How to Depressurize your Delonghi Dedica for free! EC685 EC785 EC885
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- The Delonghi Dedica EC685 comes with pressurized espresso filter baskets. In this video, I show how to despressurize them with a 1/8" drill bit, to allow a non-pressurized espresso extraction. This is a very easy mod to do, and can help to get a better extraction with minimal effort. Just be aware that once you depressurize, you will need to grind finer.
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If you don't have a drill bit to make a hole likes what Tom did professionally, you can also do that by hammering a nail through. But to make the job easier, a smaller diameter nail should be used first, then making the hole bigger by using a bigger diameter one. Placing the cup on a piece of wood with the bowl facing upwards, then hammer the nail down (This is to prevent the cup from being dented if bowl facing downwards) and any protruding burrs outside the bowl can be smoothed out easily by using a simple file or a dremel (if you have one).
Muchas gracias. Con este video, me contestas a una pregunta que te había hecho en otro. Perfecto, probaré tu consejo.
I'm a big of fan of your videos, and have learnt alot of you 😍, You do it as a such easy way
Thanks so much for your feedback, ATM. I do appreciate it!🙋♂️
I just bought the Delonghi Dedica. I ordered a distribution tool from Amazon and waiting for it to arrive. I would love the basket too. I'm in Cape Town, South Africa. love your videos! You're doing a great job!
Hey Joanna, thanks for watching, and for your comment! I actually selected a winner a couple days ago. Shoot. You don't have Amazon down there, do you? What online retailer do you use? I could point you in the direction of a good basket.
Btw, I think it's so cool, to reach someone in South Africa!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner hi. I ordered from UK Amazon and my friend will fly here next month and deliver it to me. We normally use Takealot or Yuppiechef here as online stores. But they don't have those baskets
@@rademenes80 Ah very nice. Thanks for sharing! I will have to check out those stores out of curiosity. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner multiple people.
Thank you so much for this idea if it works so well.
This looks interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Looks like there is pressure being built up in the dual wall again. You can tell since the flow diverts to the sides rather than straight downwards like at the start. So I think a larger hole is better.
Gonna try this! Thanks
Is a larger hole better? Did you try it. Please let me know
great videos bro! keep up the good work
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
I love these "tuning" videos. Thanks!
Glad you like them, and thanks for watching!
I bought the delongi and i really like the coffee. I thought the coffee will be just okay, but its really good. Next thing is a bottomless Filter.
Great upgrade. Just tried it.
Thank You very much Tom! This tiny little hole, make espresso great!
Dear Friend, I `m really appreciate for your advice otherwise I`ll bring this coffee machine to service and pay 20-50 pounds. Really the coffee was not pressurized and I clean these small holes and didn't make bigger the hole on the another sieve . Press start and the sound of preparing coffee was like in new machine. God Bless you, thank you so much !
Great video .
Thank you 👍
This is just cool, looking forward to some DiY. Thanks!
Very nice, Martin! Have at it! 😉
That is an awesome idea
0:24 you can also just drill the first type of basket, just dont go too deep so you dont damage the inside filter holes. and btw. its nice that you notice to use personal protection equipment, but when drilling, never ever use gloves, as they might get stuck in the drill!
I will used the port filter thanks
thanks for sharing this nice explanation ...
the pressurized basket can often deliver more crema. for my dual-wall basket, i ended up grabbing an acetylene torch and burning the stuck grounds out. it mostly melte out the mess, and you can hear it and see it coming out from the openings. rinse and repeat about 3-4 times until you no longer hear the old grounds melting any longer. bye the way, if you don't clean out the junk then you will eventually destroy the pump.
Thanks for your feedback and tips! Everyone's taste is different, so if you prefer the pressurized baskets for your coffee, then that's good too! Thanks for your great video on changing the pump on the Dedica by the way. It took the uneasiness away for me to open up my machine. 👍
@@TomsCoffeeCorner yeah, i probably sound a bit negative. everyone does have different taste for sure. this video and others will help people out. it will also prevent premature pump failure (among other things) for sure too.
Thanks for sharing, and what about the temperature?
Dear Tom, can I use new hand-made non-pressurised basket with original Dedica portafilter or I have to cut the bottom or remove black plastic, etc? Thank you
Nice tip...! Im in too!
This is genius!!! Try it!!!!
Would be a great motivation to buy that new grinder xD
Thanks
Hi I get new one. I’m interested in orginal tiny basket will destroy my coffee machine?
i cant resist a good coffee giveaway. im in
Awesome idea! I think it's important to point out that once you do this you must grind fine and you cannot use pre ground coffee anymore. For this reason I opted to purchase a non pressurized basket (and a good grinder) like the one you showed. That way if I need to use a coarser grind sometime I'm able to.
Hello AJ, you are definitely right! If you depressurize the filter, then you have to grind finer.
I’d mainly recommend doing this, if you have extra baskets to experiment with, or don’t want to wait for a new non-pressurized one to arrive.
Cheers, ☕️
Tom
So this will allow to dial in finer grinds?
i bought an open portafilter, but doesn't get any cream, what I'm I doing wrong?
Hi Tom! I follow your channel from southern Italy, and I love your videos. A question: according to you why is so important to make basket unpressurized? (Or using not prezzurized basket) Because i use both of two, but sometimes seems not to be differences. Sorry for my english, and thank you so much
Hey! That’s a nice idea. Especially now, when I finally bought eureka mignon specialita. (Mostly because of you using it, heh). Now it would be great to have a depressurised basket because the grinder is capable for it.
Nice vid! Thanks!
Yes, actually I got the idea from a commenter on a forum I believe. Cool experiment, I agree! Should I jot you down for the giveaway?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I am thinking of buying a depressurized basket right now, but I don’t have any ideas… I doubt whether there are good portafters on aliexpress, so I would really love you to write me down)
@@chekauk7596 Sure, you are noted. But, I would suggest to everyone to just go with Amazon, not Aliexpress. I have included Amazon links in the description box. With Amazon, you get quicker delivery, a rated product, and you can return it if it doesn't fit. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner oh, ok. I’ll watch through those links you attached! Thanks!
awesome idea! please do a tasting competition between a purchased basket and the drilled one. Also how many millimeters is the drill? what would happen if you make the hole bigger?
Some people drill the hole larger...it is your choice. Cheers!
not too bad bro..can try it
thanks my friend
Hi Tom. Your videos are always excellent. Not only your mastery in coffee but the way you explain things make them very special. I enjoy them very much. Thank you. One question about this one. What was your reasoning to choose a 3mm drill instead of a bigger one (5, 10, 15mm) and get closer to the no bottom filter case?
Well, the larger the bit, the more the tip is tapered, and then you'd run into the inner basket part with the drill bit tip, before piercing the basket with the outer radius of the drill bit.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner If I understand correctly that should not be a problem in my case because the inner part is renovable (I have a Dedica Arte).
@@TomsCoffeeCorner My question was more .... Would a 10mm or 15mm hole be better than a 3mm one to be closer to the bottom less filter support case?
Hi Tom I’ve just purchased a Dedicated Arte could you please recommend a bottomless portafilter also a Electric grinder for mainly espresso. Thanks Emil
Sure, here are two options: geni.us/Normcore51mmBottomless or geni.us/BottomlessPF
Hello Tom, Thank you for your great videos!
I wonder if we can hack ese basket instead, is there any way to depressurized that basket since i dont use pods?
Sure, that should work too, I would think.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner the only thing to concern is that I can't just push drill in to the hole. becuase I may end up making a hole into the entire basket...
I’m in for the giveaway ! Thanks for your videos
hello, I need your Support, I have the dedica 785, and I have trouble getting the coffee out with the double basket,, I grind the coffee with the grinder kg 79 modified. so I grind it as fine as possible, but the coffee does not come out,how many grams of coffe use from one cup, and that from two?
Thanks
Hey Luke, are you using the pressurized baskets? If so, you cannot grind too fine for those. They will get jammed quickly. I would really recommend one of the non-pressurized baskets that I have listed in the description.
Tnx for this it happened to me no water coming out to this baskets
With the delongi baskets the tiny holes aren’t always all drilled out properly, any tips to fix this or should I just buy a new-higher quality basket
Howdy! The baskets are pretty affordable, and allow larger doses, so I would recommend picking up an aftermarket, non-pressurized one. Cheers!
I did this, but with a ⅛ drill bit. Now my dedica will pre soak but only pull a shot for 3 seconds. I tried reseting my settings, that didn't fix it. What is interesting is without the depressurized portafilter on it will push water out no problem, it's only when I but the basket on.🤔 I'm wondering if I need to drill my hole bigger? Any thoughts? Thanks!
That sounds counterintuitive to me. The larger the hole that you drill, the more relief there should be for the pressure. Maybe try a larger hole?
Nice! Thanks for the giveaway!
Noted!
Can you use a standard filter with the portafilter the machine comes with? (EC885) or do you need a bottomless portafilter too?
You can, but then you have to remove the plastic insert in the OEM portafilter.
Hi Tom, is it safe to consume after drilling? I'm afraid that some pieces will fly inside and get stuck. But I didn't open the all the way because of the sediment, but just enough so that there is no pressure and it works great, I just don't drink yet until I'm sure there are no pieces
Hi there! Well on my basket, I could remove the insert, and clean everything thoroughly with water, and made sure it was totally clean before using. Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hi, yes I know, but I did it on the cialde basket so that I can knock my coffee out, because I don't wash that filter every time :) cheers
Hi Tom,
What is the taste difference when using a depressurized filter?
You can grind finer, and get a traditional extraction, where the crema is caused by the bean, and not the turbulence created via pressurized basket.
Hello Tom. I recently bought an ec685. I use the standard pressurized filter. I haven't bought a grinder yet, so I use pre-ground coffee. The problem is that whatever settings I tried, the coffee always comes out very bitter. What can be the problem? Maybe pre-ground coffee can be too finely ground, the type of coffee, the settings of the machine? Do you recommend the depressurized filter for pre-ground coffee? What type of grinder do you recommend? Thank you.
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
These videos may help:
How to extract the perfect espresso: ua-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/v-deo.html
How to Get Crema: ua-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/v-deo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ua-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/v-deo.html
Is the extraction time linger than 30s, than you need to reduce it. As you can not grind coarser, try less coffee and less water.
One question, I bought a non pressurised filter but no matter how fine coffee is, extraction time is always the same and always too fast. How can I change that?
Hey David, check out this video for extraction tips. If it is still too fast, normally it has to do with beans that have not been freshly roasted. What kind of beans do you use? You'd be surprised just how much difference freshly roasted beans make, if you haven't tried them yet.
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Hi Tom. I have a separate question that i was hoping you may be able to help us with.
We have an older EC680 that, without any modifications, we were so happy with that we bought a second..., as a kitchen colour change...; the problem we have is that with identical grinds on fresh roasted beans, the newer EC685 is very poor by comparison. We are using identical medium heat, and same water hardness, and same water volume, as we set from straight water flow.., and the newer 685 is never as good, and has never been as good. Any thoughts ? Rgds, Mark
Hey Mark, well that's a tough one. I have a 5 year old EC680, and a newer EC685. I measured their compressions. The newer machine had a max of 11 bars, and the old one maxed out at 7 bar. Perhaps you got used to extractions at a lower pressure? Otherwise, maybe the new machine is defective?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner - Thanks Tom. Maybe you are correct on both points.., however Delonghi have offer to have it brought in... I will let you know the outcome. Ta
@@harchihiarchi Ok, well I am curious how it works for you. Keep us posted. Cheers!
@@harchihiarchi how did it go? :)
@@Stardustparadise418
Thanks so much for following up.
Delonghi replaced the machine with new, however was identical in performance to the one I was complaint about..., so we bought another product. We still have the other older ec680 ( I think that's the model ), which continues to be great.
Maybe they changed the pump or tubing / water flow in the ec685..., but I really don't know.
I did it , now no problems with clogged hole
Hi I tried to do it the coffee comes out like the moka do I need to grind finer?
Yes, and make sure to use fresh beans.
Hello Tom. My double basket seems to not fit very tightly. It sometimes stays into the machine when I unscrew the portafilter, and when I'm trying to clean it by giving it a slight hit it falls off. Is this is a deal breaker? Should I sent the machine back? It's a hassle. Do you think If I just buy another basket or portafilter it would be better?
Have you tried a non pressurized basket, like this one? amzn.to/3JBHEC1 I have never had an issue with these sweet IMS baskets.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you Tom I will try it. Do you have any portafilter recommendations too, in case that's not the issue? If that doesn't do it either I guess I'm gonna have to look into the gasket?
@@DocHoliday596 Hey there, I have some listed in the video description. Cheers and good luck!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks a lot!
Hello! Helpful video! Related to the coffee machine EC685, the machine is newly bought yet for single shot and double shot, it barely produces any coffee and stops after 3-5 sec max. Is it due to grind size or is there something wrong with the filter?
Try grinding coarser, especially if you're using the included presurized filter baskets. Cheers!
Can you use depresurized filter in the original two hole portafilter?
Yes, but you'll have to likely remove the plastic insert.
Tom, have you seen the version of Dedica called EC680R?
Yes, it's the red EC680. Cheers!
Does de-pressurizing the basket actually make much difference I'm relatively new to all this.
Well, it allows you to grind finer, so that you can achieve a better extraction.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you for your reply I think this maybe something I'll have to look into, I have already followed you video on upgrading the steam wand and that has been successful.
@@neildavison8065 Oh, that's very cool! 😉 Good luck with the mod!
😆😆The hacks never stop.
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is it possible for you to cut the bottom of the basket ? i'm thinking of drilling the tiny hole, but i think i will get better result, cutting the hole bottom.. my pressurized basket has a metal screen, not like yours its rubber...
Yes you can cut the bottom off, but it's not easy to do. Good luck! It might be better just to buy a new basket: amzn.to/426MajF
@@TomsCoffeeCorner its for an oster 6601
Would this be compatible with the portafilter provided by Delonghi?
You betcha!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Nice! I've been looking for a solution that didn't involve buying an entire new portafilter.
hace you tried to make the hole 2 o 3 cm wider ?
Nope, I don't have an ideal drill bit for that.
can we not make the hole bigger, like thrice or four times bigger
Hmm, yes I don't see why not. It will just be a little harder to drill through the metal, but should be doable.
Interesting... Does that work also on a ECP 3420?
Sure. It should work to depressurize any baskets like this.
I have just bought Delonghi Dedica EC685 and now I am very wondering how those basket affect the taste of coffee👀
Hello Betuel, thanks for watching! Should I enter you in the giveaway?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Oh! Yes please. thank you☺️
@@betulluk Ok, I used a random number generator, and Betül Türkmenoğlu is the winner! Congrats to Betül, and thanks to everyone for participating! Betül: contact me at tomscoffeecorner@gmail.com for further details regarding shipment.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner What good news!🤩
I would love to have them pls
Oh I’m sorry Elie, but the winner has already been drawn. Thank you for watching! 😉
Great video series, love the porn music overlay (haha), just got a new Dedica and it's already struggling to produce expresso, had to run it like 8 times to get enough to call it a double so obviously there is an issue with the filter, will try some of your troubleshooting ideas, thanks
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I think if I made a bigger circle than that, it would be better? what do you think؟
Sure, it could work as well.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thx alot
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Couldnt you just cut off the second wall with the hole in it? As to make it an actual bottomless basket?
It's not really easy to do. I have done it with a Dremel, but it was a pain in the butt.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner wow, thanks for the quick reply! Does it work properly tho? I will do it then but didnt know if the little screen would leak on the sides or something.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Does it work properly? Does the little rubber seal properly seat?
Will creating a lot of smaller holes improve the extraction?
Boy I don't know...but you'd have to deburr a lot more holes. I think one is enough to just depressurize it.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for the reply. I will try with one for now. Have a nice day. :)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I tried and the coffee now comes with a very bright shallow crema on top. Tastes better than stock, very smooth. I think the crema texture is what needs tweaking now. I use Lavazza Rossa, temperature on High, water hardness Medium with the stock handle, except the black plastic from the inside (nipples) are removed. Any recommendations to get a better, thicker crema? I buy coffee from my local coffee shop, the owner grinds it freshly so what should I ask for next time?
Thanks and have a good day!
@@deyoviC Well, the next step would be to get your own grinder so that you can grind on demand. Timing is paramount, since grounds lose their freshness quickly. Your local roaster will provide much better crema than Lavazza, since it is the CO2 escaping, which is creating the crema. On old supermarket beans, the CO2 has already escaped.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I am looking for some grinding machine sales and will purchase one in foreseeable future. I will try with fresh coffee tomorrow and if there is a difference then I know it's the grind.
Thanks a lot for your reply.
grazie molto utile
More safe way to do the hole a bit bigger is to use dentist drill bits
My question is: Why do manufactures made pressurized baskets in first place?
ita for corser coffee like store bought pre ground coffee
I think because a lot of people use preground Lavazza coffee...
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks !
I tried depressurise the basket on my Delinghi ECO310 and it definitely made the coffee taste worse!!!
Well, beware that if you depressurize your basket, that you have to grind finer.
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What do volcanoes mean? Is that good?
should have watched this earlier..... 🥳
I did same and it ruined my coffee, I just discovered that I must grind fine, I am sad
Do you have a grinder yourself? If not, the Kingrinder K4 is the best for the price.
But why?
i tried this method and managed to cut both my arms off and both my legs ,i also breathed in metal shaving ,and had to have my lung removed . not only that .one of the metal shaving got into my eye and snap ,had to have to eye removed . stay safe everyone .im using mind control to write this comment . 😂🤣😅
@@kg-Whatthehelliseventhatесли он тебя не послушался в тот день, то со дня на день у него может родиться ребёнок.
I did it and now not crema in my espresso be careful if you don't know what you doing
Well now you need to grind finer, and use fresher beans. Cheers!
Soooo the obvious....WHY ?would you depressurize
That's nonsense, a sieve costs 8 euros.
Я думал только русские дырки сверлить умеют и главное могут додуматься до этого))) А он же ещё и дно рожка похоже сам отпилил)))
Том, красавчик👍, он сказал, что прочитал об этом на форуме. Может и без узких не обошлось😂 Пс, просверлили, результат есть?
A mask for drilling a small hole into a sheet metal? Sorry, glasses ok. Can make sense, gloves not so much. You don't wear gloves when handling power tools. But a dust protection mask? Really not nessecary. Even for the deburring afterwards this is overkill.
You also have to consider that protection also disturbs and can interfere with your vision thus an accident is more likely to happen especially if the person is unskilled
these is a disastre is better buy a new canaste
Please don’t wear gloves while drilling
Why not? Do you mean if the gloves got caught in the drill?
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