British South American Airways' Lost Planes
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The Bermuda triangle, roughly located between Miami, Bermuda and Puerto Rico, where ships and planes have mysteriously disappeared for years, is one of the most captivating mysteries of the modern era. And it was two mysterious losses of planes operated by British South American Airways in 1948 and 1949 that helped to solidify the public perception of the mysterious triangle. The loss of the Star Tiger and the Star Ariel deserve to be remembered.
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As a young sailor, I was onboard the USS Biddle as we were on an exercise in the Caribbean. While transiting through the Bermuda Triangle we were cruising on glass smooth seas and were entering a dense fog. The strange thing about this fog was that while the front half of the ship remained in the pea soup, looking aft you could see for miles. This condition lasted for over an hour.
That would be weird. Mother Nature is full of surprises.
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May years ago I dated a charter pilot who flew in the triangle from Florida to the Bahamas a lot. He said the weather was volatile and sometimes strange. He gave me a whole shelf of books o the triangle and other weird phenomenon. It's how I got interested in weather.
The temperature difference due to the gulf stream can, I am told, lead to strange atmospheric conditions.
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Or, it's aliens. 😏
I'm happy British Airways has decided to ground its 747 fleet
With four engines, there will be plenty of spares in case of problems. I was on one when the pilot announced, "We've lost one engine, so there will be a half hour delay to landing." Then he announced a further delay as he'd lost another engine. I was thinking I hope we don't lose the other two or we'll be up here all night.
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How far can we get on one engine? All the way to the scene of the crash.
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I went on several cruises in the Bermuda Triangle - the only thing I saw disappear was my money
Gone but not forgotten 😉 hope you got some good memories out of it at least !
My wife is Colombian so I had to learn Spanish to speak with my mother in law. Hearing you speak Spanish makes me feel good that I'm not alone. Keep up the great work!
You are not alone. My wife and her mother came from East Germany. I got to where I could understand that which they were talking about, but cold not hold a conversation. So I'd tell them, "Estás en Texas ahora. Habla español. Ja, ja, ja."
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My 'favorite' BOAC disappearance is the "Star Dust". It left Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1947, enroute to Santiago, Chile...but then it utterly disappeared.
Then, in 1998, it was discovered that pieces of the plane were weathering out of the foot of a glacier. Apparently, a head wind put the pilots way off on their calculations...and instead of already being on the other side of the Andes, they flew straight into Mount Tupungato. The wreckage fell onto the glacier and snow covered everything up until it was locked in the ice. Even though the plane was found, the meaning of the last transmission from the radio operator (The letters "S. T. E. N. D. E. C.") is still a mystery.
I have a friend who was an RAF navigator, and has made an extensive and exhaustive study of the Star Dust disappearance. After much study of local weather patterns, the then current weather conditions, flight altitude, etc., he has come to the conclusion that a sudden and severe downdraught was probably the cause of Star Dust crashing into Mount Tupungato. Of course we'll never know for sure, nor the meaning of STENDEC (if that's what was actually transmitted and not some garbled interpretation by the radio operator at Santiago Airport).
@@coopdivi The downdraft hypothesis might be true...however, regardless of anything like that...if they hadn't had head winds or otherwise miscalculated where they were...they would have been on the other side of the Andes, and wouldn't have had a mountain to be down drafted into.
The headwind was most probably a jet-stream - a phenomena unknown at that time.
@@anthonyjackson280 A jet stream going in the opposite direction of travel is a head wind. In this case, wind is wind no matter what you name it.
Jet streams were first hypothesized in the late 1800's. So, not well known...but not unknown.
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It was known over Japan in 1944 and 1945.
But over South American, no maps of jet streams.
I am from Bermuda, as well as being something of an aviation history enthusiast, and there were questions of the Avro Tudors' airworthiness. After BSAA was absorbed by BOAC, the latter carrier didn't use the Tudor. As a kid I flew with BOAC from Bermuda in a Boeing 314 flying boat in 1944 and a BOAC Constellation in 1951, and as I am writing this in 2024 I must have had safe flights, as well as many subsequent BOAC & BA flights from Bermuda to UK as well as the Caribbean. Not wanting to to be pedantic THG, but Bermuda's airfield was pronounced Kindley Field, (with a short "i"), named after an American WW1 flier. It was built by American engineers during WW2 as part of the UK/US Lend-Lease agreement first named "Fort Bell", then "Kindley Field", and latterly "Naval Air Station" until the US pulled out after the Cold War was over. It is history which deserves to be remembered. 😉
Small point of detail: BOAC was always pronounced letter by letter, not as one word.
It was merged with BEA in 1974 & became British Airways. Kudos for using the British pronunciation of Derby!
In the Beatles song, "Back in the USSR" they pronounce it letter by letter "Flew in from Miami Beach B.O.A.C..."
Yup I only remember it as B-O-A-C
The thing that bothers me is there are no recent disappearances in the triangle. That makes we wonder. With the technology we have today, could the disappearances be navigational?
Sailed through the Bermuda Triangle several times while in the Navy on USS Semmes DDG 18 1983-84 and USS Whidbey Island LSD 41 1993-96. Made port visits to Guantanamo Bay, Key West, St Croix, and Roosevelt Roads Puerto Rico. Made a brief stop in the Azores for fuel flying from Bahrain to Philadelphia in 1992. As to what may have happened to Star Tiger and Star Aerial remains a mystery. Their disappearance could be attributed to many factors such as mechanical failure, loss of cabin pressure, electrical failure as to why no distress calls were made, or structural failure due to design flaws. Unless wreckage is found, those answers will remain elusive. RIP to all crews and passengers on those aircraft.
Thank you for your service. Agreed, despite the numerous possibilities, the lack of answers is still distressing.
For all the typing you did, why abbreviate, "Rest in Peace"???
You have no evidence of those people dieing on that flight.
An airplane is the perfect vessel to make people disappear, so why not look at it as intentional, and study the passenger lists a little more carefully?
@@truthsRsung It doesn't seem unreasonable that the people on that flight 75 years ago are dead.
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@@j_taylor, My mother-in-law is 94 and as my wife can confirm has been a royal pain in the butt her entire life. Im convinced that even being on one of those missing flights couldn't kill her!
My theory:
Given that they were pressurized, they suffered depressurization and flew hundreds or thousands of miles off course. Never to be seen because no one was looking anywhere close to where they went down.
I'm glad that you added your disclaimer at the end about the disappearances not indicating anything supernatural. Many people have gotten it firmly in their heads that there is is some hocus-pocus involved in that area when it really is not a nexus of concentrated evil. Just an area that is prone to some suddenly nasty weather and where the ocean is deep enough to hide a lot of evidence.
Just basically a flying junk pile. At least that was the opinion of the airlines chief pilot Gordon stone.
Growing up in the ‘80s, the Bermuda Triangle was right up there with killer bees and Bat Boy! It was a silly myth.
And statistical studies, by people without tin-foil hats, have shown that the area is no more prone to incidents than any other area of similar size. It's just press focus. Also, the whole idea of "The Bermuda Triangle" was created by a pulp magazine.
@@garyclark3843what you just said actually isnt true im sure your studies are the ones who dont use military aircraft. There also is perfectly scientific meteorological explanations for it. There are other "triangles" around the world that display similar risk to aircraft. There also might be aliens
@@51WCDodge B-b-but Don Bennett said it was _the_ finest piece of kit in the air! And who you gonna believe, Store or Bennett? (who once said, with a straight face, "BSAA's safety record is better than our loss rate in the Pathfinders.") 😉
pick any heavy traffic area and you will find just as much, or more disappearance's.
Thanks for covering these tragic incidents! Just a note: I don't remember anyone calling BOAC 'Bowack'. It was always spoken as be-oh-ay-see. The same rule applied with BEA. For a long time the UK didn't really take to acronyms.
Indeed so, but us Yanks loved 'em and we _did_ say "Bowack."
I agree that it was always called by the four individual letters. However early in my married life (1973-88!) whilst visiting my in-laws at West Drayton where lived many workers employed at London Heathrow I did hear a neighbour refer to having worked at ‘Bowack’ and this has stayed with me because it is the only time in my 76 years that I have come across such a pronunciation.
The Avro Tudor was the first British Commercial Pressurised aircraft. Fatigue due to pressurisation was not well understood at the time, "The Tudor was built like a battleship. It was noisy, I had no confidence in its engines and its systems were hopeless. The Americans were fifty years ahead of us in systems engineering. All the hydraulics, the air conditioning equipment and the recircling fans were crammed together underneath the floor without any thought. There were fuel-burning heaters that would never work; we had the floorboards up in flight again and again. Gordon Store BSAA Chief Pilot.
The B29 confirms your view but comet jet a/c sadly premature in developement gave brits a first albeit short lived glory in air travel.
9:42 So whatever happened, it happened so quickly they didn't have a chance to radio a distress message.
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The stories of missing planes and ships have always perked my interest and imagination! Thank you THG !
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
Chances are there was a navigation error, and they went down miles away from where they were supposed to be.
A lot of the navigators on these aircraft were ex-bomber navigators, and there were plenty of navigation errors during the war which saw aircraft and crews being lost.
That is what is thought to have happened to that American training flight as one of the trainee pilots told their (experienced) leader/trainer that they were off course and was told he was wrong. Sadly, I fear he was right.
It is true- a surprising number of craft went missing during the war. Still, a navigational error is an unsatisfying answer. The Star Tiger crew was experienced and had flown the route many times, and they had received a clear radio beacon direction from Bermuda. And a navigational error wouldn't explain why no radio distress call. Star Ariel was not flying nearly as long a route, and the search area was huge. Two such disappearances, with no SOS and no debris, is extraordinary.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel The Chief Pilot of BSAA Gordon Store , thought the aircraft was a heap of junk, and said so ! also being the first pressurised British Commercial aircraft, at a time when fatigue was little understood, losses are not unexpected.
@@51WCDodge certainly the Tudor had its detractors, although AVRO stood behind it. But, again, two crashes in 1948 and 1949 would have been tragic but unsurprising. Two that disappeared without a trace is certainly a mystery.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Bear in mind the mindset of the Government , and A V Roe. , a particular British trait (And as I am one I know) defend the undefendable, R101, and Comet. are but two. Boeing currently come to mind.
Very interesting episode. Thanks for sharing. Muy buen Español Señor History Guy. Saludos.
The flight of vanished Navy planes - recall reading in recent past a convincing argument that they somehow thought they were to the west of Florida in the Gulf of Mexico, and so should continue to fly east, heading overland to F. east coast. When in reality, they were already at the F. east coast, and flying east into the open Atlantic Ocean where they inevitably ran out of fuel and ditched.
We know they ditched, and we know they were lost. That was all on radio. Where is certainly a mystery,
Thank you for another fine report. Have you noticed we have not heard of any Bermuda Triangle incidents in the past few years? Oh, I really like your shirt. Regards.
Pirates! Because don't all good stories involve pirates?
Or space aliens!
@@kenmore01, If the aliens are here for the purpose of kidnapping people or stealing planetary resources, that does indeed make them pirates.
@@goodun2974 All the better! 😸
@@kenmore01 , I have to admit I really don't get all the love for pirates from THG; There's nothing particularly "romantic" about a bunch of cutthroats, who probably don't bathe for a month at a time, robbing other ships, and likely raising hell when they go ashore. Perhaps you all have been watching too many Errol Flynn movies or something! My mindset is more aligned with Bob Dylan's lyric where he observed that "some people will rob you with a fountain pen"......it's more humdrum and ordinary, but that's how most piracy occurs, although today it's more likely to involve a ballpoint pen or a stroke of a computer keyboard......
The "Bermuda Triangle" is an area where quite a few small aircraft and boats often operate. It is also an area where there is a LOT of convective activity, so that is where the legend happened. What happened to the Avro Tudor? Anyone's guess, but back then piston engines were not that reliable. Another possibility: They flew into a convective cell in the dark that they couldn't see. Or, take a look at the airplane accident that killed singer Ricky Nelson in 1985. The gasoline powered cabin heater kept tripping it's circuit breaker and the cabin was cold. The first officer then jammed the circuit breaker closed, and the device eventually caught fire and filled the cabin with smoke.
The Tudor in question was having trouble with it's cabin heater in both Lisbon and Santa Maria....
My father was a Navy Navigator during WWII era...flew thru Bermuda Triangle...all his dials just spun...as it was a clear night he could navigate them safely back to their Florida base..says something about having those skills! Didn't have to rely on computers.His belief was it was something magnetic that caused this..Some weren't as lucky, ended up flying into the swamps/mud of Florida, could not be rescued in time. Ty for sharing this with us 👌
My late father was stationed at Homestead AFB in the early 1960s because he was replacing an officer who had disappeared in the Triangle.
The Air Force really played it up as a mysterious event to cover up the fact that the entire flight crew was falling down drunk when they took off and immediately flew the planes into the ocean.
My late father was stationed there, too. I’m glad he wasn’t a heavy drinker!
I believe it. In the early 1960's, the US military was a giant clusterf*ck. I remember my cousin, an Air Force pilot, saying how relieved Cuban Missle Crisis was resolved, because no one knew where to go or what to do, like there was no plan. Everyone was running (or flying) around like chickens with their heads cut off!
The flight leader of Flight 19 was badly hung over when they took off. He got confused as to where they were and flew them around until they ran out of fuel.
I like the shirt sir. As always , Thank you for another wonderful presentation.
You're a great narrator
i personally took a cruise to bermuda from nyc. we passed through the triangle on a friday the 13 durring 25 ft seas had a bit of sea sickness but thats about it
I love that there are still mysteries in this great big world that is not so big
I noticed that the passenger windows of the Tudors appear to be shaped similar to windows of the de Haviland Comets. Those aircraft had accidents due to metal fatigue later blamed on their shape creating weaknesses. Isn’t that a likely cause given both were pressurized?
Not likely, since the Tudor flew at around 23,000 feet altitude, which has less stress on the skin of the plane than flying at the 33,000+ feet altitude the Comet I often flew. That's why the Lockheed Constellation and Douglas DC-6/DC-7 never suffered the type of failure the Comet I suffered.
@@Sacto1654 "The Tudor was built like a battleship. It was noisy, I had no confidence in its engines and its systems were hopeless. The Americans were fifty years ahead of us in systems engineering. All the hydraulics, the air conditioning equipment and the recircling [sic] fans were crammed together underneath the floor without any thought. There were fuel-burning heaters that would never work; we had the floorboards up in flight again and again. Gordon Stone, BSAA Chief Pilot.
More airplanes and ships disappear mysteriously over Lake Superior than the Bermuda Triangle ...
Ikr. Its statistically proven, that no more ships, planes etc disappear in the so-called Bermuda Triangle than any other stretch of ocean in the world. Which is logical, since its a myth, that started as a joke article in a humorous magazine. When u see those long lists of "disappearances", not only do the vast majority have fairly simple and likely explanations, most of them werent even anywhere near the defined Triangle area. Ive seen ppl ascribing the Bermuda Triangle to disappearances, sinkings/crashes as far north as the New Jersey coast, as far south as the South American coastline, inside the Mexican Gulf and as far east as the friggin Azores.
Some ppl just dont want facts, they just want to believe the "mystery", no matter how very much not mysterious it is.
And yet certain disappearances, in both places, remain mysteries that deserve to be remembered.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel - Heavy weather and heavy traffic ... in both places ... mariners and pilots remember ...
“The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead, When the skies of November turn gloomy.”
- Gordon Lightfoot, The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
@@apostately3384The Edmund Fitzgerald story still creeps me out more than anything in the Bermuda Triangle! RIP Gord…
My guess is loss of pressurization. A rapid event would have quickly incapacitated the crew and passengers without a chance to radio a distress call. The other is a slow depressurization event leading to hypoxia and everyone eventually losing consciousness. This has happened several times including Helios Airways flight 522 and PGA golfer Payne Stewart's private Learjet 35. In both events, the plane could have drifted off course before crashing leading to searchers looking the the wrong location. When and if the wreckage from the Star Tiger and Star Ariel are found, it may be far away from their expected location.
Doubt a prop plane was pressurized
What ever it was, it was catastrophic with no time to even put out a Mayday.
I wasn't aware there was an airline called British South American Airways. Always learn something new on this channel, and I remember when I was a child there were always mystery stories about the Bermuda Triangle, but I haven't heard about that for a while.
*As the Nassau chugged along with a delivery of Marines to someplace in the early 90s, the topic of sinking & being lost at sea came up & was being discussed- the question of survival and the probability of being located by searchers was broached.*
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Pressurisation cycles and the attendant possibilities for metal fatigue were a new and unknown thing back then. Very soon with the loss of the early comets and the deep water recovery of their wreckage, the subject began to be understood. Those first airliners were stop gap bomber mods. It is unsurprising that some were lost.
Pirates! All good stories involve pirates! Thanks again, Lance.
I'd think that the story of the "Star Tiger," is the bedrock of the general aviation maintenance program we have today.
The attitude, "Just fly the plane," is good for the pilot, when being distracted with multitasking complexities, that do anything but keep the plane flying.
But "just hop in and go," should end at the customer counter inside the airport.
This is no more important, than those aircraft that are responsible for flying passengers.
Outside of pilot error, mechanical failure, or weather, no act is more important than the maintenance of the machine, while on the ground.
The old adage in WWII was, "The aircraft belonged to the chief mechanic, who allowed the pilot to take the aircraft out to go his job. And he better return it in good working order!"
Maintenance programs exist today, in some cases, where the work is contracted out to third party companies.
It is very detailed, and the times of operation between maintenance, parts and engine service and/ or replacement, are followed on a strict schedule.
We see this now, in very rare incidents of airline crashes, due to mechanical failure. Progression in computer spreadsheets and program layouts, improvements in engines, electronic and construction techniques, have also contributed to the overall quality of flight.
Now, if they could only get the food to taste better!...
Things have certainly changed since 1947, but Star Tiger was maintained, and there are extensive maintenance records noted in the accident report. They didn't just hop in and go.
As the old saying goes, "In aviation, regulations and procedures are written in blood".
I suspect that the food on airplanes always tasted kind of mediocre, but back in the days when you were allowed to smoke and drink heavily on a plane even the non-imbibers couldn't hardly taste their food through all the secondhand smoke.
Flew many hours in the triangle out of Jax and Bermuda. Never saw anything odd. Never any electronics “anomalies”. Just another chunk of ocean to hunt in.
The daily thunderstorms are terrible there, even if a hurricane isn’t hitting. That’s probably how most planes went down.
I remember in the 70s and 80s hearing alot about the triangle, probably movies and speculation. Always a mystery, I was so curious about the unknown 😮
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Catastrophic loss of cabin pressure just like the early de Havilland Comet.
When you look at the weather patterns and the shear volume of traffic in the so called Bermuda Triangle, it is not surprising there are so many losses.
In the seventies there was a popular documentary I think was called The Devil’s Triangle that shown at midnight shows. They brought up different conspiracies. Saw it one time at the Bee Ridge drive in (Sarasota) . At those showings there was always burning herbs wafting in the air lol
In the area of the Bermuda triangle scientists have found that the seafloor has a lot of methane and once in a while a methane release happens. It can cause lack of buoyancy for ships and in the air large clouds of methane can cause both jet and regular engines to just about stall out.
I think Myth Busters did an episode testing that theory and concluded that it was at least possible.
@@airfrere Is it ever*known* to have happened?
@@Pygar2 If it were *known* to have happened, it wouldn't be a mystery any longer. I'm not convinced that this was the cause of so many disappearances; in fact, it seems a little implausible to me. I just found it interesting that they weren't willing to say that the myth was busted.
Great episode!
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You mentioned flight 19. As a navy man I have always wondered how 5 modern aircraft "for that day" and 14 air crew disappeared without a trace to this very day? Shalom
The wreckage of those planes was found off Florida. Due to a navigational error on the part of the lead aircraft they were almost 90 degrees off course. and nowhere near the 'Bermuda Triangle'.
@@anthonyjackson280no wreckage ever found. Citation please
"Myth" is a good descriptor to describe to presumptuve "Bermuda Triangle". As Yeats once wrote, " Myths are those things that never were but always are".
Love the shirt Great episode. Thx
Nice shirt! I have an uncommon love for atlases.
I've been a follower of your videos for a long time. This is the first time I noticed that you used a random blogger as a source for information though... Please refrain from doing this again. I love your videos because they are all so well researched and presented. Quoting a random internet user seems to go against this. Apart from that keep doing what you are doing. Thank you.
Great stuff! Even though I am bit of an aircraft aficionado, i had not heard of BSAA nor the mysterious disappearances of its 2 airliners. Just to note: BOAC is usually spoken as B-O-A-C not boac...
I remember watching tv shows on the Bermuda triangle when I was just a kid, it scared the crap out of me.
British South Americans Airways had bad safety record. In 3 years they had 11 serious accidents and lost 5 planes. They were 50 times more likely to crash than BOC.
The Tudor 4 was operating at extreme range. On a perfect flight it would only have had 2 hours reserve. However this flight had stronger than forecast head winds which revised their ETA to 1 hour later and they were flying at 2,000 feet for passenger comfort because of that broken heater which would have increased the rate of fuel consumption. They had also reported a broken compass.
Captain Peter Duffy who flu the Tudor 4 said the stop cocks for the emergency reserve were at the back of the passenger luggage cupboard but never learnt where they were until after the accident happened.
I'm not sure this as big as mystery as they make out. Lot of misinformation out there. Berlitz's book includes ships that sank no where near the 'triangle'. Problem is that books with Bermuda Triangle Mystery sell and books that debunk it never get printed.
Charles Berlitz and Erich van Däniken. Between them they have a LOT to answer for! Ppl are still believing their utter bs. Provable bs.
The stop cocks were one of the theories proposed- they might have been turned off when the fuel pump was replaced. But, like other theories, there is no way to tell without evidence. The headwinds seem unsatisfying to me- it was an experienced crew, they had alternate landing options, and if it was a simple fuel issue there would have been ample time for an SOS. Moreover, another plane flew the same route just an hour ahead, and not only survived, but the Star Tiger was receiving regular updates from them. The weather conditions were simply not extraordinary. Your position is consistent with the Ministry accident report- there are a number of things that might have happened, but no way to prove any. Still, to simply disappear without and SOS and no sign of wreckage is not normal by any means, and two such wrecks in such s brief period has to be seen as extraordinary.
I agree (and made the point in the conclusion) that there is no evidence that mysterious disappearances are more common in the "Bermuda triangle" than other well traveled lanes. Still, MH 370 strikes home the point that Jones made 74 years ago that "It is the same big world the ancients knew, into which men and their machines and ships can disappear without a trace.”
Agreed- it is hyperbolized to sell books. But there are many legitimate mysteries- Flight 19 and the Martin mariner, USS Cyclops and Proetus, Star Tiger and Star Ariel, and numerous smaller craft, missing without explanation. You don't need a mysterious triangle to note that craft that simply disappear without a trace represent a mystery, and deserve to be remembered.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel First, excellent video as always. Your aviation videos are always spot on! As to Star Tiger, it is significant that their last reported altitude was 2000 ft MSL. It is theorized that Captain McMillan flew this particular flight at lower altitudes to avoid the strong headwinds. Their normal cruise altitude was 20,000 ft. MSL. Altimeters of that era had three needles, indicating the altitude in 100’, 1000’, and 10,000’ increments. One theory, which I happen to believe is that after a 12 hour flight, on their descent into Bermuda, the crew or pilot flying forgot they were flying at 2000’ instead of their normal 20,000’. The very small 10,000’ foot indicator needle would normally be at the 2 o’clock position, but on this descent would been just slightly right of the 12 o’clock position and easily missed. I believe that this flight was a simple Controlled Flight into Terrain (ocean) - CFIT accident. The crew unknowing and completely unaware flew their airplane into the ocean. As for Star Ariel…now that’s the real mystery! Thanks again!
The Tudor aircraft had barely enough range for the routes it had to fly. The heating system was not a good design being crammed under the floor due to limited space. This made it difficult to repair and also to detect any fire starting there.
Certainly a flawed design.
Superb shirt! I have one which is almost identical.
Love your channel and your shirt !! :-)
Great shirt!
To those commenting about boe-ack being incorrect as opposed to B-O-A-C: I have frequently heard the former used informally.
4:43 *_STENDEC_*
_Stardust_ was a Lancastrian.
'Trains are just as deadly as airplanes! A terrible train wreck killed over one hundred people!'... 'Oh my, what happened?'... 'A plane fell on it!'...😳
I love the jacket. So appropriate. Good video. Thank you.
Ironic comment given your sponsor - the Brits pronounced all the letters B O A C, like you correctly said B E A, not "Boack", but as always greatly appreciate your history stories
Ignorant Yanks 😀😀😀
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I read an article some years ago. It said that the elevators on Avro Tudors had a propensity to lock iinto the down position, which would cause an unrecoverable dive. It is interesting that the British Air Ministry later withdrew the Tudors type approval cert. This is significant as it was a British built aircraft.
Now, that is a mystery indeed.
Amazing shirt!
Where one would find such a fine man blouse with a world map adorned upon it?
I got it online, but I had, shall we say, customer service issues that prevent me from recommending the vendor.
I think their LFADF (low frequency automatic direction finding) system was malfunctioning, or not installed on those aircraft, as aircraft as early as the 1930's were installed with LFADF, aircraft in the US Military in the 1980's, when I was in, used LFADF. I was a Aircraft Communications, Navigations, Radar Systems Technician in the US Military.
There is also a problem with LFADF you can fly 180° from where you want to go, if your compass is malfunctioning or you don't pay attention to it.
My dad served In the US Navy during WWII. He said he seen the Bermuda triangle. Calm and peaceful. And also very stormy
Love the globe shirt❤❤❤
Thank you for the lesson.
Love your videos
Love the shirt!!!
That shirt is the Bermuda triangle of clothes😂
Love the videos, though😊👍🏻
I’ve never heard it called Boac ( a word ) only B O A C. Each letter spoken. I’m 63 and family from England who visited often came on that airline and they all called it B O A C. Btw the history guy is great Cheers from Montreal
I love maps! Love the shirt
You sir are a national treasure and would like to hear a history to remember the history of the history guy and can you also do the history of leather thank you very very much for all you do
Love the shirt. We've given them to lots of men in the family and they seem to like them. They are sun protection if houre outdoors a lot like sailing
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy babble-fish was a very effective translator of everything you need not know.
Thank you, THG for not sensationiszing the "lost aircraft" tales. The remembrance is very important, though.
I can’t help but notice that this was Britain’s first pressurized passenger aircraft and wonder if these disappearances have any have any parallels to the De Havilland Comets that broke up in flight just a few years later. The cause of the Comet breakups was found to be related to repeated repressurizations AND structural weakness from the square windows. (Yes, I know there were later found to be additional design and manufacture issues that contributed).
Should send one of those deep dive two man subs. Could be a deep trench that swallowed up the planes
I think BOAC was usually pronounced as four separate letters. E.g., see the Beatles "Back in the USSR."
Yes, "Flew in from Miami Beach Bo-ack" just doesn't ring right.
@@orbyfan Was always spocken as letters , the same with BEA, on whose aircraft I flew many times.
Correct. Son of a senior BOAC exec here.
The history guy has the best big igloo shirts
Beautiful Shirt!
Thats a great shirt!
I've been enjoying your videos and referring others for years now. But the ethics of UA-cam have been in decline and today when I went to watch one of your videos I was greeted by "Join this channel to get access to members-only content like this video, and other exclusive perks". Because I'm grateful for the enjoyment of so many of your brief lessons over such a long time, I thought I should leave a last message letting you know that you are now history.
What is wrong with channel memberships?
I flew with my team on American Airlines from Miami to JFK to Bermuda in 1998 in a hell of a storm. Landed safely in Hamilton but definitely an experience.
They can get you anywhere anytime. Bermuda triangle is just a place where we have heard about it
No-one pronounced it Bowack. My father was a senior employee of B.O.A.C. based in New York and everyone pronounced it the same way the Beatles pronounce it in "Back in the USSR." ie B...O...A....C.
MH-370. As advanced as we may consider ourselves, strange things still happen. Thank you Lance.
That was fascinating. I had never heard that before.
I'm really interested in that map shirt.
Look, if you look at the charts for ocean currents, the Bermuda Triangle (and a similar area in the Pacific Ocean south of Japan called the "Devil's Sea') have one thing in common: a very sharp turn of the ocean currents from going west to going north. I think that sharp turn in the ocean currents can cause very strange anomalies in the weather, such as going from calm weather and clear skies to cloudy and stormy weather in a very short period of time. It's that sudden change in weather conditions that can cause planes to disappear and ships to sink because they can't deal with the suddent worsening weather.