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Discussion of Vinland Saga Book 4 with Merphy Napier
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2022
- The wonderful Merphy Napier joins me to discuss the end of the first arc of Vinland Saga, book four! Our discussions of books one and three appeared on Merphy's second channel, @merphynapierreviews, and our chat about book two previously dropped here. All of our discussions of the manga can be found in the "Vinland Saga" playlist on my channel. In addition, Merphy, who is introducing me to manga, has other content about Vinland Saga and other manga on her main channel, @merphynapier42.
Thank you again for having me Philip!!! These discussions have been amazing.
Heads up to the anime only people, we do discuss the first two chapters in the next arc in this video too!
Awesome! I am looking forward to it!
Thank you, Merphy! Also, thanks for the reminder about the first two chapters in arc 2. I'm incredibly excited for our next chats!
Those pages at 33:52 were beautiful!
Its always a blast to share a story with a friend, no matter the media.
@@ramosdiaz3575 So true!
I love how Yukimura foreshadows Thorffin’s future … Askeladd once said that everyone is a slave to something and this first arc show us how Thorffin became an slave of himself, his range and his revenge . Now he is literally an slave …. ( I want to say more but I don’t want to spoil anyone haha)
That's very well said, Camila! Askeladd certainly had some wisdom, and Thorfinn was definitely a slave to his anger and vengeance. It's very cool how Yukimura foreshadows and deals with these themes.
Askeladd knows to point that out with Thorfinn because he is the same even if he's clever/smarter in his ways.
Black pages are sometimes intentionally used as a pause. These are usually not included in the magazine release, but in the volume release of the manga. Inio Asano does this often after a depressing scene or big reveal, which helps you let what just happened sink in.
However, they can also just be filler pages to offset the page number (previous chapter ending on the left page, next chapter starting on the left page).
Interesting. Thanks for the insight.
nice
I think they also make the story more powerful.
Thank you -- this is most helpful!
Sort of like an intermission?
I respect and adore how Yukimura spun a character of Askeladd from Askeladden. Where he took the outline of who Askeladden was within folklore and animated him to Askeladd through liberties allowed in historical fiction.
There are very few occasions where you come across such a character in stories, and it truly was a treat and blessing to witness the realization of him as the prologue was being serialized.
Beautifully said! Askeladd is an excellent creation, and I’m glad Yukimura made such a compelling character.
Book 4 is definitely the best in the first arc (I haven't read beyond it yet). Everything has been building toward this volume, and it does not disappoint! One of my few complaints was that I wanted more Ylva. I think she has potential. Maybe we'll see more of her in future volumes.
I'd love to see more of Ylva too, Doug!
I like merphy started adopting some of the little quirks of the Dr. I.e. making a statement, and then capping it off with something like, “don’t we?” Or “isn’t he?” Or something like that.
Very charming. These two mesh so so so well together in conversation. Very natural and beautifully exploratory discussion.
Merphy is a gifted conversation partner, and, as I've remarked before, her enthusiasm tends to be contagious!
It has been a great pleasure to see Philip embrace manga as a medium for storytelling.
Thank you, Toby! It’s been a pleasure discovering it!
One thing I found interesting is that Askeladd's mother was the only person who he was ever truly loyal to in his life. Like he loyally followed Canute but that was only really after Canute's transformation and Askeladd really only did it fulfill his own agenda. That is, he needed Canute in order to secure Wale's safety. As cold as Askeladd appears at times, you can tell how highly he viewed his mother and how important it was to him to fulfill her dreams. He took care of her as a child, overthrew his father's rule in order to get the resources to take her back to Wales to pass away in her homeland, and then dedicated his life to protecting the land she cared so deeply for. Not to mention, Askeladd's blood boiled both times when king Sweyn insulted her/ Wales.
Excellent point, Braeden. I agree that the only pure loyalty that Askeladd shows is to his mother. There’s something touching and even beautiful about his devotion to her. Thanks for the comment!
Decided one afternoon to watch Vinland saga and binged it till 5 am and then read the manga the next day also till 5 am 😂 to say I got hooked would be an understatement
That is a textbook case of getting hooked on a great story!
Ever since Philip started this I could NOT wait to hear his thoughts on the climax of the first arc I'm so excited !
Thank you, Vincent! Book four really delivered!
I so wanted to mention Askeladd when you were discussing fathers and their influence on the characters. Thorfinn and Canute both had a bit of Askeladd in them as you discussed. Askeladd took matters in his own hand instead of waiting on his ancestor to return and being back paradise on earth, but he also sacrificed so much of goodness in him that he is far away from a good person worth of that paradise. He knew that, he saw someone capable of that in Thors. Revenge would be selfish and a loss, but Askeladd with his last moments made a choice that is right, one that is better than the two of evils he had to pick between
Beautifully said! Askeladd's reaction to Thors -- wanting him to lead -- is a nice foreshadowing of his reaction to Canute, in whom Askeladd sees the potential for a great leader. This is confirmed by Thorkell's reaction to the two, especially when the they appear side by side in Thorkell's memory. Very cool stuff!
Those black pages are made for those dual page panels, without them, you would have that total image formation splitted instead of that awesome art moment. It is also made for those “turn the page” moments, it is one of the feel moments that the author can surprise you in this kind of media (that sensation when you turn the page and get goosebumps), basically it is a storytelling component that they think when producing it (sorry, english is not my first language)
Thank you, Epitacio! That explanation makes a lot of sense!
I think they also give the reader a chance to take a breath/have a short intermission before jumping into the next act or volume.
Ooh, thumbnail cameo from Adam Savage, cool!
Lmaooo
Not guy fieri ? 🤣
@@joej2285 thats even more funny
It's not the most flattering look for me, but anything to make you smile, Paul! 😁
@@joej2285 Nah, he's too pudgy to fit in there.
Merphy smiling like a proud parent as Philips speaks about slavery being forshadowed. 😂
Merphy has been the ideal conversation partner!
The collaboration we all needed
Yes, definitely! I love learning more about the series before I start it and also learning the history behind makes it that much more interesting. As someone who absolutely loves history, I really like how the author incorporated that into the story and it sounds like he weaved it in so well. Hearing Merphy and Philip talk about it and then Philip discussing the history makes it a much better experience.
Thank you!
@@britneynicole8903 Thank you, Britney!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy You are welcome!
Great discussion! This last volume was great there is something very shakespearean about this kind of ending. I look forward to you reading the next arc because this is where Thorfinn truly becomes a protagonist of his story. Askeladd's ending was masterfully executed, he was really someone who lived as his father, conniving, pillaging, killing, being essentially the same man he prayed for Artorius to end, that was his greatest tragedy, yet he died for his mother's ideals finally allowing for two new Artoriuses (Canute and Thorfinn) to be born. I was always conflicted about his relationship with Thorfinn, he uses him, manipulates him to get what he wants, plays with his emotions, gives him just a bit of taste of possible revange to keep him going after him, leaves him to thorkell and only helps him when his own ass is dependent on thorfinn winning but at the end just like with Atli he wishes something better for him. He wisehs that Thorfinn doesn't become like him and follow in the steps of a man he wanted to kill, like he did with his father. I can't see him as a father to Thorfinn because I have a wonderful dad and I know that true parent indeed challenges their child but also does so in much more healthy ways, but still it is very clear how for what time and beginning of their relationship these two were given, their bond was about much more than just vengeance.
Beautifully said about Askeladd! Also, I agree with the use of the word "Shakespearean" here -- this is an ending reminiscent of the Bard's tragedies.
The use of all black pages are very deliberate. Manga didn't always do this. The first time I saw was about 20 years ago. It didn't start but ended in pure black, and not just one or two pages, but went on and on for about 6 pages. The story ended so crazy, so claustrophobic it shook me to the core. I still think about it from time to time. (I won't mention the name of the manga in case if you two ever run into it). It was one of my all time favorite manga thrillers.
It sounds like there are solid reasons for the black pages. I’m enjoying learning about some of the manga conventions. Thanks!
So pumped, the moment we’ve all been waiting for! Thanks again for covering the series
It's a huge pleasure to be covering this series!
I know you covered the loss of another father figure in Thorfinn's life with Askeladd's demise, but even the medium conveys this perfectly when you look at the panel Thors dies and the panel he is holding up Askeladd dying asking what he'll do now. Thorfinn is center stage clutching them with both hands grieving in the same manner and the choice of negative space in these two panels creating nothing else in the world but him and his father figure in each really sends the message those two events aren't too far off. So good! Excited to see how he handles this loss a second time.
That’s a very cool connection you spotted there! I’m delighted with all the visual and narrative foreshadowing that Yukimura has woven into this grand story.
It's interesting to see how the paths of Thorfinn and Cnut diverge from this point on. Farmland saga is very different pacing wise from prologue yet the world is recognizably the same.
I’m excited to find out what happens in the second arc. Cheers!
I was so excited to hear thoughts on Askeladd’s death and this did not disappoint! I loved Askeladd so much and felt his loss in the 5th volume. I loved the subtext observations you two shared about him, Canute, Thorkell, and Thorfinn. This has to be one of my favorite coming-of-age stories because you see (literally) how Thorfinn experiences subtle and overt actions of others and how they affect who he is becoming.
So happy you loved the first arc, Philip! 🤍
Thank you, Johanna! I will miss Askeladd, but I’m looking forward to seeing how Thorfinn develops in the next arc. My very best to you!
I'm so glad that you mentioned Askeladd's self hatred as well. He even says to Canute that he's "just a viking", immediately after two reminders of his hatred for vikings. I love that in his journey to protect Wales from people like his father, he is forced to imitate him in many ways.
That’s one of the reasons Askeladd is such a compelling character. Cheers!
I really hope both of you continue to do these discussions for future Deluxe Volumes. And if not for ever volume, hopefully at least every arc
Thanks! We intend to chat about each book, which makes me incredibly excited. I have the next several books waiting!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy That's great to hear. One of the aspects I really enjoyed of you two going through each book was seeing all the predictions you make and then discussing how it actually turns out. So its great to hear this will continue on!
@@Neofilmcritic That is a lot of fun! Sometimes I’m right, and sometimes . . . Well, not so right!
I'm currently watching season 2 of Vinland Saga, and these conversations between Merphy and you make me appreciate it so much more than I already have. The characters are what made me love this series, but realising now how powerful the themes are, I can't wait to rewatch it!
Thank you so much!
Thank you for another wonderful discussion, Phillip. Book 4 is the climax of this arc, so I feel extra excited. I'm sure you and Merphy feel the same discussing it too.
I can't wait until the next book discussion.
Thanks so much! Book four delivered everything I could have wanted and more -- the perfect climax to this arc!
32:08 Cute doggo!!!
Great discussion!! I'm glad you're paying attention on the visual storytelling, Yukimura-sensei utilizes it masterfully!! It's a vital component of manga, yet not everyone looks close at it when they're first dipping into the medium - and to be fair, not every author either, it takes skill and practice, but sometimes a well drawn silent panel is louder than any word.
Thank you for the video!! It was a delight to listen to you!
Thanks so much! I hadn’t realized that Belladonna had a cameo in the video - she sometimes comes over to look out the window or say hello while I’m recording. I’m so glad you’re enjoying the chats!
Just finished Book Four this afternoon and wow just wow. I find myself at a loss for words on just how amazing the artwork,story and characters have been thus far. I’m very intrigued by the start of the next arc too. A lot of what you two brought up were thoughts I had while reading!
I’ll admit I also teared up three times during this particular volume.
Yes, book four hits really hard! More tears to come . . . All the best, Aidan!
For a European comic with Nordic elements, there is Thorgal. Thorgal incorporates much more fantasy. Might be worth checking out.
Thanks for the recommendation, Jeroen! Thorgal does indeed sound promising, especially for someone like yours truly!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy You're welcome. Be careful that you're not making an entirely new TBR for comics next to the one for books, it's another infinite well that you're jumping into, haha.
What a discussion 👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you! 😊
Indeed, the themes in this volume are gorgeous. Everything comes to a head and swells, opening up our eyes as viewers to so much ahead. I like the comments about Askeladd here, I hadn't considered those points of view beforehand. He didn't want Thorfinn to still be tied to his path of evil, especially knowing how kind and honorable his father Thors was. I have always thought that Askeladd kind of resented Thorfinn for having such a formidable father (which he never had) and still turning to a life viking. He lets go of that, and encourges his pseudo-son to venture further, to actually live a life worth living. It's so beautiful. It makes me cry every time
It really is beautiful, and beautifully executed!
Thank you so much for doing these recaps! It's been an absolute joy these last couple of weeks seeing how you both react to the story and themes. It almost feels like reading the series for the first time all over again with how you share your depth of knowledge of history and lore that this series pulls from!
Thanks, Dave! It makes me happy to know that people are enjoying these chats and reliving their own experiences with this incredible story.
Love these discussions so much! I think you both will find Attack on Titan manga interesting too. I know it's on Merphy's reading list but If you both ever do read it, would love to see a discussion on it. The story is completed, only 139 chapters and extremely dense.
Thank you, Devika! I hear good things about Attack on Titan.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy oh yeah if you ever read it, would love to hear your interpretation. I ask as a reader myself. It's one of those stories where it's clear that the author has a particular vision beginning to end but because it's so dense, you're never sure you got everything. So I'm always looking forward to new readers reading it to gain more perspective.
The serpent is a symbol of wisdom. This manga contains many scenes in which wild animals such as crows, owls, and wolves observe the foolish activities of humans.
I love the incorporation of symbols in Vinland Saga, and you are very right about the animals observing humans and our destructive activities. Thank you, Simai!
LETS GOOooO I LOVE!!!! long videos because work I be playing y’all videos like most normal people to music and podcast…. it’s enjoyable :)
Thanks so much! I am very glad we can give you some company at work.
Very happy with your vinland saga review with merphy... Still try to branching with your other video 😁 thanks for the good content... Have a nice day 😁
Thank you! I'm incredibly grateful for the support!
The thumbnail game is amazing 🔥 great job Philip! 😂
Thank you! I had a lot fun making this one!
Waited for this one!
Thank you, Dima!
I wasn't planning on starting a new manga, but after watching your DDF with Merphy I decided to join in due to the infectious enthusiasm she has for it. I've really enjoyed the discussions so far. I haven't ever watched any read-along type videos as I read something, but it adds something special to the reading experience as someone who has no friends who read that I can discuss with. Thanks to the both of you for making these and keep up the good work.
I'm starting my first Malazan reread shortly and, after discovering I enjoy these types of videos, I will definitely be watching your Malazan discussions with A.P. as I make my way through them.
This is the sort of comment that keeps me going, so my heartfelt thanks for leaving it, Starblind! I’m very happy that these discussions have been good company for your reading, and I agree wholeheartedly about Merphy’s enthusiasm.
Because of both of you talking about Vineland saga. I'm reading the first book and shall be reading more.
I hope you’ll love it, Shelly!
So glad they mentioned Torgrim, no spoilers, but we'll see him make a cameo later on, and boy does it hit.
Awesome!
Juat finished Book 5 myself, cant wait for yall to touch on the Farmland Arc!!
I just finished books 5 and 6, and we’ll be chatting about them soon. Cheers, Mark!
Loved your discussions
Thank you! I'm very happy that you enjoyed it!
Great video as always!
Thank you so much!
Hey Phillip, love your Vinland Saga content on your channel. Also next Book Review... Ask alot of questions about Einar and Thorfinn relationship... Would love to here more your and Merphy thoughts in the upcoming video.
Thanks so much, and I appreciate the heads up!
One thing you didn’t mention about Canute’s blow to Askeladd… am pretty sure Canute’s blow wasn’t fatal. Page 317 Askeladd says ‘is this the first time you’ve run a man through?’ Then there’s a “tug” where he pulls the sword in deeper, presumably to his heart. Then he releases the sword and utter the words ‘well done’.
Am I reading that right?! Very powerful and does add something to this death scene.
I am so excited!!
Thanks so much, Britney!
Great video Philip, cant wait for next book. Many mangareaders are also so worried about next arc, its next to be animated and everyone is afraid that it`ll be too slow or.... diffrent for those who watched only anime.
Thank you! I am intrigued to watch the anime of Vinland Saga and, of course, to read the next arc in the manga. Yukimura has set up some great themes in the first arc, and I'm sure those are included in the anime too, so perhaps anime viewers will appreciate those themes as they are explored. I hope so!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy If you decide to watch the anime then please I recommend you to not watch the English dub as it is terrible.
Watch it in Japanese with english subtitles
PS : There are only a handful animes who get a good english dub
@@hei7846 Thanks for the tip!
The true Protagonist of this prolouge was ASKELLAD 👑🔥
I agree completely -- this was Askeladd's book!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy can't wait to hear your thoughts on the next Arc 🔥
Merphy's smile when Philip is talking about slavery and thinking on the next arc.
I've finished books 5 and 6, so I'm definitely starting to get that smile! Cheers, Ramos!
This was a great ride! I hope you two will collab again for the next arc. Now, I have question: would Askeladd in the beginning of the story would have done the same thing aS Askeladd at the end? (ie. is ASkeladd the same as he was in the beginning or he had some character development along the way that led what he did toward the end?)
Likely not, bonding with both canute and gaining respect for him and thorfinn had to have an effect to entrust canute with his dream of him being "arthur". Which it turns out is not wrong, in history.
An even hi thought of , sorry thorfinn, :(
Askeladd definitely develops through arc one, so I suspect he's somewhat of a changed man, especially in how much he's become a father figure.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Interesting because I always thought that he is still the same person as he was in the beginning of the story. I think that he was just waiting for the right person to carry his dream and wish since before when he first met Thor, Askeladd asked him if he would like to be their leader and he said that he was joking but I think he wasn't.
@@nandrirandri4439 That's a valid reading of his character too!
@@nandrirandri4439 I agree. i think he's always been the same person. this prologue arc just helped slowly show all the layers of him
I love this discussion so much
I’m so glad!
The end of prologue.
And a very compelling introduction to the series it is!
Amazing set of discussions just like this amazing set of volumes. I have personally never seen another character written like Askeladd. He's technically the antagonist yet in some ways it's weird to call him that. Shows just how many different layers he has. It's impossible to just call him one thing. Rip to the man who stole the show. Next arc will be so different yet the character work will be even better. I'm caught up with the manga and things yet again are so different XD. Looking forward to future discussions!
Askeladd is indeed many-layered, complex, and compelling. A thoroughly iconic character! I look forward to that character work in the next arc since Yukimura has won my confidence.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Glad to know that he's won your confidence haha It's going to be tough without Askeladd tho :(
What I loved about the whole duel between Bjorn and Askeladd, is that Askeladd's inner thoughts and feelings are entirely up in the air. Personally, I think his hatred for Danes didn't leave Bjorn as an exception, but he still acknowledged and was sincerely grateful for both Bjorn's loyalty and his desire to befriend him, even knowing that he hated him. So when Askeladd told Bjorn that he was his only friend, it comes from a bittersweet place. He doesn't mean it, but he still wants to respond to Bjorn's desire to be his friend, by at least giving him peace in his final moments. Even if saying it was a lie
That's a compelling read of that scene!
I can highly recommend watching some of the more impactful scenes on YT or your streaming site of choice. Especially the last episode is just so beautiful
I look forward to watching!
Fantastic discussion you guys, really looking forward to hear your thoughts on the next arc 👍
Thank you so much, Benjamin! I’m glad you enjoyed the discussion!
Quite a thumbnail! Apparently Rama is getting very creative with her haircuts.
Hee hee! Pretty stylish, eh? 😁
Fantastic thumbnail, Dr. Fantasy!
Thank you, Branej! It was a labor of love!
I just started watching! I just have to say it … BOOK 4!!!
Yay! Thank you, Britney!
Oh man i think philips will adore berserk since its very very similer to vinland saga(i very much prefer the themes and complexity of Berserk , but Vinland saga is also great), its no surprise since yukimura is huge fan of berserk growing up, and its influences are clearly seen throughout vinland saga like canute personality some iconic panels, there are multiple berserk reference in the manga
I look forward to checking out Berserk someday!
The father killer makes the best dad, maybe their is a sense of penance in askeladd for that.
Most definitely. Though he grew up in a tough world that taught him bitter lessons about survival, Askeladd has a conscience. Cheers!
Oh wow you two are going fast!
It's hard not to binge the series at this point. Cheers!
The TV series reorders some scenes and adds a couple new scenes to this book all of which I think are amazing choices for both the story and the new medium and I can't recommend it enough.
One of my favorite decisions in the show was to add one more scene after Askeladd's backstory where he looks back to a wrathful Thorfinn one more time and says "I should thank you for your service, you were a useful kid. i should also thank Thors." And that singular line breaks Thorfinn. And as everyone leaves the scene Thorfinn looks at the blade attached to his arm (obvious symbolism there) and sees his reflection. And through the reflection he looks at the scenes of his life as a warrior and then back to his mangled face. And just before the end of the episode he lets out an animal scream.
I think this completely recontextualizes both Thorfinn and Askeladd's character and that perhaps it would have been best if Thorfinn just killed Askeladd in his sleep all those years ago and moved on. Or if he gave up the warrior's life to live with that family he betrayed. He's a character that had so many opportunities to give up the life he's been wasting for a decade.
And it really puts into perspective what Askeladd means when he says "i'll teach you how to kill someone you hate." On the outside that seems like a very silly question, there's only one way to go through with something like that: by any means necessary. And that's exactly the point. Thorfinn hasn't been taking this seriously, and is too caught up in how Thors fought and died to have accomplished his goal by any means necessary. It's one of my favorite lines in the story for that reason.
Sounds amazing!
What other mangas are you currently reading? They are so much fun to read. I know I have mentioned this a billion times probably now….but I am so excited to start Vinland Saga!!
Just Vinland Saga for now, but we'll see after I finish!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy That is awesome! I started reading mangas as a teenager! I found myself reading them along with the anime.
Onwards to farmland saga ^-^
I’m starting book five today!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Hope you'll consider giving some other manga a try with Murphy after you finish Vinland Saga , love these discussions.
@@saki1333 I’d love to, and I’m happy you’re enjoying the chats!
Philip if you liked vinland saga I would recommend kingdom another history fiction.
Thanks for the recommendation! Lots of people seem to think highly of Kingdom.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy well it is about unification of China I wish I could tell you more but I really like it for their military strategies.
@@demonprincemeliodias6590 Sounds intriguing!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy In manga there are many genre and senien manga like vinland saga are for age group 20 -40
and it's my preferred genere as story are character oriented and top 4 of this are:
•Beserk(it's inspiration for dark soul game and is dark fantasy but unlike vinland saga it's 1st volume isn't solid and you have to wait for it to become solid but it is regarded as best manga of all time and inspire vinland saga author )
•Vagabond(a fictionalized account of the life of Japanese swordsman Musashi Miyamoto, based on Eiji Yoshikawa's novel Musashi.)
•Kingdom (I put it above Vagabond because of it's war strategies depiction)
•Vinland saga
PS: Other favorite
•Goodnight punpun (finished) 13volumes
•March comes like a lion
•Monster it's mystery thriller (finished) 18volumes
Punpun and monster are quite short series and completed where as other are still in publishing.
To me, the Farm Arc is an interesting contrast to the Saga of Olav Tryggvason, the son of a Norwegian Petty King, who after the death of his Father spends much of his childhood as a slave, before being bought and freed by his relatives, then becoming a mighty Viking Raider, before becoming Christian and King of a Reunited Norway. Even with a strict hierarchy, a King could become a slave, and a former slave win a crown, through the wealth begotten from Viking Raids.
Beautifully said, MacScarfield, and I love the parallel you drew with Olaf Tryggvason. That’s quite a career!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I would also share the Men’s Choir Song “Olav Tryggvason”, set around his death and the capture of his longship “Ormen Lange”/“The Long Worm/Dragon” in a Danish-Swedish Ambush of his vanguard at the Battle of Svolder, to the horror and grief of his main fleet, made by Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson and Rikard Nordraak (a cousin duo, who also made the National Song of Norway: «Ja vi elsker (dette landet)»/«Yes We Love (This Country)»): ua-cam.com/video/opizaykLEMU/v-deo.html
Interesting! I never knew this story, but it also reminds me of the story of Chinggis Khan who similarly after the betrayal of his father the Chief, became exiled and was eventually enslaved before escaping and gaining a reputation build his power from the ground up. It's interesting, as Philip mentioned often the arc of a hero beginning as somehow weak and pitiable before seizing destiny and strength being a common fictional trope, applied here to Canute and Thorfinn, but these ideas originate from real life as well.
Hahahaha! Best thumbnail ever!
Thanks so much, NL! If it gave you a smile, it makes me happy!
Yo Philip what is your sports of choice? So that we can help you find a manga bass on that sports...
He said in the last video (discussing book 3) that he follows tennis.
@@TheRedHaze3 Yeah people already suggested prince of tennis and baby steps so I was hoping for him to expand other than tennis...gaint step is also a tennis manga.
I play tennis and watch tennis highlights on UA-cam. Other than that, I don't follow any sports closely, but I used to play a lot of different sports, like soccer, football, baseball, and basketball, and was also a marathon runner.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Sports is my favourite genre in anime/manga. It offers a lot of perspectives on an athlete's struggles and psyche. Some more than others. some also create engaging games, showing the entire process of a match play by play. pretty immersive experience once you see the character development within the games. The character work is usually amazing in sports series and often times you can also learn a lot about a sport
I gotta rec some of my faves
Baby Steps is a great tennis series
Ace of Diamond for baseball
Ashita no Joe (a full on character study) and Hajime no ippo for boxing
Ping Pong (psychological character study) for ping pong ofc lol
Ao Ashi for soccer
Run with the Wind for running
Slam dunk for basketball
@@Killerqueen2000 Thanks for the recommendations! I agree that sports stories can be incredibly immersive, and it’s good to know there are some good ones in manga.
Dissapointed with the thumbnail that it should be Askeladd(Merphy face) been stabbed by Canute(Philip face) and being the vinland saga book new royalty fanboy!
Ha ha! I admit I hadn't thought of that one, but it would have been funny!
I forgot!
In the previous volume Anne was helped by three pilgrims. But she had her ring stolen by them at the same time.
Is this considered Anne's sins redeemed and forgiven by God's will?
According to the medieval Christian view, having her ring stolen from her would not be redemption for Anne stealing the ring in the first place. It would be ironic, of course, but real redemption would involve confession and repentance on Anne’s part. Cheers!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
Thank you. I've been wondering😊
@@simaikitagaya7900 My pleasure!
Are you gonna continue the series?
The creator said the series is about to end within 3-4 years
Definitely!
I fell that you would also like to read Spy x Family the manga volume 1-9
Thank you, Tashua!
I really enjoyed Vinland Saga for a long time. Later on though the story kind of devolved for me and I had to take a hiatus
I will see how it goes. For now, I'm very excited to keep reading. Cheers, Kakashi!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy For the most part its really good!
farm time
I’m halfway through book five now.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy It is very much my favorite part of the manga, unfortunatly I don't think it has much to say beyond that part but it'll be interesting to see what you have to say about it
@@Plexsusmax So far, Yukimura is handling the themes involved very well. I continue to be impressed by his storytelling.
Bjorn Ironside?
There was, of course, Edmund Ironside, son of Athelred the Unready, but he was English.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I was wondering if it's the same Bjorn as in the show Vikings who was the son of Ragnar Lothbrok. I'm not sure how historically accurate the show was when it comes to the bloodlines of the Vikings of Norway though. I know Ragnar Lothbrok's first son was Ivar and his second wife was Lagertha but the show depicts Lagertha as his first wife instead of his second.
@@currangill430 I have seen a few episodes from season one, and it’s fair to say that they took liberties on the show, so I’d say in general don’t rely on it for accuracy.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Is this more historically accurate? I read only the first chapter YEARS AGO. I think I remember liking it. I think I didn't continue because I read that the author hasn't written much at all and then he went on a hititus which gave me Berserk vibes 🤣
@@currangill430 It’s not entirely faithful to history, and there’s the sort of hyperbole you expect in manga, but it’s evident that Yukimura steeped himself in the history, culture, and stories of the Vikings.
That maybe the best Thumbnail you've done yet. Definitely in your top 3 💚😂🤌💯
Kinda looks like Guy Fieri 😂
Ha ha! Thanks, Johan! I agree that it's in my top 3, and probably number one.
is it time for one piece now? 🤩
Ha ha! Not quite yet, but someday. I’ll finish Vinland Saga before trying other manga. All the best!
The more I watch Philip read Vinland Saga, the more I feel "Get this man to read One Piece now!" 😂 Honestly, with how observant of a reader he is, One Piece is like the perfect story! There is so much to read into, to think about and to enjoy! 1000+ chapters of pure high, epic fantasy!
This constant wonder about the fact that a visual medium is able to tell a story and that a panel without words is able to express very complex events and emotions is starting to grate on me big time. Also, why is it a surprise that Yukimura knows his source material? Why would he not do his homework if he wants to use a certain story? Visual artists don't read, don't do any research? Stopped watching after maybe 15 minutes. Bookpeople discussing visual stuff is clearly not working for me.
I would call it appreciation rather than wonder.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Obviously we have different ideas about appreciation.
With our different life experiences, cultures, vocations, and any number of other factors, we are bound to have different ways of appreciating and expressing our appreciation. That, for me, is one beautiful thing about BookTube - there are such great opportunities to hear other people’s expressions of appreciation.
@@DoUnicornsRead If I am understanding correctly: Philip hasn't had much experience, if any, with manga before this and is discovering it and its qualities for the first time. Will you be upset with your son or daughter when they are excited about discovering fantastic qualities about things you took for a given? (Apologies, Phillip, I don't mean to say you are a child!)
I also didn't take his comments about Yuki being studied on the history as an opine on being surprised a manga artist could do it, but rather that a historical fiction has paid as close attention to it as it has, in general. There are plenty of highly inaccurate, full of inconsistency historical fiction out there. It was probably a breath of fresh air to see a historical fiction that obviously did its homework.
Your comment was rather cynical and rude.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy You well know, Philip, that most of the time I absolutly love your very charming and exuberant variety of appreciation. Unfortunately, in this case it's really not working for me, up to the piont that I don't even seem to recognise it as such. So I'm afraid, Philip, that you will have to accept that I'm giving this particular opportunity to hear you express your appreciation a miss.