Is the Michael Penix Jr. draft pick actually justifiable for the Atlanta Falcons? | NFL on FOX Pod
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- Dave Helman sits down with Cynthia Frelund to talk about the NFL Draft! Within the conversation, the duo discuss the Atlanta Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr. and whether it was the right decision to already start looking for a potential replacement toward Kirk Cousins.
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Is the Michael Penix Jr. draft pick actually justifiable for the Atlanta Falcons? | NFL on FOX Pod
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Is the Michael Penix Jr. draft pick actually justifiable for the Atlanta Falcons?
No.
It is. The majority is wrong on this one. Last year showed that backup QB is more important than ever.
Absolutely NO!!
They needed a qb. PERIOD!! I guess everyone is alright with Heinicke is Cousins gets hurt huh? You people complaining are dumb
They structured his salary and loaded up the first two first this reason. They’ve already said, “ KC is the guy for the next couple and Penix is the guy for 10 afterwards”
As a Falcons fan, I 100% agree! It's a breath of fresh air to hear someone with common sense with Cynthia. Could we have went edge in the first round? Absolutely. That's still a minor concern. But we already have a few young guys, on top of the Trice pick (which I think was a steal), that very well may surprise everyone. We're set for now, and set for the future. Love it.
Ask yourself this question how did it work out for the Jets in Aaron Rodgers. How did it work out for Matt Ryan and the colts. Or Russell Wilson and the broncos. Then ask yourself this question how did it work out for Carolina and Bryce Young. And I could go on and on. There's no guarantee drafting a quarterback or signing a vet. So when you have the unique opportunity to do both do it.
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Dear Dave:
1. Obviously a team would like to take advantage of all 4 years of a rookie contract but that doesn't matter. No one cares how much or how little money is spent or even who you draft if you are winning. We (a Falcons fan) aren't looking for a rookie to carry the team and we also aren't depending on a very good but aging vet to be great for 4 years.
2. The Falcons did not know if Penix would be available at #8. We tried to get an elite pass rusher in FA but it didn't work out. I personally didn't think any of the pass rushers in this draft were transcendent talents. We were not a decent pass rusher away from being 10-7 last year but we were certainly a decent QB away from being 11-6.
The rookie QB contract myth is ridiculous. Since ‘94, only THREE QBs have won a Super Bowl on a rookie Contract, and ALL OF THEM, got a new contract before their second if they had one. The other premium positions give you financial flexibility as well.
People are drastically overstating the rookie QB contract. Just please stop.
This is what everyone is missing. Didn’t know that stat.
The missing link
So glad you said this. I've been saying this to many people that the rookie contract thing being a cheat code is so misleading.
another Patrick Mahomes effect. he won a Super Bowl in his rookie deal and now everyone think it's a normal circumstance.
@@jordansheffield6101there’s more nuance, so, that rookie deal allows you to sign front loaded deals at other positions so when your QB re-signs, those deals have already paid out the majority of the contract with 1-2 yrs remaining
Ain’t no way Cousins plays more than two years. Ain’t no way they are gonna trade Penix and keep Cousins. Ain’t no way you can compare Penix to Wilson.
If cousins comes in and balls out put up mvp type numbers both years. No way the falcons just let him go in the hopes that Penix will continue that tradition. That’s a big gamble that could cost them their jobs if it doesn’t pan out.
@@ericriding If 36 in August Kirk Cousins balls out for 2 years, he’ll be 38. The NFL might take next years 1st away from Baltimore for tampering while signing Kirk Cousins. It’s all in the plan, man.
if kirk is playing year 3 then he will have to win a sb year 1 or 2. 😂😂
Exactly, Cousins will play for 2 years max and that's only if he's healthy and balling out. Lol
@@ericriding Exactly right and he has put up MVP type numbers the last two seasons and Hall of Fame numbers all throughout his career with a poor offensive line.
Ofc it would take a woman to explain this situation to men….shes was so on the money!
Head coach, General Manager, and Owner were all in agreement to make this pick for the reasons they clearly stated so I would say it was justifiable.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
People have 0 vision
lol that’s funny, people hear reasoning and say “that’s a good point, but I still don’t think it was good idea even if it makes sense”
If it's working out, it's gutsy. If it's not, then it's stupid.
Cousin Play for 2 years while Penix learns and soak up knowledge then trade cousins for draft compensation to further help Penix out with weapons from those picks..I say that's a win
These media folks don’t do research, MPJ isn’t the backup, we have Tyler Henikie
The Jets analogy was perfect
They won’t trade Penix
It's a good move. He can play all the preseason games and with this o-line and a new tendon. I can guarantee Cousins is gonna miss some games
High risk.. high reward in life and business one must take chances. Kirk Cousins and Michael Penix jr will work itself out.
I hope athletes take note of the philosphy ive heard multiple times with this situatuon: the player is a good person/professional, so lets make decisions which are against their best interest.
Sounds like these two are just chanting the PR of the Falcons front office.
This was a bad pick. No other way to put it. You don't use a top 10 pick on a backup. I thought the falcons were getting smarter after they fired Arthur Smith but apparently not.
Worst move in the 1st round. Falcons are playing to win now. Bijan and others are on rookie deals. If they added the pieces they needed they could have conteded for the NFC title. Edge was needed and WR depth. Could have got some of the best at pick 8. Penix is already 24. You don't draft a rookie QB pick at 8 when there are other needs to pick to win now. Cousins lasts 4 Penix is 28 coming in. Kirk gies down,Mike is not NFL ready. They should have signed a back up like Mike White level or even Jacoby Brisset , Joe Flacco or an Andy Dalton
Its a waste of resources regardless. Its either a waste of a top 10 pick or $100 million that you could have used on Danielle Hunter or Christian Wilkins.
Penix Envy
Kirk Cousins has been the most consistent Hall of Fame quality quarterback over the last 10 seasons. Penix has yet to prove himself and may or may not become a Hall of Fame quality quarterback. The Falcons are right there in terms of a Super Bowl and may have blown that opportunity by not helping themselves now with their first round pick. Two years from now the Falcons will face a real problem. Do I continue to play a Hall of Famer with more in the tank or start the player they feel is their franchise quarterback. I wonder how much they could get right now in a trade for Penix.
Why the are people saying things like "the Falcons are right there in terms of a Super Bowl". They won 7 games and lost 10 in a weak division, and their division rivals will likely be better this year. But, if they are ready to make a run, I agree that the pick pulls talent away from Cousins. Then to me Penix isn't a guy who will benefit even from spending a full season on the bench, and I think 2-3 will do some damage. He had like 4 seasons of starts on college. He's older and had some big injuries. He's not a developmental project.
Frankly, I don't think the pick was bad, but they overpaid for Cousins.
2 yrs with a 3rd as a backup
The Minnesota Vikings took a quarterback. My Falcons was not going to be able to get him around 2. And stiil would have gotten drafted top 10. Or the broncos gets him.
Trade away a 27 yr old for a *checks notes* 39 yr old… is this lady smoking dust?
SPENCER RATTLER???
This is a business first then sports entertainment!!! Who cares about feelings when you're making millions?????
Paying a qb 100 mill while burning a 2 season of a rookie qb cap friendly deal is....... bad business. Feelings have nothing to do with the bad business decisions made within 2 months
Dumbest pick ever. I haven't heard a single argument that even comes close to making sense. No you do not do this. Either don't sign Kirk, sign a bridge guy and some better edge rushers and draft Penix. Or you sign Cousins and draft the edge rusher. Dumb dumb dumb so dumb. It's not win/ win it is lose/ lose all day
You’re just a hater, who cares what you think UA-cam executives smh 🤦♂️
@@deelawton4 must be a falcons fan 😂 I'm sure you say that to people you agree with too, right? If I'm wrong I'll admit it, we'll see in about 3 years.
This guy is such a Falcon hater!
Kirk's over paid contract is the only issue here.
No is not. 45 mil is going to be a middle of the road contract in 10 months
What? Learn numbers. He's tied for 7th highest paid annually. With a whopping 25 mill cap hit this year (sarcasm). You're way off lol.
It really is. And they tripping hard about it.
@@C_Santiago7you literally didn’t read a word in my comment. There are qbs who are up for new contracts who will make more than Kirk and there are also QBs who’s extensions haven’t kicked in who will make more than Kirk. Learn to read homie
He wasn't a top ten player on most boards, that's called reaching, when u draft a guy u could've traded down to get, cause u think the raiders or saints are gonna grab him 🤣 so what if they did? Get a different dude then. The bacc up QB needs to be serviceable, not cause drama and controversy, definitely not make the Starter uncomfortable. The Falcons have fucced up many drafts. Then they try to tell us they're gonna win, then they lose. All the while NEVER owning the mistakes they've made. A man owns his mistakes. I call them children cause they don't own up to mistakes they've made. They always try to put a positive spin on a disaster. I'm tired of it and so are Falcons fans. I don't like the GM or Coach. They turned down the Legend Bill with a handful of SB Rings for this slop and tell me they made no mistake? 🤣 What bs is that? Take a player rated like 27th at 8th? Is... just stupid and silly and childish imo. If they had a prestigious past like the Steelers or Giants I would be more likely to give them the benefit of the doubt. The Falcons do NOT have such a past. Falcons past is filled with losses and mistakes therefore, they've no such credit with me. They don't get a tab. They get no benefit of the doubt. Own the mistakes or go bacc to the nursery children! 🤬 Just thinking beavis and butthead are better than Legendary Coach Bill is insane imo. Makes me laugh when Falcons say that wasn't a mistake when that was one of the biggest mistakes they ever made. It's sad how stupid they can be. #Reality
Reminds me a bit of how Raheem went after freeman. It was an "ooh shiny" moment in which he looked at the strong arm and ignored all the intangibles.
You dont add a 1st rounder to sit on the bench when you hv a top draft pick every year because your team is garbage you need players now what a joke all this was like everyone is saying Fontenot just guaranteed himself another 3 years he knows if anything but a qb was chosen he had a 1 yr left if it did not pan out period , unbelievable he still has a job the only picks he hit was obvious no brainers like pitts london and bjan and those are still questionable
Who would you have picked
@@ManuelCorrea-jr3dsone of the top corners 1st or rome and then we had djean sitting there in the 2nd basically anyone but the 6th or 7th rated qb in the draft unbelievable any pic other than this garbage nothing against penix he would hv been fine to gamble on in later rounds if he wasn't there thats fine grab another one no huge talent gap after the top 3 let's hope rattler doesn't pan out for the aints because if he does this is one of the worst decisions in draft history
@@LovelyRobotFigurine-lr5pu in your opinion.. everyone sees their team from the outside in... coaches and front office...sees from inside out..
@@LovelyRobotFigurine-lr5pu if you listen to anylist who never played football in their life..watch football games..
Excellent decision. Blanks is 85 years old. He doesn’t have time to gamble on a QB that’s won 1 playoff games in 14 years. We need options at the most important position in football. The biggest fail that got us here is giving Matt Ryan 350+ with no championship for 15 years. Kirk better perform or else bottom line.