Hey guys, I’m posting this to clear the air on a couple things. Recently, I collaborated with a very talented dancer by the name of Kristy Sellars to create the Alice In Wonderland dance on her youtube channel. This is a project that we have been working on TOGETHER for months. After she uploaded her performance to youtube, both her and I have been receiving comments from people who think that she stole my work and is trying to take credit for herself. This is NOT the case. With my permission, I licensed out my visuals to her, and created some new animations to be adapted for her pole dance. Two years ago I originally developed this dance with Andrea Taylor, a dance teacher at my alma mater high school. She is the original choreographer and came up with the concept for the piece. We had no idea how much it would blow up when I uploaded it to my channel, giving me opportunities to work with people from all over the world (to which I am extremely grateful). I appreciate the concern from viewers who are trying to defend me and ensure I get proper credit, as all artists should. Andrea Taylor and I are both credited in the video description for our respective roles. Working with professional dancers is new to me, and I'm learning as I go. This will be a lesson to learn from, and going forward we will make sure that the credits for these dances are clear. Thanks for your understanding. -Ryan
It's his work - surely he is entitled to use it again. Just the same as a choreographer using the same combo or sequence in a routine. We can't all be 100% original, 100% of the time
Andrea, I know you're feeling great about this incredible, mind grabbing production. The inspired, disciplined, professional work and mesmerizing performance, by all involved, is captivating. It's imagination come to life. Well done. Kudos to everyone involved. Bellissimo!
I am working on a master thesis and doing some research before hand to streamline my creative process. I am super inspired by your work and would love your input. What do you think is the simplest and fastest editing program (s) for interactive projection mapping? Do you have any hints, tips and tricks that would help a beginner? I have worked in film editing and lighting so I am some what familiar with the process. Thank you thank you thank you!
Hey I have been asked to do something like this for my dance school.. I was wondering what programs and equipment you use? I have access to blender and adobe on my laptop and need to play around with animating as well as video editing
Hi Ryan, this was phenomenal and I'd like to know what software you used for this? I'm trying to change scenes using projection mapping for a theatre play. Hope to hear your input! :)
Hi Ryan. The Cheshire Cat is amazing. this kind of performance is the new entertainment. Seeing the introduction, I notice you use after effect software. what model computer do you use?
Your work is incredible. I'm in a video projection class and I was just wondering what kind of programs you suggest? I really like how everything mixed together.
+racatrin Right now I do everything in Adobe. I just finished up another projection project that involved using Flash to animate, but it all ends up in After Effects for the final composite and render. I haven't tried learning any software that's specific to this kind of thing. What programs are you learning about in your class?
i didn't know that this was possible in adobe Ive only heard of vvvv and max in order to do video projections i know this a late comment and you might know more by now but i hope it helps keep striving!
Hello of Ryan ! For you large talent, do I live In Kazakhstan and I engage in to the show the program, very very pleased me dance steeply, I have at home projector and I very want to create dance with to the projectors as you, but I do not know as (( what program is needed ? what projector is tender ? how to do it I too do not know, please help give advice
Hi Ryan, Wonderful and ambitious project, which you have collaborated ! Symbiosis between choregraphy, music, texts, lights, special effects… realy amazing. One question : your animations (dancer, cat, moving shapes…) were they "premixed" with the background video movie, before the show ? or the both together projected, simultaneously, on the background screen during the presentation ? Anyway... Brillant ! Thanks. Gérard
I've just seen Kristy Sellar's performance at Pole Theatre. first thought she had copied your work, but glad to read, that you worked with her. Nevertheless I think you should be mentioned! it is YOUR awesome work, that made her performance great!
Kristy Sellars no offence I LOVED your performance! I was just a little bit bewildered that everybody thought it was completely new whereas the concept and the idea of the whole Alice theme isn't. Fair enough it is a great adaption to pole dance!!
+elphe elfenwald absolutely agree, it spread much faster than Ryan and I could have imagined and we both would have done a couple of things differently had we known! But everyone is credited in the descriptions and although the concept was already created, we both worked extremely hard to create around 50% of the visuals that you see in my performance from scratch. As well as 90% of the choreography itself is all new as well.
+Kristy Sellars thank you for replying to me I did not expect you to take the time out of your life to do that it was very kind of you.You are a very smart intelligent business woman,you don't get where you are without brains.I find it very hard to believe that someone of your skills failed to research,especially seeing as Ryan does state at the beginning of his video who the choreographer was. 😍 thank you and have a nice day
+Kristy Sellars thank you for replying to me I did not expect you to take the time out of your life to do that it was very kind of you.You are a very smart intelligent business woman,you don't get where you are without brains.I find it very hard to believe that someone of your skills failed to research,especially seeing as Ryan does state at the beginning of his video who the choreographer was. 😍 thank you and have a nice day
Where did you find you definition of interactivity ? For you mean, this means that's it's interactive because it's live and there is no post-production effects ... but this is wrong ! Your show is pretty cool and the images are great ... but this is just a dance show with video ... that's all. Interactive video means that the dancer is free of his/her mouvements, because the video is following him/her ... and not the contrary. To do this, you need a live camera, like a kinect, and create interactive video programm, to make the video changing according to the dancer's mouvement
You're right, the whole thing is planned out and created ahead of time, much like a movie has a script. However, each part would not work without the other, and the things that happen on-screen are affected by the choreography which is specific to this dance. So, it is interactive in the sense that the visuals are dictated by the dancing. If there was a generic animation that did not move according the dancer and it could be performed without it, that would be my definition of "non-interactive". Of course not every second of the visuals are interactive, but a good portion of it is.
yup, we've done this for projects after this one. We rear projected The Abduction & Kristy's version of Cheshire Cat ua-cam.com/video/0HafWxCGkZI/v-deo.html
Ryan, this is very impressive. That said, may I make a general comment about design in theatre? What you and the Dance Teacher have created is essentially a multi-media work. Now, I know this kind of artistic work is not new to theatre stages or art galleries. However, as something of a purist I believe stage performers deserve better than being "subsumed" by attention grabbing digital technology (and even overly elaborate sets). The theatre stage and its inhabitants are reliant on scale; whereas film is in a sense scaleless. I have no issue with film or video using abstract time space or dimension devices, as this media is essentially "plastic", and well placed to focus on a filmmaker's creative achievements. On the other hand I believe little is gained by swamping stage performers with technology that diminishes their human scale. If one is a digital artist and wishes to be autonomous, my suggestion would be to restrain from theatre work; remain in film, and allow theatre performers to take centre stage. I apologise if I sound too harsh.
+Peter Solomon part of the intended effect was to show Alice as tiny compared to the digital fantasy imagery (as per the original Lewis Carroll story, where she shrinks etc....) so in that way the combination of effects and live dance did seem appropriate, and the way she was 'swamped' actually a reflection of the psychological theme of the work.
+Peter Solomon There is no need to belittle this kind of work with your preference for the presence of light to not be grandiose. I feel part of the point here was to diminish the human scale. Maybe you would like another story, where the same multi-media can be done more minimally, or used to enhance the human presence.
+Ryan X I will say this much, projected media in theatre is not be new, but it has gained wide use today as projectors and contemporary lights are now capable of "filling" large spaces with dense colour. There are also practical reasons for using projections: designing a stage set with coloured light is simply less expensive than designing a set with custom built scenery. Intellectually I accept what you and Paula Street say about the psychological aspects of Carroll's story. Equally, philosophically I believe that flooding a performer with over-scaled light (or practical scenery) draws attention to the work of the designer, not the performer. Whether the event is the Eurovision Song Contest, Rock Concerts, Modern Dance or Pro-Am Theatre, when you have scenery that out scales human form, performers are secondary to anything else. On a more general level, the limitation of theatre is that you cannot balance lavishly designed, overwhelming "wide shots" with a "intimate medium close ups", as film can. But then, theatre is not meant to be film, is it?
Wow!!! Absolutely Phenomenal!
So talented and so young! Keep it up!
This was freaking amazing!! I can't believe I've never seen this before! Well done, everyone who worked on this. DAMN!
Hey guys,
I’m posting this to clear the air on a couple things. Recently, I collaborated with a very talented dancer by the name of Kristy Sellars to create the Alice In Wonderland dance on her youtube channel. This is a project that we have been working on TOGETHER for months. After she uploaded her performance to youtube, both her and I have been receiving comments from people who think that she stole my work and is trying to take credit for herself. This is NOT the case. With my permission, I licensed out my visuals to her, and created some new animations to be adapted for her pole dance. Two years ago I originally developed this dance with Andrea Taylor, a dance teacher at my alma mater high school. She is the original choreographer and came up with the concept for the piece. We had no idea how much it would blow up when I uploaded it to my channel, giving me opportunities to work with people from all over the world (to which I am extremely grateful).
I appreciate the concern from viewers who are trying to defend me and ensure I get proper credit, as all artists should. Andrea Taylor and I are both credited in the video description for our respective roles. Working with professional dancers is new to me, and I'm learning as I go. This will be a lesson to learn from, and going forward we will make sure that the credits for these dances are clear. Thanks for your understanding.
-Ryan
It's his work - surely he is entitled to use it again. Just the same as a choreographer using the same combo or sequence in a routine. We can't all be 100% original, 100% of the time
Ryan Talbot- VFXftw
I'm a dance teacher. How can I contact you?
I LOVED this. You did an amazing job man. Please keep doing what you do!
WOW Ryan, that's amazing & wonderful talent you worked with as well. From your New York family- great job! hope to see you all soon
this is absolutely amazing!
This is BEAUTIFUL! Really, i'm impressed. Cheers from Brasil, keep up with the amazing work.
you're a genius my friend!
Wonderful creative vision. You and others with similar talents are creating new artforms. Very impressive.
Andrea, I know you're feeling great about this incredible, mind grabbing production. The inspired, disciplined, professional work and mesmerizing performance, by all involved, is captivating. It's imagination come to life. Well done. Kudos to everyone involved. Bellissimo!
You found a new fan! i love your storytelling
Wonderful work!!! How can I get just the Cheshire Cat smile from you? So much talent!
You are creatively talented!
This is fantastic!
I am working on a master thesis and doing some research before hand to streamline my creative process. I am super inspired by your work and would love your input. What do you think is the simplest and fastest editing program (s) for interactive projection mapping? Do you have any hints, tips and tricks that would help a beginner? I have worked in film editing and lighting so I am some what familiar with the process. Thank you thank you thank you!
Ryan this is spectacular. :)
It's amazing!
I really liked the video why it explains what it has to explain and I really liked it
Ryan Talbot is THA MAN
Hey I have been asked to do something like this for my dance school.. I was wondering what programs and equipment you use? I have access to blender and adobe on my laptop and need to play around with animating as well as video editing
Hi Ryan, this was phenomenal and I'd like to know what software you used for this? I'm trying to change scenes using projection mapping for a theatre play. Hope to hear your input! :)
Very talented!!
this was amazing! how did you do this?
What kind of equipment was used for the projection
Does anyone know where the talking voice is from? I'd love to hear the whole story if it's an audiobook.
did you create the audio ? I'm trying to find the background music 😭
Great job! Impressive! How many hours does it takes you for all this! Cauz' it's kind of impressive work there! Great job!
Hi Ryan. The Cheshire Cat is amazing. this kind of performance is the new entertainment. Seeing the introduction, I notice you use after effect software. what model computer do you use?
awesome jus awesome it was different and I loved it❤❤❤❤
Hi Ryan, is very good! What program do you use?
amazing
great job Ryan talbot hope you can visit Westmont again love brianna in Mrs.Talbots class
Awesome. 👍👍
incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow this is very good
How old are you?!?!?! LOL! OMG! My mouth hit the floor this was insane. Wow! Standing ovation.
I've sent you a message, wondering about using this in a production coming up and wanted to see if we could?
hi nce video im also planning to do this for our performance what did you use for the background? is that an led wall or a projector?
Ross Gene Claire Abellanosa did you find out what the wall was made out of?
Your work is incredible. I'm in a video projection class and I was just wondering what kind of programs you suggest? I really like how everything mixed together.
+racatrin Right now I do everything in Adobe. I just finished up another projection project that involved using Flash to animate, but it all ends up in After Effects for the final composite and render. I haven't tried learning any software that's specific to this kind of thing. What programs are you learning about in your class?
i didn't know that this was possible in adobe Ive only heard of vvvv and max in order to do video projections i know this a late comment and you might know more by now but i hope it helps keep striving!
Can i use your video for my dance performance?
Hello of Ryan ! For you large talent, do I live In Kazakhstan and I engage in to the show the program, very very pleased me dance steeply, I have at home projector and I very want to create dance with to the projectors as you, but I do not know as (( what program is needed ? what projector is tender ? how to do it I too do not know, please help give advice
U don t get enough credit for the AGT 2022 act 😉 i went to surch for u re work! Regards from Switzerland
is there anyway for me to get a copy of this video, like the original without the girl
Hi Ryan,
Wonderful and ambitious project, which you have collaborated ! Symbiosis between choregraphy, music, texts, lights, special effects… realy amazing.
One question : your animations (dancer, cat, moving shapes…) were they "premixed" with the background video movie, before the show ? or the both together projected, simultaneously, on the background screen during the presentation ? Anyway... Brillant ! Thanks.
Gérard
Good question...It was all pre-mixed before the show! Glad you liked it :)
Ryan Talbot- VFXftw
Ok, Thanks !
Respect!!!! :)!
ME ENCANTA, SOY BAILARIN, COREOGRAFO Y QUISIERA HACER ALGO PARECIDO, SOLO Q NO TENGO INFORMACION SOBRE COMO LO HAGO. ME AYUDAN?
Is it a real interactive projection or is a simple video and the performer knows how she has to move?
very cool
I've just seen Kristy Sellar's performance at Pole Theatre. first thought she had copied your work, but glad to read, that you worked with her. Nevertheless I think you should be mentioned! it is YOUR awesome work, that made her performance great!
Hi Elphe, Ryan is in my documentary (with a photo) and also credited in the UA-cam video itself on my channel ;-) he's amazing!
Kristy Sellars no offence I LOVED your performance! I was just a little bit bewildered that everybody thought it was completely new whereas the concept and the idea of the whole Alice theme isn't. Fair enough it is a great adaption to pole dance!!
+elphe elfenwald absolutely agree, it spread much faster than Ryan and I could have imagined and we both would have done a couple of things differently had we known! But everyone is credited in the descriptions and although the concept was already created, we both worked extremely hard to create around 50% of the visuals that you see in my performance from scratch. As well as 90% of the choreography itself is all new as well.
+Kristy Sellars thank you for replying to me I did not expect you to take the time out of your life to do that it was very kind of you.You are a very smart intelligent business woman,you don't get where you are without brains.I find it very hard to believe that someone of your skills failed to research,especially seeing as Ryan does state at the beginning of his video who the choreographer was. 😍 thank you and have a nice day
+Kristy Sellars thank you for replying to me I did not expect you to take the time out of your life to do that it was very kind of you.You are a very smart intelligent business woman,you don't get where you are without brains.I find it very hard to believe that someone of your skills failed to research,especially seeing as Ryan does state at the beginning of his video who the choreographer was. 😍 thank you and have a nice day
Did you use a type of software or app? If so could you share it with me?
Where did you find you definition of interactivity ? For you mean, this means that's it's interactive because it's live and there is no post-production effects ... but this is wrong !
Your show is pretty cool and the images are great ... but this is just a dance show with video ... that's all.
Interactive video means that the dancer is free of his/her mouvements, because the video is following him/her ... and not the contrary. To do this, you need a live camera, like a kinect, and create interactive video programm, to make the video changing according to the dancer's mouvement
You're right, the whole thing is planned out and created ahead of time, much like a movie has a script. However, each part would not work without the other, and the things that happen on-screen are affected by the choreography which is specific to this dance. So, it is interactive in the sense that the visuals are dictated by the dancing. If there was a generic animation that did not move according the dancer and it could be performed without it, that would be my definition of "non-interactive". Of course not every second of the visuals are interactive, but a good portion of it is.
chill
i would say ... this is perceived or staged "interaction". this is different from interaction due to gesture or body movement detection by sensor
What Lucas said!
This is the exact routine used by Kristy Sellars
superb
🎉🎉🎉🎉 tutorial!?
wow does it tell a story ???
wah very nice
Inspiring! Thank you all. 😹
I recently saw a Pole person do this exact same routine
Yup! I worked with her to modify this dance to work with her choreography :)
Hi Ryan,
We are doing a musical of Alice in an elementary school. Is it possible to use your projection? It would help us al lot!
Daya
is there anyone you could so something small like this for me?
+genacie bates shoot me an email for business inquiries. I do license out this dance for specific events.
what is your email
+genacie bates Go to my channel page, click on the "about" section and you'll find it there. :)
i cannot find it nor do i see it. may you post it here beifley please! Ryan Talbot- VFXftw
ryantalbotmedia (at) gmail . com
Fucking amazing; can I ask how old you are?
+Ryan Dunlap 18 and counting.
It's pronounced "che-sher". All the "shires" are pronounced "sher". Great work by the way mate.
Ryan, please check your messages as I am trying to get ahold of you.
One tip, back project so you don't project onto your performers if possible
yup, we've done this for projects after this one. We rear projected The Abduction & Kristy's version of Cheshire Cat ua-cam.com/video/0HafWxCGkZI/v-deo.html
Ryan, this is very impressive. That said, may I make a general comment about design in theatre? What you and the Dance Teacher have created is essentially a multi-media work. Now, I know this kind of artistic work is not new to theatre stages or art galleries. However, as something of a purist I believe stage performers deserve better than being "subsumed" by attention grabbing digital technology (and even overly elaborate sets). The theatre stage and its inhabitants are reliant on scale; whereas film is in a sense scaleless.
I have no issue with film or video using abstract time space or dimension devices, as this media is essentially "plastic", and well placed to focus on a filmmaker's creative achievements. On the other hand I believe little is gained by swamping stage performers with technology that diminishes their human scale. If one is a digital artist and wishes to be autonomous, my suggestion would be to restrain from theatre work; remain in film, and allow theatre performers to take centre stage. I apologise if I sound too harsh.
+Peter Solomon part of the intended effect was to show Alice as tiny compared to the digital fantasy imagery (as per the original Lewis Carroll story, where she shrinks etc....) so in that way the combination of effects and live dance did seem appropriate, and the way she was 'swamped' actually a reflection of the psychological theme of the work.
+Peter Solomon There is no need to belittle this kind of work with your preference for the presence of light to not be grandiose. I feel part of the point here was to diminish the human scale. Maybe you would like another story, where the same multi-media can be done more minimally, or used to enhance the human presence.
+Ryan X I will say this much, projected media in theatre is not be new, but it has gained wide use today as projectors and contemporary lights are now capable of "filling" large spaces with dense colour. There are also practical reasons for using projections: designing a stage set with coloured light is simply less expensive than designing a set with custom built scenery.
Intellectually I accept what you and Paula Street say about the psychological aspects of Carroll's story. Equally, philosophically I believe that flooding a performer with over-scaled light (or practical scenery) draws attention to the work of the designer, not the performer. Whether the event is the Eurovision Song Contest, Rock Concerts, Modern Dance or Pro-Am Theatre, when you have scenery that out scales human form, performers are secondary to anything else.
On a more general level, the limitation of theatre is that you cannot balance lavishly designed, overwhelming "wide shots" with a "intimate medium close ups", as film can. But then, theatre is not meant to be film, is it?
+Peter Solomon I guess the only thing i can say is u can't see a performer without light
Like si veniste por la tarea:)
WHAT THE FUCK