Using FOSS in Linux (or not)
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2021
- I see too often people getting talked down to for not using FOSS, or for using blobs/proprietary software, bloat, a certain desktop environment or distro. This toxicity needs to stop. But most importantly, if you're one of the people who have been treated this way, you've done NOTHING wrong. Other than breaking actual laws, you can do anything you want with your system. It's YOUR system, so don't let anyone else tell you how to run it.
Yes, you can be educated, and yes, some people will let you know about some things that perhaps you didn't know about, and that's fine. But my issue is when people get shamed. There's no place for this in our community. You don't know why someone is using something. Perhaps they have no choice, perhaps they can't afford to get something else, it really doesn't matter. Now saying all this, there are also people who innocently joke around with things like this, and it's usually obvious, so be aware of that.
This is sort of a rant, yes, but it's something that's been bothering me for a while. And while I usually try to stay unbiased with my videos on most topics, there is a limit.
As the disclaimer says at the beginning of the video, I fully support FOSS and I do agree that it is one of the most important things in the Linux world, but I will never force someone's view, nor will I judge them publicly for their choices.
Thanks for watching!
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People like that are the reason the stereotype of linux being only for nerds still exists.Most people don't care about semantics like this. They just want something that works,computers are appliances not temples.If they want more people to adopt free software they have to make it inviting not toxic.
Well said, and I agree
I would know I've been trying to Switch for the last year.
Good video rant, I think that the awareness of FOSS as a solution is more important for its growth than using it for everything, it takes a while to realise this, I am pretty sure all Linux and BSD users go though a stage of strictly using non proprietary software.
I would say use the solutions that work for you, that have licencing terms you are comfortable with.
Compromises do not have to be a bad thing, after all compromise is part of life
Well said! Thanks for the comment!
90% of the time FLOSS tools are superior. For that last 10% you either need to use the lesser program or go proprietary.
Absolutely true! But I'd argue that some of that 10% is also because there's no suitable FLOSS alternative. For work, I need to run MS Access and Excel that both use features in the files I work with that do not work in Linux. It is what it is :)
oh really so how kdenlive is better than Adobe Premiere.Stop your nonsense
@@terminal1807 that's part of the 10%
@@iloihplar I don't think that only 10% people or 10℅ of all software whatever you want to call it use MS office, Adobe products and many other software. Its much more than that.Look I am not saying that Foss tools are not superior they are but its not the majority.Majority of people don't care about licencing so thats another thing.
Thanks for doing this video! I, as a new Linux user, sometimes feel lost because of videos like "Something is bloat, use this instead". I wanna stick to something to learn it but oftentimes I just spend a great amount of time browsing through more minimal softwares instead of just picking one and go with it. I had this dilemma recently trying to choose a wm and a shell.
Definitely don't use or not use something just because of someone's opinion. You can however use their opinions to research the reasons behind them and educate yourself, which can be helpful. Unfortunately there will usually be someone that knocks whatever you use, no matter what it is, and you shouldn't be bothers by comments like this. Like I said in the video, use what YOU want to use on YOUR system if it work for YOU. Cheers and thanks for the comment!
Some people will look for any excuse to put another down and (mistakenly) put themselves up-it can be politics, religion, sports, Linux distros, insert topic here. You'd think humanity would have evolved past this point already.
Yup. Most things I will just brush off, but seeing some people's comments about things like this angers me. I dislike bullies, and those who think they are superior for the dumbest reasons.
@@Doriandotslash 100% agree. One day it'll change (I hope!)
Amen, brother.
I'm glad there's high quality FOSS, but I don't understand why someone would feel superior using it. If anything, I could see reasons for feeling bad about it, such as when someone takes full advantage of all this great free stuff without contributing back. With proprietary software, such a user can at least take comfort knowing the work done was compensated.
My HP 705 G1-T happens to need no proprietary drivers -- just a matter of luck. Actually networking didn't function right away, but Ubuntu and others got it fixed as of 21.10. I used a USB adapter until then.
Yeap, being a fanatic is never a good thing.
Can you make a video on how u made photoshop look like that in wine . And also how to install photoshop .and which version
I didn't change anything about Photoshop, that's how it looks with default settings.
@@Doriandotslash aha . Thanks . I thought apps using wine wouldn't look properly.
@@meliodas.1108 Some can look a little off, but Photoshop looks fine to me.
@@Doriandotslash oki . I'll see to that. Thanks for the reply 😁
What does adding whonix to quebes do to improve security?
It makes the VM access the internet through TOR which hides your true IP and location.
This must be a given thing honestly, criticizing someone for using closed source is stupid
Agreed!
Thank you for this video. FOSS gives you the freedom to choose and you certainly shall choose what works best for you under your particular circumstances.
Exactly! Cheers and thanks for the comment!
Very reasonable video. My only question is why are you editing your thumbnails in 4k anyways? Not intending to criticise only to better understand your reasoning. From what I know UA-cam only displays 1280x720 thumbnail anyways.
I find working with a higher resolution and then scaling it down for a thumbnail makes it look nicer and smoother than just working with a lower resolution to begin with. I suppose it's probably from lower resolutions having more jagged edges and artifacts from effects, and those imperfections get hidden and smoothed out if you start with a higher resolution and then scale down. Thanks for the comment!
@@Doriandotslash Makes sense kinda like streamers using high resolution cameras. Keep up the great content.
Great message
yea use whats work
also me : use bsd with removed bluetooth stack and disable hyperthread on kernel by default
I agree with every thing u said, great vid!
Thank you :)
Spot on! I totally agree with you.
On the other hand, I'm still having a trouble setting up Wine on my Mint machine. I tried with your tutorial from some time ago, but I got stuck during the setup... Any additional, idiot-proof resources you might recommend? A new, longer in-depth video guide from you would be cool as well ;) I mean, come on, help a dude who's still dual-booting :D
Thanks! As for PlayOnLinux/Wine, the best place to ask would be with the experts on their forums to be honest. Some software can be very picky about what versions of what are needed to be installed. And sometimes there's some odd tweaks that need to be done to get something working.
@@Doriandotslash Thank you! Wish me luck! :D :D
@@TitanV Good luck and I hope you're successful! If anything it's a great way to learn :)
It's like vegans, they sometimes talk to non-vegan people like they are a better person because they are vegan. Great, that's your choice, just don't talk down to others.
Thank you for the video.
Except meat doesn't spy on you, proprietary software often does.
@@Neucher I think the analogy still works. "Internet Vegans" attempt to shame non-vegan people but don't understand that 1 person's meat consumption accounts for many 1/1,000,000th of a top-10-companies *daily* emissions. Thus, vegans who bully non-vegans are being myopic by not realizing that the individual is not at fault, and their role is absolutely miniscule.
Sure, proprietary software is very often far from ideal, and as an idealist I recognize that. However, perhaps FOSS Vanguards would better turn their attention to looking at the source, instead of looking down on people for using proprietary software.
@@qb3661 I use Arch too 😉
I've been very keen to move my home music studio to Linux for years. Is it doable? Yes, absolutely, but with compromises. Sometimes it's just efficiency as in your example of Kdenlive vs Lightworks, however there are many other factors such as plugin and peripheral hardware compatibility. For example I have a relatively old RME Fireface and while it has basic functionality with Linux, its amazingly flexible TotalMix control panel software simply doesn't work, so unless you use Windows or Mac OS's you're throwing away a big chunk of functionality, just to polish your FOSS halo. That's not something I can bring myself to do with hardware that would cost me well over £1000 to replace.
It's a good example because were RME to opensource their TotalMix software they'd instantly give away a significant advantage and well over a decade of development work to their direct competitors, same goes for their drivers, which have been industry leading forever. So that's never going to happen, but why should that therefore automatically mean that their products aren't fully functional in Linux and their software Linux compatible?
In part it's because of the assumption that everything *HAS* to be FOSS on Linux, so you can't even begin to have a conversation about how many audio engineers would love to side step the nonsenses of Apple and Microsoft, and happily pay handsomely for a rock solid reliable audio workstation running Linux to host their DAW. The 'unixy-like' nature of older versions of Mac OSX was reason enough for really ancient Mac Pro's to be the heart of a great many pro audio studios up until relatively recently. Even without plugins the basic combination of something like Presonus StudioOne and Linux Desktop would be industry changing - well when there is an audio recording industry again :)
I'm happy to see that toxic fanboys aren't bashing the comment section. I use non free drivers too, just don't have time to waste just finding the software.
Same here! Cheers
Thank you, Dorian. I use FOSS whenever possible but if I want to watch Netflix etc then I'll use whatever I need to. Still, I haven't needed to use .doc and other Borgware file types since 2007 or so. Berating people for not being "pure" is pointless.
I know the type, if you even mention the lag in linux or the fact that it often freezes they start getting nasty..
As long as it's not harvesting my data, or I at least have no reason to believe it is, then I don't care that much.
True dat!!!!!!
Security and privacy go brrrr.
I 100% share your opinion! Very good video. Thanks!
Thank you!
I seriously don't give a rat's ass what users run on their Linux machines. I run Linux Mint 20.3 on 2 out of my 3 Linux machines. I have to use Windows on my main computer for certain software that I use to make EAS scenarios (SAPI 4 and SAPI 5, as a couple of examples.) I use Linux because I can keep old systems running without the vulnerabilities of older windows versions.
uhm eckchewelly it's called FLOSS
lol yeah yeah
*proceeds to floss on the haters*
KEEP IT UP
The actually True video I've seen in years being made on Linux. I use linux because to simply put.... Windows 10 is a bad operating system, because of spyware and bull**** Updates. Windows 7 was awesome.
How dare you!!! Hahahahahahahaha!! I totally agree with your rant mate!!
:D Thanks as always Colin, glad you got a chuckle out of it :)
I don't care about Software ADOBE or something as much as the firmware level and hardware level..
hope to see open hardware dominates like RISC V
Yep that's the primary issue. Sometimes you don't have a choice but to use a certain firmware or even distro. I personally got shamed for using something because it uses "blobs", but unless I use different hardware, I have no choice here...
No context - no information. Did you know the origin of license is permission to sin, courtesy of the Vatican? Did you know that freedom and license are mutually exclusive? My right to extend my clenched fist stops short of your nose. Further extended, I have taken license. License in legal terms is permission to perform an act that without said license would be illegal. So everything under license is illegal but it's OK - the State takes their cut and Ethics is swept under the rug. :) Same church different pew in computerland. lol
So you do what you do and let the others make it easier for people to go full FOSS, or not.
good video :)
Thanks!
I really like this take, and totally agree with use what works for you, after all, diversity is what makes everything better
Exactly! Thanks for the comment :)
You have misunderstood what FOSS is about. Linux was not created for people to use Wine and Windows applications. If you like Windows applications, just use Windows. I find it really strange that you have your own UA-cam channel about Linux, but that you run lots of Windows applications on Linux. That kind of defeats the purpose of using Linux. Also, it really isn't that hard to have your computer run without closed source firmware. In most cases you just have to swap out your wifi card. In practice it doesn't matter whether you have a Wifi6 card or N card. Most people doesn't have an internet connection faster than N, and if speed is a concern, use Ethernet.
In your opinion, what is the "purpose" of using Linux? Maybe some people think Linux runs faster, or they don't want to pay for a Windows licence for their new PC, or they simply don't like how Windows works?
isnt gimp the alternative to photoshop? why use krita
Not really. Krita can do more things in a similar way as Photoshop with layer/blending effects etc.
@@Doriandotslash so for memes and thumbnails etc use Krita?
@@yellowlinks If my only 2 choices for making my thumbnails were Gimp or Krita I would use Krita. I’ve actually used it for a few thumbnails but found it was not as good or fast as photoshop.