Thank you for confirming the motors actually come out. I gave it a good pry, but it would not budge. In case anyone runs in the same problem I did, mine had a set screw into the drive end that prevented just pulling the motor out. Once I unrolled the shade I discovered this. After removing the set screw, the motor practically fell out.
Good job. I actually appreciate videos that include the human side of the experience, mistakes and all. After all, most of us are *not* licensed technicians, but do want to do what we can to take care of our coaches on our own. Unrelated, I don't get why some people will leave a thumbs-down for a good video like this. I'm countering at lease one of them by leaving a thumbs up. Onward.
Oh, I would definitely wire it backwards first. Except I would have already buttoned everything down assuming I did it right and had to take it all apart again. LOL! Good job man! Fun to fix our own RVs! ~chad
Changing Lanes thanks. I went out of my comfort zone to tackle this and came out pretty good. I had a feeling I was hooking it up backwards....should have listened to the inner voice! If only you could have seen the unedited version...lol
Tnx Phil....exactly what I was looking for as our 2016 Phaeton 40AH has a bad motor on the night shade. Ordered from Tiffin and will update you as to my success (or lack thereof) once we return from a two week NorCal trip.
Great job Phil, reverse polarity (wire connection) is no biggie, saved yourself some labor costs. You have some great electrical tools ( lug crimpers, wire stripers) pick up yourself a V.O.M. "volt ohm meter" for a reasonable price at HD or Lowe's, an invaluable tool for finding or diagnosis of your RV's 110v or 12v electrical system even if your not an electrician. Thanks for sharing your video Kind regards, Eric dee
Can you recommend a vender or company that sells the motors that operate a white windshield day shade. RV Elite couldn’t help, they said it’s an aftermarket item and I guess they only get original items from Fleetwood. We have a Fleetwood Bounder. We enjoy your channel and have learned a lot. Thank you!
I did chuckle because I don't turn off any 12v wiring I do. This may not be good, even though you won't get much a shock, because you can mess things up (blow fuses) if the wires cross. My dad was an electrician and I helped him so I am comfortable doing wiring, however I hire out plumbing.
I had the same problem with my Entegra Cornerstone and it was a pain in the _ _ _. And yes I hit my head. I now have a Renegade ikon and it has a curtain you manually pull, no motor to go bad. Keep the rubber on the road.
Whew that was close i thought you had a problem... oh hell i hook things up backwards all the time. I stink at instructions...glad i am not the only one....for me a 2 hour job takes two days
I had a 50/50 shot at connecting it backwards....always my luck. It was a quick fix after I tested it. We did forget to show that it actually worked......rookies! LOL . Thanks for watching.
I'm going to tackle this myself soon too. What year was your rig when you made this? I am doing it on a 2014. Also, did you have to make a little cut in your shade to unscrew the motor from the housing? Some videos reference that just not sure what years they were working on. Great vid! Found it informative and amusing
Great video, funny too! Thanks for the instruction. I can do that!! I'm calling Tiffin tomorrow for my replacement motor. Reverse polarity works in our favor sometimes.
We just did ours. It's am MCD shade and the motor was $155 + $45 shipping to Canada! Getting the motor out and back in was a real effort - had to use lube to get the new motor in! Had to saw off nubs and there were other issues. This was an original manufacturer part, not an after-market. (Shakes fist in the air) "Damn you, MCD!"
I love you guys, Way to go Phil. we have a Tiffin 37PA, hoping to meet you someday on the road. By the way, still looking for my CB cable in that hold somewhere Ha, Also purchase a Thule bike holder for the electric bikes, Love it, Tom
It’s always something, we went to the Pomona RV show, we went in the Red AA. IT SEEMS TO ALWAYS BE SOMETHING... i hope this all work ... our handle broke on us in the phoenix cruiser....now we are back at our gold claim camp and the door handle on our ARCTIC FOX is broken....yup its always something..... fingers are crossed .
I am getting ready to do this, good video, most of My comments will be for the rookie out there. like Mark the wires before you cut them. I have a 2007 Itaska, so finding the parts is the biggest problem. I contacted Winnebago, they where 6 month out. Auto Motion out of Canada makes most of these power shades. many calls to them, trying to keep this short, found a place that had the shade in stock will have it in 4 days. In 2007 the motor and shade comes as one unit, so you have to buy the whole thing. for people with older motorhomes or Rvs there are places out there that have this stuff, so keep looking. also this same place can get me a hydraulic hose in 7 days that everyone else is saying is discontinued. We will see. I know I will have it when I have it in my hand!!! and it fits.
Another thumbs-up from me too! This was a great video. My shades are starting to start-off really slow, whether coming up or down, then they roll at a good pace. So I'm starting to worry about them. This video taught me that as a solo female travelver, I think I'm gonna need the professionals on this one. The shades are high-up behind a big cabinet & will be very difficult for me to wrestle with. I wouldn't have known that without your video though, so thank you.
We have a 2016 Tiffin RED 37PA. Our night shade is acting up. I ordered the replacement motor which looks identical, including the notch thing you removed at 5:30 into the video, to the one you received. The original shade motor is blue like yours as well. I inserted the new motor and removed the notch thing as well but when I tried to attach the motor and shade to the long black metal bracket, it was about 1/4" of an inch too short. Is there something that needs to removed from the end of the old motor and attached to the new motor in order to make up the difference?
I searched the comments Phil but could not find anyone asking for the part number for the shade motor. I bought the wrong one and need to send that one back.
Just add context why you still had 12 volt power to your sunshade when you disconnected your 12-volt power most likely just inside the door that's called the salesman switch it only disconnects the house power not the chassis power. To entirely disconnect you would have to pull the negative terminal off battery from your engine compartment. Pretty much everything up at the dash is powered by the chassis battery everything behind it is powered by the house batteries if it runs off 12 volt such as lighting I really appreciate this video I haven't had to do a motor swap on Shades in a long time and I couldn't quite remember if it was more complicated then I was making it seem in my head which it isn't.
Wish you had shown how you got that shade assembly back up in place. My new shade motors arrive Tuesday from Tiffin and that is the one thing we are concerned with since it’s in an awkward location to reach, especially if you’re short. Video was very helpful.
Phil; Good job. I had to laugh when you hit your head, it reminded me of my father he always hit his head on things. Love your videos, we cannot wait to hit the road full time in 2 years.
Thank you for confirming the motors actually come out. I gave it a good pry, but it would not budge. In case anyone runs in the same problem I did, mine had a set screw into the drive end that prevented just pulling the motor out. Once I unrolled the shade I discovered this. After removing the set screw, the motor practically fell out.
Phil,
Outstanding video!
Couldn't have done it without your tips...keep it up.
MY Tip..I aways replace Philip screws with a Socket head cap screws.
Good job. I actually appreciate videos that include the human side of the experience, mistakes and all. After all, most of us are *not* licensed technicians, but do want to do what we can to take care of our coaches on our own. Unrelated, I don't get why some people will leave a thumbs-down for a good video like this. I'm countering at lease one of them by leaving a thumbs up. Onward.
😂 when he hits his head on the fan...poor Phil!
Other than the bassackwards initial wiring, and the head bopping play that needed to be reviewed, I'd say this was a successful repair! 👍😊😊
I would have to agree! lol
Oh, I would definitely wire it backwards first. Except I would have already buttoned everything down assuming I did it right and had to take it all apart again. LOL! Good job man! Fun to fix our own RVs! ~chad
Changing Lanes thanks. I went out of my comfort zone to tackle this and came out pretty good. I had a feeling I was hooking it up backwards....should have listened to the inner voice! If only you could have seen the unedited version...lol
Thanks I'm getting ready to do the same thing. I have no idea how these thing work, but won't be able to say that this time tomorrow.
Thank again.
Tnx Phil....exactly what I was looking for as our 2016 Phaeton 40AH has a bad motor on the night shade. Ordered from Tiffin and will update you as to my success (or lack thereof) once we return from a two week NorCal trip.
Awesome! Keep us posted.
Thanks Phil. I will be tackling this job soon. You made it look “easy.” lol I think I should be able to handle this one with your help. 👍
Great job Phil, reverse polarity (wire connection) is no biggie, saved yourself some labor costs. You have some great electrical tools ( lug crimpers, wire stripers) pick up yourself a V.O.M. "volt ohm meter" for a reasonable price at HD or Lowe's, an invaluable tool for finding or diagnosis of your RV's 110v or 12v electrical system even if your not an electrician.
Thanks for sharing your video
Kind regards, Eric dee
Great DIY project, thanks for the walk through. Can’t believe you did this without any military verbiage....lol
Can you recommend a vender or company that sells the motors that operate a white windshield day shade. RV Elite couldn’t help, they said it’s an aftermarket item and I guess they only get original items from Fleetwood. We have a Fleetwood Bounder.
We enjoy your channel and have learned a lot. Thank you!
Great job. Same thing happening to my Tiffin and this helps out tremendously.....
Glad it helped!
I did chuckle because I don't turn off any 12v wiring I do. This may not be good, even though you won't get much a shock, because you can mess things up (blow fuses) if the wires cross. My dad was an electrician and I helped him so I am comfortable doing wiring, however I hire out plumbing.
Hopefully we will grow more knowledgable as we learn more about Ruby! Thanks for watching Roy.
I had the same problem with my Entegra Cornerstone and it was a pain in the _ _ _. And yes I hit my head. I now have a Renegade ikon and it has a curtain you manually pull, no motor to go bad.
Keep the rubber on the road.
Love anything technical. Bring it on!
Getting ready to do a similar install on our 'night shade' 2011 Tiffin motor replacement. Thanks for the video!!!!!.
Coach Camping Chronicles - Bart
Whew that was close i thought you had a problem... oh hell i hook things up backwards all the time. I stink at instructions...glad i am not the only one....for me a 2 hour job takes two days
I had a 50/50 shot at connecting it backwards....always my luck. It was a quick fix after I tested it. We did forget to show that it actually worked......rookies! LOL . Thanks for watching.
I'm going to tackle this myself soon too. What year was your rig when you made this? I am doing it on a 2014. Also, did you have to make a little cut in your shade to unscrew the motor from the housing? Some videos reference that just not sure what years they were working on. Great vid! Found it informative and amusing
Great video, funny too! Thanks for the instruction. I can do that!! I'm calling Tiffin tomorrow for my replacement motor. Reverse polarity works in our favor sometimes.
It really was that easy to do.
When mine goes out I will know what to do. Thanks for another very useful video!
We just did ours. It's am MCD shade and the motor was $155 + $45 shipping to Canada! Getting the motor out and back in was a real effort - had to use lube to get the new motor in! Had to saw off nubs and there were other issues. This was an original manufacturer part, not an after-market. (Shakes fist in the air) "Damn you, MCD!"
Wow! Our motor was only $85. Must be a different type of shade. I agree on the REAL effort.....we were sweating like we were running a marathon!!
I love you guys, Way to go Phil.
we have a Tiffin 37PA, hoping to meet you someday on the road.
By the way, still looking for my CB cable in that hold somewhere Ha,
Also purchase a Thule bike holder for the electric bikes, Love it,
Tom
Outstanding. Hope to see ya out here soon!
It’s always something, we went to the Pomona RV show, we went in the Red AA. IT SEEMS TO ALWAYS BE SOMETHING... i hope this all work ... our handle broke on us in the phoenix cruiser....now we are back at our gold claim camp and the door handle on our ARCTIC FOX is broken....yup its always something..... fingers are crossed .
Hopefully they are easy fixes. Fingers are crossed for you.
You're awesome! Drivng me nuts on an Newmar Londonaire but this is a big help!
Thanks for the video. Now I know what to do in my Tiffin when the shade motor needs replacing. Bumped my head a few times on that cabinet also :(
You go Phil. Good Job!
I know right! He really rocked it! We are learning!
I am getting ready to do this, good video, most of My comments will be for the rookie out there. like Mark the wires before you cut them. I have a 2007 Itaska, so finding the parts is the biggest problem. I contacted Winnebago, they where 6 month out. Auto Motion out of Canada makes most of these power shades. many calls to them, trying to keep this short, found a place that had the shade in stock will have it in 4 days. In 2007 the motor and shade comes as one unit, so you have to buy the whole thing. for people with older motorhomes or Rvs there are places out there that have this stuff, so keep looking. also this same place can get me a hydraulic hose in 7 days that everyone else is saying is discontinued. We will see. I know I will have it when I have it in my hand!!! and it fits.
Another thumbs-up from me too! This was a great video. My shades are starting to start-off really slow, whether coming up or down, then they roll at a good pace. So I'm starting to worry about them. This video taught me that as a solo female travelver, I think I'm gonna need the professionals on this one. The shades are high-up behind a big cabinet & will be very difficult for me to wrestle with. I wouldn't have known that without your video though, so thank you.
you guys are GREAT I enjoy are your videos. see you on the road
Thanks! Safe travels
We have a 2016 Tiffin RED 37PA. Our night shade is acting up. I ordered the replacement motor which looks identical, including the notch thing you removed at 5:30 into the video, to the one you received. The original shade motor is blue like yours as well. I inserted the new motor and removed the notch thing as well but when I tried to attach the motor and shade to the long black metal bracket, it was about 1/4" of an inch too short. Is there something that needs to removed from the end of the old motor and attached to the new motor in order to make up the difference?
I searched the comments Phil but could not find anyone asking for the part number for the shade motor. I bought the wrong one and need to send that one back.
Where did you buy the new motors?
Love your videos BTW!
We ordered them from Tiffin.
You did great!!!
it was a banging experience
Did you need 2 motors? One for each shade. Both of mine are not working so I assume I need to replace both
Yes, each shade has it's own motor.
Love you guys. Great video
Awww! Thanks!
Just add context why you still had 12 volt power to your sunshade when you disconnected your 12-volt power most likely just inside the door that's called the salesman switch it only disconnects the house power not the chassis power.
To entirely disconnect you would have to pull the negative terminal off battery from your engine compartment. Pretty much everything up at the dash is powered by the chassis battery everything behind it is powered by the house batteries if it runs off 12 volt such as lighting
I really appreciate this video I haven't had to do a motor swap on Shades in a long time and I couldn't quite remember if it was more complicated then I was making it seem in my head which it isn't.
Thanks for the 12v power info. We appreciate you taking time to share it with everyone.
Thank you for sharing this!!
Thanks for watching. Safe travels
Do you have a link to buy the new motor?
We called tiffin and had it mailed to us.
Come on Navy !!! check and check again !!! lol
Right!! lol
Good job. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Wish you had shown how you got that shade assembly back up in place. My new shade motors arrive Tuesday from Tiffin and that is the one thing we are concerned with since it’s in an awkward location to reach, especially if you’re short. Video was very helpful.
Killin me......Stacy has your #
Phil; Good job. I had to laugh when you hit your head, it reminded me of my father he always hit his head on things. Love your videos, we cannot wait to hit the road full time in 2 years.
He is still hitting his head! lol
I always put piece of tape on each end of one wire then make cut....always join the wire with tape. Bingo😂
Well that is just too simple and smart! lol Thanks for the tip.
Man Phil, you need a hard hat!
He really does. He actually hits that cabinet over and over.
It always seem to be tiffin RVs with bad motors
Really great video, You should get a hard hat,,,,,just incase ;-)
LOL
you guys can do much better than this you didn’t show us anything on how to take it out and put it back, ……hello
Did you notice when this was made? Making videos is definitely a learning process and this was very early in our process. Hello 👋 to you as well