Disney bought 20th Century Fox. Disney now owns the Alien Franchise. The Xenomorphs were born of a queen. All the Xenomorphs are now Disney Princesses.
It's really incredible to look back at the original Alien and realize they managed to collect seven truly excellent character actors in one moderately budgeted sci-fi horror flick. Peter Doyle doesn't get nearly enough credit for assembling that cast.
Yes, exactly. If you'd replace the original cast by the typical cast of today's newcoming actors, even the rest of the artists involved in the original movie wouldn't be able to safe it from becoming slock cinema. Alien is perfect. Everything about it is perfect. Nobody will ever be able to catch that lighning in a bottle again. Cameron came close, but even the excellent Aliens is a tad less artistic than Alien.
Those actors and their Robert Altman dialogue and camaradarie made the film even more than it was and Sigourney is simply irreplaceable no matter how capable the new actress is. I mean Veronica behaves like she's actually scared out of her mind,sometimes nearing Shelley Duvall territory
first film was groundbreaking, this film is just checking all the dei boxes and being exactly the same as every other modern movie. talk about tarnishing a legacy
I usually agree with Drinkers opinion on movies, so I also respect this one even though I disagree. I liked the movie very much. The sibling/friend relationships of the crew (there were actually three pairs of siblings in the crew) was a nice, original take. It felt quite intimate, underlined by the claustrophobic environment and contrasted by brutality of the xenos and cold pragmatism of the Ash-like android. The actors did good job and the cast looked believable. I suppose Rain was never meant to be a copy of Ripley, but instead portray a softer character, which I liked too. The action was great (the flying through acid in no gravity was really quite innovative and cool imo). One thing I like most about Alien movies is those scarce panoramic visuals - and this movie delivered a few great shots of the planet, the ring system etc which were stunning. The dystopian environment of the colony was good to see too. Visuals overall was beautiful, what even Drinker admitted. Yes, the movie has it's flaws ofc, however, imo it could be placed next to the original trilogy with honor.
He did a good Sad Clown robot impression, kind of an old school Android who wants to be human. When he sacrificed the one chick to save the 2 other Humans was more interesting than anything in an Alien movie since the first 2
As I get to lazy to put the disk in the computer i do find myself watching react content That and covers/karaoke vtubers and it's so good you think a few more people together they could make their own music. Some do. Then some AI music with the feel and the beat, sometimes good singing too. Funny AI mash up of x/y/z mix. x/y genre in z person's style and with a click ya can transpose till one works
The trailers indicated this would be just a stand alone Horror movie but we got a Aliens-sampler that was ok but not as good as a real movie w/ its own identity
The thing I most loved about the original Alien was the long gaps of silence, in which you could subtly hear the humming and whirring of the spacecraft. That really added to the sense of foreboding even though most of the time nothing actually happened. It’s an effect you very rarely see in modern movies.
That would require truly gifted writers and producers still be present and accounted for in Hollywood; fact is anyone with real talent - got out of Dodge while the getting was good realizing that only crap was going to be acceptable anymore.
Andy seemed slightly retarded. Did anyone else notice that??? All the other androids were smart. But then it hit me: Disney items that franchise right? It's a Disney sidekick!!! Dumb but well meaning. A typical Disney character. I wondered why he just didn't fit. Also why on earth does he malfunction every time he hits the floor?
Turning off the gravity so she could kill the aliens without decompressing the ship was brilliant. Why would you pretend that they were suprised by the acid blood floating when that was a deliberate decision made by the characters? I think you missed the mark on this one.
@@mrsmokingskittles148 wierd. Almost as of the movie was written that way. Just like it was lucky ripley found newt in some random vent in a complex that was a s big as a city.
@@samr.england613Partially because it's more nuanced and partially because it's more realistic. The aliens will never be as useful a weapon as guns or nukes, but humanity will always need better health
we see the mouse (after it is healed by the black goo) being ripped apart from the inside. Just because Rook/Ash gives a voiceover about how WT is trying to help people, doesn't mean you have to believe him.
WY will try to use the aliens for every possible field, including medicine. Using them just as a biological weapons is so basic. WY want to spread and colonize other worlds, but as noted by Ash/Rook, colonists (or humanity in general) are ill suited for dangers of outer space. They hardly do this out of goodness of their hearts, obviously, they just want to be more effective.
You know why the original Alien stood as a slasher film? It’s because every character wasn’t the stereotypical idiot like in every horror movie. Everyone’s decision made sense based on their rank on the ship and wasn’t idiotic. Ripley refuses to let kane onboard because of quarantine rules but ash does it because of his programming. Textbook example is they have to go find the cat in the engine room otherwise he’ll keep showing up on the scanner while they’re trying to find the xenomorph. You actually care about every character who dies because they make logical decisions, they’re not just generic horror movie cannon fodder
The alien hunting them down 1 by 1 was great, like a hunter after prey. Every alien movie after is just action of humans and aliens doing dumb things because insert action scene here.
Also, Ripley was a believable female lead. Probably one of only 3-4 in cinema history. Everyone went into that movie thinking Tom Skerrit was gonna be the action star, and he got hugged in an air vent at the start of the movie.
I disagree. I read the comics and would love to see cinematic versions of what I'm limited to seeing be read frame by frame. There is a Terminator VS Aliens VS Predator comic that I would 💦💦💦💦💦💦 if it came to theaters.
One thing I really liked about Alien was that when I first saw the movie you didn't know who had the main role, this added a layer of suspense as you didn't know who would make it to the end. In this Alien film, you knew right away who has the main role, and who would have the lead cast plot armor.
well to be fair what added to that is every aliens movie ever has had a female lead so you've come to expect it by the time Romulus comes around so that's not really the fault of the movie but rather a fault of us being accustomed to the franchise
The original was so great because Ripley wasn't obviously the main character, you didn't know who was going to live or die. The person who did die first to the chest burst scene had more screen time to Ripley by the time he met his end. The problem with every entry since then is we know who the main character is, so there is no tension; we know who is going to live and die within the first moments. Was anyone surprised that Rayne and her Service Robot survived her alien encounter? No? It's because the film telegraphs her importance and emotional arch within the first few minutes of the film. That's not how you do horror!
It's dumb how people try to defend female lead action movies by using Alien as an example. Alien is not an action film, it's a horror film. Ripley is more a scream queen, not an action hero.
Romulus made me forget that Ridley Scott killed Elizabeth Shaw off screen and turned Michael Fassbender into the High Evolutionary of the Xenomorphs. So it has that going for it.
Not to mention that Shaw's dead body was an INCREDIBLY disrespectful reference to a painting of a real life woman that H.R. Giger loved, who killed herself due to severe depression.
Ridley Scott's humancentric narcissism as he fell back onto the trite "humans were the real monsters all along" zombie movie trope, as if the universe wasn't capable of spawning greater horrors without mankind's assistance. Imagine if Dune's worms could travel between solar systems, some people would still be siding with it over humanity.
@@Sonny_AA The only thing that really bothers me is that things are left so vague. We don't even know what kind of planet the one from Covenant was. We were supposed to see the Engineer's homeworld after Prometheus. We just got a random lifeless planet, no more lore or explanation about anything that happened in the first movie. We just saw David recreating the Xenomorph he saw in the mural he saw in Prometheus, so it probably isn't even the "real" alien. Like, why did it have to be like this?
I think it will have the Jurassic World, Force Awakens effect where they watch it a first time, like it and then upon replay when they think about, they will decide it's pretty mediocre.
@@josebarrozo7620 Good god, I want to argue against that point, but I really can't. For as amazing as the first two films are, the entire rest of the series ... woof.
Totally agree. Only people that seem critical of it are the Alien ‘pure bloods’. Was it the best film ever? No. But I had a great couple hours watching it!
At least they didn't steal the greatest line of this franchise: "I'm ready, man, check it out. I am the ultimate badass! State of the badass art! You do not wanna fuck with me. Check it out! Hey Ripley, don't worry. Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you! Check it out! Independently targeting particle beam phalanx. Vwap! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phased plasma pulse rifles, RPGs, we got sonic electronic ball breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks..." R.I.P. Bill Paxton
For once, I really disagree with your take. 'Alien vs. Predator' has its cool moments, and the third 'Alien' film is also great, packed with fantastic ideas. I still appreciate both 'Prometheus' and 'Covenant.' In this case, the filmmakers actually did what you've often asked other studios to do: they catered to their target audience. The film was well-crafted and fit into the universe, especially considering it was directed and written by someone new to the franchise. It's full of interesting ideas-some better than others-but overall, it delivered exactly what I expect from an 'Alien' movie.
Not sure if I think its outstanding/great, but its passable enough that I can enjoy it. This isn't going to be a cultural touchstone like the first 2 films, but I don't feel like I wasted my time or money going and watching it.
Yep, reminds me of the "hot by proxy" phenomenon you see a lot in the military. "A deployment 8, is a 4 back home" ive seen dudes throw away beautiful marriages with very attractive wives for these hogs and its crazy, but thats reality for ya, shit doesnt make sense.
What's ironic about this review is that Drinker has been caught in that scenario before with Fallout. He overlooked all the w0ke elements of that show because he's been fed filth for nearly a decade.
Man. I am so glad I didn't listen to you. Went and saw the film. And well, yes it did have some of the same tropes from the previous Alien movies, it was well put together and it flowed greatly with a lot of tension and a great climax at the end. The visuals and sonic portions of the film were absolutely stunning. Monumental when it came to exterior shots and the weight of the space scenes. The camera angles were epic and the sets were obviously built with care. The amount of detail in everything was immense. It felt like the original Alien film to a T. They got everything right including the details of the sound and how Mother worked. It was just wonderful. I would say the only rough spot was the CGI used for Rook... but it was believable enough and it was a pleasure to see that character brought to life again. I think you and Nerdrotic and some of the other guys on UA-cam have become extremely critical to the point where you can't enjoy things anymore. That is a shame because it was a fantastic movie, IMO.
I dont understand how you can say the movie was well put together, when the way it was put together is the most jarring flaw of this movie. The number of plot holes and just plain stupid writing is spoiling everything that is great in it. I don't blame you for liking it, just be honest about what is clearly wrong with it.
Aliens in 1984 set up so many possibilities and the future of the franchise should have been amazing. Here were 40 years later, and nothing has come remotely close. Hollywood just fails. Time after time after time.
@@echoechoecho7142 To be honest, while I'm one of those nutbags who kinda _likes_ Alien 3 - despite the pure _bullshit_ the movie opens with - I also wouldn't lose any sleep if a future sequel (hopefully, a _good_ one) came along that completely retconned its events out of existence. And no, not in a way similar to Terminator: Duck Phuck, either. Alien: Resurrection was just pure crap, though. To hell with that movie. May it rot on the scrap heap of cinematic history where it belongs.
She wasn't even a "badass" (that would be Sarah Connor), she was just a very competent character. Although these days just being competent at all makes you relatively a badass, so...
@@gmonkman And that's why modern woke audiences hate her - god forbid you have to actually put some effort to be good! It's so much easier to just Didn't Earn It than actually work for something.
A character like her or Sarah Connor can't be written in current year, because it was maternal instinct that made both of them into some of the greatest action heroes of all time. And considering attacking that maternal instinct is at the cornerstone of the agenda and that even the definition of what a woman is is controversial these days it's all over for good female characters. I mean, Barbie is as "good" as it gets these days, so you can see where things are going.
@@mattwells5022 "Game over, man! Game _over!"_ "We're on an express elevator to Hell, going _down!"_ "How do I get outta this _chickenshit_ outfit?" Love those lines. lol
I love when he goes through the list of weapons in their itinerary to Ripley, including phase pulse plasma rifles, and ends on sharp pointy sticks. I never picked up on that until my last recent viewing and it cracked me up.
Watched it and liked it. Has the Drinker made a fair assessment? Yeah, he's pretty spot on however, I'm just a simple creature and I don't review movies for a living so I can sit down, completely switch off and enjoy a simple movie, even with its many... many faults.
Something to many people forget "turn off brain" watch and enjoy It really isn't that complicated QUIT OVER THINKING IT, It's a movie NOT a documentary.
I agree it was a good movie with great suspense. It had enough logic and plot to immerse you, overall it's more nuanced than an average slasher horror, but ey hater gonna hate
Boycotting any franchise over 40 years old has given me great peace of mind. No Rocky sequels, no Star Wars sequels, no Aliens, none of that old stuff. And I'm a gen x so I was brought up on that era - I'm just tired of corporations using nostalgia as a marketing tactic. I don't need anything from my youth reimagined or reintroduced. Give me original ideas - that's what made all of those franchises fun in the first place.
Same. There was a time when I always wanted more of those franchises since I liked the early good movies so much...but the sequels got worse and worse through the years so I'm not watching new ones anymore since a couple of years and reduced my collection to the less classics. So much better and reviews like this show me again and again that I don't miss out on anything.
Yes. That seems to be everywhere now, even in video games. No more original ideas. Just the same rehashed product dressed up in a new package. Has the human race ran out of ideas?
Andy's punchline while killing the alien with the pulse rifle to protect Rain should have been another shameless dad joke. Missed opportunity for the sake of 'member berries.
"You just got...Andy capped!" "Told you I'd be...Andy to have around.." "You looked like you needed an...Andy..." "Sorry to...parade on your Rain." Tell me when to stop I can do this all day.
The dad jokes lead to her getting the idea of using the anti gravity thing so it was very essential to the plot and even served a porpoise without being just a punchline. Imo way better.
@@deadshot0908 ah yes, someone can't come up with an idea on how to avoid something with out it being conveniently stated right before, sounds FUN. character who is a synth continues to have their quirks BAD.
This is why you need to watch movies BEFORE you watch reviews. I had a totally different experience from what's being said here, this movie gripped me from start to finish.
Yeah, I really enjoyed. I get that its silly the alien grows at a ridicuous rate, but just let it go and enjoy the movie. Looked beautiful too. Those planet rings, amazing stuff.
I remember the UK newspapers couldn't get enough of how awesome Sigourney looked strutting around with a flame thrower. She was celebrated like a superhero.
No "Alien" movie will ever compare to the original and its sequel BUT this one I would say is the only sequel since the first two that is worth a watch and I personally found it to be a lot of fun. The bar was low from the get go. I had fun with this one and as group we enjoyed it more than we thought we would.
A fun, ok watch for sure; and it had tremendous potential considering the beautiful production design and set pieces… but they had to mess it up with that god-awful, unnecessary CGI revival and a bunch of plot holes
That's what it was, a lot of fun. It wasn't trying to be anything too clever or suspenseful. It was a brilliant body horror, I really enjoyed seeing it in theatre The sounds of all the different machines and all that I really enjoyed, I thought that was great. The mining world looked and sounded awesome. CGI Ian Holm was a shame, however. Luckily I haven't watched any of the original films for a very long time, so I didn't notice all of the recycled lines.
It was better than I expected, only because I went in with low expectations. Overall a decent film that's not a patch on the original 2, which is more than I can say for most of the sequels since alien 3. The hammy reused dialogue really took me out of the film though, and they could have done without the not ash character altogether
@@giash1 Right and is why alien is a master piece, less is more. Aliens is much the same, first 50% of the movie builds so much tension and even mid point, the times you do see them, it's only sparingly and only to show threat.
As a fan of the Alien franchise, my hopes died when Fox cancelled the Alien movie that was going to be directed by Neill Blomkamp. A direct sequel to Alien 2 that was going to remove the third movie and resurection from the canon, and it was going to bring back Ripley and Hicks. Unfortunately, Fox chose the covenant BS over Blomkamp's project. I believe people are excited about Alien Romolus because is at least decent for the franchise.
@@rochskierthis fact continues to drive me mad. They were loaded with interesting concepts and plenty with good writing. Hell, there was even a trilogy all laid out.
There are only four installments in the Alien franchise as far as I'm concerned and the rest don't exist. These four things are as follows: Alien. Needs no introduction Aliens. Same as above. Alien Isolation. AMAZING game made by people who actually understood what it was that made the alien scary, and how to craft an artstyle that looks justlike the movies (if not better). Alien Ressurrection. No, not the movie, the game that's on the PS 1 and is quite franky a miracle for the hardware the devs were working with. Exceedingly atmospheric game that is only surpasse by Isolation (also brutal difficulty but IMO that matches the lore of how deadly the aliens are).
Hahaha I like to think he purposely said Prometheus as a subtle diss to a movie that tried to be both by the end. But who knows with The Drinker, maybe the Jack got his mind a bit confused 🥴
Give the guy a break folks. We have no idea how deep he is into the third bottle of Scotch by the time this was recorded. Haha. Yeah, I heard that and did a double-take. The Drinker's audience is made up of people that miss little. It's a sharp community.
It could easily be called Alien: 1, 2, 3, 4, Promethecovenant or just Alien: Prometheus for short due to the connection to all the other movies. I don’t care. I just ignored the 2 biggest sins (one being a deadly sin) and I really liked the movie.
Naw mate, I’m sure you’ve got some solid reasons, but I thought it worked pretty dang great, and had a wonderful theater experience. Maybe it’s just because I waited to watch the OG until after I saw Romulus, but the fan service didn’t distract for me, and I thought the story was executed pretty dang well. Obviously the OG is gonna be better, but dang, i thought it did a really solid job overall 👌🏼
I have a difficult time forgetting that the main character in "Prometheus" had had a parent die of Ebola, yet was okay with taking her helmet off on an alien planet because "the atmosphere is breathable". I just want an _Alien_ movie where the characters are smart enough to deserve to survive it...
You mean like John Hurt in that egg chamber?? I would've seen that organic movement & ran away as fast as I could shouting "F this for a game of spacemen!!"
at least they checked the atmosphere in prometheus and some even objected to removing the helmet; in covenant, they analyzed it for a second and disembarked like getting off a plane in some popular beach
Dont shit so hard on that, its a practical effect with a filter on top. Maybe it didnt worked but i like the idea to let a modern practical robot to look like a broken sci-fi robot. When he was on the small screens it looked good.
I really really went through the mental gymnastics of explaining to myself why there'd be a synth on the Romulus that looked exactly like the synth on the Nostromo 20 years earlier, wearing the same clothes even. Mass produced droids with the same skin maybe, but unfortunately nothing could beat 'fan service' as an explanation.
Never realized until now that the destruction of the Nostromo was intentionally 3 separate explosions. Always thought it was just a weird visual sequence 😂
I always figured it was 1) light from nuke -delay- 2) blast wave from nuke (i realise you don't get a blast wave in space, but I figured it a mistake on the film-makers behalf)-delay- 3) Physical debris ejected from the explosion
When you read the book novel, that comes off the back of the original script etc, its due to the self destruct blowing first, then the engines and fuel of the ship etc, then the Refinery its towing goes up last in an even bigger blast. There is no way any part of the ship would ever survive, certainly not floating wreckage with the name still on it like in Romulus!!! Its ridiculous. And then to find the creature and it still be alive, twenty years later after being stabbed through with a grapple hook, fried by engines and then floating in space with no air, pressure etc..is just as stupid. Its as daft as when Bobby Ewing steps out of the shower and everything after he died turns out to be just a dream, including his own death....
I have witnessed an extraordinary convergence of events. This video was released 34 minutes ago, it’s 10 minutes and 34 seconds long, and it’s 10:34 where I live! What is the cosmos trying to tell me?!
I loved it because it was totally different. It could stand on its own. Same goes for #3: different style once again and basically a different stand alone story. As for #4 and the rest, let's not tire ourselves too much.
That depends. For me, it fully destroyed the mystery / horror of the xeno. In "Aliens", the xenos are simply "bugs" controlled by a queen. Nevertheless, entertaining movie though.
Had they created a new IP with a similar premise it might have been better received. Speaking only for myself, the casting alone kills the movie. The absolute baby-faced characters who are supposed to be hardened blue-collar workers/corpo serfs really deals a blow to any sense of verisimilitude.
@@brianberthiaume2764 their age gives them reason to do stupid, reckless things. They have seen their parents die in the mines, they see their own future and it’s grim. It makes sense to have a young ensemble for this plot.
"Romulus is my first time watching an alien movie" Well, there's your problem, we'll talk again 20 years from now, when you've seen how you like your classic entertainment been turned to shit for new generations, because writers are creatively bankrupt
Watch Alien & Aliens and you might come to understand how bringing back a dead actor with bad CGI and directly quoting lines from those other movies completely break the immersion and ruin what could easily have been the best entry in the franchise since Aliens.
Don't worry about it. Hopefully this will encourage you to watch the originals and appreciate them. This is what Romulus was all about after all and it's to garner new audiences. Just leave Drinker to grumble about corporate greed and misery
I think the main reason why ppl love this movie, is that our standards for all of our big favourite franchises are so damm low we’ll take anything decent at this point t
When you have eaten watered cold rice porridge everyday for the past 20 years, a single piece of fried dog brain with mung bean soup is like a king's banquet - ancient chinese proverb, very ancient. 🤣
I don't agree that Alien broke all existing horror tropes. Like at all. It was novel for translating horror into a sci-fi setting, but it didn't do anything new for the genre as a whole. Even the director described it at times as "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" or "Jaws" in space.
Discussions after seeing it realized that Alien movies are essentially, "we are up sh!t creek without a paddle" and succeed when they concentrate on getting out of the creek and fail when they start discussing the essence and origin of the creek.
100% agree. Seeing as Ridley Scott’s woeful origin story was set long before the events of the original movies I thought Romulus would take the opportunity to move the franchise forward without it, like it never happened. For act one and two this was very much the case but the black goo and engineer nonsense found its way in and I was gutted. Just have them find a queen guys or even a new alpha xenomorph, not a flipping mutant engineer ffs.
Exactly, if I was stuck on safari with a few other people being huntered by a man eating pride of lions armed only with sticks and stones I shall not be debating the origins of said animals , if I wanted that I'd watch wildlife on one .
@@jameshuggins2520 An alpha xeno would have been a great idea. And moving forward, rather than tacking on crap from previous movies (that made no sense) would have improved the movie enormously.
Hahaha. Gold. After dousing my eyeballs with xenomorph blood after trying to watch this garbage movie I must go cleanse my soul with some Hudson and Vasquez quotes.
Andy was called a bitch by the guy who hates androids several times throughout the movie. So he learned it from him to say it at something/someone you really don’t like.
As well as the fact that the character who hated synthetics kept calling him b-tch. Maybe he picked up on that. The amount of nitpicking about this movie is far worse than the movie itself.
You obviously didn't watch the movie. It's how he speaks and the scene actually put a smile on my face. They made the right choice make Andy say it and not Rain because no matter how Rain said it, it would've probably been cringy. This however was unexpected and i liked it.
Ripley going back into the Queen Alien's hive alone with a flamethrower to save Newt with minutes left until the colony was about to explode was genuinely one of the most terrifying and badass things I've ever seen in any film. Despite stealing the same plot point, Rain going back to save Andy didn't have even close to the same level of tension
I agree but the problem is you all you all fans are having way too much nostalgia trip. Y'all hate these quotes. Y'all hate these references yet y'all are wanting aliens like you. Yourself. Just said it did not have the tension of aliens when Ripley went back for newt to face the queen. You're right cuz it wasn't a full Hive there was no Queen. There was no facehuggers. I'm sorry like what do y'all want y'all? If y'all want aliens go rewatch aliens. I'm honestly getting to the point where I could agree alien covenant wasn't that good Prometheus just obscure but this movie was actually good. It was really good and I think y'all are just thinking too damn critical on it. Like literally like one of the dudes this guy had on this podcast said he knew the movie sucked when he heard get away from her. You b**** I'm sorry you just weren't watching the first hour and a half of the movie like what is going on with y'all I get. There are critiques about this movie but we don't get an alien movie every year like a fast and further a dime a dozen and they're usually generally pretty decent. So if y'all don't like this movie give up, and stop putting your opinion on here
Spoilers: What broke that for me was that Rain was ready to abandon Andy on the new world with even less of a hazard. Or maybe again that fits in with the idea that corporations and bureaucracy are worse than a pack of alien killing machines.
Yes exactly. Aliens is a superb film and a worthy sequel to Alien. Romulus is what I expected it to be. Exactly what I expected! An average mish mash, best of bits take from the other films and Isolation the game. The fact its doing so well is simply because of this, and its not Prometheus. It literally is the Jar Jar Abrams version of Alien. Its the Alien series very own Force Awakens. I wonder if in about a years time people come back to their senses and finally see it for what it is, a poor remake / rip off. Just like Force Awakens was. But the audience is so desperate for some action, some decent Alien action after the Prometheus and Covenant miss fires they will go for anything Alien like that seems to look the part. I just cant believe how so much is lifted and recycled, its like someone's fan film. At least the did it on a sensible budget and that money shows on screen, unlike any Lucasfilm project say...
To be honest they don't like surprised when alien blood going everywhere after shooting. She specifically disabled gravity so blood will not rip the hull underneath. This is actually was very clever writing.
@@CompaDeArranke It did require a lot of suspension of disbelief. It would've been interesting if they had maybe used the leftover carcasses somehow to block the blood, like in AvP. But that could've also been executed poorly
The blood behaviour has always been inconsistent, at least from Aliens onwards. One moment it's eating through several steel decks of spaceship without stopping, and the next moment it's doing survivable damage to human flesh. Ripley running over the xenomorph in Aliens should have destroyed the APC, but it doesn't. Andy falling down the shaft atop the xenomorph and shooting it at point blank range should have covered him in acid blood and severely damaged him, but it doesn't.
@@TallicaMan1986 they made more of a feature of the blood in this movie, but I still don't think they were consistent with it. As I say, Andy shooting the xenomorph point-blank, and landing on top of it, should have caused serious acid damage to him - but unless I missed something, it didn't do anything. So much for "Got a wonderful defence mechanism. You don't dare kill it".
I know what you mean. Within 20 minutes of the beginning of Star Wars you knew everything you needed to know. Same for Alien. And it doesn’t feel like exposition. Amazing.
One trick I learned from fanfiction writing: HONE YOUR FOCUS. The more you focus on what your story is supposed to be and the more fat you cut out, the better the end product will be.
That’s what I’ve been doing with my own story I’ve been working on. Nothing drives me nuts more with new “stories” than a writer who clearly wants to write lore/worldbuilding and thinking that’s an adequate replacement for narrative.
@@pendragon0905 Depends really. The fat can be subplots, side characters, jokes, conversations... pretty much anything that doesn't drive forward the core narrative, main character arcs, and beginning/middle/end. An example that comes to mind for how not to do it is the Destiny games. It has a ton of worldbuilding and lore that actually quite cool and in-depth, at the expense of the narrative of the campaign which sucks. So much so that people play the main campaign and go, "Why are we playing THIS story when that one I read in the journal I picked up sounds way more interesting." An example of doing it right is The Hobbit. While there's a lot of side characters, history, locations, and races, it doesn't distract from the main narrative which is "Bilbo goes on a journey to steal a treasure horde from a dragon."
@@AngelicBeatdown I forget the names as it’s been years since I’ve been down that rabbit hole but I recall several battles like the one that made the Crucible Guardian famous and going, “Imagine if this was a single-player game and this was a mission. It would have been LIT.”
I like that there are no women in Warhammer. If they are actual hardcore fans I'd welcome them, but we all know that wherever women 'demand' access it's not to enjoy what we are doing but to take it away from us and destroy it.
@@pensandshakers I personally believe the women who deliberately ruin hobbies are in the minority, but they do use their "status" as women to get what they want, claiming it's for inclusivity or some other BS. It's hard not to notice.
They actually answer the question why Weyland-Yutani hasn't deployed a recovery team to the station. The planet where the movie starts is at an extremely remote location, at one point of the movie they tell us it takes 6 months for a message to actually reach corporate space, so then you need another many months to get the team to the space station. It is also obvious that the whole incident at the station took place only a few days earlier, and the reason they could detect the station on the planet is because it started to drift off from its intended orbit. Yes, they do not tell this to the viewer word by word, but it is pretty easy to put it together, and personally I like it when a movie lets the viewer user their brain a little bit.
So they can sent a hauler to find the alien AND have/build a base to research it, but they don't have a contingency plan? Yes, right, that makes total sense! *roll eyes*
Agreed. Everything you need to kniw is conveyed pretty easily and not cryptically for the audience to pick up on. Plus, scaveging is already stabilished to be a thing in the franchise's universe. In the first movie, the Nostromo answers the "distress signal" pretty much expecting to find no survivors, _but "scavenger's rights", they hope to earn extra pay with something they find to compensate for Weyland-Yutani's sub-par salary._
@@Brakiri Like that's anything new with Weyland-Yutani. Look at Aliens. What contigency they had for the colony stabilished on that planet? *Silence. Just send an ill-prepared team with ONE corpo agent to secretly retrieve the specimen.* Plus, from the damage at the Romulus-Remus, it's clear they tried MANY things (firing, possibly contentions, etc), *it just wasn't enough.* As it usually never is. One of the constants of this series: this corporation is always overestimating its abilities to control the Xenomorphs/Aliens.
@@Brakirilol yes… I’m in the military.. if you think back up plans behind government ran corporate plans are always there, you must be in for a big awakening when you grow up
We haven't an Alien movie that was even remotely decent for 30 years, so having something that was above average that wasn't full of "the message" is probably why everyone, including myself, are pretty happy with it.
Exact same thing that happened with Prey. After years of shitty Predator movies, people started treating a mid movie like Prey like the second coming of Christ.
@@CmdrSoCalno, that’s not a fair characterization. The maintenance guys were reasonable (“why don’t they just freeze him” for example), the android’s apparently irrational decisions were intentional (aside from trying to use a magazine as a weapon), woman whose name isn’t Ripley didn’t take any dumb decisions that I can think of, and Dallas’s only misstep was ordering the crew to ignore the quarantine protocol, which was understandable under the circumstances. Ripley, for her part, just about got herself killed over a cat, but the only one who had an animal level IQ was the guy who thought it’d be a swell idea to stick his face in what he recognized to be an alien egg.
@@jelanitarik8452 that's part of the fun and the atmosphere of the original films. Someone gets facehugged, it's confusing and upsetting, they and the crew think it was just a close call, they move on and forget about it... then boom! Chest burst. I don't understand how someone could direct an alien movie and gloss that over. But even Ridley himself messed it up later on.
@@DeliveryManBoyi was also completely annoyed with the nerf to the FH strength. like the fact these wasters smack away huggers at all makes riplys fight with 1 seem letdown. and lets not question how the hugger had a dong 3 times its length
Maybe because I'm old but all these actors look like their resume consists of being in a high school musical or whatever kids program is popular now on cable.
yes these new casting directors are terrible. they're nothing but self inserts of people who left school 10 years ago but still consider themselves kids
Alien: Romulus stands as an example of a movie having too much fan service. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a fun love letter to the franchise as a whole, but it's also disappointingly derivative. Still, if you take the movie as is, it's a good time the same way a roller coaster at Six Flags is a good time
Summed up good! It wasn't insultingly bad - except for the hybrid stuff - had it's moments, but in the end it just doesn't have the impact f the first 2.
This was cathartic. I was outnumbered by most of my friends who saw this. I had a very similar take on this and was wildly disappointed in the story, but the effects, cinematography and world building was reminiscent of the old movies.
The first two are always gonna be the good ones. The masterpieces in which every sci fi horror action movie Will inspire on. Recently i rewatch the first one and God damn, what an experince. The production design, the sets, the cinematography, the tension, the performances. Just amazing.
I did as well. It's funny because it feels like quite a simple movie and I've seen it so many times. And yet, every time I rewatch it, it entrances me and makes me forget everything else.
The bar was set so low after Prometheus and Covenant that anything resembling a real movie could clear it. And this looks like a real movie, albeit written by AI that was fed the scripts for all the previous Alien movies.
@@RepEvoxthe only issue I have with Prometheus is that characters who are supposed to be intelligent constantly make brain dead retarded decisions for absolutely no apparent reason. The plot, the acting, the effects, and the worldbuilding are all really good imo. It's just really disappointing because it had all of the right ingredients to he great. Just tweaking a few scenes so that the reasoning for certain character decisions actually makes sense under the circumstances would have made it significantly better. I get characters making stupid decisions, but it should at least make sense, either from the circumstances or from the characters' personalities. Characters making baffling decisions when they should know better is just contrived. Great idea for a movie, not great in execution.
The android dude saying the classic "Get away from her, you bitch" line in his monotone android voice really took me out of the moment, the reference really didn't seem necessary
It wasnt that random tho. The a*shole character said it to him before so while still being very fanservicy, its not completely unlogical like some people jump to assume
@@deadshot0908 It wasn't random but still failed miserably. He ONLY said it too him so that they could justify using the line later. It just didn't fit at all.
@zaerogartorias9890 I mean it makes sense that he says it to him tho. Its not really an uncommon thing to say lol. In general I just dont get why some people are so outraged by it. Yes its a member Berries moment, but this stuff comes naturally if you make a movie in such a franchise after so long time. Im pretty sure if not for Star wars and everyone else doing it too these days, it wouldnt even be smth people love to hate on sm. I can get why people think its unnecessary. But pretending like its ruining an overall very good movie is just bs. The criticism to the ai character is more understandable for me but then again its also not that random since both rook and ash are scientist robots and since this movie plays after alien, it makes way more sense that its this model then lets say thr fassbender one, ofc it could have been a new actor, but for the universe its not unlogical that it isnt.
I’m one of the people that loved this movie. All the points you made here are legit, there are some issues with the script and logic and a few of the references made me cringe big time but imo for the most part none of it was so jarring that it took me out of the experience. Sure I hated Prometheus and covenant but I really liked how they incorporated the black goo into Romulus. They had to do it to connect everything in the franchise and I was satisfied with how it was done. I feel like Prometheus and covenant could’ve been replaced by an explanation of the goo in this movie and we could’ve saved a lot of time and money. There were a lot of references to the previous movies but to me it felt more like a loving homage to the alien franchise. Sure some of them were shit but they were still a part of the franchise whether we liked them or not. It felt more genuine to me than just a bunch of unoriginal rip offs. Overall, they nailed the look and feel of the best parts of alien and the long runtime was not a problem for me. I loved that I could spend that much more time in the universe of the movie and I thought the humanoid xenomorph was great, loved the build up to it and it truly caught me off guard when it was revealed. Considering all the shit that’s excreted from the film industry as of late, all the studio interferences, politics, activism, all the other obligations film makers are required to accommodate, I’m glad Romulus turned out the way it did. The horror was good, the action was good, it was entertaining. That’s really the best we can hope for in a movie these days. I’m really feeling optimistic about the industry for the first time in a while, we’re starting to crawl out of the shithole.
Here’s my problem with Romulus. Firstly, the recovery of the original alien corpse is unnecessary. They say they spend 20 years looking for it and manage to find it floating in the wreckage of the Nostromo despite the alien being harpooned and blown out of the engine of the escape shuttle miles away from where the Nostromo detonated three times with a blast apparently more powerful than a nuclear bomb. There shouldn’t even be any wreckage for it. Why spend 20 years searching for it when the company clearly knows that there is a derelict ship on LV426 full of eggs? If they don’t know this then there is no way they could know about the alien corpse floating through spac or how to create facehuggers because ash must have told them or told muther. So why not just go to LV426 and recover the ship and save the 20 year search for the body? If I can get past that, how do they know how to create facehuggers without a queen, how do they know what a facehugger looks like and how to create one using only the DNA from the original alien? How do they then lose the Romulus space station if this bio weapon is so important to them, yet it’s floating only miles above one of their own colony planets? Clearly the writers went for horror and action over any plot thought
Yes, massive plot hole. There is no way they know there is an alien floating in space if they don't also know it came from the planet they redirected the Nostromo to. Also, abandoning the research spaceship is dumb. If they are afraid of going here, how are they planning to experiment on them in their labs? WY goes to incredibley lengths to retrieve an alien, but then doesn't want to go to ship next door because.... there are aliens in it?
Well, there might be wreckage, but the blast would have made it spread and continue to spread due to Newtons laws. It would not just be "floating" in space. The rest are definitely big plot holes, but everything after the original 3 are big plot holes.
I wonder if Alien fans like this film so much because, after years of being punished with pretentious or lazy stupidity, there's a film that's even slightly respectful or partially well done and stands out so much to the better against what came before.
Stockholm Fans "Look, I know the studio thinks of us as sugar addled wallets, but man it was cool to see the pulse rifles smoking hordes of aliens rather than sit through the directors take on his life philosophy, struggles with religion and his father. After having my nose rubbed in his shit, twice, this isn't so bad"
Jus saw new movie! I actually enjoyed! I always anticipated negative feedback! Sometimes we are too hard on these movies! Lol smh! To each his own! Ridley tried to tie some stuff in to the previous! I think he did a good job! 👍👏🙌🏽
Yeah, because once something is done once you can't spark it again that's just media in general. Every good movie in a franchise takes in a different direction, Alien was pure horror and Aliens was xeno-vietnam. This one was a mix of both and did well.
Credit where credit is due. The first shot of the adult hybrid ticked the fight or flight part of my brain. It's been a long time since a movie monster managed to do that.
I didn't like the movie due to plot issues. But alverez's film making must be OK, because during the movie I was genuinely tense for no plotting reason, and found it watchable.
@@jamesday1295If you haven’t already, watch 2013 Evil Dead. He truly shines as a director there and I thought the kills in Romulus would be just as brutal. Here he just decides to pay homage to all of the previous Alien movies with a few new things.
The worst part about all these modern alien and predator films is that you go back and look at some of the older comics recapped here on youtube and they genuinely have more intriguing and unique stories that will never see adaptations to the big screen.
I agree that the use of past lines and situations was poorly handled and should've been left out entirely, but my overall takeaway from the film was that it was visually captivating, entertaining, and a fun movie. Not on the level of Alien or Aliens, but better than Prometheus, which was my previous third favorite. The visual of the Romulus/Remus ship colliding with the ice rings was marvelous to see in IMAX, and I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff, so maybe that puts me on bias, but I still really enjoyed the movie as a whole.
It was a nice movie, it's a horror movie not a Christopher Nolan Oscar winning production lol, all alien movies have dumb aspects, it's just a horror film.
I'm so glad Drinker mentioned the shortened timeline between facehugger -> chestburster -> xenomorph. That's been a thing since the one Alien film we don't talk about, and it's always pissed me off how every director after the third film has played that card to avoid having any downtime. Heavens forbid we actually give the characters a chance to demonstrate real character.
Alien Resurrection for all its faults follows the gestation period of the alien just the same as the others. Next time pay more attention or read the script before talking crap!
@@RoaryUK I'd like to make an argument. I look at the gestation period of facehuggers of being highly conditional. It's clear that the 'seed' affects creatures differently based on their genetic composure such as a human or a dog, but we haven't really seen the impacts on the facehuggers due to Enviromental/time changes to themselves. In Romulus all facehuggers are frozen in cryo bags. How long have they been like this? We don't know. Were they cut out of their eggs or gassed when activated? Again, we don't know. When they are 'activated' in Romulus, they are overheated at temperatures near/above the same temp of a human body. Does that environmental condition create the option for an accelerated Xeno fetus? Don't know. We know experiments were being performed on them and saw pieces of them scattered among test tubes and such. Has human intervention impacted the conditions of their operation? Perhaps.
And also, aliens need to consume other bodies in order to grow - they don't just grow out of thin air. This movie glossed right over the need to consume bodies to grow, and greatly reduced grow time altogether. Like the alien baby growing into a full-grown adult in a matter of minutes with not eating of anything until he was a full grown adult was just ridiculous.
@@mr_barlow 'You can't criticize the new film unless you've done a 'double blind placebo randomized longevity trial' ' a.k.a. they don't have to be consistent because its fiction. Don't write their movie for them.
@@docjohng the offspring wasnt fully grown until it fed off its parent, as its feeding you can see it actively grow and develop its literally explained in the movie that xenomorph anatomy doesnt require energy and sustenance the way we do
Thank you for pointing out how great David Jonsson's performance was! I saw this movie with two buddies, and they looked at me weird for gushing out about the actor's role as the android. "Dude, he played a robot, anyone can do that", they said. But I was swept away by his movements and facial expressions. He was my favourite character out of the whole movie, to be honest :)
Ripley : What was your special order? Ash : You read it. I thought it was clear. Ripley : What was it? Ash : Bring back life form. Priority One. All other priorities rescinded. Parker : The damn company. What about our lives, you son of a bitch? Ash : I repeat, all other priorities are rescinded. Ripley : How do we kill it, Ash? There's gotta be a way of killing it. How? How do we do it? Ash : You can't. Parker : That's bullshit. Ash : You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility. Lambert : You admire it. Ash : I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality. Parker : Look, I am... I've heard enough of this, and I'm asking you to pull the plug. [Ripley goes to disconnect Ash, who interrupts] Ash : Last word. Ripley : What? Ash : I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies. [Ash smiles]
Read the novelisation. Ash’s final words are totally different but equally chilling: ‘A last word,’ Ash said quickly. ‘A legacy, if you will.’ Ripley hesitated. ‘Well?’ ‘Maybe it is truly intelligent. Maybe you should try to communicate with it.’ ‘Did you?’ ‘Please let my grave hold some secrets.’
I actually really liked it. It gave me the original Alien and Aliens vibes. I liked the practical sets and keeping to the original. Sure there were some cheesy nostalgia bait moments and convenience situations but I felt those situations were more to drive the plot but I actually felt some suspense and anxiety, especially since they're all nobodies so you don't know if any were going to live. I was a bit confused when they described the timeline and almost felt like this was supposed to be the link between first two movies where this caused the colony to be taken over but realized this is a separate event
@zogwort1522 it's also convenient the crew came in time to save Ripley from the android too. There are plenty of conveniences in storytelling. It's just when you get older, you start noticing it more.
@zogwort1522 When you learn about Joseph Campbell's formula, the formula used in all successful movies, you will learn this is just part of storytelling
@zogwort1522 both of them are perfect examples Joseph Campbell's hero's journey. Especially independence day. Made sure to hit all the points. The Great use of the call to adventure, meeting the mentor, crossing the threshold, trials and failures, growth and new skills, the death and rebirth, the revelation, final changes, atonement, gets gift, returns changed. Even makes sure to follow the proper flow of tension graph as well. Brilliant Joseph Campbell example movie.
@zogwort1522 death and rebirth are both physical and/or metaphorical which both happened. Even one of them happens with the revelation when they dissect the client to reveal that it's just a suit, they are alive still, they can communicate telepathically, that area 51 knew about them and had captured a previous ship years ago and why they want to destroy humans. It's a massive revelation in the story.
I thought the opposite. Why would you go see an Alien movie and actually want to barely see it? I get the suspense factor but an Alien movie with barely any Alien is just a space marines struggling in space movie. I think even Romulus didn't show the Xenos enough.
It was a very good movie and all the "shameless stealing" you complain about is actually just respectful and affectionate homages to the classic lines we love
Drinker must be heartbroken about last night news about the cancellation of his favorite show ever
What show is that? The Crapolyte?
@@S_raBNo its Acolyte, the best show of this year. Going to win multiple nobels
He'll find a new grift, don't worry.
Nobels? 😂 Good one@@Finkaisar
@@Finkaisarthere's no Nobel award for war criminals
Disney bought 20th Century Fox.
Disney now owns the Alien Franchise.
The Xenomorphs were born of a queen.
All the Xenomorphs are now Disney Princesses.
Alright. It checks out.
noooooooooooooo now i am thinking of DEI xenomorphs fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
take my like
yes, this is like a 10 year old meme lol
And predator is a trustafarian and goes to whole foods
Looking forward to Alien vs Ducktales
It's really incredible to look back at the original Alien and realize they managed to collect seven truly excellent character actors in one moderately budgeted sci-fi horror flick. Peter Doyle doesn't get nearly enough credit for assembling that cast.
100%
I wouldn't call it budgeted. 11 million in 1979 wasn't nothing. Life of Brian that same year had a budget of 4 million, Rocky 2 had 8 mil.
Yes, exactly. If you'd replace the original cast by the typical cast of today's newcoming actors, even the rest of the artists involved in the original movie wouldn't be able to safe it from becoming slock cinema. Alien is perfect. Everything about it is perfect. Nobody will ever be able to catch that lighning in a bottle again. Cameron came close, but even the excellent Aliens is a tad less artistic than Alien.
Those actors and their Robert Altman dialogue and camaradarie made the film even more than it was and Sigourney is simply irreplaceable no matter how capable the new actress is.
I mean Veronica behaves like she's actually scared out of her mind,sometimes nearing Shelley Duvall territory
first film was groundbreaking, this film is just checking all the dei boxes and being exactly the same as every other modern movie. talk about tarnishing a legacy
I usually agree with Drinkers opinion on movies, so I also respect this one even though I disagree. I liked the movie very much.
The sibling/friend relationships of the crew (there were actually three pairs of siblings in the crew) was a nice, original take. It felt quite intimate, underlined by the claustrophobic environment and contrasted by brutality of the xenos and cold pragmatism of the Ash-like android. The actors did good job and the cast looked believable. I suppose Rain was never meant to be a copy of Ripley, but instead portray a softer character, which I liked too. The action was great (the flying through acid in no gravity was really quite innovative and cool imo). One thing I like most about Alien movies is those scarce panoramic visuals - and this movie delivered a few great shots of the planet, the ring system etc which were stunning. The dystopian environment of the colony was good to see too. Visuals overall was beautiful, what even Drinker admitted.
Yes, the movie has it's flaws ofc, however, imo it could be placed next to the original trilogy with honor.
Andy’s actor was easily the best actor in the movie. Studios should definitely give non big name actors a chance to shine
He smashed it for sure.
He did a good Sad Clown robot impression, kind of an old school Android who wants to be human. When he sacrificed the one chick to save the 2 other Humans was
more interesting than anything in an Alien movie since the first 2
The whole cast was good imo. Casting relatively unknown new actors for the main cast was a good choice.
He carried the whole thing, and was the single relevant element that mattered among a group of undeveloped characters you can barely sympathize with…
I thought he was the worst. He was basically a big virtue signal.
Drinker after seeing Acolyte got cancelled: "Well shit, back to work."
NICE
hell yeah
When your "job" is just to hate things and spread your hate to other weakminded losers. Back to work eh
Fear not, another terrible show shall replace The Acolyte.
🚱 *_"THERE'S SUMP-IN' 🖐IN THA WUAT-A!!! "_* 🌊
I saw an IMDB review that described Romulus the best "An Alien Greatest Hits album sung by a cover band."
As I get to lazy to put the disk in the computer i do find myself watching react content
That and covers/karaoke vtubers and it's so good you think a few more people together they could make their own music. Some do.
Then some AI music with the feel and the beat, sometimes good singing too.
Funny AI mash up of x/y/z mix. x/y genre in z person's style and with a click ya can transpose till one works
@@jayeisenhardt1337 Anything is good ... in small doses. Measured. Calculated. But human laziness and absolute privilege is undoing that.
"An Alien Greatest Hits album sung by a cover band." LOL. The memberberries are strong with this one.
Except they mixed all the songs together so that result is one song that makes no sense and isn't enjoyable.
The trailers indicated this would be just a stand alone Horror movie but we got a Aliens-sampler that was ok
but not as good as a real movie w/ its own identity
I think the realization of "I just watched the whole thing and I can't remember anyone's name" is the malady of our age
Dude😂 I even forgot the plot and stopped watching half way through. Ppl said this movie is good?
@@wmd13194 But it is good?
@@Ebh55. No.
@@johnsmith-i5j7i Si.
@@Ebh55. It is a good film especially by todays standards.
The thing I most loved about the original Alien was the long gaps of silence, in which you could subtly hear the humming and whirring of the spacecraft. That really added to the sense of foreboding even though most of the time nothing actually happened.
It’s an effect you very rarely see in modern movies.
Welcome to the tiktok generation bey!
That would require truly gifted writers and producers still be present and accounted for in Hollywood; fact is anyone with real talent - got out of Dodge while the getting was good realizing that only crap was going to be acceptable anymore.
The shots in this movie are cut too quickly in some parts and I don’t like the handheld camera for certain scenes, I did like the movie overall though
Still my favorite movie to go to sleep with Aliens and The Thing just because of that.
@@stephan2849 You're talking about Romulus not the original Alien right?
My grandmother always told me: "No matter what they teach you in school, the WeylandYutani Androids were non binary"
A proud latina woman should be able to love a Xeno man!
Well xenomorphs don't reproduce by themselves so... Any sexual distinction is useless.
Well technically they have no gender as they are just machines
😂
Andy seemed slightly retarded. Did anyone else notice that??? All the other androids were smart. But then it hit me: Disney items that franchise right? It's a Disney sidekick!!! Dumb but well meaning. A typical Disney character. I wondered why he just didn't fit. Also why on earth does he malfunction every time he hits the floor?
Xenomorphs being destroyed by corporate greed is actually canon funny enough
Xenomorphs promoting ****THE(33)LGQBT MESSAGE****
@@thet-bone6628 This was also my immediate first thought. Though often, the Xenos come out on top to be fair.
They don't like competition.
hah I actually like the movie (despite a couple obvious things).. but that is funny
How meta of them to become Weyland Yutani
Turning off the gravity so she could kill the aliens without decompressing the ship was brilliant. Why would you pretend that they were suprised by the acid blood floating when that was a deliberate decision made by the characters? I think you missed the mark on this one.
Great scene. I really enjoyed that 1
Strange that she could just turn off the gravity where she was at the time down some random corridor
@@mrsmokingskittles148 wierd. Almost as of the movie was written that way. Just like it was lucky ripley found newt in some random vent in a complex that was a s big as a city.
Funny how their corpses just despawned after that. Just completely disappeared
@@thetombuck You gana nick pick romulus. you better start nitpicking aliens and alien to be consistent.
Drinker was so drunk that he called the movie Alien Prometheus at 1:30 🤣
I thought I heard that correctly! 😂
I thought the same thing! 🤣😂 can you blame him tho?
@@OsellaSquadraCorse nah he was just drunk.
One of my eyebrows went up at that
Alien Prophylactic
Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?
Vasquez : No. Have you?
I miss the Paxton!
I miss the Paxton!
I still remember that dialogue, too!
Somebody said alien, she thought they said illegal alien
@@lb-in2sx and signed up. That is a true story. Janette signed up thinking it was an immigration movie at first lol.
I was disappointed there was no Romulans in Alien Romulus
To be fair, there were plenty of Klingons...
I kept waiting to see what was going on at the Remus station...
I don't watch Star Trek but even then, I keep having to stop myself from calling Alien Romulus 'Alien Romulans'!
We are the Borg. You will play tennis. Resistance is futile.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I actually liked that the corporation is trying to use the aliens as a miracle vaccine, not a weapon.
Why? Because it, 'feels good'? Promotes corporations as benevolent entities?
@@samr.england613Partially because it's more nuanced and partially because it's more realistic. The aliens will never be as useful a weapon as guns or nukes, but humanity will always need better health
we see the mouse (after it is healed by the black goo) being ripped apart from the inside. Just because Rook/Ash gives a voiceover about how WT is trying to help people, doesn't mean you have to believe him.
WY will try to use the aliens for every possible field, including medicine. Using them just as a biological weapons is so basic. WY want to spread and colonize other worlds, but as noted by Ash/Rook, colonists (or humanity in general) are ill suited for dangers of outer space. They hardly do this out of goodness of their hearts, obviously, they just want to be more effective.
@@KleinABthat only really happened because the vaccine they were making failed though
“I am become Drinker. The destroyer of dreams”
That should be his new slogan 😂
The first time I listened to that line, I heard something … completely … different. 🤣
When your drunken uncle shows up at your birthday party.
Considering the trailer to his movie, it's quite the fitting slogan
Whos dreams? Idgaf if he liked it
sounds like a new marvel villain
You know why the original Alien stood as a slasher film? It’s because every character wasn’t the stereotypical idiot like in every horror movie. Everyone’s decision made sense based on their rank on the ship and wasn’t idiotic. Ripley refuses to let kane onboard because of quarantine rules but ash does it because of his programming. Textbook example is they have to go find the cat in the engine room otherwise he’ll keep showing up on the scanner while they’re trying to find the xenomorph. You actually care about every character who dies because they make logical decisions, they’re not just generic horror movie cannon fodder
They basically did everything right, but the alien was always a few steps ahead.
The alien hunting them down 1 by 1 was great, like a hunter after prey. Every alien movie after is just action of humans and aliens doing dumb things because insert action scene here.
Also, Ripley was a believable female lead. Probably one of only 3-4 in cinema history. Everyone went into that movie thinking Tom Skerrit was gonna be the action star, and he got hugged in an air vent at the start of the movie.
The movie was created by adults with adult actors.
Totally agree. That's why the first two are the only really great movies of the franchise.
The first two Alien movies were ALL they needed to be. Just like Terminator and T2. Everything has a beginning and an end for a reason.
By that logic, Alien 3 is the end. And with the facehugger sound during the credits of Aliens, we kinda got the hint way back before Alien 3 came out.
@@jonathanw1019 Nah, nothing happened after Aliens.
That's just James Cameron being a legend.
Dude duped people into thinking that both Alien and Terminator were franchises.
Yes! Best comment yet.
I disagree. I read the comics and would love to see cinematic versions of what I'm limited to seeing be read frame by frame. There is a Terminator VS Aliens VS Predator comic that I would 💦💦💦💦💦💦 if it came to theaters.
I loved Prometheus. It just has a vibe too it. And that intro score ❤️
Prometheus was great until the last 20 min or so.
Yeah, I love it as well.
One thing I really liked about Alien was that when I first saw the movie you didn't know who had the main role, this added a layer of suspense as you didn't know who would make it to the end.
In this Alien film, you knew right away who has the main role, and who would have the lead cast plot armor.
right!
Get over it
It was the first thing I looked for: will the first person shown be the survivor?
well to be fair what added to that is every aliens movie ever has had a female lead so you've come to expect it by the time Romulus comes around so that's not really the fault of the movie but rather a fault of us being accustomed to the franchise
Ringadingding
Honestly, the movie was wayyyy better than I was expecting. But that's because my expectations for movies are wayyyy low.
This movie is lore breaking trash loaded with member berries and high end visuals. Enjoy the filth plebs. They got you hook line and sinker.
And you've forgotten that all the good bits are from the first movies.
@@peterc3262 Ash. Can you see this?
It wasn't that good
@@reaper_exd7498 most modern movies don’t even have the capacity to give viewers member berries. I’ll take what I can get lol
I'm so happy that they only made two Alien movies, kinda like how they only made two Terminator movies 😇
Preach!
YES! And only one Predator film... oh and only one Highlander film too... I like your timeline!
And one Matrix movie
And one Star Wars Trilogy that hasn't been remastered.
Never get tires watching the originals. The only worthy to have on Blu Ray disc
Just watched it. Freaking loved it.
The original was so great because Ripley wasn't obviously the main character, you didn't know who was going to live or die. The person who did die first to the chest burst scene had more screen time to Ripley by the time he met his end. The problem with every entry since then is we know who the main character is, so there is no tension; we know who is going to live and die within the first moments. Was anyone surprised that Rayne and her Service Robot survived her alien encounter? No? It's because the film telegraphs her importance and emotional arch within the first few minutes of the film. That's not how you do horror!
I think youre onto to something here.
You’re right. They could’ve at least gone the Rogue One route and actually had the balls to kill off everyone by the end.
Very interesting. I havn't necessarily considered that before.... Ripley becomes the main character naturally and due to circumstance...
Wait... You are right.!
It's dumb how people try to defend female lead action movies by using Alien as an example. Alien is not an action film, it's a horror film. Ripley is more a scream queen, not an action hero.
Romulus made me forget that Ridley Scott killed Elizabeth Shaw off screen and turned Michael Fassbender into the High Evolutionary of the Xenomorphs. So it has that going for it.
Not to mention that Shaw's dead body was an INCREDIBLY disrespectful reference to a painting of a real life woman that H.R. Giger loved, who killed herself due to severe depression.
UGH and that half-baked Adolf analogy Scott tried to shoehorn into Fassbender's character! Ridley Scott needs a CT-scan. He's gone loopy.
Ridley Scott's humancentric narcissism as he fell back onto the trite "humans were the real monsters all along" zombie movie trope, as if the universe wasn't capable of spawning greater horrors without mankind's assistance. Imagine if Dune's worms could travel between solar systems, some people would still be siding with it over humanity.
@@casbyness Yeah that was unnecessary.
@@Sonny_AA The only thing that really bothers me is that things are left so vague. We don't even know what kind of planet the one from Covenant was. We were supposed to see the Engineer's homeworld after Prometheus. We just got a random lifeless planet, no more lore or explanation about anything that happened in the first movie. We just saw David recreating the Xenomorph he saw in the mural he saw in Prometheus, so it probably isn't even the "real" alien. Like, why did it have to be like this?
I think people are raving about it so much because it's a modern movie that isn't too bad comparatively, and isn't overloaded with subpar CGI.
I think it will have the Jurassic World, Force Awakens effect where they watch it a first time, like it and then upon replay when they think about, they will decide it's pretty mediocre.
Same reason there were people praising Rise of the Beasts, because they were desperate for a Transformers movie that isn't a big pile of shit.
Well it is the best alien movie since Aliens😅
reported him for using cam footage, spoiling the ending hopefully the video get's taken down!
@@josebarrozo7620 Good god, I want to argue against that point, but I really can't. For as amazing as the first two films are, the entire rest of the series ... woof.
It's finally happened, I disagree with the Drinker. The movie is actually pretty good that is unless you're an Alien scholar.
Totally agree. Only people that seem critical of it are the Alien ‘pure bloods’. Was it the best film ever? No. But I had a great couple hours watching it!
At least they didn't steal the greatest line of this franchise:
"I'm ready, man, check it out. I am the ultimate badass! State of the badass art! You do not wanna fuck with me. Check it out! Hey Ripley, don't worry. Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you! Check it out! Independently targeting particle beam phalanx. Vwap! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phased plasma pulse rifles, RPGs, we got sonic electronic ball breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks..."
R.I.P. Bill Paxton
*sigh*
Such a great actor. He nailed that role.
Definitely best line of the franchise, I always laughed at the “sharp sticks” part haha.
Knock it off Hudson!!!! Somebody wake up Hicks
@@PhilipWeberAB He sure did!
When do I get out of this chicken**** outfit?
Avoiding acid in zero gravity was a fun scene though.
I did not expect my warhammer hobby to catch a stray bullet by the Drinker. Well played
🤣
And to be fair: despite the cliche, there ARE women playing Warhammer, not even that few. And they are not less attractive than others on average.
Until Henry Cavill shows up with his wife.
@@darnokx9277 sure
@@darnokx9277 I played since 2002 and have yet to meet a female that plays 40k, let alone an attractive one.
For once, I really disagree with your take. 'Alien vs. Predator' has its cool moments, and the third 'Alien' film is also great, packed with fantastic ideas. I still appreciate both 'Prometheus' and 'Covenant.' In this case, the filmmakers actually did what you've often asked other studios to do: they catered to their target audience. The film was well-crafted and fit into the universe, especially considering it was directed and written by someone new to the franchise. It's full of interesting ideas-some better than others-but overall, it delivered exactly what I expect from an 'Alien' movie.
People are so starved for good movies now, when a good movie comes out they think it's great. I understand.
Exactly. Anything that raises the bar above absolute dogshit is a masterpiece
Some-what good became the new great.
Not sure if I think its outstanding/great, but its passable enough that I can enjoy it. This isn't going to be a cultural touchstone like the first 2 films, but I don't feel like I wasted my time or money going and watching it.
Yep, reminds me of the "hot by proxy" phenomenon you see a lot in the military. "A deployment 8, is a 4 back home" ive seen dudes throw away beautiful marriages with very attractive wives for these hogs and its crazy, but thats reality for ya, shit doesnt make sense.
Feed people garbage for 2 decades and suddenly a slice of baloney tastes like a T-bone steak. Mediocre is the new Masterpiece.
Can I just say it's nice of the studio to pay homage to the lore of Alien by being exactly like the greedy Weyland-Yutani corporation?
They did their greed kind of right LOL
It's disney baby so yeah
The very thought that crossed my mind halfway thru this video!
It’s so bad I almost want to start defending Wetland-Yutani. They at least cared about the shareholders or something
Weyland Yutani is an anagram of Disney Land (just kidding...that's a lie)
When you have been eating shit for the last 20 years, a bologna sandwich looks just as good as filet mignon.
I think if Scott hadnt been involved the movie actually would have been good. I can tell what is Scotts handiwork.
What's ironic about this review is that Drinker has been caught in that scenario before with Fallout. He overlooked all the w0ke elements of that show because he's been fed filth for nearly a decade.
Quite true.
EXACTLY! Do you know how great it is to have a female character thats NOT a overly assertive girlboss yass queen?
@@jimmydasani8922 well the chick from Covenant didnt seem to be. But at the same time she didnt really seem to be anything but depressed.
Man. I am so glad I didn't listen to you. Went and saw the film. And well, yes it did have some of the same tropes from the previous Alien movies, it was well put together and it flowed greatly with a lot of tension and a great climax at the end. The visuals and sonic portions of the film were absolutely stunning. Monumental when it came to exterior shots and the weight of the space scenes. The camera angles were epic and the sets were obviously built with care. The amount of detail in everything was immense. It felt like the original Alien film to a T. They got everything right including the details of the sound and how Mother worked. It was just wonderful. I would say the only rough spot was the CGI used for Rook... but it was believable enough and it was a pleasure to see that character brought to life again. I think you and Nerdrotic and some of the other guys on UA-cam have become extremely critical to the point where you can't enjoy things anymore. That is a shame because it was a fantastic movie, IMO.
Yeah I agree. The Rook scenes kinda took me out of it but overall it was fun.
I dont understand how you can say the movie was well put together, when the way it was put together is the most jarring flaw of this movie. The number of plot holes and just plain stupid writing is spoiling everything that is great in it. I don't blame you for liking it, just be honest about what is clearly wrong with it.
@@neozes different strokes for different folks. Movie was fun and beautiful.
Aliens in 1984 set up so many possibilities and the future of the franchise should have been amazing.
Here were 40 years later, and nothing has come remotely close. Hollywood just fails. Time after time after time.
Isn’t aliens 1986?
@@echoechoecho7142 To be honest, while I'm one of those nutbags who kinda _likes_ Alien 3 - despite the pure _bullshit_ the movie opens with - I also wouldn't lose any sleep if a future sequel (hopefully, a _good_ one) came along that completely retconned its events out of existence. And no, not in a way similar to Terminator: Duck Phuck, either. Alien: Resurrection was just pure crap, though. To hell with that movie. May it rot on the scrap heap of cinematic history where it belongs.
1986.
@@Valkinsenn Covenant was way worse than anything before it.
Spot on
I wish they made more characters like Ripley. She wasn't a "strong independent woman" just a badass character.
She wasn't even a "badass" (that would be Sarah Connor), she was just a very competent character. Although these days just being competent at all makes you relatively a badass, so...
She was a "strong independent woman", just not an "unvbelivable strong independent superwoman"
Exactly. 100% agreed
@@gmonkman And that's why modern woke audiences hate her - god forbid you have to actually put some effort to be good! It's so much easier to just Didn't Earn It than actually work for something.
A character like her or Sarah Connor can't be written in current year, because it was maternal instinct that made both of them into some of the greatest action heroes of all time.
And considering attacking that maternal instinct is at the cornerstone of the agenda and that even the definition of what a woman is is controversial these days it's all over for good female characters. I mean, Barbie is as "good" as it gets these days, so you can see where things are going.
Bill Paxton acting in Aliens is still one of my favourites. We're all Fucked Man! 😂
@@mattwells5022 "Game over, man! Game _over!"_
"We're on an express elevator to Hell, going _down!"_
"How do I get outta this _chickenshit_ outfit?"
Love those lines. lol
F**king A
@@ValkinsennI personally love “we’re in the pipe 5 by 5”
Yup! Classic!
I love when he goes through the list of weapons in their itinerary to Ripley, including phase pulse plasma rifles, and ends on sharp pointy sticks. I never picked up on that until my last recent viewing and it cracked me up.
Watched it and liked it. Has the Drinker made a fair assessment? Yeah, he's pretty spot on however, I'm just a simple creature and I don't review movies for a living so I can sit down, completely switch off and enjoy a simple movie, even with its many... many faults.
Something to many people forget "turn off brain" watch and enjoy It really isn't that complicated QUIT OVER THINKING IT, It's a movie NOT a documentary.
So you liked the Acolyt and Captain Marvel then?
@dylanlewis7406 when I say switch off, I don't mean completely flatline!! 😁
I agree it was a good movie with great suspense. It had enough logic and plot to immerse you, overall it's more nuanced than an average slasher horror, but ey hater gonna hate
@@dylanlewis7406goofball 🤡🤡
Boycotting any franchise over 40 years old has given me great peace of mind. No Rocky sequels, no Star Wars sequels, no Aliens, none of that old stuff. And I'm a gen x so I was brought up on that era - I'm just tired of corporations using nostalgia as a marketing tactic. I don't need anything from my youth reimagined or reintroduced. Give me original ideas - that's what made all of those franchises fun in the first place.
Well said!
Thankfully Back to the Future part 4 hasnt been made. Zemeckis said that the show should stay in its respective era.
I've become so anti sequel as I've gotten older. It's become even worse on the video game side of things.
Same. There was a time when I always wanted more of those franchises since I liked the early good movies so much...but the sequels got worse and worse through the years so I'm not watching new ones anymore since a couple of years and reduced my collection to the less classics. So much better and reviews like this show me again and again that I don't miss out on anything.
Yes. That seems to be everywhere now, even in video games. No more original ideas. Just the same rehashed product dressed up in a new package. Has the human race ran out of ideas?
Andy's punchline while killing the alien with the pulse rifle to protect Rain should have been another shameless dad joke. Missed opportunity for the sake of 'member berries.
"You just got...Andy capped!"
"Told you I'd be...Andy to have around.."
"You looked like you needed an...Andy..."
"Sorry to...parade on your Rain."
Tell me when to stop I can do this all day.
The dad jokes lead to her getting the idea of using the anti gravity thing so it was very essential to the plot and even served a porpoise without being just a punchline. Imo way better.
@@rdreese84 what did one miner say to another miner?
-Dig this (shoots)
@@deadshot0908 ah yes, someone can't come up with an idea on how to avoid something with out it being conveniently stated right before, sounds FUN. character who is a synth continues to have their quirks BAD.
Oohhh, great call
The best Alien-franchise product in recent years was Alien: Isolation
Somebody didn‘t play Aliens Dark decent
@@BigCheeseHD fire team elite is fun too !
Outstanding game. Chewed up a lot of hours playing that game. Scared the shit out of me.
@@Chris-gw2xgnot even close to as good
“You are being hysterical, why not ask me about Sevastapools safety protocols?”
This is why you need to watch movies BEFORE you watch reviews. I had a totally different experience from what's being said here, this movie gripped me from start to finish.
For real dude. People are impossible to please. I have friends I just won't see a movie with because they over critique everything. It's infuriating
Yeah, I really enjoyed. I get that its silly the alien grows at a ridicuous rate, but just let it go and enjoy the movie. Looked beautiful too. Those planet rings, amazing stuff.
I didn't watch this review. I watched the movie. The movie sucked.
100% agreed. The movie was great. People just watched Alien(s) as kids and can't repro the same child experience.
@@jkmaksy the movie was crap.
I remember the UK newspapers couldn't get enough of how awesome Sigourney looked strutting around with a flame thrower.
She was celebrated like a superhero.
Too bad she never took off her top.
Shes one of the best female protags of all time.
She was.
Now 'heros" are celebrated for being completely oblivious... Smh.
Lies... strong, independent female characters never existed before 2015 or so.
We live in a age were a video game "Alien Isolation" is better and more entertaining than a Hollywood picture Alien Romulus.
Idk why that’s meant to sound like an insult. Many games are better than movie versions.
The director literally says he was inspired by it when he made the film
next up you will say that the prometheus and covenant movies were somehow "better".
@thathandsomedevil0828 No real fan will praise Prometheus, it's still dog poo
@@raouljoseph1411 "real fan" argument 🙄
No "Alien" movie will ever compare to the original and its sequel BUT this one I would say is the only sequel since the first two that is worth a watch and I personally found it to be a lot of fun. The bar was low from the get go. I had fun with this one and as group we enjoyed it more than we thought we would.
A fun, ok watch for sure; and it had tremendous potential considering the beautiful production design and set pieces… but they had to mess it up with that god-awful, unnecessary CGI revival and a bunch of plot holes
That's what it was, a lot of fun. It wasn't trying to be anything too clever or suspenseful. It was a brilliant body horror, I really enjoyed seeing it in theatre
The sounds of all the different machines and all that I really enjoyed, I thought that was great. The mining world looked and sounded awesome.
CGI Ian Holm was a shame, however. Luckily I haven't watched any of the original films for a very long time, so I didn't notice all of the recycled lines.
Agreed
Yeah, my feelings too. It looked the business, but the plot went a little nuts at the end.
It was better than I expected, only because I went in with low expectations. Overall a decent film that's not a patch on the original 2, which is more than I can say for most of the sequels since alien 3. The hammy reused dialogue really took me out of the film though, and they could have done without the not ash character altogether
Hollywood has forgotten the biggest part of Horror, suspense. The fear of something is always greater than seeing it.
Like in Alien. Don't get to see the actual alien much.
@@giash1 Right and is why alien is a master piece, less is more.
Aliens is much the same, first 50% of the movie builds so much tension and even mid point, the times you do see them, it's only sparingly and only to show threat.
As a fan of the Alien franchise, my hopes died when Fox cancelled the Alien movie that was going to be directed by Neill Blomkamp. A direct sequel to Alien 2 that was going to remove the third movie and resurection from the canon, and it was going to bring back Ripley and Hicks. Unfortunately, Fox chose the covenant BS over Blomkamp's project.
I believe people are excited about Alien Romolus because is at least decent for the franchise.
There is no way sigourney would have reprised her role again after resurrection.
I'd only add that there are literally dozens of Alien comics that Fox could and should have adapted before even considering a story like Covenant.
Alien 2 is famously a terrible movie! Why would you want a sequel to that?
I wish we saw that film.
@@rochskierthis fact continues to drive me mad. They were loaded with interesting concepts and plenty with good writing. Hell, there was even a trilogy all laid out.
I think people have been so starved of a fun alien movie since 1986 that anything not trash seems like a masterpiece.
At this point all my beloved franchises have been turned into sludge. anything barely serviceable feels like sitting down after a 12 hour shift.
It's legitimately good.
more like starved for fun movie.
There are only four installments in the Alien franchise as far as I'm concerned and the rest don't exist.
These four things are as follows:
Alien. Needs no introduction
Aliens. Same as above.
Alien Isolation. AMAZING game made by people who actually understood what it was that made the alien scary, and how to craft an artstyle that looks justlike the movies (if not better).
Alien Ressurrection. No, not the movie, the game that's on the PS 1 and is quite franky a miracle for the hardware the devs were working with. Exceedingly atmospheric game that is only surpasse by Isolation (also brutal difficulty but IMO that matches the lore of how deadly the aliens are).
@@carljohan9265 alien isolation in vr is probably the best horror experience iv ever had.
1:27 Did you mean Romulus?
Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that slip up
Kind of a big cock up that one.
Hahaha I like to think he purposely said Prometheus as a subtle diss to a movie that tried to be both by the end. But who knows with The Drinker, maybe the Jack got his mind a bit confused 🥴
Give the guy a break folks. We have no idea how deep he is into the third bottle of Scotch by the time this was recorded. Haha. Yeah, I heard that and did a double-take.
The Drinker's audience is made up of people that miss little. It's a sharp community.
It could easily be called Alien: 1, 2, 3, 4, Promethecovenant or just Alien: Prometheus for short due to the connection to all the other movies. I don’t care. I just ignored the 2 biggest sins (one being a deadly sin) and I really liked the movie.
Naw mate, I’m sure you’ve got some solid reasons, but I thought it worked pretty dang great, and had a wonderful theater experience. Maybe it’s just because I waited to watch the OG until after I saw Romulus, but the fan service didn’t distract for me, and I thought the story was executed pretty dang well. Obviously the OG is gonna be better, but dang, i thought it did a really solid job overall 👌🏼
I’m watching it today, not going in expecting the best thing ever just want to have a fun movie night with the gf
I have a difficult time forgetting that the main character in "Prometheus" had had a parent die of Ebola, yet was okay with taking her helmet off on an alien planet because "the atmosphere is breathable". I just want an _Alien_ movie where the characters are smart enough to deserve to survive it...
You mean like John Hurt in that egg chamber?? I would've seen that organic movement & ran away as fast as I could shouting "F this for a game of spacemen!!"
at least they checked the atmosphere in prometheus and some even objected to removing the helmet; in covenant, they analyzed it for a second and disembarked like getting off a plane in some popular beach
How about Ebola existing in a spacefaring future period 😂
problem is I feel such a character would say "What? there's xenomorphs on this planet? ok. NUKE IT FROM ORBIT!"
@@JooDawg Honestly, that's the most believable thing.
I'm surprised you skipped over the fact that they used an instagram filter to bring back Ian Holm 😆
Should have just cast Elijah Wood in the role. Would have been both interesting and funny.
@casbyness I would have died laughing and it woulda made the first 85 percent of the movie so much better.
Dont shit so hard on that, its a practical effect with a filter on top.
Maybe it didnt worked but i like the idea to let a modern practical robot to look like a broken sci-fi robot.
When he was on the small screens it looked good.
@@hamiham32 Share the load.
I really really went through the mental gymnastics of explaining to myself why there'd be a synth on the Romulus that looked exactly like the synth on the Nostromo 20 years earlier, wearing the same clothes even. Mass produced droids with the same skin maybe, but unfortunately nothing could beat 'fan service' as an explanation.
Never realized until now that the destruction of the Nostromo was intentionally 3 separate explosions. Always thought it was just a weird visual sequence 😂
I always figured it was 1) light from nuke -delay- 2) blast wave from nuke (i realise you don't get a blast wave in space, but I figured it a mistake on the film-makers behalf)-delay- 3) Physical debris ejected from the explosion
The refinery it was pulling was the second or third explosion
Just cuz Drinker said it doesn't make it so.
When you read the book novel, that comes off the back of the original script etc, its due to the self destruct blowing first, then the engines and fuel of the ship etc, then the Refinery its towing goes up last in an even bigger blast. There is no way any part of the ship would ever survive, certainly not floating wreckage with the name still on it like in Romulus!!! Its ridiculous. And then to find the creature and it still be alive, twenty years later after being stabbed through with a grapple hook, fried by engines and then floating in space with no air, pressure etc..is just as stupid. Its as daft as when Bobby Ewing steps out of the shower and everything after he died turns out to be just a dream, including his own death....
@@Simon-xc5oy I could accept the Alien still being alive, but for it to still be anywhere near where all this went down is beyond absurd.
I enjoyed this movie. Much better than starwars garbage.
I have witnessed an extraordinary convergence of events. This video was released 34 minutes ago, it’s 10 minutes and 34 seconds long, and it’s 10:34 where I live! What is the cosmos trying to tell me?!
Idk but run
You're doomed😂
That you need to get a job
The Universe is telling you to make Rule 34 of Aliens.
That you're overthinking random stuff...
Two great sci fi horrors Alien and The Thing , nothing tops them so far .
Lol is that why flamethrower is your user name?
@@juliantheapostate8295 No, but all best films have a flamethrower featured in them or a firey death scene.
Aliens is one of the best sequels of all times
Amen to that.
I loved it because it was totally different. It could stand on its own.
Same goes for #3: different style once again and basically a different stand alone story.
As for #4 and the rest, let's not tire ourselves too much.
Nobody has ever mentioned that before. Fact.
That depends. For me, it fully destroyed the mystery / horror of the xeno. In "Aliens", the xenos are simply "bugs" controlled by a queen. Nevertheless, entertaining movie though.
@@n-a-n not to mention the "queen" was never part of Ridley Scott's original cannon.
Romulus is my first time watching an alien movie, and it was fucking awesome. Dont get why everyone is hating on it. Have some fun, damn.
Had they created a new IP with a similar premise it might have been better received.
Speaking only for myself, the casting alone kills the movie. The absolute baby-faced characters who are supposed to be hardened blue-collar workers/corpo serfs really deals a blow to any sense of verisimilitude.
@@brianberthiaume2764 their age gives them reason to do stupid, reckless things. They have seen their parents die in the mines, they see their own future and it’s grim. It makes sense to have a young ensemble for this plot.
"Romulus is my first time watching an alien movie"
Well, there's your problem, we'll talk again 20 years from now, when you've seen how you like your classic entertainment been turned to shit for new generations, because writers are creatively bankrupt
Watch Alien & Aliens and you might come to understand how bringing back a dead actor with bad CGI and directly quoting lines from those other movies completely break the immersion and ruin what could easily have been the best entry in the franchise since Aliens.
Don't worry about it. Hopefully this will encourage you to watch the originals and appreciate them. This is what Romulus was all about after all and it's to garner new audiences. Just leave Drinker to grumble about corporate greed and misery
I think the main reason why ppl love this movie, is that our standards for all of our big favourite franchises are so damm low we’ll take anything decent at this point t
When you have eaten watered cold rice porridge everyday for the past 20 years, a single piece of fried dog brain with mung bean soup is like a king's banquet
- ancient chinese proverb, very ancient. 🤣
That exactly what I said. For today’s standards this movie was good. And not a ounce of any agendas being pushed made it better
That’s the nutshell of the last 5 years with movies
That's 100% what it is.
You read my mind. Ill take anything that isnt absolutely garbage and hold it up on a pedestal solely because it doesnt have some political message.
The first Alien broke all existing horror tropes. Today, Alien is a trope of the horror genre.
You either die a good movie, or live long enough to see yourself become a franchise.
@@justmonika2345 I understood that reference!
how?
Alien was a classic slasher, including a chosen girl surviving till the end and killing the bad guy
I don't agree that Alien broke all existing horror tropes. Like at all. It was novel for translating horror into a sci-fi setting, but it didn't do anything new for the genre as a whole. Even the director described it at times as "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" or "Jaws" in space.
Discussions after seeing it realized that Alien movies are essentially, "we are up sh!t creek without a paddle" and succeed when they concentrate on getting out of the creek and fail when they start discussing the essence and origin of the creek.
Because people are dumb and they want dumb.
As for me, I enjoy the discussion of the origin of the creek.
Spot on
100% agree. Seeing as Ridley Scott’s woeful origin story was set long before the events of the original movies I thought Romulus would take the opportunity to move the franchise forward without it, like it never happened. For act one and two this was very much the case but the black goo and engineer nonsense found its way in and I was gutted. Just have them find a queen guys or even a new alpha xenomorph, not a flipping mutant engineer ffs.
Exactly, if I was stuck on safari with a few other people being huntered by a man eating pride of lions armed only with sticks and stones I shall not be debating the origins of said animals , if I wanted that I'd watch wildlife on one .
@@jameshuggins2520 An alpha xeno would have been a great idea. And moving forward, rather than tacking on crap from previous movies (that made no sense) would have improved the movie enormously.
Romulus: "Hey Covenant, have you ever been mistaken for an Alien movie?"
Covenant: "No, have you?"
Under rated comment.
How the fuck does this comment make any sense???
@@tomgu2285 I'm guessing you're not familiar with the Aliens reference?
Hahaha. Gold. After dousing my eyeballs with xenomorph blood after trying to watch this garbage movie I must go cleanse my soul with some Hudson and Vasquez quotes.
"Get away from her...you.....b-tch?" It's almost like the character himself isn't really sure why he's saying what he's saying.
That's the point. They made a point that Andy NEVER swears. It was his first time doing that.
Andy was called a bitch by the guy who hates androids several times throughout the movie. So he learned it from him to say it at something/someone you really don’t like.
As well as the fact that the character who hated synthetics kept calling him b-tch. Maybe he picked up on that. The amount of nitpicking about this movie is far worse than the movie itself.
You obviously didn't watch the movie. It's how he speaks and the scene actually put a smile on my face. They made the right choice make Andy say it and not Rain because no matter how Rain said it, it would've probably been cringy. This however was unexpected and i liked it.
He stutters as he was a breaking synthetic
Ripley going back into the Queen Alien's hive alone with a flamethrower to save Newt with minutes left until the colony was about to explode was genuinely one of the most terrifying and badass things I've ever seen in any film. Despite stealing the same plot point, Rain going back to save Andy didn't have even close to the same level of tension
💯💯💯
I agree but the problem is you all you all fans are having way too much nostalgia trip. Y'all hate these quotes. Y'all hate these references yet y'all are wanting aliens like you. Yourself. Just said it did not have the tension of aliens when Ripley went back for newt to face the queen. You're right cuz it wasn't a full Hive there was no Queen. There was no facehuggers. I'm sorry like what do y'all want y'all? If y'all want aliens go rewatch aliens. I'm honestly getting to the point where I could agree alien covenant wasn't that good Prometheus just obscure but this movie was actually good. It was really good and I think y'all are just thinking too damn critical on it. Like literally like one of the dudes this guy had on this podcast said he knew the movie sucked when he heard get away from her. You b**** I'm sorry you just weren't watching the first hour and a half of the movie like what is going on with y'all I get. There are critiques about this movie but we don't get an alien movie every year like a fast and further a dime a dozen and they're usually generally pretty decent. So if y'all don't like this movie give up, and stop putting your opinion on here
@@gibbyboi7313 So let me guess, don't think critically, don't think at all, just switch brain off and consume product? Gtfo kid
Spoilers: What broke that for me was that Rain was ready to abandon Andy on the new world with even less of a hazard. Or maybe again that fits in with the idea that corporations and bureaucracy are worse than a pack of alien killing machines.
Yes exactly. Aliens is a superb film and a worthy sequel to Alien. Romulus is what I expected it to be. Exactly what I expected! An average mish mash, best of bits take from the other films and Isolation the game. The fact its doing so well is simply because of this, and its not Prometheus. It literally is the Jar Jar Abrams version of Alien. Its the Alien series very own Force Awakens. I wonder if in about a years time people come back to their senses and finally see it for what it is, a poor remake / rip off. Just like Force Awakens was. But the audience is so desperate for some action, some decent Alien action after the Prometheus and Covenant miss fires they will go for anything Alien like that seems to look the part. I just cant believe how so much is lifted and recycled, its like someone's fan film. At least the did it on a sensible budget and that money shows on screen, unlike any Lucasfilm project say...
To be honest they don't like surprised when alien blood going everywhere after shooting. She specifically disabled gravity so blood will not rip the hull underneath. This is actually was very clever writing.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie but was kinda screwed when they were just dodging blood. Where were all the alien carcasses/corpses?
@@CompaDeArranke It did require a lot of suspension of disbelief. It would've been interesting if they had maybe used the leftover carcasses somehow to block the blood, like in AvP. But that could've also been executed poorly
The blood behaviour has always been inconsistent, at least from Aliens onwards. One moment it's eating through several steel decks of spaceship without stopping, and the next moment it's doing survivable damage to human flesh.
Ripley running over the xenomorph in Aliens should have destroyed the APC, but it doesn't. Andy falling down the shaft atop the xenomorph and shooting it at point blank range should have covered him in acid blood and severely damaged him, but it doesn't.
@@miked1869 yes and I feel this movie now fixes that. This shit will eat through everything.
@@TallicaMan1986 they made more of a feature of the blood in this movie, but I still don't think they were consistent with it.
As I say, Andy shooting the xenomorph point-blank, and landing on top of it, should have caused serious acid damage to him - but unless I missed something, it didn't do anything. So much for "Got a wonderful defence mechanism. You don't dare kill it".
I know what you mean. Within 20 minutes of the beginning of Star Wars you knew everything you needed to know. Same for Alien. And it doesn’t feel like exposition. Amazing.
One trick I learned from fanfiction writing: HONE YOUR FOCUS. The more you focus on what your story is supposed to be and the more fat you cut out, the better the end product will be.
That’s what I’ve been doing with my own story I’ve been working on. Nothing drives me nuts more with new “stories” than a writer who clearly wants to write lore/worldbuilding and thinking that’s an adequate replacement for narrative.
Like, what fat are we talking about? Specifically?
@@pendragon0905 Depends really. The fat can be subplots, side characters, jokes, conversations... pretty much anything that doesn't drive forward the core narrative, main character arcs, and beginning/middle/end.
An example that comes to mind for how not to do it is the Destiny games. It has a ton of worldbuilding and lore that actually quite cool and in-depth, at the expense of the narrative of the campaign which sucks. So much so that people play the main campaign and go, "Why are we playing THIS story when that one I read in the journal I picked up sounds way more interesting."
An example of doing it right is The Hobbit. While there's a lot of side characters, history, locations, and races, it doesn't distract from the main narrative which is "Bilbo goes on a journey to steal a treasure horde from a dragon."
@@NathanCassidy721For real. Like why the F did we never get to play a mission or campaign about Twilight Gap…
@@AngelicBeatdown I forget the names as it’s been years since I’ve been down that rabbit hole but I recall several battles like the one that made the Crucible Guardian famous and going, “Imagine if this was a single-player game and this was a mission. It would have been LIT.”
I love that you used the famous "Game Over, Man! Game Over!" line from our sorely missed Bill Paxton.
Kinda shocked that Romulus didn't...
If you liked him I'd recommend "a simple plan". Nobodies ever heard of it but I thought it was great.
If Henry Cavill's participation in a Warhammer convention were advertised, there would be a rush of women.
And then they'd claim they'd "always been there."
@@derek96720 Yup. Because that's what women do. Because they're social chameleons
I like that there are no women in Warhammer. If they are actual hardcore fans I'd welcome them, but we all know that wherever women 'demand' access it's not to enjoy what we are doing but to take it away from us and destroy it.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw I don't know whether to be complimented or insulted as a woman with a Nurgle army behind her on the shelf right now.
@@pensandshakers I personally believe the women who deliberately ruin hobbies are in the minority, but they do use their "status" as women to get what they want, claiming it's for inclusivity or some other BS. It's hard not to notice.
I loved the experience in Imax. Compared to the last couple of Alien movies this is a masterpiece. But sure, it could have been better I guess. 8/10.
They actually answer the question why Weyland-Yutani hasn't deployed a recovery team to the station. The planet where the movie starts is at an extremely remote location, at one point of the movie they tell us it takes 6 months for a message to actually reach corporate space, so then you need another many months to get the team to the space station. It is also obvious that the whole incident at the station took place only a few days earlier, and the reason they could detect the station on the planet is because it started to drift off from its intended orbit. Yes, they do not tell this to the viewer word by word, but it is pretty easy to put it together, and personally I like it when a movie lets the viewer user their brain a little bit.
So they can sent a hauler to find the alien AND have/build a base to research it, but they don't have a contingency plan? Yes, right, that makes total sense! *roll eyes*
Agreed. Everything you need to kniw is conveyed pretty easily and not cryptically for the audience to pick up on. Plus, scaveging is already stabilished to be a thing in the franchise's universe. In the first movie, the Nostromo answers the "distress signal" pretty much expecting to find no survivors, _but "scavenger's rights", they hope to earn extra pay with something they find to compensate for Weyland-Yutani's sub-par salary._
@@Brakiri Like that's anything new with Weyland-Yutani. Look at Aliens. What contigency they had for the colony stabilished on that planet? *Silence. Just send an ill-prepared team with ONE corpo agent to secretly retrieve the specimen.*
Plus, from the damage at the Romulus-Remus, it's clear they tried MANY things (firing, possibly contentions, etc), *it just wasn't enough.* As it usually never is. One of the constants of this series: this corporation is always overestimating its abilities to control the Xenomorphs/Aliens.
@@Brakirilol yes… I’m in the military.. if you think back up plans behind government ran corporate plans are always there, you must be in for a big awakening when you grow up
@@MrDibara stabilished? do you mean established? what am I reading here?
We haven't an Alien movie that was even remotely decent for 30 years, so having something that was above average that wasn't full of "the message" is probably why everyone, including myself, are pretty happy with it.
it was a good movie. i loved it and i recently watched Alien as well. Still love it.
I actually enjoyed it. Was actually a good way to destress from the bs of the world for a couple hours.
I just cannot relate to the people that go pikachu face when an Alien movie has elements from Alien movies in it.
Exact same thing that happened with Prey. After years of shitty Predator movies, people started treating a mid movie like Prey like the second coming of Christ.
I liked it a good deal. Going to a 4dx showing for my second screening tonight
Ripley: „Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?“
yup. only took 20 years.
@@chaddelong998where are these hundreds of facehuggers come from ? damn this movie is so stuipid
the iq's of the nostromo crew were animal level. ripley was the only one with common sense.
@@CmdrSoCal Example?
@@CmdrSoCalno, that’s not a fair characterization. The maintenance guys were reasonable (“why don’t they just freeze him” for example), the android’s apparently irrational decisions were intentional (aside from trying to use a magazine as a weapon), woman whose name isn’t Ripley didn’t take any dumb decisions that I can think of, and Dallas’s only misstep was ordering the crew to ignore the quarantine protocol, which was understandable under the circumstances. Ripley, for her part, just about got herself killed over a cat, but the only one who had an animal level IQ was the guy who thought it’d be a swell idea to stick his face in what he recognized to be an alien egg.
I actually liked Romulus, to be honest.
Thank you for addressing the short gestation period for chestbursting. It's been driving me nuts for the last 3 or 4 films in the franchise.
Yes!!! It’s almost instantaneous now! 😡
@@jelanitarik8452 that's part of the fun and the atmosphere of the original films. Someone gets facehugged, it's confusing and upsetting, they and the crew think it was just a close call, they move on and forget about it... then boom! Chest burst.
I don't understand how someone could direct an alien movie and gloss that over. But even Ridley himself messed it up later on.
It's never, ever been made clear how they grow so quickly, that's always kind of bugged me.
@@MrBonified66 lolol "bugged"
@@DeliveryManBoyi was also completely annoyed with the nerf to the FH strength. like the fact these wasters smack away huggers at all makes riplys fight with 1 seem letdown. and lets not question how the hugger had a dong 3 times its length
Maybe because I'm old but all these actors look like their resume consists of being in a high school musical or whatever kids program is popular now on cable.
Who even uses cable tv?
Except the lead is in a lot of films already...
yes these new casting directors are terrible. they're nothing but self inserts of people who left school 10 years ago but still consider themselves kids
These characters look like barely twenty year old baristas. If the film took place in Starbucks, they would be believable. Not in here.
@@Condensed_rockMy grandparents
Alien: Romulus stands as an example of a movie having too much fan service. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a fun love letter to the franchise as a whole, but it's also disappointingly derivative. Still, if you take the movie as is, it's a good time the same way a roller coaster at Six Flags is a good time
That's fair.
Summed up good!
It wasn't insultingly bad - except for the hybrid stuff - had it's moments, but in the end it just doesn't have the impact f the first 2.
I'd rather watch Romulus multiple times than watch 3, Resurrection and covenant.
Or a fat chick when you are drunk
This was cathartic. I was outnumbered by most of my friends who saw this. I had a very similar take on this and was wildly disappointed in the story, but the effects, cinematography and world building was reminiscent of the old movies.
The first two are always gonna be the good ones. The masterpieces in which every sci fi horror action movie Will inspire on.
Recently i rewatch the first one and God damn, what an experince. The production design, the sets, the cinematography, the tension, the performances. Just amazing.
I did as well. It's funny because it feels like quite a simple movie and I've seen it so many times. And yet, every time I rewatch it, it entrances me and makes me forget everything else.
The first one is tedious as hell. I tried to watch it. It is unwatchable today.
@@joeygang4136 Eh, speak for yourself. I watched it the first time in the 2010s when I was kid. It's only getting better every time I watch it.
@@joeygang4136lol, ok zoomer.
@@73rmin8r I don't know what that is.
The bar was set so low after Prometheus and Covenant that anything resembling a real movie could clear it. And this looks like a real movie, albeit written by AI that was fed the scripts for all the previous Alien movies.
Sounds familiar. lol
Prometheus is better than Covenant and Romulus, and as a standalone movie would have been perfectly fine.
@@RepEvoxthe only issue I have with Prometheus is that characters who are supposed to be intelligent constantly make brain dead retarded decisions for absolutely no apparent reason. The plot, the acting, the effects, and the worldbuilding are all really good imo. It's just really disappointing because it had all of the right ingredients to he great. Just tweaking a few scenes so that the reasoning for certain character decisions actually makes sense under the circumstances would have made it significantly better. I get characters making stupid decisions, but it should at least make sense, either from the circumstances or from the characters' personalities. Characters making baffling decisions when they should know better is just contrived. Great idea for a movie, not great in execution.
@@RepEvox Standalone or not, it's stupid. The plot is so dumb you'd think it was written in 2024.
XDDD, so true
The android dude saying the classic "Get away from her, you bitch" line in his monotone android voice really took me out of the moment, the reference really didn't seem necessary
It wasnt that random tho. The a*shole character said it to him before so while still being very fanservicy, its not completely unlogical like some people jump to assume
I halfway expected him to finish the line as a question: "Get away from her you bitch?"
@@deadshot0908 It wasn't random but still failed miserably. He ONLY said it too him so that they could justify using the line later. It just didn't fit at all.
@zaerogartorias9890 I mean it makes sense that he says it to him tho. Its not really an uncommon thing to say lol. In general I just dont get why some people are so outraged by it. Yes its a member Berries moment, but this stuff comes naturally if you make a movie in such a franchise after so long time. Im pretty sure if not for Star wars and everyone else doing it too these days, it wouldnt even be smth people love to hate on sm. I can get why people think its unnecessary. But pretending like its ruining an overall very good movie is just bs. The criticism to the ai character is more understandable for me but then again its also not that random since both rook and ash are scientist robots and since this movie plays after alien, it makes way more sense that its this model then lets say thr fassbender one, ofc it could have been a new actor, but for the universe its not unlogical that it isnt.
I hate all fan service lines. They instantly pull me out of what i'm watching
I’m one of the people that loved this movie. All the points you made here are legit, there are some issues with the script and logic and a few of the references made me cringe big time but imo for the most part none of it was so jarring that it took me out of the experience.
Sure I hated Prometheus and covenant but I really liked how they incorporated the black goo into Romulus. They had to do it to connect everything in the franchise and I was satisfied with how it was done. I feel like Prometheus and covenant could’ve been replaced by an explanation of the goo in this movie and we could’ve saved a lot of time and money.
There were a lot of references to the previous movies but to me it felt more like a loving homage to the alien franchise. Sure some of them were shit but they were still a part of the franchise whether we liked them or not. It felt more genuine to me than just a bunch of unoriginal rip offs.
Overall, they nailed the look and feel of the best parts of alien and the long runtime was not a problem for me. I loved that I could spend that much more time in the universe of the movie and I thought the humanoid xenomorph was great, loved the build up to it and it truly caught me off guard when it was revealed.
Considering all the shit that’s excreted from the film industry as of late, all the studio interferences, politics, activism, all the other obligations film makers are required to accommodate, I’m glad Romulus turned out the way it did.
The horror was good, the action was good, it was entertaining. That’s really the best we can hope for in a movie these days. I’m really feeling optimistic about the industry for the first time in a while, we’re starting to crawl out of the shithole.
Here’s my problem with Romulus.
Firstly, the recovery of the original alien corpse is unnecessary. They say they spend 20 years looking for it and manage to find it floating in the wreckage of the Nostromo despite the alien being harpooned and blown out of the engine of the escape shuttle miles away from where the Nostromo detonated three times with a blast apparently more powerful than a nuclear bomb. There shouldn’t even be any wreckage for it.
Why spend 20 years searching for it when the company clearly knows that there is a derelict ship on LV426 full of eggs? If they don’t know this then there is no way they could know about the alien corpse floating through spac or how to create facehuggers because ash must have told them or told muther. So why not just go to LV426 and recover the ship and save the 20 year search for the body?
If I can get past that, how do they know how to create facehuggers without a queen, how do they know what a facehugger looks like and how to create one using only the DNA from the original alien?
How do they then lose the Romulus space station if this bio weapon is so important to them, yet it’s floating only miles above one of their own colony planets? Clearly the writers went for horror and action over any plot thought
Yes, massive plot hole. There is no way they know there is an alien floating in space if they don't also know it came from the planet they redirected the Nostromo to.
Also, abandoning the research spaceship is dumb. If they are afraid of going here, how are they planning to experiment on them in their labs? WY goes to incredibley lengths to retrieve an alien, but then doesn't want to go to ship next door because.... there are aliens in it?
right? i was expecting it to be about the people on the planet that all got taken over but nope its above them?
Well, there might be wreckage, but the blast would have made it spread and continue to spread due to Newtons laws. It would not just be "floating" in space. The rest are definitely big plot holes, but everything after the original 3 are big plot holes.
They can't got to LV426 because that would ruin the whole plot of Aliens.
@@vagrant2502 Well, Alien 3 had its fair share of plot holes too.
I wonder if Alien fans like this film so much because, after years of being punished with pretentious or lazy stupidity, there's a film that's even slightly respectful or partially well done and stands out so much to the better against what came before.
Stockholm Fans
"Look, I know the studio thinks of us as sugar addled wallets, but man it was cool to see the pulse rifles smoking hordes of aliens rather than sit through the directors take on his life philosophy, struggles with religion and his father. After having my nose rubbed in his shit, twice, this isn't so bad"
Guilty.
But after all - that's infinitely better than anything 'Star Wars' the last 15 years
Yes
Exactly....just like Deadpool vrs wolverine...such a mediocre movie with shity cgi yet it made billions
@@QwertyPoiuy-em5id you just have bad taste honestly
All the Warhammer guys going "yay" when Drinker mentioned Warhammer 😂👌🏻
F'ing nerds 🤣 With Henry Cavil as there king. No wonder he keeps getting fired from IP's lol
Jus saw new movie! I actually enjoyed! I always anticipated negative feedback!
Sometimes we are too hard on these movies! Lol smh!
To each his own!
Ridley tried to tie some stuff in to the previous! I think he did a good job! 👍👏🙌🏽
1:28 Prometheus must have scarred the Drinker for life, he's having flashbacks.
To be honest, he is not the only one.
I was gonna say that too. He called this movie Prometheus. But the titles of these Alien movies are both boring and over complicated words anyway
They could never dream of making a movie as good as aliens ever again
reported him for using cam footage, spoiling the ending hopefully the video get's taken down!
Bots don’t dream.
@@D88niel okay what the hell is wrong with you
Yeah, because once something is done once you can't spark it again that's just media in general.
Every good movie in a franchise takes in a different direction, Alien was pure horror and Aliens was xeno-vietnam. This one was a mix of both and did well.
Credit where credit is due. The first shot of the adult hybrid ticked the fight or flight part of my brain. It's been a long time since a movie monster managed to do that.
I didn't like the movie due to plot issues. But alverez's film making must be OK, because during the movie I was genuinely tense for no plotting reason, and found it watchable.
What shocked me is that they cast an actual person to play that hybrid - some Romanian basketball player who is apparently Huge!
Same. The shadows covering its head in that shot was creepy af.
@@jamesday1295If you haven’t already, watch 2013 Evil Dead. He truly shines as a director there and I thought the kills in Romulus would be just as brutal. Here he just decides to pay homage to all of the previous Alien movies with a few new things.
@@banistersmind I had a very serious "where have I seen that monster before" until I realised I've seen the actor in a meme.
It definitely isn't as good at the first two, but I do think it is my third favorite Alien movie.
The worst part about all these modern alien and predator films is that you go back and look at some of the older comics recapped here on youtube and they genuinely have more intriguing and unique stories that will never see adaptations to the big screen.
Make a fan version. Raise money and start a mini studio. Or Cry about it.
@@Kometheus🗿
I remember buying those comics as a teen and wishing they’d get a serious film adaptation. Oh well.
Also ones that don't involve xenomorphs like "Not Another bug hunt"
The original story of Aliens vs Predator from the 90s actually very good. It was turned into a comic and a novel if you can find them.
I agree that the use of past lines and situations was poorly handled and should've been left out entirely, but my overall takeaway from the film was that it was visually captivating, entertaining, and a fun movie. Not on the level of Alien or Aliens, but better than Prometheus, which was my previous third favorite. The visual of the Romulus/Remus ship colliding with the ice rings was marvelous to see in IMAX, and I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff, so maybe that puts me on bias, but I still really enjoyed the movie as a whole.
It was a nice movie, it's a horror movie not a Christopher Nolan Oscar winning production lol, all alien movies have dumb aspects, it's just a horror film.
I'm so glad Drinker mentioned the shortened timeline between facehugger -> chestburster -> xenomorph. That's been a thing since the one Alien film we don't talk about, and it's always pissed me off how every director after the third film has played that card to avoid having any downtime. Heavens forbid we actually give the characters a chance to demonstrate real character.
Alien Resurrection for all its faults follows the gestation period of the alien just the same as the others. Next time pay more attention or read the script before talking crap!
@@RoaryUK I'd like to make an argument. I look at the gestation period of facehuggers of being highly conditional. It's clear that the 'seed' affects creatures differently based on their genetic composure such as a human or a dog, but we haven't really seen the impacts on the facehuggers due to Enviromental/time changes to themselves. In Romulus all facehuggers are frozen in cryo bags. How long have they been like this? We don't know. Were they cut out of their eggs or gassed when activated? Again, we don't know. When they are 'activated' in Romulus, they are overheated at temperatures near/above the same temp of a human body. Does that environmental condition create the option for an accelerated Xeno fetus? Don't know. We know experiments were being performed on them and saw pieces of them scattered among test tubes and such. Has human intervention impacted the conditions of their operation? Perhaps.
And also, aliens need to consume other bodies in order to grow - they don't just grow out of thin air. This movie glossed right over the need to consume bodies to grow, and greatly reduced grow time altogether. Like the alien baby growing into a full-grown adult in a matter of minutes with not eating of anything until he was a full grown adult was just ridiculous.
@@mr_barlow 'You can't criticize the new film unless you've done a 'double blind placebo randomized longevity trial' '
a.k.a. they don't have to be consistent because its fiction.
Don't write their movie for them.
@@docjohng the offspring wasnt fully grown until it fed off its parent, as its feeding you can see it actively grow and develop
its literally explained in the movie that xenomorph anatomy doesnt require energy and sustenance the way we do
Thank you for pointing out how great David Jonsson's performance was! I saw this movie with two buddies, and they looked at me weird for gushing out about the actor's role as the android. "Dude, he played a robot, anyone can do that", they said. But I was swept away by his movements and facial expressions. He was my favourite character out of the whole movie, to be honest :)
Ripley : What was your special order?
Ash : You read it. I thought it was clear.
Ripley : What was it?
Ash : Bring back life form. Priority One. All other priorities rescinded.
Parker : The damn company. What about our lives, you son of a bitch?
Ash : I repeat, all other priorities are rescinded.
Ripley : How do we kill it, Ash? There's gotta be a way of killing it. How? How do we do it?
Ash : You can't.
Parker : That's bullshit.
Ash : You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
Lambert : You admire it.
Ash : I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
Parker : Look, I am... I've heard enough of this, and I'm asking you to pull the plug.
[Ripley goes to disconnect Ash, who interrupts]
Ash : Last word.
Ripley : What?
Ash : I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies. [Ash smiles]
Chilling. Excellent, truly excellent dialogue.
Creepy that he actually gets pleasure from their imminent deaths
I totally read that in Ash's synthetic voice ...
Read the novelisation. Ash’s final words are totally different but equally chilling:
‘A last word,’ Ash said quickly. ‘A legacy, if you will.’ Ripley hesitated. ‘Well?’ ‘Maybe it is truly intelligent. Maybe you should try to communicate with it.’ ‘Did you?’ ‘Please let my grave hold some secrets.’
I actually really liked it. It gave me the original Alien and Aliens vibes. I liked the practical sets and keeping to the original. Sure there were some cheesy nostalgia bait moments and convenience situations but I felt those situations were more to drive the plot but I actually felt some suspense and anxiety, especially since they're all nobodies so you don't know if any were going to live.
I was a bit confused when they described the timeline and almost felt like this was supposed to be the link between first two movies where this caused the colony to be taken over but realized this is a separate event
@zogwort1522 it's also convenient the crew came in time to save Ripley from the android too. There are plenty of conveniences in storytelling. It's just when you get older, you start noticing it more.
@zogwort1522 When you learn about Joseph Campbell's formula, the formula used in all successful movies, you will learn this is just part of storytelling
@zogwort1522 name me one successful movie that doesn't use hero's journey formula by Joseph Campbell.
@zogwort1522 both of them are perfect examples Joseph Campbell's hero's journey. Especially independence day.
Made sure to hit all the points. The Great use of the call to adventure, meeting the mentor, crossing the threshold, trials and failures, growth and new skills, the death and rebirth, the revelation, final changes, atonement, gets gift, returns changed. Even makes sure to follow the proper flow of tension graph as well. Brilliant Joseph Campbell example movie.
@zogwort1522 death and rebirth are both physical and/or metaphorical which both happened. Even one of them happens with the revelation when they dissect the client to reveal that it's just a suit, they are alive still, they can communicate telepathically, that area 51 knew about them and had captured a previous ship years ago and why they want to destroy humans. It's a massive revelation in the story.
The greatest strength of the original Alien was that the monster was on-screen for about four minutes in total.
I thought the opposite. Why would you go see an Alien movie and actually want to barely see it? I get the suspense factor but an Alien movie with barely any Alien is just a space marines struggling in space movie. I think even Romulus didn't show the Xenos enough.
@@danielayers8259 I thoroughly disagree. The more you show the titular creature, the less scary and impactful it becomes.
no but okay
@@Right_Said_Brett bird box was ruined for me as they revealed the creature right in the beginning
A Day In The Life Of Crrtcccttttrrktktkttkckckcktt (A Brief Study in XenoParasitical Paradise)
It was a very good movie and all the "shameless stealing" you complain about is actually just respectful and affectionate homages to the classic lines we love