Great video! One note on minivans which used plastic panels: it was GM who used plastic panels on the “Dustbuster” vans from 1990 till the end of the production run. Chevy Lumina APV, Pontiac TranSport, Olds Silhouette.
Body side inner is steel as well. Reason for the plastic is the feasibility for the rear quater a fender. Small light design is not possible in alu or steel.
I can tell you that I’ve owned 4 cars in my short life (all new) and at the time of purchase they all had issues with panel gaps. I noticed because I’m a bit of a neat freak and can spot a line that’s not straight from afar. This was never a huge issue until the age of social media and a new Electric car (Tesla) started competing with Legacy auto and all of a sudden it’s “look at that bad panel gap”. I’ve seen uneven panel gaps on Benz and Lamborghinis. What we must ensure is that the structural integrity of a 🚗 is sound and that it’s not gonna fall apart… I was rooting for Fisker this time around. Fingers crossed for Lucid Motors and every other startup. ✌🏾
For EVs like Fisker that's bankrupt, how do you get parts for them? If so, what are the common parts that may be available? I'm thinking that the suppliers won't make parts for them anymore unless there's excess inventory from unused ones that would have been used to manufacture them.
I spent about 6 months investigating EVs vs. hybrid, vs. ICE. I have not YET bought an Ocean but considering it, "sort of". What I did buy is a 2020 BMW i3s REX. With the state of, or horrible state of, commercial charging stations the REX, my opinion, was the way to go. I can get 170 miles per charge, assuming no huge elevations at 75mph with the AC blasting. AND, zero range anxiety. Example: My wife and I took a trip Phoenix to LA. 2 charging stations between, both Electrify America. This was 3 years ago when Electrify America was 24 cents/kWh now it's 54 or 56 cent/kWh so an ICE car that gets 30mpg is more economical vs. electric. 3 years ago coming back was an obstacle. The first Electrify America, of course 2 of the 6 were down, the 4 were full with a 3 car wait. I did hack the i3 so you can turn on the REX, scooter engine that runs on 2.2 gallons of gas that runs a generator to maintain the high voltage state of charge for 80 miles, I hacked it so it can be turned on at any state of charge below 75%. So, rather than wait in line I pressed the REX. Got to the next charging set of stations and 4 car wait. I topped off with gas and kept going to reach home. So, I have the pleasures of a pure EV with a backup system just in case. In fact, on any longer trips that burn through the electric, with the prices at Electrify America being outrageous and their lack of maintenance I just run it at 30% EV charge and click on the REX. Going uphill at 75 mph with the AC blasting it will loose about 7-8% battery level as the REX can't keep up, down hill regen gets it all back plus some extra. So, you have to be smart about it, and I am. As for the Ocean, I'm considering the risk vs, how much I like the looks and performance vs. current prices. Just still unsure.
With the back quarter panel removed and the doggie window actuator exposed it should be possible to get the current needed for the actuator and run a switch to bypass the need for using the FAST tool to recalibrate and run them with a switch to power them.
Fisker dead, Faraday dead, Nikola dead, Canoo dead, Lucid insignificant, Rivian struggling. Seems to me EV only manufacturers are the only ones going bankrupt, and these EV clowns have delusional dreams that "legacy" manufacturers are going to be replaced by these dead EV companies 😂😂😂😂😂
They had to learn very quickly about spring back when stamping panels and aluminium is extremely difficult the panels were already out of shape before being fitted
It’s ok man, multiple comments on a video just because he mentioned “they’re probably done” isn’t going to help Fisker stay alive. I have an Ocean and every day I hope to hear some company will buy in and provide that cash infusion, but for now we have to assume the worst because nothing has gone in their favor
Why would anybody now own a Fisker? The company is bankrupt. The husband and wife have basically single-handedly destroyed the company along with its share price and billions of dollars in shareholder value down the drain. I can’t imagine why anyone would want one of these.
Might make a good collector car, but not with my money, I wonder how the Fisker Karma is doing in holding up its value. I always thought that Henrik was a bad new car salesman and bad as a used car salesman too.
Wow that's great you don't seem deterred all. I don't have one but thank you for supporting that community.
Great video! One note on minivans which used plastic panels: it was GM who used plastic panels on the “Dustbuster” vans from 1990 till the end of the production run. Chevy Lumina APV, Pontiac TranSport, Olds Silhouette.
Body side inner is steel as well. Reason for the plastic is the feasibility for the rear quater a fender. Small light design is not possible in alu or steel.
I can tell you that I’ve owned 4 cars in my short life (all new) and at the time of purchase they all had issues with panel gaps. I noticed because I’m a bit of a neat freak and can spot a line that’s not straight from afar. This was never a huge issue until the age of social media and a new Electric car (Tesla) started competing with Legacy auto and all of a sudden it’s “look at that bad panel gap”. I’ve seen uneven panel gaps on Benz and Lamborghinis. What we must ensure is that the structural integrity of a 🚗 is sound and that it’s not gonna fall apart… I was rooting for Fisker this time around. Fingers crossed for Lucid Motors and every other startup. ✌🏾
absolutely .
For EVs like Fisker that's bankrupt, how do you get parts for them? If so, what are the common parts that may be available? I'm thinking that the suppliers won't make parts for them anymore unless there's excess inventory from unused ones that would have been used to manufacture them.
Just buy a second one as a parts car.
I spent about 6 months investigating EVs vs. hybrid, vs. ICE. I have not YET bought an Ocean but considering it, "sort of". What I did buy is a 2020 BMW i3s REX. With the state of, or horrible state of, commercial charging stations the REX, my opinion, was the way to go. I can get 170 miles per charge, assuming no huge elevations at 75mph with the AC blasting. AND, zero range anxiety. Example: My wife and I took a trip Phoenix to LA. 2 charging stations between, both Electrify America. This was 3 years ago when Electrify America was 24 cents/kWh now it's 54 or 56 cent/kWh so an ICE car that gets 30mpg is more economical vs. electric. 3 years ago coming back was an obstacle. The first Electrify America, of course 2 of the 6 were down, the 4 were full with a 3 car wait. I did hack the i3 so you can turn on the REX, scooter engine that runs on 2.2 gallons of gas that runs a generator to maintain the high voltage state of charge for 80 miles, I hacked it so it can be turned on at any state of charge below 75%. So, rather than wait in line I pressed the REX. Got to the next charging set of stations and 4 car wait. I topped off with gas and kept going to reach home. So, I have the pleasures of a pure EV with a backup system just in case. In fact, on any longer trips that burn through the electric, with the prices at Electrify America being outrageous and their lack of maintenance I just run it at 30% EV charge and click on the REX. Going uphill at 75 mph with the AC blasting it will loose about 7-8% battery level as the REX can't keep up, down hill regen gets it all back plus some extra. So, you have to be smart about it, and I am. As for the Ocean, I'm considering the risk vs, how much I like the looks and performance vs. current prices. Just still unsure.
With the back quarter panel removed and the doggie window actuator exposed it should be possible to get the current needed for the actuator and run a switch to bypass the need for using the FAST tool to recalibrate and run them with a switch to power them.
Hmm, need to look around for large scale format 3d printing.
Not an aluminum hood, it can hold a magnet.
Fisker dead, Faraday dead, Nikola dead, Canoo dead, Lucid insignificant, Rivian struggling. Seems to me EV only manufacturers are the only ones going bankrupt, and these EV clowns have delusional dreams that "legacy" manufacturers are going to be replaced by these dead EV companies 😂😂😂😂😂
Why has Tesla historicaly had so many problems with panel gaps whereas it seems other more established manufacturers have not?
I suspect it just wasn't a priority. I'm glad they focus on Supercharger Network, efficiency, FSD etc
People buy them anyway so Tesla doesn't care enough to fix them. Additionally, many Tesla buyers come from cheaper cars and don't know any better
@@harry-eto probably but I'd like to understand the technical reason
@@ThEReAlBlAyDe agree. Not debating that. Just wondering what is different in the design and build that leads to seemingly more panel gap issues
They had to learn very quickly about spring back when stamping panels and aluminium is extremely difficult the panels were already out of shape before being fitted
Funny how people leave out the one critical word
BANKRUPTCY "PROTECTION"
who here thinks Fisker and investors dont have a 10 year plan ???
It’s ok man, multiple comments on a video just because he mentioned “they’re probably done” isn’t going to help Fisker stay alive. I have an Ocean and every day I hope to hear some company will buy in and provide that cash infusion, but for now we have to assume the worst because nothing has gone in their favor
@@boscoblack This and same
FISTER delivers the FISTING . Yeap my FISTER is now a driveway ornament till I can get a tech to get it running 😂. F I S T E R
Body panels the least of this car’s problems.
They are in protection and its not over yet
Repair cost would be 1/3 great designers and engineers
Why would anybody now own a Fisker? The company is bankrupt. The husband and wife have basically single-handedly destroyed the company along with its share price and billions of dollars in shareholder value down the drain. I can’t imagine why anyone would want one of these.
Price? If you can get one for 20k that might be something worth buying if you are ok with a lot of uncertainty.
Might make a good collector car, but not with my money, I wonder how the Fisker Karma is doing in holding up its value. I always thought that Henrik was a bad new car salesman and bad as a used car salesman too.
Let’s wait 10 years fisker will bring another failure.
Buy Aptera😂
Great comment. The mysterious Aptera Vaporware.