The REV Test: Electric cars. BMW i3s vs Kia Soul EV vs Renault Zoe
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Racing driver Vicki Butler-Henderson, Millennial Rachael Hogg, and mum Erin Baker (REV!) are testing three of the UK's most popular electric cars, based on how people search for them at Auto Trader.
They're looking at how easily they can fit into your lifestyle, covering practicality, connectivity, and ride and handling. And because they’re EVs, charging time, range, and the perils of range anxiety.
The three cars this week are the sporty and fun to drive BMW i3S, good all-rounder Renault Zoe, and quirky Kia Soul EV.
Which will come out on top?
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How much of my life am I going to spend charging? 99% of the time you will charge at home. It takes less than 5 minutes to open the nose take cable from boot and connect both ends. You then go into the house and do what you normally do. Next morning you reverse the process in about 5 minutes. In a normal week I spend about 10 minutes charging my car. The actual charge goes in whilst I'm doing the same things as most ICE drivers do. What's the fuss about.
About 30 secs max to connect
I could do it in 15 secs. Race you! :)
99.9 percent of the time is a slow trickle charge overnight at home for me. And for my lifestyle it works just fine.
This is the ideal setup, the problem I have is that we have no proper charging stations, so long distance driving (which is what I do a lot at work) isn't a good idea, until we do get proper charging stations, an electric car isn't a viable option yet.
Mini Cooper=YES, Kia Soul=YES , BMW I3=YES, VW ID3=YES , Zoe=NO!! ==> 0 point in CRASH-TEST Euro NCAP!! And boring design!
i mean 0-80% charge time should include what range you get at 80% as well.
A 22 kWh Zoe will take half the time to charge as the 40kwh Zoe but the 40kwh goes twice as far. Kind of a pointless test. It would be much more useful to state the output of the on-board charger is.
Conor Nugent usually 6-7kw from what i've seen. takes forever 😅
i would like to se car makers to list charge time for 100km range, thats sufficient to reach most places.
i saw some comments on the new Kona EV, people whined about the long 0-80% time yet they forget that's a 64kwh battery pack...
in short i want:
• time on the charge to reach (REAL range) 100km, ioniq for example has better charger than leaf
• range on 80% battery (since they tout 0-80%)
Yeah this review is a bit incomplete. First like u said, what is range at 80% (and the cost), second is peoples test in back, which should have been easy w three girls in the review, third; cargo test of course, and running costs of course.
miles added per hour of charge would be a informative measure.
Kia Soul EV is the cheapest to lease. By a long way. We love ours.
Years late to this review - and I have owned one of those Souls for nearly 2 years.
No mention of how spacious and how much headroom there is in the back of the Soul, the Zoe's interior looks like a Kangaroo's pouch in comparison; and the BMW rear is also less spacious.
As someone with major back issues, the Soul is also the nicest to get in and out of, of the various EVs in my (s/h) price range; with a reasonably high seating position for the driver; even with the seat in it's lowest position. (I am 6ft 6").
Finally, no mention of the hideous cost of replacement, skinny tyres for that i3; the Soul and Zoe are quite happy on standard tyres.
Kia did have to limit how much current a home charger could give out to the Soul though, the onboard charger (OBC) circuits were getting cooked and failing; so it was lowered to 6.4KW from 7KW via a software patch.
Despite the claimed lower resale value, it held on better and for longer than the other two; only really dropping below £10k in the last 12 months.
At 7.5 years old, my 2016 car's interior and exterior still look great; and the battery has only lost a tiny amount of capacity, 26.1KWh of the original 27KWh (30KWh was the later revision for 2017/18).
I have the old Zoe and even with the lower range, I wouldn’t call it a city car. It really works everywhere, but especially in the suburbs. With the 180-200 mile range I think it’s capable of almost anything you could ask of it.
The fossil Kia soul has been discontinued in Europe. So now there only the soul ev. Go Kia.
Not in the UK. There's the Soul 1,2,3 and Sport along with the EV.
Craig Brown I checked kia's website in a few countries it's gone entirely in Ireland ( because they never sold the ev ) and it's still up in the rest of Europe so we will see how long it takes for them finish selling the fossel soul.
These rev tests are so cool!!!!!
Honestly you guys this is 2018 the Zoe now has at least 120 miles range at motorways speeds and around 190 miles at normal everyday driving. Stop going on about range anxiety. Do agree with the comment about the infrastructure, it really needs to be PAYG.
Please, when showing charge times, just tell us miles per hour. Time to 80% doesn’t reveal much. 80% of an i3 is not the same as 80% of a Tesla. The battery size is extremely different.
They kept saying about the range dependent on passengers and whether the heating is on
But isn’t that the same for every car
You should have tested a LEAF as it's the best selling EV. Also most people change at home so every day leave with 100%, & as the average commute is about 30 there is no range anixity
Electric Dan can't wait form your battery to die. Nissan cheaped out and didn't even put a cooler on the batteries. Degradation happens fast. Enjoy
i'm about to sell my house and move to an apartment and take the cash towards an EV, so for me charging time is important :)
Kia must be 2nd as all 3 presenters bounced up and down in the BMW - 20 inch wheels 😭 - Kia has got to be the' most comfortable ' car !
Played the video saw Vicky smashed the subscribe button
Great to see you again Vicky, long time no see!!! I'd take the Zoe's range and exterior, mixed with the BMW interior
Do any of these have battery coolers to stop accelerated battery degradation? I know the Zoe doesn't
Blake Swan Zoe use A/C during quick charging session to prevent unusual battery degradation. It is not as great as liquid cooling but still does the job in most cases. I think the other two have liquid cooling.
Yay go Zoe... :) We had full faith you would win.. If you have a Zoe make sure you join the club RZOC..
Would've been disappointed if there wasn't a comment from you on here Craig! The ZOE whips these two easy :)
BMW don't half make ugly EV's
And when the time comes and two cars are virtually worthless because of rust, the i3 is still flawless.
Great video, thank you so much. I will go with the i3. Continue the great work.
i3 is awesome. Best used car purchase we have ever made and love driving it for any reason :)
Love your review , fun & to the point .. Best review!! 😘
Nicely side stepped the issue of the postage stamp for a boot on the I3.
260 litres is decent enough for most people carrying shopping and the odd city break trip to the airport
@@evilmario6061 your not even getting a family shop in there.
@@descb600f Yes Im!
Renault first and they prepare dozens electric vehicles for 2020. They will be leader. Renault invests 1 billion euros in its factories in 2018 to build new EV.
yes tesla is great
Hardly an everyman car the Tesla. Don't mention the Model 3 as it will be expensive v others by the time you see one for sale in the UK
nice review
I'd like to buy a Zoe but it's not available where I am
AWildBard let me guess you live in 🇺🇸
Close! but also far
I'm American, but I live in Korea. Samsung motors has a relationship with Renault, so it's possible they might offer it here next year.
Way too few ev's on second hand market, new they're way overpriced, issues with ev's also includes if break down can't be towed and small ev's can't tow cars on test quite nice but must come down in price also poor charging infrastructure in uk
Only recently looking at EV's here in the States, I was looking at the Kia Soul and didn't know they even had an EV. Learning what I have here I see more research is needed. Going to be living in LA and parking spaces aren't usually large. So, trying to get the best of both worlds.
Great review!
How much is the bmw when compared to the Zoė and soul? Surely that should be mentioned in this review and boot space is very important to most families. You looked at each isofix in the back so you were intending for families.
Didn’t test the Rex version of bmw. Also the i3 comes with three battery sizes. 60, 96 and 116 ah. The bigger sizes increases range by quite a bit.
i3 is funnest and to drive and is cool, the S model about 12000 pound more than the basic i3.
Renault
REV for TG
Electric cars.....came as a shock ! Well done girls
haha!
She's got a soothing voice and is a race car driver.
I fell in love with the three ones
I felt in love with the three ones
Sadly, Zoe isn't in the USA, or I'd look at getting one.. Any idea if they plan to come to the states?
import 1 from the uk
UK is RHD so import from any other European country perhaps, but Donald will slap a lot of tariffs on it and the plug probably won't fit the socket :-)
KIA E SOUL IS A SUPER CAR AND WINNER. IDRIVE ONE. EVERY DAY SMILE IN MY FACE.
No eating in the car!
I am 6'5" can I fit into a Zoe?? Trying to decide between a Zoe and Bolt.., +Auto Trader
i3 is best for tall drivers.
C Grier I recently had the chance to sit in a Tesla Model 3 and still had plenty of room.
I'm just shy of 6'1" and there's room for me in the front and back of the i3. I recommend sitting in one, as you did the Model 3.
C Grier I’ll make sure to check it out. Thanks.
where is a tesla
Nikki?!
Really high quality review this one. Excellent you showed proper ranges in the graphics and made and emphasised the point in discussion. 👍Your also relaxing into the fun side of the presentation and getting into your strides😃 So then what nearly new supercars are people searching for on AutoTrader 🤣 Also nothing to do with cars just thought you might find it interesting ..... i’m in no way suggesting a new presentation format but this Podcast is refreshingly different once you have got over the initial giggles and it maximises the medium shall we say 🤣 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p063wfw6
Ok ladies, let’s have some transparency here. Your lady Erin known as Mother on this video is otherwise known as Erin Baker, Editorial Director of Autotrader and I have just watched another video where she is putting people off buying an EV at this time. (Based on the lack of infrastructure - hmmm) See video Electric Cars- time to buy one. Published 30 Aug 18 see time 5.37 on the video. Yes Erin maybe a mother BUT she has a vested interest in the motor Industry and this should have been made clear! In addition Rachel Hogg also works for autotrader and again it was not mentioned that this ‘Millennial’ has a vested interest in the motor industry. The perception I took from this video is that both ladies are normal run of the mill women giving a lay person opinion. Tut tut - The REV test
Clem Craven umm, these 3 are car reviewers - their little by-lines are I guess a way of telling us what viewpoint they’re coming from. They were also clearly critical in this video of lack of infrastructure being a hindrance to EVs. What are their ‘vested interests’? Are they shareholders in Renault?!
Jesus Christ this is BORING as sin Id rather WALK
I3 looks the best specially interior, I hate Renault cars they like to have shiny cheaply plastic on the dash or around the touchscreens it's horrid. And the Kia looks totally vile
Bmw car club look afer the Brilliant i3
Reference to a well known site recording registered cars on UK roads shows 9099 i3, 5751 Zoe and only 465 Soul EV's. I guess it's all about brand as well as the environment?
Paul Abel do you have a link to that site?
It appears to be this one, which gives a figure of 465 Kia Soul EVs registered in *2017*.
www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=kia+soul+ev
the8ctagon - yes, that's the site, but the 465 figure is the total number of registered cars on the UK roads since sales commenced in 2013. you can click on the figure to see how the registrations grow each quarter of each year. You can also see the number SORN.
No ioniq and no leaf
Thought we’d got rid of vbh why has she been rehashed for this platform? Let’s see more new talent for UA-cam not old has been vbh. The way she says thwotle makes me cringe
who else disliked due to the 3rd wave feminist propaganda in this video and the short unnecessary 💇
Just you