Thanks for sharing your results, starting at 2:07! This is the exact fightstick model (Madcatz SF4 TE) I own for PS3. I hated using it on PS4, because you had to also have your PS4 controller on at the same time with the fightstick plugged in. Plus, my PS4 controller would turn off automatically after 10 mins as a power saving function.
PSA: Hitbox has confirmed that the Cross-Up is now compatible with the WingmanFGC. I had a very early product sample without the latest firmware during the making of this video. Also now available on Brook’s Amazon shop: amzn.to/3oBfv77
Can you use two Brooks simultaneously for the second player? Let me clarify I want to build an arcade machine and I want to use two arcade controllers for both players can I use a second brook device for the second controller
2:41 I wasn't able to get the Brook Retro Board to work with the Wingman FGC. I'm going to retry the Retro Board with the Wingman FGC on the PlayStation 5. I just tested it on the PlayStation 4 with the retro board and got it to work, so it makes no sense for it to not also work on the PlayStation 5.
Tito Joe Knee hitting us up with the Brook tech news... The Sega Saturn tribute controller was definitely the "wtf I can't believe this worked" moment.😂😂😂
I am definitely adding this to my collection as I prefer custom controllers that use different PCBs. Also at that price I don't need to buy individual UP5 daughter boards for each UFB I have (already own 2). I am also glad it works with the pico board as my travel size mixbox uses a pico board and I normally bring the ps4 wingman to use it on the PS4 and now I can bring the fgc one. Also I love that they call it the wingman fgc and embrace that branding for the community.
I already have two of my stickless controllers that work flawlessly on my PS5, the new 2023 model of the Snack Box Micro, and the Hori Real Arcade Pro N, but I’m still going to cop this because Brook makes quality products and I would like to have this just to test out my controllers on my PS5.
Awesome.. still have 2 fightsticks hanging around as "decor" from PS3 days.. was thinking of upgrading the motherboard at first, but this seems to be the better option and possible success rate in having those working, I'll be looking into scooping this up in the near future.
Now let's see if Sony is going to continue their cat'n'mouse game of issuing Playstation updates that block Brook products and require firmware updates by Brook like they did on PS4.
It’s just business. Sony obviously has an intrest in people buying Playstation controllers and Playstation licensed products. So businesses like Brook has to play catch up and there’s no changing that situation.
@@frankbauerful Nintendo is the 100x more overprotective and anal about their IP than Sony and MS. It's just this one thing Nintendo isn't bitchin' about :)
It's gonna be interesting since they now own EVO and they explicitly allow Brook Adapters to be used in the tournament rules (as in they refer to them by name).
not too sure why mine wasn’t working, maybe it has to do with the different modes you can set the crossup to. It’s still very early and I’m sure they are fine tuning the firmware
Nice! Not sure if the raspberry pico results cover this question, but should this be compatible with PCBs running GP2040? Like the Flatbox rev 4 for example? Excited to grab my own when this comes in!
Thank you!! I missed out on getting the internal PS5 pcb for the og snackbox micro and it's a big ??? as to when they'll be back in stock, so I'm happy to hear this is a great option for ultra low latency connectivity to PS5! Be well! -KPB|Camyoin
Bro I'm mad happy that brook listen to us son this video confirmed I kept sending emails to them like they need to do a converter for people that don't have the money to buy new arcades next to play on PS5 It's not fair that everybody has to just jump right over and buy a new stick I mean there's options but they're not cheap so when I seen this that's definitely confirms that they were listening to me and to others thanks a lot for this vid JF
Do you know how many milliseconds of input lag does this device add to the controller? I know you said its not noticable but I would like to see the numbers
This is what I am looking for 2. Trying to decide whether to buy an all button controller and use this as it’s cheaper and more options or one with the UFB-UP5 board in it. I know gp2040 and UFB are all
It should, but they’ve optimized it since launch so I would still make sure it’s running on the latest firmware. Also a version 2 is dropping soon that supports all ps5 games (not just fighters).
Fraze have you tried it on pc? and see if all your controllers work on it? some websites say it works for pc too as xinput. Do a video on it if it works.
I have a slight issue. I'm using an Xbox one controller to play mk1 and it was fine. But suddenly today the left start button now opens up screenshot instead of mimicking the touchpad like on the ps5. In the game it's used to reset training mode. Any advice on a fix for this as it was fine before today and can't seem to find a fix. Thank you.
@@jonyfraze I got into contact with them and it seems I hit the Xbox button + Y which turns off the touchpad emulation on the view button. Xbox button + A fixed it. So now it's been working fine with both my Xbox one and series x controller 🤙
Hello good evening, I have a hori alpha xbox controller, I'm using this adapter, but the touch button is missing, because the xbox arcade doesn't have it.
Will I be able to use the Wingman FGC on a PS4 too? I got a gp2040 based hitbox and I can't use that on a PS4, so it will be cool if this is a single solution for PS5/PS4
So, as somebody brand new to this whole scene, would I be able to buy an older/cheaper/PC buttonbox and use this converter to make it work for SF6? The PS5 versions of hitboxes is $240-$300, I'm not trying to pay all that at least not right now as my first controller.
Hey Dom. I’m in the same situation as you. Considering getting a pc button box (as they are cheaper) and using the wingman fgc stick. Did you try this out? Any updates? Thanks ✌🏽
@@milanmody12 the wingman isn't available for purchase yet :( But I will almost undoubtedly buy a PC version controller since those ones tend to be the cheapest and get the converter once it's possible
@@Gr33nPhoenix nice, so confirming that the logic works, that’s my biggest thing before I spend the money. That the pc version of a buttonbox will be good enough and not need the ps4 version as minimum to use the stick. Good luck and keep me update!
Remember the wingman fgc is only for fighting games. The wingman emulates approved “legacy” Fightsticks and not a genuine ps5 controller. So developers have to allow “legacy” controller compatibility in order to for the wingman fgc to work.
@@jonyfraze yeah I was reading on that. I also heard the limitation is because the PS5 games have a haptic feedback Check that only the PS5 controller has and since there is no alternate PS5 controller that isn't made from Sony, they can't take that firmware and put it into the converter.
Thanks for this! This will come in handy for whenever I use a PS3 stick on my PS5! Will this allow sticks that require a controller to be connected to the stick (i.e. MayFlash, MadCatz (EGO and TE3), and PXN) to bypass that restriction?
Is it true there’s no analog stick support on Xbox series x controller? I preordered already for my hitbox but there’s no way I want to get used to that dpad.
Brooke converters are crazy man, i got one with a PS3 TE fightstick and i've been having more fun dicking around with the converter than actually using the stick LOL, Logitech Chillstream? Works. Wierd bootleg PS2 to PS3 converter with a stinky bootleg PS2 cont? no problem. Wii Classic controller > Wii mote > 8Bitdo adapter > Wingman? somehow still works like a charm.
So what exactly is the difference between this and the XE 2? I've tested it on both the PS5 and PS4 with numerous different controllers and had pretty much no issues. What advantage does this have? Is it just more fightstick/hitbox compatibility or something?
Jonyfraze always has the best fgc related tech videos. I'm definitely buying one of these.
awesome video , straight to the point and the testing of the peripherals on point.
I appreciate the quick intro and right to the good stuff too.
Awesome! I was hoping for something to get my 1st gen snackbox micro. Thanks Fraze for trying it out!
I got to give you props for this. The Nintendo Switch controllers was the look for me.
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Thanks for sharing your results, starting at 2:07! This is the exact fightstick model (Madcatz SF4 TE) I own for PS3.
I hated using it on PS4, because you had to also have your PS4 controller on at the same time with the fightstick plugged in.
Plus, my PS4 controller would turn off automatically after 10 mins as a power saving function.
Excited!! Can't wait to pick this up
PSA: Hitbox has confirmed that the Cross-Up is now compatible with the WingmanFGC. I had a very early product sample without the latest firmware during the making of this video. Also now available on Brook’s Amazon shop: amzn.to/3oBfv77
Was this the ps5 version of kof15 I have a nacon controller is it gonna work
Cool
Nice
Nice
Can you use two Brooks simultaneously for the second player? Let me clarify I want to build an arcade machine and I want to use two arcade controllers for both players can I use a second brook device for the second controller
Very informative. Especially glad to know that this works with the Hori FC4.
2:41 I wasn't able to get the Brook Retro Board to work with the Wingman FGC.
I'm going to retry the Retro Board with the Wingman FGC on the PlayStation 5. I just tested it on the PlayStation 4 with the retro board and got it to work, so it makes no sense for it to not also work on the PlayStation 5.
It's honestly fantastic
Tito Joe Knee hitting us up with the Brook tech news...
The Sega Saturn tribute controller was definitely the "wtf I can't believe this worked" moment.😂😂😂
Damn indeed. That means I can use a Sega Saturn controller on this thing. Possibly the best D Pad of all time. This is a day one purchase for me
I am definitely adding this to my collection as I prefer custom controllers that use different PCBs. Also at that price I don't need to buy individual UP5 daughter boards for each UFB I have (already own 2). I am also glad it works with the pico board as my travel size mixbox uses a pico board and I normally bring the ps4 wingman to use it on the PS4 and now I can bring the fgc one. Also I love that they call it the wingman fgc and embrace that branding for the community.
I already have two of my stickless controllers that work flawlessly on my PS5, the new 2023 model of the Snack Box Micro, and the Hori Real Arcade Pro N, but I’m still going to cop this because Brook makes quality products and I would like to have this just to test out my controllers on my PS5.
Sold. Coming in the mail. Thanks
just had my Wingman arrive and it worked perfectly on my old fightstick with the original PS3 Brook PCB.
Awesome.. still have 2 fightsticks hanging around as "decor" from PS3 days.. was thinking of upgrading the motherboard at first, but this seems to be the better option and possible success rate in having those working, I'll be looking into scooping this up in the near future.
Much easier too than opening it up and all that.
Very informative. Thank you.
might need to get one if this will work with my hitbox running a zero pi
Now let's see if Sony is going to continue their cat'n'mouse game of issuing Playstation updates that block Brook products and require firmware updates by Brook like they did on PS4.
It’s just business. Sony obviously has an intrest in people buying Playstation controllers and Playstation licensed products.
So businesses like Brook has to play catch up and there’s no changing that situation.
@@epicon6 Microsoft isn't being so aggressive and Nintendo doesn't try to prevent 3rd party devices at all. Sony is uniquely being shitty here.
@@frankbauerful Nintendo is the 100x more overprotective and anal about their IP than Sony and MS. It's just this one thing Nintendo isn't bitchin' about :)
It's gonna be interesting since they now own EVO and they explicitly allow Brook Adapters to be used in the tournament rules (as in they refer to them by name).
Don't know if it has been already addressed, but the video is unlisted. Great video, didn't expect the Saturn to actually work, nice surprise there.
Yeah it’s by design, Brook wants it to release publicly at a certain time.
Great...i just recently place my order for Up5, an adapter to play Ps5 natively for Brook Universal Fightboard.
Thanks for sharing the good news! :)
I missed the opportunity to pre-order CrossUp. I feel lucky that I did.😂
Thank you, this is amazing!
Sick video. I didn't know brook adapters worked with PC only sticks
So it works with fightsticks that only works on PC too?
Definitely buying this
Yaaaaaaaaaaaay. I've got every ps4 stick and I definitely wanna keep using em on my ps5 without swapping pcbs. Dope
Will Brook FGC compatible with controllers like PS3? 3:19
I just seen a Twitter Post from Brook with the HitBox Crossup working on multiple PS5 games.
not too sure why mine wasn’t working, maybe it has to do with the different modes you can set the crossup to. It’s still very early and I’m sure they are fine tuning the firmware
@@jonyfraze hopefully it was a firmware issue. I can't wait for this to come out. 👍👍
My dream is to use the Manbaone controller on my ps5 via wingman adapter for ps4 games.
Why does this video not show up in search results or your main channel feed?
Yeah it’s by design, Brook wants it to release publicly at a certain time.
@@jonyfraze 👍👍👍👍👍
Nice! Not sure if the raspberry pico results cover this question, but should this be compatible with PCBs running GP2040? Like the Flatbox rev 4 for example? Excited to grab my own when this comes in!
Yeah the pico runs off that firmware if I’m not mistaken.
@@jonyfraze great to hear! Thanks for the quick response and awesome vid! Fun to see some parts of your collection as well 🙏
I want to ask, this is for PS5 only or can I use it on PS4 as well?
Works on ps4
This is just what I am looking for! I have a stick with an old Brook P3/P4 pcb in and have been worried I'm going to have to buy a brand new stick.
Fraze doing the lords work
Will this work on the Brooks ps4 AUdio fight board i used it to make a Hitbox 3:41
Yeah just not wirelessly
Great video 💪
Wingman is compatible with the panel 2 player behind you ? I have a Xinmotek controller bus stick, should be great if it works with them
It only works for 1 player.
@@jonyfraze 1 player on 2 players panel ?
Thx
@@bernardpeur1802 One Wingman per Player. You cannot plug a 2 player controller into the wingman.
@@jonyfraze thx alot
@jonyfraze with the retrobit saturn pad u tested did u have to remap any buttons
No but since there’s no “home” button you have to press the combo command
For some reason when i press the c button it doesnt hit heavy punch it seems like certain things werent mapped correctly
So pumped for this. Appreciate the update man 😊
Thank you!! I missed out on getting the internal PS5 pcb for the og snackbox micro and it's a big ??? as to when they'll be back in stock, so I'm happy to hear this is a great option for ultra low latency connectivity to PS5! Be well! -KPB|Camyoin
I was looking to see if the MadKatz controller worked……and it does!!! 😮😊
Bro I'm mad happy that brook listen to us son this video confirmed I kept sending emails to them like they need to do a converter for people that don't have the money to buy new arcades next to play on PS5 It's not fair that everybody has to just jump right over and buy a new stick I mean there's options but they're not cheap so when I seen this that's definitely confirms that they were listening to me and to others thanks a lot for this vid JF
I also have a TE Madcatz fight stick but my brook is solid red lights how do I fix it
Try updating the firmware. If that doesn’t work contact Brook.
Thanks dude !! This is exactly the video I was looking for.
I have a mayflash f500 elite and just use a magic system pro ultimate for ps5
Do you know how many milliseconds of input lag does this device add to the controller? I know you said its not noticable but I would like to see the numbers
This is what I am looking for 2.
Trying to decide whether to buy an all button controller and use this as it’s cheaper and more options or one with the UFB-UP5 board in it.
I know gp2040 and UFB are all
1.3ms with latest tournament mode firmware
Does the converter work straight out of the box, or did you have to connect it to a pc to firmware update it??
It should, but they’ve optimized it since launch so I would still make sure it’s running on the latest firmware. Also a version 2 is dropping soon that supports all ps5 games (not just fighters).
@@jonyfraze
Thanks for the speedy reply, much appreciated.
Just to clarify this would be compatible with the wireless fight board as well as long as I'm wired?
Yes
@@jonyfraze gratitude as always there has never been a question you did not answer 🙏🏿 🐐'd
Fraze have you tried it on pc? and see if all your controllers work on it? some websites say it works for pc too as xinput.
Do a video on it if it works.
Yes works on pc as xinput
My converter wont even turn on, let alone connect to my ps4 controller annoying
Contact Brook, they should be able to take care of that for you.
@jonyfraze i got it to work
It works with the generic zero delay board?
Does this work for most controllers?
Or just for specific ones?
Or just fighting sticks?
Wondering if I can use multiple, third party controllers.
Or just certain ones
They just dropped a new one with support for 150 controllers. Full list is on their website: www.brookaccessory.com/products/wingmanfgc2/index.html
Does Mixbox work with the Wingman FGC converter?
yes because they are using Brook PCBs internally.
Can you check if the Mortal Kombat 9 arcade stick for ps3 works with MK11 ps5 version? thanks
I don’t own it sorry
@@jonyfraze ok thanks
Do you need one wingman per controller or can you use a usb splitter when playing with two controllers for local vs battle?
One per controller.
@@jonyfraze thanks bro 😎
Just wanna get this straight before I buy one. An Xbox Controller worked perfectly fine on a PS5?
Yes. I used a series s controller and my older madcatz 360 pad
I have a slight issue. I'm using an Xbox one controller to play mk1 and it was fine. But suddenly today the left start button now opens up screenshot instead of mimicking the touchpad like on the ps5. In the game it's used to reset training mode. Any advice on a fix for this as it was fine before today and can't seem to find a fix. Thank you.
Try reflashing the firmware. There’s also a way to remap the buttons. Check the Brook website for details.
@@jonyfraze I got into contact with them and it seems I hit the Xbox button + Y which turns off the touchpad emulation on the view button.
Xbox button + A fixed it. So now it's been working fine with both my Xbox one and series x controller 🤙
@@investedwearefitness1279nice! Thanks for the info.
I'm glad you commented that. Using the Xbox one controller on the PS5 is exactly what I'm buying this for.
For mk1, at that lol
That’s cool for the non modders or Xbox console users
Great video! I was wondering when they were gonna release the PS5 version
Keep In mind this is for fighting games only
@@jonyfraze oh I know! I got the ps4 version still on my PS3 marvel vs Capcom 2 te stick lol I just went and upgrade to the obsidian stick.
This adaptor works with the Haute 42 Hitboxes?
Should work on the pass through slot for sure as well as a standard adapter
Hello good evening, I have a hori alpha xbox controller, I'm using this adapter, but the touch button is missing, because the xbox arcade doesn't have it.
But this new realease also goes on ps4 and pc,right?
Yes
Some reason my Blue Xbox Series X/S is not working at all with the adapter. Just blue blinking on the converter. Any clue why?
The Wingman FGC is wired only. So make sure it’s connected to via the cable. Try updating the firmware?
Firmware updated but still having issues with it connecting. Possibly Microsoft/brooks removed the support? @@jonyfraze
Did you get a chance to test brook wireless fighting board(wired)
Yes it works
I wonder if it work with diy fighting sticks
It should depending on what PCB you use.
the dual shock 4 does work wireless
Not when connected to the wingman fgc. There no bluetooth connectivity in the Wingman FGC and cant be paired to it.
When does this drop?
I was ready to order one but the wireless one in development you mention at 1:48 is worth the wait for me.
Wired better nah for less input lag
My Q4raf doesn’t work :[
Will I be able to use the Wingman FGC on a PS4 too? I got a gp2040 based hitbox and I can't use that on a PS4, so it will be cool if this is a single solution for PS5/PS4
Yes
Madcatz fightstick pro working with wingman?
Yes all madcatz sticks from 360/ps3+ Gen work
@@jonyfraze thanks, i will go route conversion kit to hitbox layout and wingman.
When is this coming out?
Preorders are in the description links
Does this support keyboard as well?
No
Hi, I got a Brook FGC, but my Retro-Bit Saturn pad is not connecting to my PS5 what should do?
Use the command for “home”. From my memory I believe the start button becomes the shift key.
Brook always comes through clutch. 💯
What about with a zero delay board?
Haven’t personally tested but I’ve heard some reports it does work
hi, this key work with the leverless stick RAC J800B ??
I believe it does
Does your Pico board run on GP2040-CE?
Yes
@@jonyfraze Awesome news, thank you for the reply!
Does the PS4 Controller (DS4) left stick work on the PS5 FGC Games ?
Sup Lionheart, yes the analog directions work. Just Tested on KOF15 for you.
Nice thanks !
Doesn't the magic pro s do the same thing?
No clue but Brook is the only converters allowed in major tournaments
@@jonyfraze oh wow for real? I didn't know that. Shit I'ma have to grab one now🤔. Thanks for the info👍
Can you plug a Keyboard to this adapter and then remap it? So that for example I press A it would register as Square?
Not 100% sure but I’m leaning towards no.
dose it also works for fightbox pc series?
Haven’t tested but I believe so.
So, as somebody brand new to this whole scene, would I be able to buy an older/cheaper/PC buttonbox and use this converter to make it work for SF6? The PS5 versions of hitboxes is $240-$300, I'm not trying to pay all that at least not right now as my first controller.
Might be a good move.
Hey Dom. I’m in the same situation as you. Considering getting a pc button box (as they are cheaper) and using the wingman fgc stick. Did you try this out? Any updates? Thanks ✌🏽
@@milanmody12 the wingman isn't available for purchase yet :(
But I will almost undoubtedly buy a PC version controller since those ones tend to be the cheapest and get the converter once it's possible
@@Gr33nPhoenix nice, so confirming that the logic works, that’s my biggest thing before I spend the money. That the pc version of a buttonbox will be good enough and not need the ps4 version as minimum to use the stick. Good luck and keep me update!
@@Gr33nPhoenixdoes it work for a PC or switch version as well?
Mine was working fine up until I realized there’s no touchpad on my fightstick.
try hitting share, brook usually maps TP to share for their converters
It's still not working for some reason. Switched to an Xbox One controller to check and that didn't solve anything either. @@jonyfraze
Hey Jony, how did you get the PS4 controller to work.
I cant get it to work with PS5 games as this was my intention
Remember the wingman fgc is only for fighting games. The wingman emulates approved “legacy” Fightsticks and not a genuine ps5 controller. So developers have to allow “legacy” controller compatibility in order to for the wingman fgc to work.
@@jonyfraze yeah I was reading on that. I also heard the limitation is because the PS5 games have a haptic feedback Check that only the PS5 controller has and since there is no alternate PS5 controller that isn't made from Sony, they can't take that firmware and put it into the converter.
Thanks for this! This will come in handy for whenever I use a PS3 stick on my PS5!
Will this allow sticks that require a controller to be connected to the stick (i.e. MayFlash, MadCatz (EGO and TE3), and PXN) to bypass that restriction?
Does it works with the Mayflash f300 elite ?
Yes it should
Praise Da Lordddd.... i was waiting so patiently
The brook work on PS4 console? so a XE replacement?
Not an XE replacement since its only rated to work with Fighting Games. Brook hinted they are continuing to work on a full featured ps5 wingman.
Is it true there’s no analog stick support on Xbox series x controller? I preordered already for my hitbox but there’s no way I want to get used to that dpad.
Anyone know if the betop thorn work on ps5 using this? I really like the look of that fightpad
Mine just blinks red no matter what i plug into it
Try resetting the firmware, if that doesnt work might have to contact brook for support.
Yeah I actually updated firmware a few hours after posting the comment and it works fine now 🙌
@@syroco nice! glad you got it back up and running
Brooke converters are crazy man, i got one with a PS3 TE fightstick and i've been having more fun dicking around with the converter than actually using the stick LOL,
Logitech Chillstream? Works. Wierd bootleg PS2 to PS3 converter with a stinky bootleg PS2 cont? no problem. Wii Classic controller > Wii mote > 8Bitdo adapter > Wingman? somehow still works like a charm.
That’s crazy.
Does this only work on fighting games only? What about other genre of games like FPS games etc
Games that require ps5 dual sense 5 specific features will not work. It depends if the developer enables a lockout or not for legacy controllers.
ps4 madcatz shadaloo street fighter 5 version works?
The TES+? If so yes.
Could you please tell me if it works for Mortal Kombat 1?
yes it does.
So what exactly is the difference between this and the XE 2? I've tested it on both the PS5 and PS4 with numerous different controllers and had pretty much no issues. What advantage does this have? Is it just more fightstick/hitbox compatibility or something?
You can’t play PS5 games with the XE2, only PS4 titles running on the PS5.
@@jonyfraze Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
Thist converter works with the Brook UFB???
Yep