How Does The P.44 Pantera Perform in 2024 in World of Tanks?!

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  • @wingtip76
    @wingtip76 8 місяців тому +16

    Your index page is my tank bible. Thank you

  • @paulkirby2761
    @paulkirby2761 8 місяців тому +12

    Pantera is great but highlights the "Pay2win" element between a tech-tree tank and it's premium tank alternative. That would be the Progetto 46, which has much the same gun and attributes but because it's a cash-tank it gets better gun handling soft stats, has a faster intra-clip reload time between shells and will also reload it's mag faster since it will start doing that sooner and superior view range.
    These are not massive differences but enough to say "Hmmm, if I had that superior burst speed I'd have won that engagement" and "If my aiming circle was a bit smaller on the move I'd have probably landed that shot instead of hitting the tracks". It also means the Progetto can achieve full view range with 450+ even without optics while the Pantera can't, and this means it can take a piece of equipment to make it even better whereas the Pantera player might feel a bit undercooked without optics.

    • @RODI____
      @RODI____ 8 місяців тому +2

      Did you look at his stats with Pantera, Mars and Progetto? Don't let facts get in the way of a sob story.

    • @paulkirby2761
      @paulkirby2761 8 місяців тому

      @@RODI____ Where's the sob story though? I said the Pantera is great, but the Progetto is a bit better. Try reading first before cutting in with some embarrassingly misplaced effort at trying to be a smart-arse. 😭

    • @folx2733
      @folx2733 8 місяців тому +2

      The facts are that the tech tree tank is much weaker ​@@RODI____

  • @eikonise
    @eikonise 8 місяців тому +3

    I enjoyed the Pantera a lot grinding through it; as Prog 46 owner, the Pantera was a pleasure to play. Now that Wargaming has removed the Progetto 65 from the game, i might move that crew down to Pantera (I already have an ok crew in the Standard B).

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect 7 місяців тому

      The Pantera was the first tier 8 tank I played where I had a TON of fun grinding it. Even stock. I ground most of the way through the Std. B while also having a TON of fun when they nerfed it the first time. Took fun tanks with really derpy guns but great mobility and instead of nerfing the mobility, they nerfed the already derpy guns and made them absolutely garbage.
      Pantera is still OK, but I can't play it or the Std. B anymore without remembering how much fun those tanks used to be.

  • @lopopo940
    @lopopo940 8 місяців тому +5

    Pantera is the first tank i ever marked and this is just a beautiful tank. Try it out, it's very versatile and capable!
    Thanks skill for the tips on stream tho!

    • @vladimirlaquian1508
      @vladimirlaquian1508 8 місяців тому +1

      For mw it was thw VK.30.01.P that's also a good tank

  • @ForestGump101
    @ForestGump101 8 місяців тому +4

    15:31 the moment STB took one for the team

  • @davidballantyne4492
    @davidballantyne4492 8 місяців тому +10

    Hey Skill, how will the Index handle player rating as tanks are buffed and nerfed? Does everyone just have to remember to change their votes?

    • @bigmike98k
      @bigmike98k 8 місяців тому

      premiums are never nerfed the rating will all the same, if that helps

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect 7 місяців тому

      They've nerfed the Super Pershing twice. And the Type 59 once, I think.@@bigmike98k

  • @csongorpapp9807
    @csongorpapp9807 28 днів тому

    Cant agree more, i got my 1st ace tanker in this tank. Gonna 2nd mark it, hopefully even before getting to the Standard B.

  • @siilnr1250
    @siilnr1250 8 місяців тому +1

    took 7 seconds from "scorpion is still sitting there, we are wery vell aware of that" to death by scorpion :D

  • @peytonembaugh1484
    @peytonembaugh1484 8 місяців тому

    Skill seeing you go into that position in karelia brought a smile to my face. That spot helped me 3 mark my pantera several times

  • @niszolen5923
    @niszolen5923 8 місяців тому +7

    I play this tank as an E50 😂
    I love ramming greedy light tanks when I have the opportunity.
    I once drowned an obj 430 with this mastodon. Ahhh, what a battle it was ...

  • @rf-cinematic1576
    @rf-cinematic1576 7 місяців тому +3

    Did this tank gets another nerf? My Pantera has only a 2 shot cannon?!?!

    • @Ma-tv5qs
      @Ma-tv5qs 6 місяців тому

      get the improved turret

    • @rf-cinematic1576
      @rf-cinematic1576 6 місяців тому

      @@Ma-tv5qs yes, I noticed that, after I get it 😀

  • @archangel_rx6009
    @archangel_rx6009 8 місяців тому +2

    Hi Skill4ltu. Fantastic video. It would be great if you could show some love for tier 5 & 6 in Italian line. Videos still missing in index and other videos are 4 years old. Thanks. Have a beautiful time enjoying your holidays.

  • @Timaocampeao1977
    @Timaocampeao1977 8 місяців тому +7

    fico imaginando a conversa no chat do time adversario : ...... ei , é o SKILL no outro time... essa partida já esta perdida 😂

  • @juanjodpr
    @juanjodpr 8 місяців тому +2

    For those of you who are grinding this line, use your free exp to get the top gun, no matter what, so you will have a pseudo Progetto 46. The stock gun is trash with 167mm of pen vs tier X. Good luck with that

  • @christopherestes6760
    @christopherestes6760 8 місяців тому +1

    I was VERY surprised by the T44 Pantera... I thought it was gonna be a rough grind but the tank seems oddly balanced! I enjoyed this grind 18:24 eehhh- that is how I used my Pantera lol Speed/scout with a touch of sneaky shots 🙂

    • @DeepDeepest
      @DeepDeepest 8 місяців тому +1

      balanced? It's the most op tech tree tank out there :) wait for it to be nerfed soon

    • @christopherestes6760
      @christopherestes6760 8 місяців тому +1

      @@DeepDeepest DONT JINX IT!

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect 7 місяців тому

      It's been nerfed 3 times. It has never been, and never will be OP.@@DeepDeepest

  • @stephengreen3367
    @stephengreen3367 8 місяців тому +1

    Every day is Christmas in Skill's world

  • @peytonembaugh1484
    @peytonembaugh1484 8 місяців тому

    I recently got number 1 in wot rating so far in january 30+ games , was really cool and such a good tank

  • @clausbohm9807
    @clausbohm9807 8 місяців тому +1

    I now know your secret Skill, you love a tank long enough ... it will then perform for you ... ha ha ha!

  • @Pilzmann
    @Pilzmann 8 місяців тому +1

    I 3 marked that tank right when it got nerfed. It is still a beast in my opinion. You just have to play around the 3 shots you have and only ever use them for a potential execute! I just wish the Progetto 65 was excluded from the heavy nerf it just feels sad to play

    • @claudioimprota6017
      @claudioimprota6017 8 місяців тому

      Standard b also has a disgusting gun, Idk why people complain only about prog65

  • @nitbot
    @nitbot 8 місяців тому +1

    The Pantera has slightly better armor ... although you cannot rely on it. It can be semi trollish when you angle a certain way against certain guns. Other than that, the Progetto is very slighty better, it has better dpm. But the Pantera, as a tier 8 tech tree tank, is very close to the Progetto. Great tank IMO

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect 7 місяців тому

      Better DPM, better clip (empties 1.5 seconds faster), has a built-in rammer, better turret armor, more accurate gun, and better view range. Progresso is better in every single way.

  • @shudderlp
    @shudderlp 8 місяців тому

    I love p44 also. I definitely leave it in the garage. I'll see how it performs on the front line

  • @joe125ful
    @joe125ful 8 місяців тому +1

    Pantera is great as Spaghetto,litlle more armor and slightly less dpm and less spot range.

  • @andreavai2983
    @andreavai2983 3 місяці тому

    This tonk has no more 3 shots?

  • @paulkirby2761
    @paulkirby2761 8 місяців тому +4

    I wish I could share your praise of the enemy ELC EVEN but it doesn't take high skill to rush to a bush with a microscopic golf cart with 50% camo rating and with equipment that can see concealed enemy tanks in bushes. It's a toxic little shhht and has ruined many a good battle from developing on open maps and screwed lower tier light tanks since they're already at a disadvantage just to add to the fact they can't use that same cheat equipment. The risky "skill" play of the ELC EVEN is getting to the bush, once there, you can go for a coffee and unless your team is utterly useless(which can happen)) you can just put your feet up, sip your coffee, and enjoy the show as your spotting assist clocks up, then go farm a few SPG or mostly dead enemy team end-game. That ain't skill or good for the game.

  • @rajmondvalencak5400
    @rajmondvalencak5400 8 місяців тому +1

    I never see you to play 30vs30?

    • @Fin4L6are
      @Fin4L6are 8 місяців тому +1

      I never see anyone do, imagine my confusion when I first got to tier10

  • @PetrNeubauer
    @PetrNeubauer 7 місяців тому

    nice. I prefer Pantera over Progetto too

  • @ashocck8065
    @ashocck8065 8 місяців тому

    Love this tank almost as much as Prog 46. It's beautiful!

  • @WrekuiemForAMeme
    @WrekuiemForAMeme 8 місяців тому +1

    "All time in World of Tanks" is about 3 mins nowadays 😂

    • @4TheMalKing
      @4TheMalKing 8 місяців тому +2

      They can call it « Blitz » now.
      It’s just ridiculous how fast are games nowadays.

  • @eivindte9686
    @eivindte9686 8 місяців тому

    Already miss your stream skill❤❤

  • @martincortesrodriguez8248
    @martincortesrodriguez8248 8 місяців тому +1

    What a delicious tank ❤️❤️

  • @Akaneblaze1345
    @Akaneblaze1345 8 місяців тому

    ouch 😮 4:47 ouch 5:20 😅 18:50

  • @crimsonlightbinder
    @crimsonlightbinder 8 місяців тому

    one of my favourite tanks in the game

  • @adenilsonsilva1759
    @adenilsonsilva1759 8 місяців тому

    Round number tru 👌

  • @TheSilent333
    @TheSilent333 8 місяців тому +4

    Pantera and Standard B are both so great

    • @michaelraith9481
      @michaelraith9481 8 місяців тому +2

      So far i have to say that P.44 is better. I don't really seem to understand Standard B.

    • @claudioimprota6017
      @claudioimprota6017 8 місяців тому

      Standard b has trash unrealiable gun

  • @benedicvelasco
    @benedicvelasco 8 місяців тому

    Pantera is so good. Mobile and fairly good gun. Found it easier to play this than the standard b.

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect 7 місяців тому

      Std. B always had a derpy gun, and they've nerfed the gun handling 3 times. It's very difficult to play it now, and for no good reason.

  • @KC-yk5xe
    @KC-yk5xe 8 місяців тому +1

    Love how progretto 46 without equipment is still better than the panterra with equipment 😂😂

  • @thiagovieira7157
    @thiagovieira7157 5 місяців тому

    How do you load three shots into the cannon?

    • @mosayyeed
      @mosayyeed Місяць тому

      It is automatic, autoloader

  • @Lupi33z
    @Lupi33z 8 місяців тому

    fond memories of poor man's Progetto

  • @tonysoprano7897
    @tonysoprano7897 8 місяців тому

    I just want round number true every time

  • @eric-wb7gj
    @eric-wb7gj 8 місяців тому

    ty 🙏🙏

  • @TheCrustyCupcake
    @TheCrustyCupcake 8 місяців тому

    Struggling with the T7 before this tank, the gun is atrocious. Making it a hard grind.

  • @friendlyreaper9012
    @friendlyreaper9012 8 місяців тому

    It's a good fun tank but my problem is that I have the progetto 46 which is better, more fun and makes money.

  • @suprfreke
    @suprfreke Місяць тому

    Here from index page sir Baboon! xx

  • @unbekannternr.1353
    @unbekannternr.1353 8 місяців тому

    I got it some time ago when this line appeared. The day after i bought and equipped it it lacked the rammer i applied a day before.
    I haven't played it since.

    • @juanjodpr
      @juanjodpr 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, WG removed the gun rammer from all the Italian medium tanks that had autoreloader and rised the DPM accordingly. This was a flat buff because you could then invest into even better gun handling or mobility. Progetto 65 and Standard B became legendary until WG decides to nerf both into the ground and beyond in the case of the tier X. They are obsolete now. Pantera is the one that more or less skipped the slap but against Progetto 46 is simply a little bit worse at everything except ramming and reload

    • @nikoladd
      @nikoladd 8 місяців тому +3

      @@juanjodpr what re you talking about? Only Progetto 46 was buffed after rammer was removed as equipment and it has 10% better reload then Pantera 44. It was adding insult to injury basically by WG. Progetto 65 was buffed 1y later and then even later it became Nerfgetto. Ramming is literally the only thing Pantera is better then Progetto 46 at, which is nothing to brag about. There is literally not reason to play this tank unless you're grinding the line.

    • @RODI____
      @RODI____ 8 місяців тому

      All hightier italian meds are fun to play if you like the playstyle. Even after the nerf.

  • @pinhead5392
    @pinhead5392 8 місяців тому

    Progetto 46 but square

  • @andryfero
    @andryfero 8 місяців тому

    You know a tank sucks when Skill does his gameplay and doesn't do insane results, if he was using the Progetto 46 he's have done at least 2 games where he had 5-6k or something

  • @sunsettersix6993
    @sunsettersix6993 8 місяців тому

    SKEEEEELLLLLL!!!!

  • @Azrael0500
    @Azrael0500 8 місяців тому

    Guys. I know King Baboon had a problem with his game crashing sometimes. Does anyone know if he still has this problem or has found a solution? I've had the same problem since the beginning of December and it's very frustrating.

  • @selby545
    @selby545 3 місяці тому

    now that they reduced the shells to 2 this tank is useless

    • @csongorpapp9807
      @csongorpapp9807 28 днів тому

      It still has 3 shells what are you talking about

  • @ZAWADAL
    @ZAWADAL 8 місяців тому

    👍

  • @kestutis0329
    @kestutis0329 8 місяців тому +1

    Skilll you are camping master

  • @nikoladd
    @nikoladd 8 місяців тому +47

    Pantera 44 is poor man's Progetto 46. Worse in every way. Basically a middle finger by WG. Just grind this POS and sell it and move to Standard B. Then stay at Standard B.

    • @marcellvarga4569
      @marcellvarga4569 8 місяців тому +3

      I really like the progetto 65 still in 2024, but its absolutely true that its not as good as like a leopard, e50, centurion ax.

    • @huuduy6977
      @huuduy6977 8 місяців тому +13

      Progetto is OP , Pantera is great tank for me

    • @heyoka1994
      @heyoka1994 8 місяців тому +7

      3marked Pantera and Standard B recently. Had a blast with both. Pantera underrated becaouse of Progrtto.

    • @RODI____
      @RODI____ 8 місяців тому +8

      I would rate Pantera as good tank and fun to play.

    • @Derunternehmer0815
      @Derunternehmer0815 8 місяців тому +1

      So True 😂

  • @mefistosk7803
    @mefistosk7803 8 місяців тому

    pantera is good, but progetto 46 is the same, but better..

  • @elviszhang412
    @elviszhang412 Місяць тому

    I prefer pantera, until wg nerf it😂

  • @nikospiaxas3333
    @nikospiaxas3333 8 місяців тому

    Nope don't like it. Huge as a barn and average gun. And DPM is a stinker too. I prefer standard B

  • @richydk7242
    @richydk7242 8 місяців тому

    Never played with it, but it’s definitely better than Skorpion

  • @luxxxurymercedes
    @luxxxurymercedes 8 місяців тому +1

    First baboon

    • @Kohagaan
      @Kohagaan 8 місяців тому +2

      🍪+🍌

  • @narukami597
    @narukami597 8 місяців тому

    This tank is bad for people who don't have a lot of credits because intuition doesn't work well on autoreloader guns.

    • @RODI____
      @RODI____ 8 місяців тому

      I have only standard ammo in this tank. No gold nor HE.

    • @narukami597
      @narukami597 8 місяців тому

      ​@@RODI____ Well I for one am not ok with being unable to pen many of the tanks I face but you do you my guy.

  • @selby545
    @selby545 3 місяці тому

    very bad tank, one of the worst guns in the game, 0 pen 0 alpha 0 shell velocity, extremely slow for a medium, not worth it

  • @jeremymontgomery9354
    @jeremymontgomery9354 8 місяців тому

    Another day ignoring the new japanese tech tree 😑

    • @saked9125
      @saked9125 8 місяців тому +6

      These videos are prerecorded: Skill is on vacation.

    • @ashram772
      @ashram772 8 місяців тому +2

      he'll get to it in 2 weeks hahah