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Another pretty well made & capable unit it seems. Thanks Steve 👍
Regarding the temperature inaccuracy, I had the same issue with my brand new 861DW, but after going through calibration procedure a few times, it's now pretty much accurate and reliable.
what is the procedure
@@MrOrangeman18 set the temperature at 300 degree C and airflow at 50, press CH1 and CH3 altogether and the unit shows CAL sign. Measure the temperature with a K-type thermocouple and enter the the actual reading figure on your thermometer using temperature up/down keys (airflow up/down keys for moving digits from left to right). Once you're done, press CH1 key.
Search. 861DW calibration on UA-cam.
I think Louis Rossman had the same flickering issue and sent over a unit to Dave to investigate, it would be worthwhile to see a video on that!
I am really enjoying these types of videos 👍
Thanks 👌
350°C output at 500°C setting is a rather large gap imo. 50°C wouldn’t bother me too but much 150°C doesn’t give me much confidence.
Thank you 🙏 for yet another very interesting review!
I tried measuring a few different ways, but still got nowhere near 500C. Oddly, the AC current waveform shows that the heater isn't at 100% so likely a calibration or firmware issue.
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Thanks!
I get the same light flickering issue on the 861DW, but it's down to the type of light. Those high power factor ones that have minimal input capacitance and basic output current regulation are the most susceptible to cycle-by-cycle mains voltage drops. Maybe capacitive dropper supplies too, though I don't use them. My DIY constant current driver for the desk light, and larger switchmode supplies are unaffected.
Great review!! I agree the Best is really hard to beat. I love mine and it works great.
Also you can calibrate your machine if the temperatures are off on the quick to make the temperatures outputs more accurate.
Video on how to calibrate:
ua-cam.com/video/f_GKo_4EZhQ/v-deo.html
I'd love to see your opinion on the Atten station that Rossmann reviewed recently. Great video as always!
I'll have a look and see if we can get it over here. Thanks for the comment
You can order directly from Atten.eu or from AliExpress. The price is somewhere between the Best and Quick 861DW prices. It does look like Atten have changed a few bits since Rossman's video came out which has bumped the price by £10-20 (but some of that could be the fluctuating shipping costs)
@@sdgelectronics Look forward to hearing your thoughts after a look inside one of those units.
@@sdgelectronics Is Quick a chinese brand?
@@nilomyki Yes, it is a chinese brand.
Can you measure above 350 degrees from other stations with that thermocouple? I’ve seen issues with thermocouples not being about to read above certain temperatures, so suspect that the issue is the thermocouple reading not the heating.
It should be good to over 1000C. Just gave it a test and it's OK on the BST-863. Good point though, thanks 👍
On my 861x the nozzles do have a tiny tab that goes into the end of the heater. Have a closer looks, yours is possibly the same. Hard to see at first.
I want to buy the BEST BST 863 but I don’t know if it has a calibration mode . Does somebody know ?
Would like to see someone review the Quick TR1300A and the YIHUA 993DM both are 1300w units, was going to buy the TR1300A but the spec says only 70lpm air flow, but it has the exact same air pump as 861x you just reviewed, never seen anything on the 993DM unit
Another Atten that I have not yet seen comprehensively reviewed is the GT-8102, which borrows more of its design from the JBC JTSE. The cheapest I've ever seen one is maybe around $400 to $560 USD, but it appears to be rated at 1000W and with a more compact form factor handle.
The reason your lab lights are flickering is that the unit your using is missing a shiny efi suppressor.
Its normally mounted on the back of the unit under the cover.
Just like my UYUE 8586 but x1000 better. :) Nice review. BEST BST-863 looks like a nice upgrade for me.
Отлично! Спасибо за информацию.
I just ordered a BST863 myself, but it does not heat up when I take it out of the holder. I assume the magnetic sensor in the handle is faulty? It just shows it is permanent in sleeping mode, whether it is in the holder or not.
Indeed sounds like the sensor isn't working. The base should be strongly magnetic where the handpiece sits. Also it's worth noting that if it's powered up and the handpiece isn't in the stand, it won't let you use it at all (just stays in sleep)
Make sure the handle is set in the base before u switch on the unit if its out of it or not sitting all the way in and u turn it on it will not work
And what about temperature readings calibration?!
Thanks, Steve. Maybe it has an adjustment inside for the heat?
I saw on another video the 861DW has a cal menu, but it doesn't help the error which occurs due to the airflow speed.
@@sdgelectronics I like the Atten ST-862D better anyway. It is the one I'll buy when I need a new hot-air station. It would be nice to see inside it if you ever get the chance before I buy one.
It's a nuce Fluke meter over there. Can you do a review of that one. I can't find any on YT.
Thanks, just discovered your channel and I'll start following you!
Cannot remember if I posted this comment already (maybe it's in an approval queue?) or whether I didn't - or got lost in the Ethernet. Thanks for the review. I am choosing between Quick 861DW and 861DE. The only difference is the airflow (120L/m vs 200L/m) and the power (1000W vs 1200W). Yes, the spinning up and down of the station is annoying but besides that I wouldn't mind a little more juice for using with larger BGA nozzles. My only concern is: the DE version - as the X version - only goes down to 6L/m as a minimum. Do you see that as an issue for working on smaller pieces? I think it should be fine but it'd be great to have feedback from an owner of a similarly specc'd machine!
Re. the 150 degrees inaccuracy at 500 degrees, well, I hope it's a calibration/FW/unit issue as I am not sure I would be happy to pay for a machine that doesn't do what it says on the tin. That said, when do you use 500 degrees? :)
I think you'd be OK with the 6 l/m minimum. Once you add a nozzle, the air flow will drop anyway
@@sdgelectronics thank you, really much appreciated!! And please keep up the good job with your videos!
I'm the exact same boat OP. What did you decide to go for?
@@wdunn06 I went for the DE model and I am happy with it. Only "issue" is the cooling process when you put it back on the holder. The DE also goes up to 500 degrees no problems. I've reviewed the DE on my channel - I hope SDG doesn't mind if I mention that here :)
The link supplied for the 861dw is that genuine as too many clone copies about. Difficult to find a original seller
Doesn't the station include a wrench for securing the nozzle to a locking detent on the wand? The number of models are quite confusing and there no comprehensive information comparing their capabilities.
Where du you come from? I´m from Germany and I have worry because we have a grid voltage of AC 230V, Inside the device are installed two 200V Capacitors. Devices for Europa have 450V Capacitors. Maby not good.
Is it better to send it back?
It shouldn't be an issue. Both are balanced and in series, so 400V rating overall. A little bit closer than I'd like though
I mentioned the Yihua 992DA. I use that. it seems decent. not dedicated but decent
Excellent topic coverage. 👍 After all these reviews, I'm still considering the Yihua 952D+. Expensive to get into Canada though. Shipping is almost cost of the hardware - from those that will actually ship it here
Hello
Have you heard of the 881D?
I own one.
Have you Ever had testet the Power consumption on the Plug? 1300 Watt?
There are many Fake Device on the Planet, Banggood too
The Devive shows 500°C but it commes only 240°C on the nozzle.
BST-863 fanboy here 😀 Honestly what this Quick can do that BEST can't?
Airflow is the only thing, but 200lpm is almost pointless unless used on a bga rig
So, what your best hot air station ?
The Best seems to be the most used. Quick heat up and cool down.
Strange that the bl motor drivers are so beefy and with such big heatsink. Usually speed controllers does not use any heatsinking at all for small motors.
If the numbers on the motor are to be believed, it's a 70W motor! 😮
Maybe it's switching the heater randomly and not at the zero crossing and causes big transients
Update will be published tomorrow regarding the switching
1.3kW is all of 5A on the UK's nominally-230V-but-really-240V-or-more mains supply, and I wouldn't expect that to affect the mains voltage to such an extent that it's visible in the lighting (even connected to the same socket), considering UK outlets are rated for 13A and are typically on 32A circuits.
I regularly switch 2kW heating loads and have never seen any effects with the lights (on the same outlet, circuit, or otherwise).
The only time I tend to see brief dimming of lights is when inductive loads switch on or off, though I guess there could be an inductive effect happening here? :S
I shall await the update video with interest! :)
ATTEN St-862D is best value in my book
How many do you own Steve?
P.s. are the best nozzles on the best best?
The type that came with this feel very cheap. The generic ones you can buy are more than adequate
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You should check out the newer quick hot air machine TR1100, not seen any reviews yet. kaisertech.co.uk/quick-tr1100-hot-air-station
It’s cheaper as well
Funny that they copy the metcal so closely, its a mains supply, anything with enough power would work.
Quick 881dw or atten 862d
I don't understand why people don't buy the Quick TR1300 it looks far more nicer better built quality and strong metal housing.
Great review yes very poor for the money and unsafe as standards go
not worth the dough.
It's definitely a bit pricey when there are professional brands with pricing not much higher and which meet electrical safety
@@woopsserg Calling the review a piece of crap is a bit harsh in my opinion.