I think the reason you misscounted the mana on epiphany is because the Rowan was still on the board, giving you the 1 discount, then when you ulted it died so you lost the discount
I clipped and printed your face from the thumbnail onto fabric and glued it to my speedbag.🥊 Working out is going to be a lot more enjoyable! Thanks CGB! ❤
Tried building this deck idea about a month ago but didn't have enough wildcards for 4 Rowans. Did amazingly well with just 2 but it wasn't strong enough. Seeing it perfected here definitely makes me want to craft this pile for sure. I definitely didn't think about having soul sear in this deck either. Thanks for the great ideas as always. Copied epiphany is an instant scoop.
Quick question around the 21:50 ish mark: How does the Stomp on the hydra work? I kinda get it, but at the same time I feel like I’m missing something.
Because the Hydra prevents the damage AND removes the counters. So, with normal damage it actually does not get damaged, it only loses counters until it has none and becomes a 0/0 and died. The bonecrusher says the "damage" cannot be prevented, so, when it hits the hydra it loses the counters, but still gets damaged anyways.
@@dudeofvalor9294 Polukranos is actually a 0/0 with 4 counters on it. Bonecrushers line of "damage can't be prevented" or whatever it says trumps the line on Polukranos that says to prevent the damage and remove counters instead. Polukranos is basically just being held together by counters and when hit with the Stomp it takes away that ability and puts the zombie hydra into -2 toughness and so it dies.
This deck is so much fun. The faceless havens do a lot of work... It's also really fun to foretell a Saw it Coming and then play a Rowan when you have 4 mana, because her ability allows you to defend her with the Saw it Coming for just 1 blue mana.
I play a tempo deck with Will/Rowan and the dragons right now. I run Magma Opus instead of Alrund's Epiphany. I prefer Opus with Goldspan because it's another way to enable a Turn 4 Goldspan Dragon on the play (a lot of decks tap out Turn 3). Also, the "tap" function can target Goldspan (allowing me to keep up a counterspell up despite blowing my treasures on Magma Opus), plus it's an instant and can often negate the opponent's turn entirely to allow me to win the following turn (tap down/kill creatures and end the game with the Dragon/Elemental). The normal tempo deck lacks a T3 play if you can afford to make a treasure on T2 (usually against control), as it relies more on landing a Prismari Command to get the T4 dragon. If I'm up against an empty board on T3, I can run out Rowan and they're forced to deal with it. If I have a treasure up, I can even keep a counterspell up to protect Rowan (countering something like a Binding the Old Gods with a one-mana Jwari Disruption gives a ridiculous amount of tempo) or save my counterspell to land a T4 Goldspan and be happy that I drew out their removal. Best thing, if you draw Will/Rowan later, it's not a dead draw - it gives you mana draw and can create tempo via the cost reduction, allowing you to keep up with control decks that ramp better than you, and you can afford to run 24 lands.
Now: 2x Frostbite, 1x Essence Scatter, 4x Jwari Disruption, 1x Negate, 1x Test of Talents, 3x Expressive Iteration, 1x Shatterskull Smashing, 4x Divide by Zero, 2x Mystical Dispute, 3x Brazen Borrower, 2x Saw it Coming, 3x Bonecrusher Giant, 2x Igneous Inspiration, 3x Will/Rowan, 3x Prismari Command, 4x Goldspan Dragon, 2x Magma Opus, 5x Snow Island, 4x Snow Mountain, 4x Riverglide Pathway, 4x Volatile Fjord, 2x Faceless Haven Sideboard: Env. Sciences x2, Teachings of the Archaics x2, Introduction to Prophecy x1, Introduction to Annihilation x1, Mascot Exhibition x1. This is in Best-of-1. I've played around a lot with the exact numbers based on my experience with the meta. Problem is, there are a lot of dead or subpar draws based on your matchup. You can shunt away a couple with Prismari Command/Expressive Iteration You need to balance that against the need to reliably outpace mono-red and mono-white via card advantage/removal, and reliably beat Emergent Ultimatum. I also like to win occasionally against Rogues (easily my worst MU). I'm firm that 4x Goldspan Dragon, 3x Will/Rowan, 3x Prismari Command, 3x Expressive Iteration, 2x Mystical Dispute are the way to go. Could go +/- on Igneous Inspiration/Divide by Zero (Igneous is solid vs. aggro, Divide wrecks control). Sideboard is also firm.
In regards to Will’s -7, exiling your treasure tokens is pretty epic. It’s a little different deck but I built one around the twins with the prismari dragon and Magda. Not too sure it’s good, maybe it can get there, but at the moment I don’t have the wildcards to craft a full set of the twins or alrunds epiphany
I've honestly been having the mtga time of my life playing 150 card esper yourion. I was totally surprised how competitive it is too. There's few things in life as fun mance dancing a dozen enchantment then blinking with yorion then blinking yorion with charming prince. 10/10 Pure jank pleasure.
Like this. Been wanting to see more people using Barbie and Ken. Fun fact. I've recently discovered Dreamstrix is a very slept on card. Question (Lorewise): Do they each have half a spark? Like, they are obviously paternal twins but maybe only one spark split between them. Or they're wonder twins and only get powers when they're together? I need to pick up the books.
Man I was seriously on edge and dazzled by thinking through all the plays in game 3! If it had went sideways to the greedy activating the fearless haven at the finish line the world would have wept! I would have wept. Probably would have won anyway and was still really impressive to hear your thought process that game.
I don’t know if you edit your videos specifically centered around our viewing pleasure, but dang bro; seriously feel good matches right there. Straight up twining
Polukranos at 4/4 can die to stomp, learn something everyday. Trying new cards, fresh content and an 875 day streak. Awesome! Keep up the great work! CKC
You are a true goldfinger... I just played 5 games with this deck and went 0-5 with no chance winning any of the games. Monogreen, ww x 2, monored, ultimatum and monoblack discard.
@@simcosports2584 Proffesor Onyxtaker also has "0: Make a black 1/3 legendary minion token named "Paul Behrer" that says Tap: Tap target non-black creature" [pardon my bad magic text templating]
Can you see how many available lands the opponents have in the "overlay" as well. Because yeah apparently my Genxness has kept me from realizing that all this time. Even gone as far as using different arts on EACH so i can count um. Haha
Nothing the deck needs it as a kill spell but it also needs the extra threat if you have goldspans you could try moving some cards around and playing that but at that point just play dragons
Can someone explain how the first Stomp on the Polukranos only took off two counters, but the second took off another two and did two more damage? Why didn't the first do four as well?
Paused at 1:06.... keep talking wrestling! WOTC, I need Hulk Hogan, Andre, Bam-Bam, Randy Savage, and Ted DiBiase planeswalkers. Jake Roberts in all 5 colors. Dwayne Johnson colorless powerhouse. Tag team as a mechanic!?!?! DUDE!!!! Bushwackers deck or broke.
CGB: People ask me all the time - "Why don´t you just look at the overlay?" "─ Beacuse i played paper Magic for 20 frecking years you little zoomer! It´s a habit!" :-)
You don't have Armageddon yourself with Will's ultimate do you? It says "five permanents" not "five permanents you control". So you could target your opponents lands then Draconic Intervention something like Magma Opus to wipe them. Or am I missing something?
In paper magic you move your land into piles to check if you have enough, you can also physically count them which is what qq does for you. Mental math is a terrible option in paper magic.
Try lithoformengine! Doubling Sorten appilities in brawl for only 2 mana is stupid Like the bridge, koma, the New boros dragon ,the planewalkers or sagas
@@Amphok So what the first bonecrusher giant did, was to 1. remove 2 counters from polukranos so it became a 4/4 and then 2. did 2 damage to it so it is now a 4/2. But at the end step, damage heals back (normal rules), so it became a 4/4 again. If you pause and look really closely it does say 4/2 on the card very briefly. Then the same thing happened next turn: it first became a 2/2 then a 2/0 at which point it just died.
Went up against turn 2 Ultimatum in standard today.... Has CGB covered that yet? Combo is: Cast tormod's crypt for 0 Counter it with tibalt's trickery ??? Ultimatum into Ugin
Worst deck in the format. There's no point in warping your deck to beat it since it loses to itself plenty, so it isn't popular. But it sucks to lose to it.
That far into Strix and you're still trying to give us new decks, a lot of creators have already quit in wait for D&D Magic. Thanks CGB :D
Indeed, cheers to this guy
Well this deck has been around for a while already it’s not new lol, it just has some CGB flavor.
@@ZxChrono by that account you could say almost everything is out there already lol
CGB is the dude for sure.
Cgb smells like cheese
I think the reason you misscounted the mana on epiphany is because the Rowan was still on the board, giving you the 1 discount, then when you ulted it died so you lost the discount
big brain
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The thumbnail art just gets better and better.
I just hope they become the same level as MBMs thumbnails a year ago.
ikr
I came here just to say the same thing. Love the thumbnail!
Was gonna upvote but left it at NICE
CGB your channel is running ads for a scam app -survey junky-
The intro with absolute honesty is great. In the first min I knew the video was not about a top tier competitive deck, but a fun deck to watch.
I clipped and printed your face from the thumbnail onto fabric and glued it to my speedbag.🥊 Working out is going to be a lot more enjoyable! Thanks CGB! ❤
Lmao when you realize the real wincon of the deck is upticking Rowan for 20 turns straight
wow, the last game just blew me away, what a nice string of fast-paced gameplay :D
Letting Will and Rowan your top 500 rank out for a spin with 2 days left in the season . What a mad lad.
Tried building this deck idea about a month ago but didn't have enough wildcards for 4 Rowans. Did amazingly well with just 2 but it wasn't strong enough. Seeing it perfected here definitely makes me want to craft this pile for sure. I definitely didn't think about having soul sear in this deck either. Thanks for the great ideas as always. Copied epiphany is an instant scoop.
Hahaha "I was too salty!" lol love your videos they are the best and my favorite, thank you!
Quick question around the 21:50 ish mark: How does the Stomp on the hydra work? I kinda get it, but at the same time I feel like I’m missing something.
Because the Hydra prevents the damage AND removes the counters. So, with normal damage it actually does not get damaged, it only loses counters until it has none and becomes a 0/0 and died. The bonecrusher says the "damage" cannot be prevented, so, when it hits the hydra it loses the counters, but still gets damaged anyways.
@@dobnerr Ah, it’s a case of “I outsmarted your damage!” And “I expected you to do that!”, thanks a bunch c:
It removes two counters to prevent the damage but it can not prevent it so when it is a 2/2 it takes 2 damage and bye
@@dobnerr how does it work on four counters and not six?
@@dudeofvalor9294 Polukranos is actually a 0/0 with 4 counters on it. Bonecrushers line of "damage can't be prevented" or whatever it says trumps the line on Polukranos that says to prevent the damage and remove counters instead. Polukranos is basically just being held together by counters and when hit with the Stomp it takes away that ability and puts the zombie hydra into -2 toughness and so it dies.
I actually really like these characters (especially nerdy ice man Will over here) and am happy to see them getting some time in the spotlight. Thanks!
Being able to cast Saw It Coming for just {U} feels like a crime.
I mean there is the counterspell abjure so 😌
it is
I've played many a deck with my favorite zombie hydra, Polukranos, and have never seen a stomp that good. Noice!!!!
I love seeing that this has been out for an hour and already at 3k views
This deck is so much fun. The faceless havens do a lot of work...
It's also really fun to foretell a Saw it Coming and then play a Rowan when you have 4 mana, because her ability allows you to defend her with the Saw it Coming for just 1 blue mana.
I play a tempo deck with Will/Rowan and the dragons right now. I run Magma Opus instead of Alrund's Epiphany. I prefer Opus with Goldspan because it's another way to enable a Turn 4 Goldspan Dragon on the play (a lot of decks tap out Turn 3). Also, the "tap" function can target Goldspan (allowing me to keep up a counterspell up despite blowing my treasures on Magma Opus), plus it's an instant and can often negate the opponent's turn entirely to allow me to win the following turn (tap down/kill creatures and end the game with the Dragon/Elemental).
The normal tempo deck lacks a T3 play if you can afford to make a treasure on T2 (usually against control), as it relies more on landing a Prismari Command to get the T4 dragon. If I'm up against an empty board on T3, I can run out Rowan and they're forced to deal with it. If I have a treasure up, I can even keep a counterspell up to protect Rowan (countering something like a Binding the Old Gods with a one-mana Jwari Disruption gives a ridiculous amount of tempo) or save my counterspell to land a T4 Goldspan and be happy that I drew out their removal.
Best thing, if you draw Will/Rowan later, it's not a dead draw - it gives you mana draw and can create tempo via the cost reduction, allowing you to keep up with control decks that ramp better than you, and you can afford to run 24 lands.
hi! do you mind to share your list james?
Now: 2x Frostbite, 1x Essence Scatter, 4x Jwari Disruption, 1x Negate, 1x Test of Talents, 3x Expressive Iteration, 1x Shatterskull Smashing, 4x Divide by Zero, 2x Mystical Dispute, 3x Brazen Borrower, 2x Saw it Coming, 3x Bonecrusher Giant, 2x Igneous Inspiration, 3x Will/Rowan, 3x Prismari Command, 4x Goldspan Dragon, 2x Magma Opus, 5x Snow Island, 4x Snow Mountain, 4x Riverglide Pathway, 4x Volatile Fjord, 2x Faceless Haven
Sideboard: Env. Sciences x2, Teachings of the Archaics x2, Introduction to Prophecy x1, Introduction to Annihilation x1, Mascot Exhibition x1.
This is in Best-of-1.
I've played around a lot with the exact numbers based on my experience with the meta. Problem is, there are a lot of dead or subpar draws based on your matchup. You can shunt away a couple with Prismari Command/Expressive Iteration You need to balance that against the need to reliably outpace mono-red and mono-white via card advantage/removal, and reliably beat Emergent Ultimatum. I also like to win occasionally against Rogues (easily my worst MU).
I'm firm that 4x Goldspan Dragon, 3x Will/Rowan, 3x Prismari Command, 3x Expressive Iteration, 2x Mystical Dispute are the way to go. Could go +/- on Igneous Inspiration/Divide by Zero (Igneous is solid vs. aggro, Divide wrecks control). Sideboard is also firm.
@@mistajames3213 thankssss! will try it 😁
In regards to Will’s -7, exiling your treasure tokens is pretty epic. It’s a little different deck but I built one around the twins with the prismari dragon and Magda. Not too sure it’s good, maybe it can get there, but at the moment I don’t have the wildcards to craft a full set of the twins or alrunds epiphany
"I have to slow down. I'm playing like an idiot." (red mage?)
Misses the rowan play as he says that.
Very cool deck, I’m excited to see how new cards might really elevate this pile. Good stuff, thank you.
I've honestly been having the mtga time of my life playing 150 card esper yourion. I was totally surprised how competitive it is too. There's few things in life as fun mance dancing a dozen enchantment then blinking with yorion then blinking yorion with charming prince. 10/10 Pure jank pleasure.
Like this. Been wanting to see more people using Barbie and Ken. Fun fact. I've recently discovered Dreamstrix is a very slept on card. Question (Lorewise): Do they each have half a spark? Like, they are obviously paternal twins but maybe only one spark split between them. Or they're wonder twins and only get powers when they're together? I need to pick up the books.
I have will and Rowan in my reconstruct Yorion deck and I like ulting Rowan then grabbing them back with reconstruct history. It's pretty powerful
Man I was seriously on edge and dazzled by thinking through all the plays in game 3! If it had went sideways to the greedy activating the fearless haven at the finish line the world would have wept! I would have wept. Probably would have won anyway and was still really impressive to hear your thought process that game.
I don’t know if you edit your videos specifically centered around our viewing pleasure, but dang bro; seriously feel good matches right there. Straight up twining
i loved this!! It's my favorite card from the set :D
If you could make a brawl deck around it i'd love you xD
Polukranos at 4/4 can die to stomp, learn something everyday. Trying new cards, fresh content and an 875 day streak. Awesome!
Keep up the great work! CKC
Great content as always blue!! 👏
The Will -7 is to target opponents lands and sweep board ;)
I don't understand the Polukranos-giant interaction at around 22:00
You are a true goldfinger... I just played 5 games with this deck and went 0-5 with no chance winning any of the games. Monogreen, ww x 2, monored, ultimatum and monoblack discard.
Ngl Chandra might be a better planeswalker to go with hot girl summer
Is that NARSET? ON THE TOP ROPE?? HOT GIRL SUMMERKO OUTTA NOWHERE!!!
@@MasterCrvo Sad no one is getting the RKO greatness here, but I see you. Well done.
Undertaker music starts to play, lights go out, then back on, professor onyx standing behind you. You rang?
@@simcosports2584 Proffesor Onyxtaker also has "0: Make a black 1/3 legendary minion token named "Paul Behrer" that says Tap: Tap target non-black creature" [pardon my bad magic text templating]
@@MasterCrvo Suddenly everything goes red and a masked figure in red appears behind professor onyx with her hair on fire. Uh oh.
Hahahah that thumbnail. *bucktooth expression, "gnrrrrrr"
I've been waiting for a Rowan deck to try!
Me too. There is a deck that Sonio did with the twins which is pretty good against the gold-plat meta in the arena. Check it out
Where have you been at? A similar deck has been around for a while.
@@ZxChrono Not paying attention, apparently XD
i’ve been playing a brawl version of rowan with the same vibe and i looooove it
I use the Strixhaven Rowan//Will as my braw commander and it’s so much fun.
Can you see how many available lands the opponents have in the "overlay" as well. Because yeah apparently my Genxness has kept me from realizing that all this time. Even gone as far as using different arts on EACH so i can count um. Haha
How can you not like the soft tones of Pippin Took as Rowan CGB
I imagine the thumbnail was CGB looking over his shoulder to see if Gina was near him when typing the title card
Your face on the thumbnail 👌
What would you suggest to use instead of Bonecrusher Giant?
none tbh. its just too good
Nothing the deck needs it as a kill spell but it also needs the extra threat if you have goldspans you could try moving some cards around and playing that but at that point just play dragons
What would you swap in if you wanted to play it in 2022?
Can someone explain how the first Stomp on the Polukranos only took off two counters, but the second took off another two and did two more damage? Why didn't the first do four as well?
Great content as usual CGB, keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time Warp or Alrund's Ep.?
Love u for the twin magic :-D
Very impressive with stomp killing Polukranos, it took me a minute to figure out why.
11:46 and all quiet on the western front
Im playing this deck but with Graven Lore, fits very well
is there a version of this that plays aegar the freezing flame, could be a good draw engine?
could you fit the other twin Planeswalker card in there maybe?
This is a very fun deck to play
35:33 British CGB is scary
CGB these thumbnails💀
Loving the GoT references this episode. Yes all of chat/youtube comments are all jon snows.
Paused at 1:06.... keep talking wrestling! WOTC, I need Hulk Hogan, Andre, Bam-Bam, Randy Savage, and Ted DiBiase planeswalkers. Jake Roberts in all 5 colors. Dwayne Johnson colorless powerhouse. Tag team as a mechanic!?!?! DUDE!!!! Bushwackers deck or broke.
Can we see an izzet deck with avalanche caller please? Especially if we are running snow
Like as usual, but more so for the wrestling reference today! Got to love it.
CKC! So happy to see Izzet be competitive
temur build with Kasmina, Rowan, And Yorion maybe?
I did really like your matches with this deck. Tried it my own and lost bigtime. Once a red mage, always a red mage.
Why does Expressive Iteration give an emblem on the side with a number of times it was cast?
Probably because you can cast the card until EOT and wotc screwed up the code.
sometimes you forget that sacrificing rowan for her ult makes you lose your cost reduction. 30:28
Fun pile!
quote of the day "Because I've played magic for 20 freaking years you little zoomer, I've got habits"
The amusement that those were bad habits in paper magic too
I have lost games by visually miscounting my land, and like you I have played paper magic since 1995....
Lol I'm dead😂 I have habits I'm old
Just -7 Will after resolving an epiphany and goo all in
This deck... YES! YES! YES!
Error: Every deck should be a goldspan dragon deck
Okay quick interesting idea. Use the big 6/6 green guy that doubles counters with the blue twin and destroy all their lands!!
Am I the only one missing the final thoughts on the decks in the last few videos?
I'm pretty sure Will is voiced by Billy Boyd (Pippin)
CGB: People ask me all the time - "Why don´t you just look at the overlay?"
"─ Beacuse i played paper Magic for 20 frecking years you little zoomer! It´s a habit!" :-)
CGB showing the true Test of Talents against mono red.
You don't have Armageddon yourself with Will's ultimate do you? It says "five permanents" not "five permanents you control". So you could target your opponents lands then Draconic Intervention something like Magma Opus to wipe them. Or am I missing something?
−7: Exile up to five target permanents. For each permanent exiled this way, its controller creates a 4/4 blue and red Elemental creature token
It's definitely intended for use on opponent's stuff, im sure.
I misunderstood your question.
Yes I believe you can.
@@IAMDARTHVADERBITCH yeah, I know you can. Problem is I'm not sure CGB does ;-)
Hey CGB. Waiting for new Song Of Creation deck. And Dimir Snow Control with Snow Zombie Lord (forgot the name)
One of the funnier combos for Will is exile your opponent's lands then lighting storm them so you Armageddon their lands
I use Will to armageddon my opponents. Follow up his ultimate with Extinction Event.
In paper magic you move your land into piles to check if you have enough, you can also physically count them which is what qq does for you. Mental math is a terrible option in paper magic.
Nice brew
Let’s go for the WWE reference!!!
Try lithoformengine!
Doubling Sorten appilities in brawl for only 2 mana is stupid
Like the bridge, koma, the New boros dragon ,the planewalkers or sagas
The Thumbnail XD Haha 🤣
why the first bonecrusher didn't kill polukranos? damage can't be prevented right so it's like killing a 0/0
Polukranos is still a 4/4 after the first stomp it only took two damage so he survived
@@yoav.kats6328 yeah that's not my point, i mean why the first stomp dealt only 2 damage since it can prevent the damage and the second one did 4?
@@Amphok So what the first bonecrusher giant did, was to 1. remove 2 counters from polukranos so it became a 4/4 and then 2. did 2 damage to it so it is now a 4/2. But at the end step, damage heals back (normal rules), so it became a 4/4 again. If you pause and look really closely it does say 4/2 on the card very briefly. Then the same thing happened next turn: it first became a 2/2 then a 2/0 at which point it just died.
@@1ryb360 oh tnx i missed that lol silly me
stomp on polukranos deals to him two damage that cant be prevented therefore he loses two counters in addition to the damage
Ranking up! :D
Really sweet
Wills -7 Is fun only if you have a sweeper. Blow up enemy lands
This is my favorite thumbnail
Went up against turn 2 Ultimatum in standard today.... Has CGB covered that yet?
Combo is:
Cast tormod's crypt for 0
Counter it with tibalt's trickery
???
Ultimatum into Ugin
Yeah that deck was a thing at the beginning of Kaldheim- a huge hit or fizzle lottery deck. He made a video a few months ago on it.
@@seiromem5708 fortunately, the 0-cost enablers rotate out in Fall.
Worst deck in the format. There's no point in warping your deck to beat it since it loses to itself plenty, so it isn't popular. But it sucks to lose to it.
This Wil and Rohan planeswalker card seems now better than the one from throne..
Game 2: 3x Epiphany 3x Frost Bite 3x Iteration in the top 15 cards. Shuffler good.
The fact that the only card in this deck that is rotating come September is Giant is amazing. I'm 1 mythic off of crafting this.
Sorry, I missed Soul Sear.
And essence scatter, but still. Most of this deck is rotation proof!
Crap, I saw a similar deck in Sonios channel and was hoping to test it, now it is ruin 😅
Sonio would be proud.
Twin magic is fun magic.
"You can look but you can't touch!"
Moar Izzet? 🍿🍿🍿
U get a like for the pic and hashtag
In paper magic it would have been enough mana 🤣
Thank goodness ( :