Rotator Cuff Tear Evaluation with @orthoevalpal

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2019
  • A huge Thank You to our patient Marc who allows me to video his shoulder evaluation. In this Rotator Cuff Tear Evaluation with @orthoevalpal I show some special tests, discuss injuries that can mimic a rotator cuff tear, do manual muscle testing and bring the evaluation to a conclusion with our diagnosis.
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  • @TES-bt8sv
    @TES-bt8sv Рік тому +10

    The 'hiking of the shoulder' was the most difficult issue for me to overcome with my pre-op and post-op process. Standing in front of a mirror and concentrating on my movements was crucial.

  • @yolandamendoza732
    @yolandamendoza732 2 роки тому +1

    Very clear and I live you progress with your treatments as the patient feels

  • @marciaturley2850
    @marciaturley2850 2 роки тому +2

    Love this video ♥️ made me smile. So helpful!

  • @badalkc4697
    @badalkc4697 2 роки тому +2

    Paul your videos are great .simple assessment technique. and main thing is real pt. Thanks looking for more videos

  • @CardieTrick
    @CardieTrick Рік тому +6

    Thanks for showing the video, I have the same injury. falling off a Bucking Bronco machine, fascinating seeing what I have done.

  • @zahidkhan-dv8uc
    @zahidkhan-dv8uc 2 роки тому +1

    V informative
    Thanks to u and ur patient patience he is a great man

  • @kristimoore5807
    @kristimoore5807 Місяць тому

    This was very helpful. Thank you!

  • @crosser8
    @crosser8 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you again sir

  • @aleksandarmilanovic5697
    @aleksandarmilanovic5697 4 роки тому +3

    Great and simple clinical reasning! Thank you for your all videos!

  • @tarasdeputat5343
    @tarasdeputat5343 3 роки тому +1

    This video is excellent!!!!

  • @TheNilda437
    @TheNilda437 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much Dr really good explanation God bless u and keep u healthy

  • @richt6353
    @richt6353 2 роки тому +1

    thank you!

  • @briansundayatc
    @briansundayatc 4 роки тому +7

    Athletic Training student here. I love listening to your podcasts on Spotify while I'm out on my morning runs. Thank you for the very helpful and interesting content!

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Brian, So glad you are enjoying the show! Lots more to come. Spread the word. Best, Paul

  • @tncooks
    @tncooks Рік тому +1

    Wish any of the 4 Orthopaedic dr.s I went to were that thorough. Ha rotator cuff surgery still pain under shoulder blade.

  • @trs1965
    @trs1965 Рік тому +2

    How can you tell the difference between a rotator cuff tear and a frozen shoulder?

  • @kevinimmel197
    @kevinimmel197 9 місяців тому

    Very helpful video. Pretty sure this is my problem I will find out tomorrow

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  9 місяців тому

      Glad it was helpful Kevin! Best of luck!

  • @trevorn5116
    @trevorn5116 3 роки тому +5

    Chiropractor here. Love the videos and find them very informative. Patient was in quite a bit of discomfort. What did you do for pain management and did patient not fair well with active care which led to the MRI referral and ultimate surgical repair? Thanks

  • @catherinemillard9623
    @catherinemillard9623 10 місяців тому

    Excellent video! How long would you recommend physio for very limited ROM before MRI/CT Scan.

  • @alonie5537
    @alonie5537 Рік тому

    I love your videos.
    I have a left rotator cuff injury...its been 5 yrs. Went to 12 wks. Of therapy only missed 3 days..ot w better but starting to hurt again. A d my left .isveryvery painful..could I have Rotstor cups at same time

  • @NoOneInParticular88
    @NoOneInParticular88 Рік тому +1

    great video! very informative, i had a nice little wreck over my handlebars the other day & have some stiffness & pain. I passed all these tests with only minor pain, able to raise it fine in all directions and resist force pressed against it. safe to say I have just sprained those muscles?

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  Рік тому

      Ouch! Probably. Don't let it linger too long though.

  • @vbBegin1957
    @vbBegin1957 4 місяці тому

    Question: I had surgery back in July 2023. Visited physical therapist evaluated and undergone physical therapy for right shoulder supraspinatus and bicep tenodesis post op. Been in physical therapy for five months I was doing the lateral raise up to my ear and anterior raise by my ear as well. The lateral raise hear some clicks on my right shoulder. My therapist tells me its normal until i smooth it out during my therapy sessions.
    What do you think.

  • @waynesinclair483
    @waynesinclair483 Рік тому +2

    Great eval from former M.D.

  • @xzx3
    @xzx3 11 місяців тому

    Was there a follow up video to this? I have full subscapular tear and partial supraspinatus. I have full range of motion but AC joint pain in actions and at rest.. Surgeon advised rotator cuff surgery curious to know if it's common to have surgery with full range of motion

  • @lilliconner6328
    @lilliconner6328 3 роки тому +2

    What is his bicipital groove tenderness attributed to?
    Thank you so much for the awesome videos!

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  3 роки тому +3

      HI Lilli, the torn biceps, retinaculum and bursitis. He just had his cuff repaired 3 days ago and doing very well.

    • @lilliconner6328
      @lilliconner6328 3 роки тому +2

      That’s so good to hear and thank you so much for your prompt response!

  • @aldrinrivera2276
    @aldrinrivera2276 2 роки тому

    Sir do you have a video how to proper bend my knee because its limited to 90 degrees after my leg operation i cant afford for a therapist hope you can help me sir thank you.

  • @darylhudson777
    @darylhudson777 Рік тому +1

    Three plus years ago I fell off my bicycle going about 25 miles an hour onto concrete sidewalk. It took a long time to raise my right arm and now I usually raise it up like they teach you in the military to shoot a rifle when I eat. Raising it up in front of me I feel like something jumping over something else. I've been to these so-called orthopedic doctors and surgeons and they've never told me what's wrong they looked at x-rays or whatever and I need some help but I only have Medicaid. I even went over 50 mi away to an orthopedic surgeon but he wanted to take more X-rays and acted like he couldn't get my x-rays from the city I lived in at that hospital. I just don't want to be x-rayed anymore because I've had so much I'm afraid I'm going to get cancer from the radiation. I don't know how I can be helped from posting this but I gave it a shot.

  • @nano927
    @nano927 Рік тому

    The legend says he is still emptying that can

  • @sergiubot2923
    @sergiubot2923 Рік тому +1

    Paul ,can you tel please ; "Deteorated Supraspinatus Tendonitis " it is accepted as disability at the age of 60 ?

  • @nofurtherwest3474
    @nofurtherwest3474 7 місяців тому

    Dr, is it ok to run with a partial tear? I play soccer and wondering if I can run while playing soccer.

  • @subbuxy
    @subbuxy 4 роки тому +3

    What is the difference between Bear Hug and Belly Press and Lift off tests when all three is for the same Subscapularis muscle? Please explain the subtle diffrence.

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  4 роки тому +9

      The Bear hug and Belly press are relatively similar. I think two different people wanted credit for a subscap test. The Lift -off on the other hand eliminates the other internal rotators such as the pec major, Lats, Teres major, and places the subscapularis in a more efficient position to internally rotate. Some people cannot get to the lift-off position because of arthritis or capsular stiffness so I fall back on the first two.

  • @MrUniman609
    @MrUniman609 Рік тому +4

    I have a very similar problem to the one you have just demonstrated in your video, but I had a lot of pain at night when I laid down, ( but eased it by resting my arm on a pillow for support ) I have had this problem for four years now, the night pain has ceased or abated quite a lot, but I have a lot of weakness, when I raise my arm away from my body, it will then become very painful and my arms strength will give out and just drop.

  • @stephenjohn904
    @stephenjohn904 2 роки тому +4

    excellent presentation for rotator cuff exam and differentiating shoulder pain.
    really brings out the flow of exam for quick shoulder and upper extremity exam. it looks like you missed the obrien's test for SLAP tear. probably ddint need it as his biceps test was normal.

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  2 роки тому

      Hi Stephen, I often test all of that during the first evaluation. When I have a diagnosis, I keep the video short and to the point just so it is not so lengthy for the patient. He did have surgery, RCR, no labral injury. Good Question!!

  • @RobertSander
    @RobertSander Рік тому

    Very interesting, I am 75 years old and my left shoulder is much like the person you are working with. Sleeping was OK at first, my injury was 15-20 years ago I think. I saw a dr. at that time and he tried cortisone shots that didn't help at all so I had PT for 10 weeks but that didn't help much, paid for by employer health coverage. I then went to a dr. who measured for tissues at the bones and said I had arthritis, and said pain can be managed by analgesics until they don't and then shoulder replacement is recommended based on my pain level. Arthritis or rotator cuff injury the repair method is the same, surgery.

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  Рік тому

      Hi Robert, the repair procedures are different. Very different

  • @nasimgulsahak956
    @nasimgulsahak956 2 роки тому

    I have my shoulder pain for five years.

  • @mohamedorayith4626
    @mohamedorayith4626 3 роки тому +4

    8:00 That caught me off guard
    Why "the larger the tear, the less pain at rest"??
    Shouldn't inflammatory conditions have pain at rest but ease off during activity?

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  3 роки тому +2

      less of the tissue to tear more if it is a large tear. Good question

    • @DHMeister
      @DHMeister Рік тому +2

      @@OrthoEvalPal Same here. I had a complete tear and the surgery did not help. I was in more pain as it was in process of breaking down than I was with the complete tear. Now it make sense. Unfortunately, now a complete shouder replacement is on the horizon. Thanks for the knowledge.

    • @salcruz8461
      @salcruz8461 Рік тому

      That caught of guard as well.

  • @dorydiavelone3531
    @dorydiavelone3531 Рік тому

    I’m having severe pain when I sleep is the good news that I probably don’t have a tear??

  • @randischlecht2437
    @randischlecht2437 2 роки тому +8

    I tore my right rotator cuff during a basketball tournament. It’s been hurting for 3 days. I made a appointment to see my regular doctor. I can’t sleep on the right side but it does hurt every time I use my right arm

    • @dingdong6005
      @dingdong6005 Рік тому

      How are you doing now?

    • @randischlecht2437
      @randischlecht2437 Рік тому

      @@dingdong6005 doing good now

    • @dingdong6005
      @dingdong6005 Рік тому

      @@randischlecht2437 how did you heal it ? I have rotator cuff injury it seems and it hurts even when lifting light .

    • @randischlecht2437
      @randischlecht2437 Рік тому

      @@dingdong6005 i went through physical therapy for a little while, slowly healed up

    • @kevinlapaiz
      @kevinlapaiz Рік тому

      How slowly? How long did it take?

  • @mohamedorayith4626
    @mohamedorayith4626 3 роки тому +1

    Why does your passive movement not exacerbated the painful arc or the flexion of shoulder?

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  3 роки тому +1

      When you actively lift your arm, your deltoid superiorly migrates the humeral head which causes more impingement whereas passive ROM doesn't do that. Plus this guy has no rotator cuff to depress the head with AROM

    • @mohamedorayith4626
      @mohamedorayith4626 3 роки тому

      @@OrthoEvalPal Thank you very much

  • @amitkumarsharmamaraal687
    @amitkumarsharmamaraal687 Рік тому

    Can I send you my MRI,Sir?

  • @ki8417
    @ki8417 2 роки тому +1

    Sir do scar tissue form over time even without surgery?

  • @linhthoaiong6837
    @linhthoaiong6837 2 роки тому

    Similar case. Could you please send me a link how to do phisiotherapy for this? Thank you so much.

  • @MariaHernandez-hv3wb
    @MariaHernandez-hv3wb 2 роки тому +3

    Question: why have an MRI after the different treatment and not before?
    Wouldn't be better to have the MRI first to see what is exactly the problem? I have my appointment with an orthopedic doctor soon, and I wouldn't want to go through all the treatments and then have to have an MRI. Please explain. Thanks

    • @helicart
      @helicart Рік тому +1

      because 95% of the time cuff injuries are not serious, and settle with rest followed by appropriate exercise.
      MRIs are expensive.
      You are always free to put your hand in your pocket and pull out $3000+ for a MRI before physio treatment.
      But Medicare prefers you get physio first.

  • @danbrown8310
    @danbrown8310 2 роки тому +2

    What if you do have tingling

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  2 роки тому +3

      Need to consider nerve irritation

  • @nonyofyas
    @nonyofyas 3 роки тому +1

    Why does he have tenderness in the bicipital groove?

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  3 роки тому +1

      Lots of inflammation in that area.

  • @tanyablair5893
    @tanyablair5893 2 роки тому +6

    My first time here.. what’s if my hand can not go behind my back and I’m in a lot of pain. Also my breast is swollen and behind my shoulder arm too. I also feel pain when I try to lift it up.

    • @kmsy200
      @kmsy200 2 роки тому +1

      Please go for Xray. Will show everything even if you have calcium build up . I pray for you

    • @CloverMeFireStone
      @CloverMeFireStone Рік тому

      See if you can unhook a bra or comb your hair. Maybe you have adhesive capsulitis or frozen shoulder. Although im not sure about the swollen breast

    • @donjohnson8952
      @donjohnson8952 Рік тому

      ​@@kmsy200x-rays for bones what she wants is an MRI

  • @damodaranp7605
    @damodaranp7605 2 роки тому

    What is the immediate remedy if rc tear shows in mri?

  • @lawrencelebreton6720
    @lawrencelebreton6720 Рік тому +1

    Yeah, why did My doctor not do these test he sent me to a physio person who then talked with there people who sent me to for an exray but none of these test were done

    • @Amy-wv1tq
      @Amy-wv1tq Рік тому

      Same with me....no test performed but sending me for MRI

  • @GmanfromTexas
    @GmanfromTexas Рік тому

    I had a stiff and painful shoulder. Orthopedic doctor touched my shoulder and had me do some resistance and said I need surgery for a torn rotator cuff. He scheduled an MRI. it’s been a week now and my movement is back 95% and no pain. No MRI yet.
    Is surgery really needed at this point?

    • @davidjitt8097
      @davidjitt8097 Рік тому

      Do you have Instagram?

    • @davidjitt8097
      @davidjitt8097 Рік тому

      Look up “Thephysiofix”

    • @GmanfromTexas
      @GmanfromTexas Рік тому

      @@davidjitt8097 yes. I looked up thephysiofix. There are three accounts under that name. which one do you recommend?

    • @dingdong6005
      @dingdong6005 Рік тому

      How are you doing now?

    • @GmanfromTexas
      @GmanfromTexas Рік тому +1

      @@dingdong6005 I have recovered well. Did a cat scan and it showed a hairline fracture. Dr. Now says no surgery needed. Thanks for asking

  • @markharwell8793
    @markharwell8793 2 роки тому

    @4:40 "Obviously I don't want to kill him... (Because his left arm and fist still work well!)

  • @samirprajapati3689
    @samirprajapati3689 4 роки тому +1

    what's his MRI results??

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Samir, Just had MRI. Supraspinatus and infraspinatus tears and some tearing of the labrum.

    • @monyd7roog
      @monyd7roog 4 роки тому

      Ortho EVAL Pal With Paul Marquis
      Hi Paul , if there is something at teres minor?
      Thanks for your amazing videos

    • @HeyIntegrity
      @HeyIntegrity 2 роки тому +2

      @@OrthoEvalPal was the muscle itself torn or showed atrophy?

    • @OrthoEvalPal
      @OrthoEvalPal  2 роки тому +1

      @@HeyIntegrity it was torn and then repaired

  • @alexwonner7469
    @alexwonner7469 4 роки тому +2

    Just need a good ultrasound...

  • @the915kid9
    @the915kid9 Рік тому

    As someone who is really self conscious about their body, do you get to at least keep your socks and underwear on during surgery?

  • @roadracer1584
    @roadracer1584 Рік тому

    He's a big boy. The doc ought to put him on a slim fast diet.

  • @michelecaron
    @michelecaron Рік тому

    I have 5 tears…. I’d smack doc with good arm if he hurt me 😅 kidding doc ❤