Can they fix Cena? Yes. Will they fix Cena? NO! Unfortunately the real reason why Cena will never turn heel (therefore do something new, fresh and interesting) is a combination of merchandise sales, make-a-wish, Mr. I Heart the Troops and Breast Cancer ambassador (which imo is ridiculous, it should be a diva, but ya know, Cena has to be the face of everything). The WWE won't turn Cena because they are too scared, too scared of change, they don't take risks anymore, Cena is reliable, does whatever the WWE wants him too and is a good little yes man. Have you seen when Cena does press conferences and such? He sounds more like a company CEO or a politician than a wrestler. The only and i mean ONLY way Cena will ever turn heel is if new people are chosen to take over his ambassador roles, his make-a-wish requests decline drastically and his merchandise sales drop sharply too. Basically, the planets will have to align just right for a Cena heel turn.
What you dudes are missing is part of what you just said. Yea,he sounds A LOT like a CEO/corporate man. BECAUSE THATS HIS ENDGAME.. he's gonna be the next HHH: headliner turned executive. Unlike H, he can't just marry into the ruling class, he's gotta pave the way for himself. how do you do that? MARKETABILITY. showing how good he is at towing the company line, being the sort of product the execs like to see. mark my fucking words, John Cena's carreer will not end with retirement, it will end with him in an $5,000 suit.
It should be noted that Hulk Hogan never turned heel in WWF/E it took going to WCW and Eric Bischoff to allow Hogan the freedom to turn heel. When Hollywood Hogan came back to WWE it took Vince less then a year to turn him back to the Red and Yellow Hulk Hogan and he's been a face ever since, Cena under Vince and WWE will never turn heel and will never be a different character. For Cena to change he literally has to quit/leave WWE and go to TNA, RoH, NJPW etc and have their promoter/booker give him the freedom to turn heel. Again Vince never took that risk with Hogan it was Bischoff who did. So I agree with Tyrone there is no fixing Cena in the World of WWE. For Cena to change character he has to leave and go elsewhere like Hogan did.
Yes which is why I said it took Hogan leaving for WCW and Bischoff listening to Hogan and agreeing with Hulk that it would be best for his character. I believe Cena is in the same situation Hogan was in. And I think like Hogan before him Cena will have to go elsewhere and turn heel with a different Promotion
Whether it's a fix or not, i'm uncertain, but I think a John Cena heel turn could be fairly simply. He wouldn't have to use Thuganomics or go into expletive laced rants. Just say something like: I've busted my hump for 13 years here trying to encourage you all to be and do your best and never give up despite any odds...and all you do is boo me night in and night out and tell me how much I s***. I'm sick of it and I'm sick of all of you. No more pandering to all you ingrates. From now on, I fight for me..." That, and change the costuming, maybe to a "plain" t-shirt and jeans.
+J. Rossi Noooo! No, no, no, no, wait! You're on the right track, but we've seen 238 heel turns with the same "you're all hypocrites, I'm underappreciated, you're a bunch of ingrates, boo-hoo" excuse.
LFPS0311 Well, the boo-hoo crying element need not be worked in. Yes, we've seen it, but by the same token a lot of people can relate to the feeling that they were "stabbed in the back" as it were. Anger is a universal reaction to such things.
Funny thing is even though Cena is one of my favorite wrestlers, his "Thugonomics" phase. Dude had awesome mic skills, charisma was OP, and was just straight up entertaining.
+Dilan Abdulla Because he is past the point of a heel turn helping. There is no way to turn him heel (short of setting fire to a pile of puppies) that would make him a legit heel. Because the wrestling fans (not the little kids who make up his core following) want him heel too much. On top of that, WWE aren't going to lose that little kid money by making John Q Cena a villain.
+Leumas Nitram What about turn him heel by making him an arrogant prick about how much money he generates n shit, n how he's the face, could be pretty fun
+JLF2012 x The best thing that could probably happen in a Cena=heel scenario would be along the lines of heel Jeff Hardy. He's tired of the boos and people not appreciating his work, and we promote him as a quiet/intense heel whose had it with the crowd
I don't watch WWE anymore, but I would think he's been in need of turning heel for a while now. If he does a good enough job turning heel fans will love him, like Stone Cold and The Rock back in the day.
I cant say that I am a wrestling mainac or something but I think that the whole system needs to change in the order to not have another Hogan or Cena. I am talking about a system where a individual is having his character and would simply talk shit and fight a wrestler that is standing in his way. No good guy vs bad guy and such things. They would be unique and the fans would like to see something fresh.
Tyrone Magnus i think he wants to change his act and become heel to start over and build himself up again and become likeable and taken more serious if he becomes a heel but WWE wont let him because all the little kids would be heart broken that their favorite wrestler is a bad guy in the WWE like a super hero turning into a villain or like a jedi turning into a sith
No they cant fix Cena because there is nothing wrong or broken with cena he is good as he is cena for the wwe world heavyweight champion at Royal Rumble Lets go cena Lets go cena Lets go cena Lets go cena The new wwe world heavyweight champion
I like John Cena on the mic, I like him as a person, I can't fucking stand his character. It's just the same thing over and over and over and over and OVER again, and until I realized that, I fucking loved that dude. He Picks a fight, kicks out at 2 three or four times, and picks him up on his shoulders, hits the AA, 1, 2, 3. Match over. Cena wins. Personally, I think one godly heel turn could really change his character and fix everything. They have to make it a BIG one, and they have to stick with it. It will take some time, but I think it can be done.
I don't think Cena would be able to get fixed unless the kids grow tired of him or he leaves. It has to be a risky move. But turning him heel will also not get you the results you're looking for. It's gotten to a point where he's practically irreplaceable.
If only Tyrone knew that another guy would be even more hated then Cena after this. I’m not even going to bother saying his name. Brings back too many painful memories.
I think he can be fixed. The problem is that it would take at least a year of absence and a better creative team to bring him back. The WWE will never do what needs to be done to fix his stagnation but he can be fixed no matter how long they waste him because a year is a long enough time to reboot anyone. John is just a symptom of the problem with the WWE and until the WWE is fixed there will be no fixing John Cena.
there aint no way in hell john cena can be fixed. he is 38 and close to retiring. The only way it could fixed is if they have him wrestlin up to age 50 like the undertaker or have him wrestlin up to 56 like sting did a few months ago. i wonder at that age, will we be bald. im just sayin, he has a big ass bald spot at the back of his head.
Aye Tyrone what if you get so big here on UA-cam that you end up getting a special guest appearance on WWE? Would that be something you'd be willing to campaign for? If given the opportunity to be in a WWE wrestling match, which wrestler could u see yourself wrestling & beating in a wrestling match either one on one or in a tag team wrestling match?
Here's how you do a John Cena heel turn. Put him behind someone and don't let him speak. That's it. That's all. Put him behind someone you already hate like The Authority or the MexAmericans or Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman. And just let him stand behind them, let them do all the talking, and he does all the usual heel tricks (beating up faces, interfering on behalf of heels, etc) and one of two things will happen: either after some time, the fans (even the ones who hated him) will beg for him to come out from behind the shadows, remind himself that he is a (undeserving) 15-time World Champion and come back to being a face, or he will retire as a heel. Either way, I'm not watching wrestling again until he's gone or a full fledged black man is the WWE Champion. I'll wait.
Hulk Hogan says that he is ready to fight again. He said he wanted to fight stone cold for his very LAST match, i don't see austin wrestling again so put him against cena. They could easily have cena turn on him and turn heel. Kinda like apprentice turning on mentor and it would change wwe forever kinda like hogan's heel turn. It would also give cena the respect of the fans back. He'd probably get a bigger pop than he ever did as a face.
well there's no one better besides some older ones if others had his drive then it be different I like that he speaks his mind like few others sting understaker big show
The way I see it is that he'll turn heel until his career begins to come to an end then he'll ride into the sunset as the 25x WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION LOL
Growing up,John Cena was one of my favourtie wrestlers. But now that I look back at it, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND why people hate him. He has been the face of the company for too long and maybe it should have been Randy Orton who became face of the WWE. Regardless, we can not deny that despite Cena's reign being not exactly ideal, he is in fact a great wrestler and has been a huge work horse for the company. I am glad they are phasing him out now and booking for the next generation of super stars but to fix Cena, I think the heel turn has to be subtle and a fade away from him as the company's representative.
+ArcanicFire Ehh people say Cenaa is the hardest working superstar yet Dolph is working harder than Cena does and you can tell in his in ring performance compared to Cena but yeah you can say Cena is a work horse.
Honestly, no joke...2015 was a good year for Cena. Since Wrestlemania he has been having great match after great match. The US Open Challenge was a good booking move on WWE, adding a small surprise every night. Plus the new moves he's doing are refreshing to see (except the springboard stunner, bcuz it's shit). With the exception of just maybe Rusev, he hasn't really buried anybody. Ziggler, Cesaro, Kevin Owens and Rollins all came out looking strong after their Cena matches. And rumors says he's taking a break by the end of this year, so everyone's happy. Cenation fans got to see a great year of Cena, while everyone else can breathe a sigh of relief that we wont hear [doo doo-doo dooooo] for a few months. sidenote: If I hear JBL say 'big match John' one more time, ill stab a kitten
They could make him into a heel and change his attire (like the wrestle mania package) don't make him heel since he's the only real face they have at the moment (and realistically they won't change him for anyone else yet) but change how he fights stop the 5 moves of doom and get him to look like an actual fighter so he's entertaining also he can loose cleanly WWE!
Stone cold has said in a podcast that turning Cena heel is bad for business because he is the highest merch cellar.Wwe needs to have another highest merch cellar so then we need to wait.I am also the guy who wants Cena heel but we need to wait.
The only way I can see john cena fixed is if he gets another title match and wins he needs turn him heel. Cena vs roman reigns next year but cena is a heel against him that's only way you fix cena now he loses to rusev by his leg being under the ropes but rusev wins cena gets so pissed he power bombs the ref and dominates rusev with the belt making him bleed and takes the title. He walks up the ramp pulls out his hanky that says hustle,loyalty, and respect rips it and throws it on the ground while he points 2 middle fingers in the air to the crowd. Best scenario to turn him heel please wwe make it happen!
there is a way to fix him, and without turning him heel. it is so simple but it will take a build up. set up a lumberjack match months ahead. with john cena and the champion. than through the locker room show the animosity towards cena slowly build as he some how magically wins every match leading up to the the lumberjack match. then while the match finally happen the lumberjacks destroy cena during and after the match showing the locker room hates him. him being "injured" he takes a break for 3 months. while that interviews are being denied by cena. then on his return match he walks out with no music and heads straight to the ring. he uses more aggressive moves instead of his old ones and only uses the AA after he has already beat his opponent. this will be his persona day in and day out. in interviews he will show his hate for the locker room that turned their back on him and betrayed him. but thats my opinion
if He takes 6 months off then comes back having changed his theme song to canibus 2nd round knockout or a hard rock song and copied the arch of South Paw movie posing as he trained in boxing. wearing Boxing shorts and new moves like mostly boxing hands similar to 3:16. wearing a hoodie and hand wraps.
The difference between Hogan and Cena is that Hogan's sells were dropping and he was becoming irrelevant. John Cena is still mainstream because people, you yourself as one, still talk about him whether it is in hate or love.
Rena got his ass handed to him at MSG for Survivor Seried with The Rock. Later that night, turned out the number one merchandise seller......the fruity pebble guy. I think its across the board, not just Cena himself
I think that ship sailed a long time ago and it's too late to fix Cena. If they had acted earlier then sure they could have fixed hin but you can't just erase the last decade. Even if he were to turn heel, I wouldn't be buying it. And with the quality of WWE writing nowadays, even if it was possible, I don't think these guys creating the storylines could pull it off.
There was a plan i heard that cena was going to turn heel and cena was like fuck yea he made a soundtrack and all the shit and then it got canceld by vince i think but maybe summerslam 2015 hhh turns on seth and cena joins authorithy
Robert Tennyson could be cause even the wwe knows that a lot of ppl will be pissed off after he wins the title and the risk is high that a lot will cancel their network.its all about money.its the only way to hurt the wwe
i think he needs a hole new character maybe a name change the only way they could do it is if they kept him off screen for a few years and don't even mention his existence in the wwe. but as you said the damage has been done hes got to be nearing his 40s hes only got 8 more years in ring time left. they put there bodies threw shit every night its very rare wrestlers still wrestle full time past the age of 45 even then they will keep him to be a part timer for the big ppvs
agreed thuganomics was the best Cena without a doubt i dont hate the new Cena im more indifferent towards him hes more like the guy who does charaities for them like the make a wish being the one person whos done the most so i guess him doing that makes it so i cant really dislike the character he plays
Tyrone I Feel What Your Saying But Like Blitz Said There Is No Cena 2.0. Look At The Lengths they have gone with cena. Even if Reigns is at the top for 8 years it wont compare to cena's reigns of terror. Vince is pushing 70 won't be running the company at 80 years old and HHH is much more in touch with what we want then vince
wwe's trian of though :i think we should give one of the other superstars who has never been champion before a go on the wwe title :really :no lets just give it to cena again coz i know the fans aint getting sick and tired of it
maybe they cold fix the cena character by turbina him heel making him say he was kidding and making fin of everyone of us all this time, but they never will...
I think it's possible for WWE to fix Cena but they have to come up with something so great that it wipes away all the horrible years of garbage we had to sit through. I am with you on the fact Cena as the doctor of thuganomics was a good gimmick but once he changed to this old and stale gimmick fans just got annoyed and other fans don't understand why so many fans hate him. Well the reasons are he's been a face for way too long. No great legendary and hall of famer has ever been a face for as many years as him. His mic skills are garbage for example the feud with Rock. He kept saying the same thing over and over and over again while Rock had to carry the entire feud when it came to the mic. It was pathetic and a sad excuse for the so called face and personally for me the match was boring as hell too. Another example at how he failed in promos is how he got out staged by R-Truth for the 2011 Capital Punishment promo. R-Truth was so much better on the mic than Cena was. Cena is a hypocrite who can't respect any superstars and then turns around and likes to talk about respect like he knows what respect is. Another reason is Cena should not have been champion as many times and I say this because most of his matches he won were horrible victories for example The Miz Vs. Cena at the ppv Over the Limit 2011. How can one person get there a$$ beat so badly by two people and not only that they barely hit their opponent and yet make their opponent say I quit in a few seconds. That was the match at Over the limit 2011 and it was the worse ending to a match.
+WWMK05 I agree with everything you. John Cena just keeps making things worse and even unwatchable. I don't know why WWE wants to make him "Immortal". I think WWE is afraid of turning John Cena heel because they don't want little kids to cry seeing their so called "hero" turning bad, but it something that really needs to happen.
if they are gonna let cena's chracter retire let it pleas be trough injury let lesnar suplex him until he's broken or orton punt him in the skull hell let reings or rollins even end his career that is what the fans want to see that is what i want to see
I think the person behind the John Cena character has enough of it and is mad at the boos, and he just want to be something new/fresh character but a heel one... but I think Vince doesn't allow him. They could have done in the Nexus storyline but he buried 'them' and I was believing that Kane when he returned at the Slammy Award 2011, Kane would make Cena heel but nope he beat Kane and then the Bray Wyat vs Cena situation, I always thought they over-rushed this Bray Wyatt vs John Cena rivalry. My answer is most part 'no' but it could be a 'maybe' but I don't think so except... except if WWE can create a group like NWO.
John Cena does need to change. But Tyrone i think it aint cenas fault for who he is today. I heard when Cena was talking to Chris Jericho, Cena said he did wanted to change but he couldn't because Mr. McMahon didnt want him to. I think Cena can change somebody just gotta whoop vinces ass and tell him to let cena change. If Vince is doing that i might stop watching wwe
Tyrone I hope you realize when it's all said and done there gonna kiss his ass when he retires and say he is the greatest champion of all time. And when the re release that "top 100 wrestlers of all time" there gonna make Cena number 1 which is sad
I think that WWE are doing this absolutely perfect. I guarantee you that When Cena does turn it will shake the industry... They are working hard to keep it going and the best thing is that it keeps going. John Cena will be a monster heel when he turns but so many people will love it. It's marketing Genius... market him as the Good Guy to the max and then turn him heel to get the other side of the fan base!
I hated his thuganomics character even more than I hate his current one.. so.. if a heel turn means he goes back to thuganomics than that's even worse in my eyes.. he needs a total character revamp, one where he doesn't dress, act or talk like a wigger. but that said I think hes like that in real life anyway.. the only way john cena can be fixed is for him to leave the wwe completely.
Make him heal and make him actually push around let's say sin cara and kalisto he would chair him in the face so john says yo guys chill I did something to help you (mayby luchas had a tag champion ship Mach against real amirica)
John Cena and WWE forgot that they play characters. And John wants his character and "real" self to be one in the same. That's why I don't like wrestlers to use their real names, because then the entertainment gets lost and we get stuck with this walk shit.
Have any of you thought that if reigns gets over as a face they can turn cena heel. They can't make him heel if the kids don't have anyone to idealize. Think about it would be bad business
Can they fix Cena? Yes. Will they fix Cena? NO!
Unfortunately the real reason why Cena will never turn heel (therefore do something new, fresh and interesting) is a combination of merchandise sales, make-a-wish, Mr. I Heart the Troops and Breast Cancer ambassador (which imo is ridiculous, it should be a diva, but ya know, Cena has to be the face of everything). The WWE won't turn Cena because they are too scared, too scared of change, they don't take risks anymore, Cena is reliable, does whatever the WWE wants him too and is a good little yes man. Have you seen when Cena does press conferences and such? He sounds more like a company CEO or a politician than a wrestler. The only and i mean ONLY way Cena will ever turn heel is if new people are chosen to take over his ambassador roles, his make-a-wish requests decline drastically and his merchandise sales drop sharply too. Basically, the planets will have to align just right for a Cena heel turn.
Well said.
Fans have deal with it.
I don't want a heel turn anymore I just want Cena out of the spotlight.
What you dudes are missing is part of what you just said. Yea,he sounds A LOT like a CEO/corporate man. BECAUSE THATS HIS ENDGAME..
he's gonna be the next HHH: headliner turned executive. Unlike H, he can't just marry into the ruling class, he's gotta pave the way for himself. how do you do that?
MARKETABILITY. showing how good he is at towing the company line, being the sort of product the execs like to see. mark my fucking words, John Cena's carreer will not end with retirement, it will end with him in an $5,000 suit.
Wasn't Punk heel and everybody was loving him?
TheStr0ke The planets align every year mate... just so you know haha
I don't think Cena needs a heel turn, but he needs a character change, like step away from all the colors and just be a more masculine character
It should be noted that Hulk Hogan never turned heel in WWF/E it took going to WCW and Eric Bischoff to allow Hogan the freedom to turn heel. When Hollywood Hogan came back to WWE it took Vince less then a year to turn him back to the Red and Yellow Hulk Hogan and he's been a face ever since, Cena under Vince and WWE will never turn heel and will never be a different character. For Cena to change he literally has to quit/leave WWE and go to TNA, RoH, NJPW etc and have their promoter/booker give him the freedom to turn heel. Again Vince never took that risk with Hogan it was Bischoff who did. So I agree with Tyrone there is no fixing Cena in the World of WWE. For Cena to change character he has to leave and go elsewhere like Hogan did.
Yes which is why I said it took Hogan leaving for WCW and Bischoff listening to Hogan and agreeing with Hulk that it would be best for his character. I believe Cena is in the same situation Hogan was in. And I think like Hogan before him Cena will have to go elsewhere and turn heel with a different Promotion
WE NEED A DAMN HEEL CENA!!!! He Hasn't been a heel since between 2002 and 2005
I think for cena to turn heel it has to be a slow process, there needs to be someone or something that causes him to turn and it has to feel organic.
Whether it's a fix or not, i'm uncertain, but I think a John Cena heel turn could be fairly simply. He wouldn't have to use Thuganomics or go into expletive laced rants. Just say something like: I've busted my hump for 13 years here trying to encourage you all to be and do your best and never give up despite any odds...and all you do is boo me night in and night out and tell me how much I s***. I'm sick of it and I'm sick of all of you. No more pandering to all you ingrates. From now on, I fight for me..."
That, and change the costuming, maybe to a "plain" t-shirt and jeans.
I just tried to visualise that happening in my head and it looked awesome
J. Rossi Something like this could work for him and if WWE can make him an anti hero like turn it could make him more believable
+SuperGomez59 Like they did with Sting in WCW?
+J. Rossi Noooo! No, no, no, no, wait! You're on the right track, but we've seen 238 heel turns with the same "you're all hypocrites, I'm underappreciated, you're a bunch of ingrates, boo-hoo" excuse.
LFPS0311 Well, the boo-hoo crying element need not be worked in. Yes, we've seen it, but by the same token a lot of people can relate to the feeling that they were "stabbed in the back" as it were. Anger is a universal reaction to such things.
Funny thing is even though Cena is one of my favorite wrestlers, his "Thugonomics" phase. Dude had awesome mic skills, charisma was OP, and was just straight up entertaining.
if john cena turns heel..... the wwe is saved
+Dilan Abdulla False
+Tyrone Magnus why?
+Dilan Abdulla Because he is past the point of a heel turn helping. There is no way to turn him heel (short of setting fire to a pile of puppies) that would make him a legit heel. Because the wrestling fans (not the little kids who make up his core following) want him heel too much. On top of that, WWE aren't going to lose that little kid money by making John Q Cena a villain.
+Leumas Nitram What about turn him heel by making him an arrogant prick about how much money he generates n shit, n how he's the face, could be pretty fun
+JLF2012 x The best thing that could probably happen in a Cena=heel scenario would be along the lines of heel Jeff Hardy. He's tired of the boos and people not appreciating his work, and we promote him as a quiet/intense heel whose had it with the crowd
john cena is best when he is heel
Dude. He's not a bad wrestler. Just his character.
***** And that's why he has match of the year on raw.
sainandan anime No, he's never had an actual MOTY. I'm saying that his match with Cesaro is widely regarded as one.
I don't watch WWE anymore, but I would think he's been in need of turning heel for a while now. If he does a good enough job turning heel fans will love him, like Stone Cold and The Rock back in the day.
You can't fix stupid.
See the title of the video. WWE not him stupid
You are so Right. Amen.
I cant say that I am a wrestling mainac or something but I think that the whole system needs to change in the order to not have another Hogan or Cena. I am talking about a system where a individual is having his character and would simply talk shit and fight a wrestler that is standing in his way. No good guy vs bad guy and such things. They would be unique and the fans would like to see something fresh.
Tyrone Magnus i think he wants to change his act and become heel to start over and build himself up again and become likeable and taken more serious if he becomes a heel but WWE wont let him because all the little kids would be heart broken that their favorite wrestler is a bad guy in the WWE like a super hero turning into a villain or like a jedi turning into a sith
+GREENnWHITE1000 no I'm not
+GREENnWHITE1000 I didn't say in skill I just said in character they stayed the same.
No they cant fix Cena because there is nothing wrong or broken with cena he is good as he is cena for the wwe world heavyweight champion at Royal Rumble
Lets go cena Lets go cena Lets go cena Lets go cena
The new wwe world heavyweight champion
Well Vince needs fixing before anybody. Fix Vince = better WWE.
Hulk Hogan had that choice to change because of the era they were in at the time. Cena literally has no choice to change his character
I like John Cena on the mic, I like him as a person, I can't fucking stand his character. It's just the same thing over and over and over and over and OVER again, and until I realized that, I fucking loved that dude. He Picks a fight, kicks out at 2 three or four times, and picks him up on his shoulders, hits the AA, 1, 2, 3. Match over. Cena wins. Personally, I think one godly heel turn could really change his character and fix everything. They have to make it a BIG one, and they have to stick with it. It will take some time, but I think it can be done.
John Cena Heel Turn is the lochness monster of the WWE. Everyone wants to believe that it could exist but in reality it will never be witnessed
the moment where cena began to piss me off, was when he made HBK tap out at wrestlemania. then I realized what damage Cena will bring to WWE
I don't think Cena would be able to get fixed unless the kids grow tired of him or he leaves. It has to be a risky move. But turning him heel will also not get you the results you're looking for. It's gotten to a point where he's practically irreplaceable.
It's too late to fix that guy
The thumbnail says it all.
If WWE really wanted to fix John Cena, they would've already done it a Lon time ago. Now it's late.
If only Tyrone knew that another guy would be even more hated then Cena after this. I’m not even going to bother saying his name. Brings back too many painful memories.
I think he can be fixed. The problem is that it would take at least a year of absence and a better creative team to bring him back. The WWE will never do what needs to be done to fix his stagnation but he can be fixed no matter how long they waste him because a year is a long enough time to reboot anyone. John is just a symptom of the problem with the WWE and until the WWE is fixed there will be no fixing John Cena.
there aint no way in hell john cena can be fixed. he is 38 and close to retiring. The only way it could fixed is if they have him wrestlin up to age 50 like the undertaker or have him wrestlin up to 56 like sting did a few months ago. i wonder at that age, will we be bald. im just sayin, he has a big ass bald spot at the back of his head.
Aye Tyrone what if you get so big here on UA-cam that you end up getting a special guest appearance on WWE? Would that be something you'd be willing to campaign for? If given the opportunity to be in a WWE wrestling match, which wrestler could u see yourself wrestling & beating in a wrestling match either one on one or in a tag team wrestling match?
You damn right!
You are right on all you said bro
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agreed
I understand why Tyrone hates the character of John Cena
Here's how you do a John Cena heel turn. Put him behind someone and don't let him speak. That's it. That's all. Put him behind someone you already hate like The Authority or the MexAmericans or Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman. And just let him stand behind them, let them do all the talking, and he does all the usual heel tricks (beating up faces, interfering on behalf of heels, etc) and one of two things will happen: either after some time, the fans (even the ones who hated him) will beg for him to come out from behind the shadows, remind himself that he is a (undeserving) 15-time World Champion and come back to being a face, or he will retire as a heel. Either way, I'm not watching wrestling again until he's gone or a full fledged black man is the WWE Champion. I'll wait.
Hulk Hogan says that he is ready to fight again. He said he wanted to fight stone cold for his very LAST match, i don't see austin wrestling again so put him against cena. They could easily have cena turn on him and turn heel. Kinda like apprentice turning on mentor and it would change wwe forever kinda like hogan's heel turn. It would also give cena the respect of the fans back. He'd probably get a bigger pop than he ever did as a face.
well there's no one better besides some older ones if others had his drive then it be different I like that he speaks his mind like few others sting understaker big show
The way I see it is that he'll turn heel until his career begins to come to an end then he'll ride into the sunset as the 25x WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION LOL
Growing up,John Cena was one of my favourtie wrestlers. But now that I look back at it, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND why people hate him. He has been the face of the company for too long and maybe it should have been Randy Orton who became face of the WWE. Regardless, we can not deny that despite Cena's reign being not exactly ideal, he is in fact a great wrestler and has been a huge work horse for the company. I am glad they are phasing him out now and booking for the next generation of super stars but to fix Cena, I think the heel turn has to be subtle and a fade away from him as the company's representative.
+ArcanicFire Ehh people say Cenaa is the hardest working superstar yet Dolph is working harder than Cena does and you can tell in his in ring performance compared to Cena but yeah you can say Cena is a work horse.
Honestly, no joke...2015 was a good year for Cena. Since Wrestlemania he has been having great match after great match. The US Open Challenge was a good booking move on WWE, adding a small surprise every night. Plus the new moves he's doing are refreshing to see (except the springboard stunner, bcuz it's shit). With the exception of just maybe Rusev, he hasn't really buried anybody. Ziggler, Cesaro, Kevin Owens and Rollins all came out looking strong after their Cena matches.
And rumors says he's taking a break by the end of this year, so everyone's happy. Cenation fans got to see a great year of Cena, while everyone else can breathe a sigh of relief that we wont hear [doo doo-doo dooooo] for a few months.
sidenote: If I hear JBL say 'big match John' one more time, ill stab a kitten
They could make him into a heel and change his attire (like the wrestle mania package) don't make him heel since he's the only real face they have at the moment (and realistically they won't change him for anyone else yet) but change how he fights stop the 5 moves of doom and get him to look like an actual fighter so he's entertaining also he can loose cleanly WWE!
What is your opinion on Randy Orton being the face of the WWE?
hey tyrone can you react to " John Cena Thuganomics 2012 "
I grew up with this new john cena and he was my faviorte wrestler now I still like him but I also like AJ and Braun
Cena is the wwe without him theres no wwe
Kendall Gonzaga so what was WWE before John Cena was there. WWE was great before him and will be great after him
agreed
+ecbofficial1 it was wwf
Hammad Ali I know that. Did you not understand my comment
+ecbofficial1 just making a joke, not an all that good one I know
Stone cold has said in a podcast that turning Cena heel is bad for business because he is the highest merch cellar.Wwe needs to have another highest merch cellar so then we need to wait.I am also the guy who wants Cena heel but we need to wait.
The only way I can see john cena fixed is if he gets another title match and wins he needs turn him heel. Cena vs roman reigns next year but cena is a heel against him that's only way you fix cena now he loses to rusev by his leg being under the ropes but rusev wins cena gets so pissed he power bombs the ref and dominates rusev with the belt making him bleed and takes the title. He walks up the ramp pulls out his hanky that says hustle,loyalty, and respect rips it and throws it on the ground while he points 2 middle fingers in the air to the crowd. Best scenario to turn him heel please wwe make it happen!
1:35 Dat snort!
there is a way to fix him, and without turning him heel. it is so simple but it will take a build up. set up a lumberjack match months ahead. with john cena and the champion. than through the locker room show the animosity towards cena slowly build as he some how magically wins every match leading up to the the lumberjack match. then while the match finally happen the lumberjacks destroy cena during and after the match showing the locker room hates him. him being "injured" he takes a break for 3 months. while that interviews are being denied by cena. then on his return match he walks out with no music and heads straight to the ring. he uses more aggressive moves instead of his old ones and only uses the AA after he has already beat his opponent. this will be his persona day in and day out. in interviews he will show his hate for the locker room that turned their back on him and betrayed him. but thats my opinion
if He takes 6 months off then comes back having changed his theme song to canibus 2nd round knockout or a hard rock song and copied the arch of South Paw movie posing as he trained in boxing. wearing Boxing shorts and new moves like mostly boxing hands similar to 3:16. wearing a hoodie and hand wraps.
Humans hate change. Everybody loved Thuga Cena. Everybody loved Hannah. Everybody kinda liked baby bieber. But nobody likes Cenation Cena, Nobody likes Miley, Nobody like Justin Bieber. Humans hate change.
I never liked Bieber and Miley.
The difference between Hogan and Cena is that Hogan's sells were dropping and he was becoming irrelevant. John Cena is still mainstream because people, you yourself as one, still talk about him whether it is in hate or love.
Maybe maybe if cena turned heel, but that's a big maybe
I hope that since Shane o Mac has some form of power now maybe then he will make something of quality now
No
i dont mind him now tbh. but if he makes a BIG heel turn he'll be fixed. or having anew gimmick
Even stone cold turned heel... Hell Mick Foley!!
Rena got his ass handed to him at MSG for Survivor Seried with The Rock. Later that night, turned out the number one merchandise seller......the fruity pebble guy. I think its across the board, not just Cena himself
I think that ship sailed a long time ago and it's too late to fix Cena. If they had acted earlier then sure they could have fixed hin but you can't just erase the last decade. Even if he were to turn heel, I wouldn't be buying it. And with the quality of WWE writing nowadays, even if it was possible, I don't think these guys creating the storylines could pull it off.
I think it can be if he becomes like he was in that video package with the hoodie and training if he becomes that then yeah
There was a plan i heard that cena was going to turn heel and cena was like fuck yea he made a soundtrack and all the shit and then it got canceld by vince i think but maybe summerslam 2015 hhh turns on seth and cena joins authorithy
Vince mcmahon will never make John fuckboy Cena heel forget about it its too late !
I think Cena will turn HELL after Owens Fued or when he goes for 16th World Title
Robert Tennyson could be cause even the wwe knows that a lot of ppl will be pissed off after he wins the title and the risk is high that a lot will cancel their network.its all about money.its the only way to hurt the wwe
i think he needs a hole new character maybe a name change the only way they could do it is if they kept him off screen for a few years and don't even mention his existence in the wwe. but as you said the damage has been done hes got to be nearing his 40s hes only got 8 more years in ring time left. they put there bodies threw shit every night its very rare wrestlers still wrestle full time past the age of 45 even then they will keep him to be a part timer for the big ppvs
Cena is basically a demographic at this point. And I think the powers that eb are content with him being that.
agreed thuganomics was the best Cena without a doubt i dont hate the new Cena im more indifferent towards him hes more like the guy who does charaities for them like the make a wish being the one person whos done the most so i guess him doing that makes it so i cant really dislike the character he plays
Tyrone I Feel What Your Saying But Like Blitz Said There Is No Cena 2.0. Look At The Lengths they have gone with cena. Even if Reigns is at the top for 8 years it wont compare to cena's reigns of terror. Vince is pushing 70 won't be running the company at 80 years old and HHH is much more in touch with what we want then vince
The last time Cena was cool was when he feuded with Edge.
Who can be the next face then? Reigns? Nah he's worse
John cena is one of the main reasons WWE sucks these days compared to the attitude era
Turn The Guy Into A Heel!!! The thug a nomics gimmick was his best gimmick I turned on cena when he had that 1 year reign as champion in 07
wwe's trian of though :i think we should give one of the other superstars who has never been champion before a go on the wwe title :really :no lets just give it to cena again coz i know the fans aint getting sick and tired of it
personally I think they are going to turn him at royal rumble or wrestlmania
Also considering cenas huge merch empire i doubt vince will let him turn heel because theres no money in it...
hey magnus hows it going and keep up the good work
maybe they cold fix the cena character by turbina him heel making him say he was kidding and making fin of everyone of us all this time, but they never will...
At least he isn't Roman Reigns lol. I'm still tired of baby face Cenq
Cena
I got tired of Cena back in 08
Yup, that was the beginning of pg era 😴
no ,they cant cuz he cant wrestle
I think it's possible for WWE to fix Cena but they have to come up with something so great that it wipes away all the horrible years of garbage we had to sit through. I am with you on the fact Cena as the doctor of thuganomics was a good gimmick but once he changed to this old and stale gimmick fans just got annoyed and other fans don't understand why so many fans hate him. Well the reasons are he's been a face for way too long. No great legendary and hall of famer has ever been a face for as many years as him. His mic skills are garbage for example the feud with Rock. He kept saying the same thing over and over and over again while Rock had to carry the entire feud when it came to the mic. It was pathetic and a sad excuse for the so called face and personally for me the match was boring as hell too. Another example at how he failed in promos is how he got out staged by R-Truth for the 2011 Capital Punishment promo. R-Truth was so much better on the mic than Cena was. Cena is a hypocrite who can't respect any superstars and then turns around and likes to talk about respect like he knows what respect is. Another reason is Cena should not have been champion as many times and I say this because most of his matches he won were horrible victories for example The Miz Vs. Cena at the ppv Over the Limit 2011. How can one person get there a$$ beat so badly by two people and not only that they barely hit their opponent and yet make their opponent say I quit in a few seconds. That was the match at Over the limit 2011 and it was the worse ending to a match.
+WWMK05 I agree with everything you. John Cena just keeps making things worse and even unwatchable. I don't know why WWE wants to make him "Immortal". I think WWE is afraid of turning John Cena heel because they don't want little kids to cry seeing their so called "hero" turning bad, but it something that really needs to happen.
Yes, but they need to COMMIT to making his character different. They've never kept him different if the few moments he was different.
if they are gonna let cena's chracter retire let it pleas be trough injury let lesnar suplex him until he's broken or orton punt him in the skull hell let reings or rollins even end his career that is what the fans want to see that is what i want to see
cena for life
I think the person behind the John Cena character has enough of it and is mad at the boos, and he just want to be something new/fresh character but a heel one... but I think Vince doesn't allow him. They could have done in the Nexus storyline but he buried 'them' and I was believing that Kane when he returned at the Slammy Award 2011, Kane would make Cena heel but nope he beat Kane and then the Bray Wyat vs Cena situation, I always thought they over-rushed this Bray Wyatt vs John Cena rivalry. My answer is most part 'no' but it could be a 'maybe' but I don't think so except... except if WWE can create a group like NWO.
John Cena does need to change. But Tyrone i think it aint cenas fault for who he is today. I heard when Cena was talking to Chris Jericho, Cena said he did wanted to change but he couldn't because Mr. McMahon didnt want him to. I think Cena can change somebody just gotta whoop vinces ass and tell him to let cena change. If Vince is doing that i might stop watching wwe
Then
When I was a kid I was watching wrestling during the end of ruthless agresion but now wwe has gotten boring and I'm 14 years old
They can change him, Vinny mac won't allow it tho
Tyrone I hope you realize when it's all said and done there gonna kiss his ass when he retires and say he is the greatest champion of all time. And when the re release that "top 100 wrestlers of all time" there gonna make Cena number 1 which is sad
I think that WWE are doing this absolutely perfect. I guarantee you that When Cena does turn it will shake the industry... They are working hard to keep it going and the best thing is that it keeps going. John Cena will be a monster heel when he turns but so many people will love it. It's marketing Genius... market him as the Good Guy to the max and then turn him heel to get the other side of the fan base!
I hated his thuganomics character even more than I hate his current one.. so.. if a heel turn means he goes back to thuganomics than that's even worse in my eyes.. he needs a total character revamp, one where he doesn't dress, act or talk like a wigger. but that said I think hes like that in real life anyway.. the only way john cena can be fixed is for him to leave the wwe completely.
The reason Cena wont turn Heal is because he is loyal to his cnation
He is mr
Hustle Loyal Respect
So thats why
Make him heal and make him actually push around let's say sin cara and kalisto he would chair him in the face so john says yo guys chill I did something to help you (mayby luchas had a tag champion ship Mach against real amirica)
John Cena and WWE forgot that they play characters. And John wants his character and "real" self to be one in the same. That's why I don't like wrestlers to use their real names, because then the entertainment gets lost and we get stuck with this walk shit.
You can tell the difference between them when you look at his I Quit Match against JBL vs the newest one I Quit Match against Rusev. He sucks so bad.
Why do people hate the guy so much? It's the WWE that made his persona
To those fans who wanted him to turn heel. He won't.
Deal with it! It's been years you're whining about him turning heel.
I'm also sick of WWE trying to portray him as the second coming of Jesus. If Cena is Jesus then I guess I'm a fan of the anitchirst Seth Rollins.
Well I think the problem is we see to much of cena. And it's time for a heel change
Have any of you thought that if reigns gets over as a face they can turn cena heel. They can't make him heel if the kids don't have anyone to idealize. Think about it would be bad business