would be forward again)
I would like to see the guts after a few hours of operation
Yes it will work
I guess if you were stranded with a shredded clutch disc and had some spare brake pads, it could save you. Haha!
Maybe the one to upshift is it because of the high speed the fact that he’s grabbing more weight when the clutch comes in contact with the flywheel house, the spinach, a little harder in order to keep up inertia
may need to double clutch to get that shift speed up
So if the fly wheel is too heavy, you could have a delay in the upshift it’s probably not because it’s spinning so fast just the weight of it. Of course you’re gonna have a bit of Pádraig against the flywheel because of the way, but it also has a catch-up, the spin, the weight of that extra waited clutch.
I want to own one of those ladas haha
A leaky head gasket requires dimpleing around any water passages and cylinders aswell
How do you get higher up? You’ll have a slight lesser delay because the engineer be spinning, is fast in the lower gear ratios when you climb up gears
How about a brake pad or clutch disck made out of brass??
That camera man is going to loose a lot of weight he is running with the car 😂😂😂
You should patent it like serviceble clutch disk
Clutch material for brake pads next?
how about a 6 puck clutch made with worn in ceramic performance pads?
Daily this clutch for a month! 😂
I haven't viewed the video yet but I say guaranteed it will work
Making a prediction before watching. This one should work fine.
kinda surprised they havent seen or heard of puck clutches being the gearheads they are
Sounds goood 😂😂👍🙏😎
The brake material and the clutch material are designed to work in two different ways. so some problems were expected right? The clutch was probably not balanced either?
I image brakes will be a bit more slippy considering they are designed to do just that under higher pressure than a clutch without wearing much.
I predict 107% success!
Maybe try double clutching on the one-two up shift?
Definitely would make it work I'd say, especially on the downshift
So, we need a clutch brake and float shifting is the way to go, like a roadranger. Next, hi and lo range transmission...
this would probably work if you removed a pound of the clutch . ie drilling out some holes in the clutch plate made out of break dics . doing so will get it a bit closer to the weight of the original clutch
Brake material and clutch material are basically the same. Both materials apply pressure to a steel disk to make friction to move forward or to stop
If you use carbon fiber pads on that it results in a clutch disk that is nearly impossible to burn. With carbon pads you could probably burn the plate and the flywheel out before the pads totally fail.
Nop, it will not work, must be high temp ro work, maybe carbon with mix material will work fine...
I have a video idea: Try getting as much steering angle as possible on a fwd car by shortening the knuckles first. Then modify the cv axles to turn more if they can't take the angle.
Theyve done it, see the russian channel.
The Drift taxi link is not working.
I suppose in the event of emergency 5 break pads is viable...
But I think most of us won't do this haha
Grind up some old pants and try those lol.
Buenas q tal el retraso q dices del cambio es por q cuando el motor gira a altas revoluciones el disco tambien y cuando intentas hacer una marcha superior la caja de cambios intenta frenar las revoluciones del disco de cloche al ser liberado el cual esta girando a la ultima vez q el motor genero en el altas revoluciones , recomendacion quitar un poco más de peso en el disco de cloche y balanciarlo , pero me gusta esta idea del cloche rigido , lo malo es al salir por q cuando intentas salir el plato de embrague empieza a saltar por las amortiguacion q genera al apoyar por eso se recomienda acelerar un poco mas , pero creo q se acabaron los cloches rotos , mis felicitaciones me facinas sus inventos y investigaciónes por q asi aprenden las personas sin romper nada mis respeto por su riesgo , viva la libertad en la mecanica ✊
bro those shoes are gas, where do i get the "B"?
You should try this in reverse. Clutch based brake pads.
gonna make a motorcycle multi disk clutch next?
Centenforce clutch has stronger springs too
Can you try electromagnetic clutch
Maybe good but need to shave the metal half way to make pads lighter
Can’t find the other channel help!!!
i havealways wondered about somehowusing clutch material to make brake pads. clutch material seams to last forever compaired to brake pads.
Clutches "last forever" because they don't transmit much torque under slip conditions for very long. The transmissions gears always limit you to the max the engine can produce, and it's rare (and short) that you can slip a clutch for long at that power level.
Brake pads deal with it the entiiiiire time you are stopping.
Different conditions
@@rian0xFFF yeah, I explained it weirdly, but the power (heat) being dissipated into a clutch is far less energy than a brake pad.
Brakes have rotors to absorb that long term heat, clutches do not slip under high load for any length of time and don't generate much heat (they shouldn't unless abused).
I was hoping they would take it apart to show us what it did to the flywheel. Although I guess it could be rather anticlimactic.
try magnet break pads
two/one sided magnet discs
What about an angle grinder disk clutch, lol
Nicee
I wanted to see if they're engaged well to be able to do a burnout
Try a Sterling engine in one
Next: clutch brake pads
Dude how strange is this idea, it's absolutely beautiful and as a full blown redneck. I love this
I saw that cameramen feel struggling to catch you. I think the clutch its safe, maybe :v
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the car started sound sporty from 10:00
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Roast the clutch
Motor bike brake pads you must use