The Conservatives have been in power for THIRTEEN years and have still not reduced net immigration. In fact, it has increased to 745,000 per year despite repeated promises and even more lies plus Brexit "taking back control of our borders"😂😂😂😂😂😂 Jan 2010, David Cameron said net migration of over 200,000 was too much and promised to reduce net migration to "tens of thousands. A net figure of over one million legally migrated here in the last two years. A net figure of over one million legally migrated here in the last two years. In 2022, a net figure of 745,000 migrated here. 2021: 488,000. The Conservatives are in their FOURTEENTH year in power and are still blaming everyone else but themselves.
@fontaine....what have you got against the current immigration figures...we should be a welcoming country...or is it just another excuse to have another poke at the tories....😊
Unfortunately Mr Ferrari, we do train people, in this country, to a wonderful standard. To an extent that they are lured overseas by better pay and living/working conditions. All of this is because the conditions & salary in this country are so poor. When the highest earning people in a country are the chief executives, bankers and landlords, the genuinely skilled workers are going to get fed up with their comparative wages and lifestyle. Especially when it's been shown that "trickle down" economics is such a con.
Can also have to do that under last 13 years of Tories, school and hospitals have started to collapse, that £350 mil per week to NHS did not happen. Training people, is this a joke, European countries trained more border agency and customs workers pre Brexit, UK had no training at all, UK needed 50 000 more people on border and ZERO was trained, UK was assuming that EU members would do the work for Brits ? Customs workers in Belgium, Netherlands or France do not care whats shipped out from EU to UK, it's not their job to check that, just as border agency job is not to prevent people leaving.
We used to train apprentices, but Thatcher introduced 715’s in the early 80’s so building companies encouraged their staff to go self employed, so no time or inclination to take on apprentices, look at the Harry Enfield character’Loadsamoney’, also Thatcher closed down the Government Training Centres, so when a Tory Cabinet Minister states ‘We will train apprentices’ they have only their selves to blame
Elderly incontinent daily mail readers dont want 'Johnny foreigner looking after them?The British youth are hardly queing up to do the job?They think their wealth is a buffer.The pool of skilled dedicated undervalued care workers is getting thinner by the week.Their ideology has dug a hole that's unfillable!
Also, in 1980, the then tory Government brought in modular training so that companies only had to teach apprentices the skills they needed them to be able to do. Because of that a lot of skills were lost and that is why we can't train people here Nick, because the people who had the skills didn't get to pass them on so that companies could save money on training.
Agree seem funny how they never remember this or blame someone else. Thatcher has sold our Ultitiles to foreign buyers. Our Manufacturing base to oversea. People point out she stood up to miners and won the falklands. No she did it was the troops that did. In fact her words were. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOCIETY.
My daughter did her degree in 2013 or thereabouts she now trains nurses for the NHS. We need to train our own young people and give them a future not import foreigners who are coming here for the money.
@@AndrewMcevoy-d8n We are getting the ones that can't get into the USA, Australia etc.. People are paid less than the USA in skilled work and pay more tax and it's more expensive to live here. Why even think about it.
@@SalikRafiqThat's outright BS. A lot more migrant nurses aren't the rejected of the US or Australia. They tend to prefer the UK because of the colonial connection. But with the increasing pushback, more will go elsewhere. And if y'all know anything about the competence of the nurses, you'll find out pretty soon that this is not a real solution. It's just a populist one and you'll find how tough things will turn in the next couple of years.
There was a time when they would have done; but nowadays, everyone is told that they are too 'special' for such things. I think that people ought to remember that their parents cared for them when they were children, and it's fair to repay them when they are older.
1:45 None of the Thai or Filipinos or other East Asian people I work with (or even the Indians and Pakistani doctors/nurses) have used housing benefits. They’re not allowed public funds until they get citizenship and they have strong cultural taboo about being “unaccomplished” so they always have jobs (hence not reliant on government funds). They need houses for sure but they pay it from their salary. All this time, I thought they help support the economy because they are part of the workforce and the spending population.
@careytitan9097 you must be joking, right? The NHS relies heavily on foreign-trained healthcare workers to fill vacancies and ensure that patients receive the care they need. -------‐----------- Why??? The UK has a long-standing shortage of UK-trained healthcare professionals. This is due to a number of factors, including: *A lack of capacity in UK medical schools and nursing schools to train enough students. *A decline in the number of students who are choosing to study healthcare professions. *A brain drain of healthcare professionals who have left the UK to work in other countries where they can earn higher salaries and have better working conditions. -------- Increased demand for healthcare services: The UK's population is ageing and the demand for healthcare services is growing. This is putting additional strain on the NHS and making it more difficult to recruit and retain UK-trained staff. Cost-effectiveness: It can be cheaper to recruit foreign-trained healthcare workers, as the UK government does not have to pay the costs of training them. Flexibility: The NHS can recruit foreign-trained healthcare workers more quickly than it can train them domestically. This can be helpful in times of crisis or when there are specific skills shortages. What crisis? I will let you figure that out
@@saintchai20 The real reason we need more doctors and nurses is because of all the extra millions of immigrants coming into the country! No immigrants, no need for extra doctors and nurses! Immigration is creating the problem!
@@saintchai20Thats not true, we actually have an increase of people who decide to work in healthcare, they quit once they realise its alot of work for so little money
“Doesn’t speak clear English” - it’s nuts how many people confuse accents with language. I’ve seen people from African/European/Asian countries speak FAR better English than Brits - they just do so with their own accent.
Unlike the English, those foreigners that do learn English are taught to do so correctly. But I know from personal experience that it can work the other way, too; as when English people learn foreign languages.
missed the mark on this one, i've met a great number of migrant workers who are in professional positions that don't have functional english skills...especially in hospitals.
Strange that when apprenticeships were pretty much made redundant in the 80's, everyone but the government knew it was a terrible idea. You reap what you sow.
Why can't we just train people in this country? Errr... student debts, the Tories fear of people getting educated, lack of money going into state schools, lack of decent pay if you do get qualified. There are lots of reasons why British young people don't become medical staff.
It's all very well saying "train up our own people" BUT the people who own the care homes etc DO NOT want to pay to train them or pay a living wage when they are trained. Many of these business owners vote Tory and larger ones even donate to them in hopes of lower taxes and to be able to pay terrible wages, they certainly don't want a government that would force them to train and pay enough to attract British people.
From what I've read care workers are funded by the local council and they claim they can't afford to pay more because they don't receive enough money from central government.
My wife was a highly experienced care worker but she quit in her mid 30s. It simply doesn't pay. It's a tough job that not just anyone can do, and the hours aren't always kind. Until the pay rapidly goes up (and I mean rapidly) people will choose other careers. It's really that simple.
My wife had 2 carers 4 times a day for 2 years before she died. I agree they are all wonderful caring people. Underpaid and emotional stressful for them . Yet this Government call them unskilled. How out of touch they are! This is not a job for everyone. My thoughts and thanks go out to all our hard working and conscientious carers no matter which country they come from.
@@KenPassey-hd2mc I used to work as care worker but did not work as much as my retail although pay was 10% higher due to nature of job. I would not work as care worker even if pay if £20/hour but happy to work for minimum wages in retail etc. This kinda gives context how tough care work is. Big salute to the people who do it.
I don't think it's as black and white as you said. Not all industries are the same. How do you make a blue collar job more attractive? Not everything can be solved by throwing money at it. Some jobs people just find 'undesirable' and will always have turnover problems
The problem isn't training people, it's that employers want to pay them less than a living wage once they're trained. The whole system is out of kilter, meanwhile the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Even if these care home workers are only getting paid minimum wage (say 50 hours a week) then they are contributing to their employers profit of at least double that, ie they are in effect £30 per hour workers. Then we take the issue of care homes deliberately never employing enough staff, then each worker is doing on average the work of one and half workers, so then that brings the effective value of that worker up to £45 per hour. If then that employer paid their taxes properly in the UK, and most don't then, indirectly that worker had contributed enough for his wife and family to live here too. As for care homes in particular, many are set up to be tax dodges, eg Owner of capital sets up a company in a tax haven and ostensibly lends a newly set up company in the UK to buy a care home on 100% finance, then that tax haven company charges the UK company say 15% interest rates, then at the end of the tax year, on paper, thanks to the interest paid makes no declarable profit. This is financial engineering and in effect is tax evasion. This is modern capitalism at work, as idealised by the tory government in particular. If the Tories go ahead to stop these people working here, I think that every single brexiteer should be press ganged into a care home in their spare time to do this work, since Brexit, have refused to do. After all it was them that saw these jobs as stolen. As for nurses. It is nearly 5 years since the Tories abandoned nurse training bursaries, which of course lead to the deliberate decline in home grown nurses. This was deliberate policy.
We left the EU and lost a huge swathe of workers in agriculture, the NHS, hospitality and the care sectors. You can't force people to take jobs they dont want when there are other, more suitable/better paying, jobs to go to. You can't have what you want without compromises. Legal migration is necessary for this country to function. Legal immigrants aren't the problem but are part of the solution.
@@chrisj9700 No, we need the skilled workers and the unskilled workers, especially in the care sector. We need them to look after our aging population and pay taxes for our pensions. You saying we don't does not make it so. They did not leave because of Covid what a downright disgusting lie. It was clearly Brexit why most EU workers went home, a) becuase they were clearly not welcome by "people" like yourself and b) because it was wise to jump off the sinking ship and go work in another EU country which does actually value them. Getting rid of freedom of movement was one of the most idoitic things this country has ever done.
@@chrisj9700 This is on account of flawed tory thinking. Tory inspired employers don't want to train, they don't see it as their responsibility. Tory governments don't want to train either unless there is a profit in it for their cronies, hence not enough of the right workers. (unlike the old days where both government and employers took responsibility) The only answer then is immigration, but with a twist, ie pay them less. A win-win for Tories and employers, and to top it off our greedy private landlords will fill their pockets.
The problem with the UK is the wages are too low and the cost of living is now too high. I’m university educated and a trained English teacher. I left the UK almost two years ago and can’t see myself going back. This trend will likely continue, as will migration from other parts of the world to fill our labour shortages
This is the reason I am planning to leave the UK. I work in finance and am completely a higher earner. But high taxes, no services being provided. Earning too much to get any support especially with nursery fees. And the sheer cost of buying a family home is the cliff edge. 3 up 3 down terrace House in London are going for more than a million. Don't tell me to move out of London because I have to be in the office at least 4 days a week and I don't want to spend 15 hours a week commuting with a young family. Solution: moving to other financial hubs that pay twice it thrice as much with the same living cost as the UK. Simple
@@1985MrFRESH In the UK they only know how to take people's money, not how to earn and invest it. Soon they will control themselves and eventually the robots will control them and that will be the end for them.Thoughtlessness
Nursing, child care and care of the elderly are not areas you can just train people up to do. There is a certain type of vocation needed. Basically, you can’t teach people to care.
Exactly. You are either cut out to be in a caring profession or you aren't. There's a specific skill set of interpersonal and compassionate traits which no one can teach in a classroom
And even if you do care, you might not have the stomach for it either. I certainly don't, which is in fact the only reason why I never went into any sort of medical/care profession.
We're the most uncaring country around in my opinion, and it's a systemic issue that has been around for decades. But morons will blame whatever party is in charge instead of themselves.
That's why the tories made it harder for British people to become nurses and doctors. So they would have an excuse to import the world. Clever people the tories.
This rules should be stopped. It’s not fair the amount of salary he announced for them who wants to bring their spouse. This is injustice. It should be stop 🛑
let that sinks in (all quotes from the first 25 seconds) "if you cannot contribute to the UK, you are not coming to the UK".... and then... "my grandad got in because he was opening restaurants" - 1. can you open a restaurant before arriving? 2. your grandad contributed after arriving and you only spew hate on radio while gaining weight - that is not a contribution to the economy 3. can little children travelling with their parents immediately contribute? 4. tories are defending the law that prevents asylum seekers from working... but why would facts and logic matter to a tory
The UK has 5,000,000 employable people who are currently unemployed or on benefits. We do have enough people in our indigenous population to work, but they need to be educated, trained and employed. Businesses just can't be bothered to train and foreign workers are cheaper, thus damaging our economy.
@pmarsh3700 You haven't engaged with facts & evidence. Have you found out how many want to do that job? Have you found out how many can physically or mentally do the job? Have you found out how many will have kids or get long-term sick? Have you found out how many can pass the test and have the correct personality? No.
@@pmarsh3700 Yeh mate, mentally and physically disabled are also included on that list of eligible workers... My mum was on that list before she retired, been on disability for 15 years and unable to go up stairs but DWP was trying to force her into a job like factory work
The bulk of which are only unemployed for 16 weeks or less. If an accountant in London is made redundant, do you think he's going to relocate to Lancashire to work in a care home whilst he looks for another accountancy job ? @@pmarsh3700
I went to college for two years health and social care NVQ 2 NVQ 3 and then 2011:they unskilled us and don't recognise are qualifications and allowed anyone into care jobs and wages fell so how did that help the qualified skilled staff
Most other countries look after elderly people within the family; the UK has developed a tradition of sticking them in homes - an incredibly costly alternative but saves people having to bother.
@@mattb4494 maybe if they didn’t spend all their money on smartphones, Sky tv, broadband, Netflix, junk food and a car in the drip they’d be financially better off.
I remember leaving school trying to get an apprenticeship in building back in 2011 there was nothing. Everything's been put into degrees but trades have been put on a back burner.
I'm a Londoner born and bread been married for 10 years we have a daughter who is autistic. my family are broken by this goverment i am as british as can be. no way can up my income by 6k a year. but as i support my family i pay my Taxes my rent and bills. but to bring my family here i would have to move to a cheaper part of the UK as you cannot rent a place to meet the visa rules. why do they have to make it all about money. are the working class only aloud the be with a british partner now. why not basses the visa on what you will give the UK . maybe make spouses of british people do 2 years national service like working in care homes.
If we want to attract workers into healthcare professions, we need to pay them well and treat them well. Care workers on near minimum wage. Doctors on £14 an hour is a disgrace. For too long migrant workers have been used to suppress wages and working conditions. I am pro immigration, but we need to end the exploitation of both migrant and domestic workers. All workers, across all sectors, deserve descent pay and working conditions!!!
I don't want a doctor on subsistence wages. They will treat their patients with the same disdain their employer treats those on minimum wage. Migrant workers and low paid British workers are not in competition for the same jobs. Your last line however, is where and what we should be aiming at. Why have successive governments failed to do that? The Neo-Liberal model requires it.
Thatcher's government incentivised builders to go self-employed so they had effectively no reason to take on apprenticeships, and then closed down government run training, and then the social poisoning employed by Blair in the form of pushing higher education painted being a builder or bricklayer as "low skill work" and therefore undesirable and lesser. Consecutive, self serving governments for decades upon decades have caused this issue, it's not a football match argument where you boo the other side- they are all to blame.
I am Spanish and I do live here for almost 5 years, I work as a charity fundraiser for different organisations and the amount of racism and bulling I have to suffer from this upper class British when I was them to donate for our organisations is astonishing. They can clearly understand me but they choose to make fun and bully me because of my strong Spanish accent. Some of them believe that we have to be their servants just because I came from abroad and I have no rights for breaks or eat when working long hours too. You are bulling people from Europe but you all happy to let in all the worse from the most conservative countries in the world who have no intention to work neither to integrate.
@@albert7311 With your point of view then you can take all the British out of Spain too . Also, we want Gibraltar back. You can’t just eat the best piece of the cake mate. Life is about sharing with respect. 😉
"You all happy to let in all the worse from the most Conservative countries in the world". I understand you're upset by your treatment but there's no need to turn into a xenophobe.
Certainly the healthcare professionals coming to the UK today have a hard requirement to pass English exams before even applying to come here. Source, my wife is an immigrant, and some of her extended family trained to be nurses and doctors abroad before coming to the UK to work in the NHS. She tells me this was not the case with European nationals before brexit 🤷♂, but was and is the case when coming from countries outside of the EU. I'm sure Anne's heart is in the right place. However she's clearly not a foreign national that has gone through training to come to work in the UK, and can't speak of how thorough it is or isn't. In the last few years I've seen a niece go through all the training to be taken on by the NHS as a doctor. I know the training she went through to be a doctor abroad, the years on the job practice and additional training she did before coming to the UK, the english tests, medical tests, in person interviews here in the UK, and the, so far, years of practicing she's done here in the NHS. Training is not a problem. Her first job was in an NHS hospital working in A&E and then moving to a cancer ward, housing was made available onsite - a block for nurses and other medical staff that was largely empty; housing isn't a problem either. The problem is pay, and stresses of working in the NHS - which are all money based problems. Foreign nationals coming to the UK to work in the NHS will stay with the NHS for the minimum amount of time, then go and work in the private sector for more money. Isn't it ironic that the Conservatives drive to erode the NHS and privatise it piece by piece and under-fund it year after year is having a direct contribution to the rising immigration numbers that it hates so much...
It's simple because people in the UK don't have the same work ethic as people from abroad. However you look at it you still need immigration and that's the world we live in.
But there's nothing wrong with that? Of course if you've grown up in poverty you will settle for less and work harder for that. We need to stop giving employers a choice to hire desperate immigrants
@@exodus1536 English employees want fatter pockets hence why they hire cheap foreign labour. Talking of flat out lies, let’s actually call out the ppl causing the problem… instead of blaming the ppl who are doing the work. It’s easy to see who the final decision lies with.
"Why arent we training more people?" Why dont you get your kids to do it? I wouldnt be a care worker for £40k a year, let alone minimum wage. I can earn 4 times as much pushing round some papers and listening to UA-cam videos. Some people are thick as mince.
@yorewhyworry7217 Convince the company you work in to train you and get further qualifications and then have no loyalty and go for a higher paid job somewhere else soon as you pass. If you aren't upskilling in your job whilst working, get another one soon as possible. Tech is very cushy in the right company, coding for example, if you can get a promotion, convince them a management course is in both the companies and your interests. Now you don't even do anything just make sure other people are doing what they should be.
I had to switch off after the first caller said that all immigrants must learn English. The minute that elderly British immigrants start learning to speak fluent Spanish in Benidorm is the day immigrants to Britain should learn English.
I heard a university Dean (head of medical school) say in an interview earlier this year they weren't allowed to accept any UK students, only foreign (money presumably). Says it all.
complete nonsense. UK has more English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish med school students than Indian, Pakistani or Nigerian medical students (here in the UK). the only difference is British senior doctors prefer working in high paying med professions (cardiology, clinical radiology urology, hospital directors, neurology, dentists, plastic surgery, anesthesiology, Private clinics etc) while the foreigners focus on the bread & butter medical fields (Emergency care, elderly care, OBs, junior doctorships, GPs.
I live in London and work for a local authority - since the financial crash of 2008 - we were penalized via 15 year hiatus without any payrise - it was like serving a jail term for a crime they knew we did not commìt - but had to pay the price for a corrupt system that protects their own and penalises the weak and ordinary - our innocence counts for nothing - none of those greedy, criminal bankers got anywhere close to 15 years behind bars for the crime that they committed-!! EVERYONE OF THEM SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN 100 YEARS EACH!!!!!
Why aren't schools teaching skills this country needs theirs no wonder british people cant get jobs if we aren't training our own youth from schools upwards.
@@gtrdxz well, you need to spend money on 3rd world countries. It helps reduce the risk of wars, and crime that would spill over to affecting us. For example, piracy in Somalia. As for spending on our own country first... public spending is massively down when accounting for inflation and %GDP and national debt is increasing at a frightening rate. This is standard for a Tory government, BUT, we (us, not the wealthy) currently have the highest tax burden since the 2nd world war! Where's the money going? Or is it just coincidence that the gap between the wealthiest and the rest of us has sky rocketed?
We have the worst run government in our history with the prospect of even more useless one in the wings . This Country need help fast. But please no more politicians.
Why can’t the UK government train nurses , doctors and carers and social workers at a low price . Create programmes within the country that encourages these careers?
So funny to hear old people talk about immigration like if they know a thing. Cheap labour will always exist specially in Britain as it diverges from the EU. We actually need people as much as we need training but training will take 20 years to take effect.
@@VPhantom-rf3qo because without them the parents will not come. Nobody gonna leave their families away for such periods of time. Also dependants pay for everything and it also means more money is paid into local economy. But that’s basic economics which seem beyond the educational level of most Brits today
@cmsacademy1673 Dependants do not mean only parents. It's usually the students' partner, parents, or siblings. What do you mean nobody is going to leave their families for such periods of time? Millions of foreign students do. I'm pretty sure the dependents are entitled to emergency services, roads, under 18 education? The students themselves aren't a significant benefit for the country either. They help the unis themselves.
Soooo the UK has no staff for anything. Brits born here most went to uni to study for a specific career or started a business - therefore some jobs are not suitable for them. Many moved abroad. Second- those who didn’t follow career routes mentioned above are already working but even if they were not, there still wouldn’t have been enough staff to cover shortfalls. Therefore - we need people to come and support the industry shortfalls. In relation to ‘illegal migration (which isn’t a thing) - the government are failing. We need taxes- we need people to come here even to fund the economy- unless the richest and those complaining are prepared to pay more tax to support public services? If not then people need to get a grip and deal with it. Simple- farmers don’t even have seasonal fruit pickers, no transport truck drivers, nobody in construction …. Because most brits are trained in degree related professions or are already working!
Sounds an awful lot like you (and callers, and imo most sensible people) support Labour’s ambition for a National Care Service (trained along similar lines to how carers were trained in the last Labour government), and for it to be integrated into the National Health Service. It would allow those in need of care to be seen at home instead of clogging up A&E and taking up a bed in hospital for a couple of days. So many ‘Home’ issues can be completely resolved by looking at the last Labour government (and I do not say that as a Labour supporter, I say that as someone who feels driven to despair by the party I have supported until Boris came in and dragged it waaaay past Faragism and into this bizarre BNP territory).
I'm british and I work in social care and i can tell you now. I don't not want to do this job anymore !! It's hard long hours and awful pay. BAD MANAGERS. deliberately understaffed to pay for managers big salary. Now british people do not want to do this job anymore on the low pay! If you want better care you better start paying carers better or you will never seen anyone in your care home working that is actually british!
Look at they pay for most of the public service sectors. You gotta be a loser before admitting that you have to work in a public service for the rest of your life, especially nurses and teachers. Let me tell you this story about a young nurse/midwife who took care of my wife about 8 years ago. She came back and forth to check my wife, starting at about 10 pm and said bye to us at about 4 am. I was with my wife (it was our first child) at the hospital. At about 7-8 am, I went down to a M&S in the hospital and I could not believe what I saw. That young nurse was working in M&S at 8 am!!!! You don't work that hard unless struggling with money to cover bills.
This is the reason I am planning to leave the UK. I work in finance and am completely a higher earner. But high taxes, no services being provided. Earning too much to get any support especially with nursery fees. And the sheer cost of buying a family home is the cliff edge. 3 up 3 down terrace House in London are going for more than a million. Don't tell me to move out of London because I have to be in the office at least 4 days a week and I don't want to spend 15 hours a week commuting with a young family. Solution: moving to other financial hubs that pay twice it thrice as much with the same living cost as the UK. Simple
„The people filling the jobs we don‘t want to do and who deliver our amazon packages, pick our produce and care for our parents/grandparents are torturing us by not speaking proper English“. Is she serious? Torture?! Have you listened to people in the UK speak? 25% of your people are unintelligible and they grew up with the language. And you as a British person should have ample experience and knowledge of proper torture, if not feel free to ask around in your former colonies.
Scrap the rules allowing companies to pay people 20% less for foreign labour. Without competitive wages the care homes will always struggle. Eccomys struggle when wages are suppressed.
My area has been destroyed by immigrants - it's a hellhole here now, I hate it. I'm working all the overtime I can get and saving up to get a flight ticket and a few months money to survive on abroad. Why have they done this to our country?
Im trained in health and social care with other a decade of experience. I left almost 2 years ago becase the pay was so poor. I was on £10.30 an hour for shift work, and £10.40 night shifts. I personally believe that cheaper Social Housing helps fuel lower wages, as those who recieve such discounted housing, are saving hundreds of pounds each month compared to full price rents or a mortgage. Then because they dint need to work so many hours to pay the bills, they often get Universal Credit. So the problem isnt lack of workers, its lack of pay and too generous a benifits system.
Would be interesting to hear from all the UK citizens who want to work for NHS bit cannot or won’t. Is it all a myth? Why is the continued call for immigrants workers if citizens want to work?
How low has this country become? perhaps MR UnCleverly would like to stay in Africa and live without armed protection and tell me if it is safe, well his ancestor's had a different trial by fire.
Because the UK is a sinking ship, cannot pay the amount that Brits would be satisfied. The only people trying to land in the UK are Indian (253,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (89,000), Pakistani (55,000) and Ukrainian (35,000) who still want to migrate to the UK because their wages and living conditions in the UK are still better than their home country.
So sad, the amount of money nurses earn in a month in UK is what nurses earn in just a week in other countries. Even if they train nurses here, they'll all run away 🏃♂️ to other countries becauseof the poor salary and working conditions. The bottom line is, the government should do something about the salary of nurses. At least it will motivate people to enrol in nurses countries in the universities.
Yet British people are doing these jobs. There are not immigrant workers everywhere in the UK. And where there are not then local people tend to do these jobs. It is all about capitalism and getting the cheapest work force in.
The Government is deep in debt. Caused by its constant borrowing at the expense of the Taxpayers. It always created generational debt, that babies born today are going to pay for today's debt in the future. So, the population level needs to be such that the debts can be repaid in the future without failure. Therefore, immigration will always occur regardless of public opinion. There will always be Taxation as long as people need Government. Slavery was never abolished. Only renamed.🎉🎉🎉🎉😮
I have worked in the health and care sector for over a decade and I can confirm, the wages never caught up with inflation and cost of living. I used to get £12 an hour in 2013 but I am now paid just about £12.50 over 10 years later. I know several organisations that only pays the minimum wage. This sectors is hard work and many families (even foreign recruits) struggle on the wage rate. I don't want to continue earning peanuts for the quality of services that I offer to my patients. Many British colleagues will never accept such wage for 12 hour long day shift to spend your day-off catching up on sleeping. These foreign workers fill the gaps left before covid 19 and they deserve respect and more IMHO. Also, they never get free housing or benefits as many would assume and are forced by the government to pay for NHS fees (health surcharge) despite paying tax and contributing via NI. This is all a government policy scam.
This lady is Spot on! These immigrants coming in get grants from Governments and these recruitment companies get bonuses for supplying cheap foreign labour. Its a loop hole that will not stop.
Funny how even at the height of the IDS-McVey reforms the number of vacancies was the same. It's almost like it's a static figure fiddled for ideological purposes.
That’s right..once we can offer business fully trained staff , then make if difficult for foreigners., You don’t do it the other away round. That will just bankrupt small businesses.
The Conservatives have been in power for THIRTEEN years and have still not reduced net immigration. In fact, it has increased to 745,000 per year despite repeated promises and even more lies plus Brexit "taking back control of our borders"😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jan 2010, David Cameron said net migration of over 200,000 was too much and promised to reduce net migration to "tens of thousands. A net figure of over one million legally migrated here in the last two years.
A net figure of over one million legally migrated here in the last two years.
In 2022, a net figure of 745,000 migrated here. 2021: 488,000.
The Conservatives are in their FOURTEENTH year in power and are still blaming everyone else but themselves.
That's easy. They are up against the "blob" and other tofu-eating Uman right activists scuppering their plans.
Both parties will always do the same on this matter
Exactly, some tory voters are too thick to see the truth
labour and tory both useless
@fontaine....what have you got against the current immigration figures...we should be a welcoming country...or is it just another excuse to have another poke at the tories....😊
Unfortunately Mr Ferrari, we do train people, in this country, to a wonderful standard. To an extent that they are lured overseas by better pay and living/working conditions. All of this is because the conditions & salary in this country are so poor. When the highest earning people in a country are the chief executives, bankers and landlords, the genuinely skilled workers are going to get fed up with their comparative wages and lifestyle. Especially when it's been shown that "trickle down" economics is such a con.
Can also have to do that under last 13 years of Tories, school and hospitals have started to collapse, that £350 mil per week to NHS did not happen.
Training people, is this a joke, European countries trained more border agency and customs workers pre Brexit, UK had no training at all, UK needed 50 000 more people on border and ZERO was trained, UK was assuming that EU members would do the work for Brits ? Customs workers in Belgium, Netherlands or France do not care whats shipped out from EU to UK, it's not their job to check that, just as border agency job is not to prevent people leaving.
...and it's exactly for that reason i left in england in 1973 and never returned... same old problems, different century...
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how did the conditions and pay get so poor in this country ? by allowing too much cheap labour in
Oh no, it might have a lot to to with the lies ,of Neoliberalism? Milton Friedman, et al.😊
We used to train apprentices, but Thatcher introduced 715’s in the early 80’s so building companies encouraged their staff to go self employed, so no time or inclination to take on apprentices, look at the Harry Enfield character’Loadsamoney’, also Thatcher closed down the Government Training Centres, so when a Tory Cabinet Minister states ‘We will train apprentices’ they have only their selves to blame
The legacy of Thatcher,we are still living through it. Funny how the wealthy think she was wonderful.😭😭😭
Elderly incontinent daily mail readers dont want 'Johnny foreigner looking after them?The British youth are hardly queing up to do the job?They think their wealth is a buffer.The pool of skilled dedicated undervalued care workers is getting thinner by the week.Their ideology has dug a hole that's unfillable!
Also, in 1980, the then tory Government brought in modular training so that companies only had to teach apprentices the skills they needed them to be able to do. Because of that a lot of skills were lost and that is why we can't train people here Nick, because the people who had the skills didn't get to pass them on so that companies could save money on training.
@@KenPassey-hd2mc Well for them she was.
Agree seem funny how they never remember this or blame someone else. Thatcher has sold our Ultitiles to foreign buyers. Our Manufacturing base to oversea. People point out she stood up to miners and won the falklands. No she did it was the troops that did. In fact her words were. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOCIETY.
We used to. But in 2015, the tories stopped nurses' bursaries. This caused a 41% drop in nursing numbers.
My daughter did her degree in 2013 or thereabouts she now trains nurses for the NHS. We need to train our own young people and give them a future not import foreigners who are coming here for the money.
@@Leigh-ry3ybOh mate, they've had your pants down and you're still playing their game.
@@Leigh-ry3yb22k to train a nurse in the uk atm. or 50k a year in Australia. 50k to work in Ireland. No wonder there is a shortage.
@@AndrewMcevoy-d8n We are getting the ones that can't get into the USA, Australia etc.. People are paid less than the USA in skilled work and pay more tax and it's more expensive to live here. Why even think about it.
@@SalikRafiqThat's outright BS. A lot more migrant nurses aren't the rejected of the US or Australia. They tend to prefer the UK because of the colonial connection. But with the increasing pushback, more will go elsewhere. And if y'all know anything about the competence of the nurses, you'll find out pretty soon that this is not a real solution. It's just a populist one and you'll find how tough things will turn in the next couple of years.
Middle aged and elderly gammons are going to be quite annoyed when they discover young British people don't want to wipe their arses for a living 😂😂
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We don’t all require that kind of care, but remember, everyone gets there if they live long enough!
There was a time when they would have done; but nowadays, everyone is told that they are too 'special' for such things. I think that people ought to remember that their parents cared for them when they were children, and it's fair to repay them when they are older.
They already dont. And what are you going to do in 50 or 60 years time? if you keep voting tory or any right wing government into office
1:45 None of the Thai or Filipinos or other East Asian people I work with (or even the Indians and Pakistani doctors/nurses) have used housing benefits. They’re not allowed public funds until they get citizenship and they have strong cultural taboo about being “unaccomplished” so they always have jobs (hence not reliant on government funds). They need houses for sure but they pay it from their salary. All this time, I thought they help support the economy because they are part of the workforce and the spending population.
Why not employ the British who already have homes, and pay them a decent wage? Mass immigration has caused a housing shortage crisis in the UK!
@careytitan9097 you must be joking, right?
The NHS relies heavily on foreign-trained healthcare workers to fill vacancies and ensure that patients receive the care they need.
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Why???
The UK has a long-standing shortage of UK-trained healthcare professionals. This is due to a number of factors, including:
*A lack of capacity in UK medical schools and nursing schools to train enough students.
*A decline in the number of students who are choosing to study healthcare professions.
*A brain drain of healthcare professionals who have left the UK to work in other countries where they can earn higher salaries and have better working conditions.
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Increased demand for healthcare services:
The UK's population is ageing and the demand for healthcare services is growing. This is putting additional strain on the NHS and making it more difficult to recruit and retain UK-trained staff.
Cost-effectiveness: It can be cheaper to recruit foreign-trained healthcare workers, as the UK government does not have to pay the costs of training them.
Flexibility: The NHS can recruit foreign-trained healthcare workers more quickly than it can train them domestically. This can be helpful in times of crisis or when there are specific skills shortages.
What crisis? I will let you figure that out
@@saintchai20 The real reason we need more doctors and nurses is because of all the extra millions of immigrants coming into the country! No immigrants, no need for extra doctors and nurses! Immigration is creating the problem!
@@saintchai20101% SPOT ON.
@@saintchai20Thats not true, we actually have an increase of people who decide to work in healthcare, they quit once they realise its alot of work for so little money
“Doesn’t speak clear English” - it’s nuts how many people confuse accents with language. I’ve seen people from African/European/Asian countries speak FAR better English than Brits - they just do so with their own accent.
Unlike the English, those foreigners that do learn English are taught to do so correctly. But I know from personal experience that it can work the other way, too; as when English people learn foreign languages.
missed the mark on this one, i've met a great number of migrant workers who are in professional positions that don't have functional english skills...especially in hospitals.
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I need a translator for Indian help lines.
@@PathsofExile 🤦♂️
Strange that when apprenticeships were pretty much made redundant in the 80's, everyone but the government knew it was a terrible idea. You reap what you sow.
BECAUSE JOBS HERE DON'T PAY ENOUGH!!!! But you don't want to have that conversation so just blame immigrants,
...don't pay enough to cover rents! Which are spiralling up because half the third world is arriving.
Very true words
Why can't we just train people in this country? Errr... student debts, the Tories fear of people getting educated, lack of money going into state schools, lack of decent pay if you do get qualified.
There are lots of reasons why British young people don't become medical staff.
because we`re fat and lazy
@@herrguru4264😂😂 summed up well
@@herrguru4264 Being thick as mince and with a nasty judgemental streak, often makes people susceptible to the propaganda of the Tory press.
No. It's nothing political. Just short-termism from our politicians on both sides.
you might me, I'm not
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Nick, your grandad wouldn't have been allowed in under this policy, THAT'S the point.
It's all very well saying "train up our own people" BUT the people who own the care homes etc DO NOT want to pay to train them or pay a living wage when they are trained. Many of these business owners vote Tory and larger ones even donate to them in hopes of lower taxes and to be able to pay terrible wages, they certainly don't want a government that would force them to train and pay enough to attract British people.
which care home business owners have donated to the Tories? all donations must be public so I am curious
From what I've read care workers are funded by the local council and they claim they can't afford to pay more because they don't receive enough money from central government.
My wife was a highly experienced care worker but she quit in her mid 30s. It simply doesn't pay. It's a tough job that not just anyone can do, and the hours aren't always kind.
Until the pay rapidly goes up (and I mean rapidly) people will choose other careers. It's really that simple.
My wife had 2 carers 4 times a day for 2 years before she died. I agree they are all wonderful caring people. Underpaid and emotional stressful for them . Yet this Government call them unskilled. How out of touch they are! This is not a job for everyone. My thoughts and thanks go out to all our hard working and conscientious carers no matter which country they come from.
@@KenPassey-hd2mc I used to work as care worker but did not work as much as my retail although pay was 10% higher due to nature of job. I would not work as care worker even if pay if £20/hour but happy to work for minimum wages in retail etc. This kinda gives context how tough care work is. Big salute to the people who do it.
@@KenPassey-hd2mc when and where have the government called them unskilled? cause that's simply a lie lol
If your package is attractive enough for the local Brits, the market will drive them in instead of driving them away. Just simple common sense .
Like I said. Lazy and entitled.
@@osei1977 I guess you would be comfortable breaking your back for a breadline wage??
I don't think it's as black and white as you said. Not all industries are the same. How do you make a blue collar job more attractive? Not everything can be solved by throwing money at it. Some jobs people just find 'undesirable' and will always have turnover problems
The problem isn't training people, it's that employers want to pay them less than a living wage once they're trained. The whole system is out of kilter, meanwhile the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Even if these care home workers are only getting paid minimum wage (say 50 hours a week) then they are contributing to their employers profit of at least double that, ie they are in effect £30 per hour workers. Then we take the issue of care homes deliberately never employing enough staff, then each worker is doing on average the work of one and half workers, so then that brings the effective value of that worker up to £45 per hour. If then that employer paid their taxes properly in the UK, and most don't then, indirectly that worker had contributed enough for his wife and family to live here too. As for care homes in particular, many are set up to be tax dodges, eg Owner of capital sets up a company in a tax haven and ostensibly lends a newly set up company in the UK to buy a care home on 100% finance, then that tax haven company charges the UK company say 15% interest rates, then at the end of the tax year, on paper, thanks to the interest paid makes no declarable profit. This is financial engineering and in effect is tax evasion. This is modern capitalism at work, as idealised by the tory government in particular.
If the Tories go ahead to stop these people working here, I think that every single brexiteer should be press ganged into a care home in their spare time to do this work, since Brexit, have refused to do. After all it was them that saw these jobs as stolen.
As for nurses. It is nearly 5 years since the Tories abandoned nurse training bursaries, which of course lead to the deliberate decline in home grown nurses. This was deliberate policy.
EXACTLY !!! a hat tip to ya my friend, well said.
We left the EU and lost a huge swathe of workers in agriculture, the NHS, hospitality and the care sectors. You can't force people to take jobs they dont want when there are other, more suitable/better paying, jobs to go to. You can't have what you want without compromises. Legal migration is necessary for this country to function. Legal immigrants aren't the problem but are part of the solution.
@@chrisj9700 No, we need the skilled workers and the unskilled workers, especially in the care sector. We need them to look after our aging population and pay taxes for our pensions. You saying we don't does not make it so.
They did not leave because of Covid what a downright disgusting lie. It was clearly Brexit why most EU workers went home, a) becuase they were clearly not welcome by "people" like yourself and b) because it was wise to jump off the sinking ship and go work in another EU country which does actually value them. Getting rid of freedom of movement was one of the most idoitic things this country has ever done.
When I was unemployed I was told that if I did not attend I would get no money
@@greamespens1460 Nobody knows what point youre trying to make.
@@whatwentwrong4599 I was referring to the part where it is claimed you cannot force people to work. I
@@chrisj9700 This is on account of flawed tory thinking. Tory inspired employers don't want to train, they don't see it as their responsibility. Tory governments don't want to train either unless there is a profit in it for their cronies, hence not enough of the right workers. (unlike the old days where both government and employers took responsibility) The only answer then is immigration, but with a twist, ie pay them less. A win-win for Tories and employers, and to top it off our greedy private landlords will fill their pockets.
"Local accents for local people !!!!! " Pathetic.
There is a story in the paper about two carers unable to speak literate English to call and save their patients life
@@greamespens1460 Daily Mail doesn't contain any ftruth though, even Wikipedia won't use it as a source.
@@fricozoid1 I did not get the story from the Daily Mail.
@@greamespens1460 why, after 13 years, do you think care homes are having to hire people who can't even speak English to help us?
@@fricozoid1 There are plenty of out of work people in this country that can speak English.
The problem with the UK is the wages are too low and the cost of living is now too high. I’m university educated and a trained English teacher. I left the UK almost two years ago and can’t see myself going back. This trend will likely continue, as will migration from other parts of the world to fill our labour shortages
Nothing will change in 10 years more in the uk leaving the EU on bad terms plunged the UK into crisis
This is the reason I am planning to leave the UK.
I work in finance and am completely a higher earner. But high taxes, no services being provided. Earning too much to get any support especially with nursery fees. And the sheer cost of buying a family home is the cliff edge.
3 up 3 down terrace House in London are going for more than a million. Don't tell me to move out of London because I have to be in the office at least 4 days a week and I don't want to spend 15 hours a week commuting with a young family.
Solution: moving to other financial hubs that pay twice it thrice as much with the same living cost as the UK. Simple
@@1985MrFRESH In the UK they only know how to take people's money, not how to earn and invest it.
Soon they will control themselves and eventually the robots will control them and that will be the end for them.Thoughtlessness
Irony is colonising half the world then moaning when accents aren't colloquial enough 🙄
Nursing, child care and care of the elderly are not areas you can just train people up to do. There is a certain type of vocation needed. Basically, you can’t teach people to care.
Exactly. You are either cut out to be in a caring profession or you aren't. There's a specific skill set of interpersonal and compassionate traits which no one can teach in a classroom
And even if you do care, you might not have the stomach for it either. I certainly don't, which is in fact the only reason why I never went into any sort of medical/care profession.
We're the most uncaring country around in my opinion, and it's a systemic issue that has been around for decades. But morons will blame whatever party is in charge instead of themselves.
You wouldn't want your parents or yourself cared for by people who would rather not do the job. Carers need to be people who actually care
@stevec6427, and they are foreigners. So why are we having this argument? Brits don't want to work in low paying sectors.
Thing is, a lot of these jobs are not a two week course. Time from A-Levels to be a doc? Around ten years. We need to be planning many years ahead.
That's why the tories made it harder for British people to become nurses and doctors. So they would have an excuse to import the world. Clever people the tories.
@@albert7311 Better to work as a nurse in norway the annual salary is £60,000 😎
MP's are always looking for second jobs. I'm sure they'll be delighted to lead the way in working in a care home. Lead from the front and all that.
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I left the UK 7 years ago for Australia and I have to admit, I have very conflicting feelings about returning.
Which way though? Back to UK from homesick or because of Oz?
You better remain in Australia my friend
@@silvao1567 Australia and Canada are going the same way.
Nick Ferrari will soon be in a care home. Let’s see how many Brit natives volunteer to look after him there
This rules should be stopped. It’s not fair the amount of salary he announced for them who wants to bring their spouse. This is injustice. It should be stop 🛑
Im about to marry the woman of my dreams. Im devastated now.
Tories: Poor people don't deserve love or family
It is an injustice, mass uncontrolled immigration needs to stop!
This isn't Injustice . It is Discrimination @ the most lowest level by the BS policy maker's.
let that sinks in (all quotes from the first 25 seconds) "if you cannot contribute to the UK, you are not coming to the UK".... and then... "my grandad got in because he was opening restaurants" - 1. can you open a restaurant before arriving? 2. your grandad contributed after arriving and you only spew hate on radio while gaining weight - that is not a contribution to the economy 3. can little children travelling with their parents immediately contribute? 4. tories are defending the law that prevents asylum seekers from working... but why would facts and logic matter to a tory
Basic common sense. Because the % of UK born kids is falling & unemployment is at record low, so there's not enough people to fill the spots.
The UK has 5,000,000 employable people who are currently unemployed or on benefits. We do have enough people in our indigenous population to work, but they need to be educated, trained and employed. Businesses just can't be bothered to train and foreign workers are cheaper, thus damaging our economy.
@pmarsh3700 You haven't engaged with facts & evidence. Have you found out how many want to do that job? Have you found out how many can physically or mentally do the job? Have you found out how many will have kids or get long-term sick? Have you found out how many can pass the test and have the correct personality? No.
@@pmarsh3700 "indigenous population" boom, there we go.
@@pmarsh3700 Yeh mate, mentally and physically disabled are also included on that list of eligible workers...
My mum was on that list before she retired, been on disability for 15 years and unable to go up stairs but DWP was trying to force her into a job like factory work
The bulk of which are only unemployed for 16 weeks or less. If an accountant in London is made redundant, do you think he's going to relocate to Lancashire to work in a care home whilst he looks for another accountancy job ? @@pmarsh3700
I went to college for two years health and social care NVQ 2 NVQ 3 and then 2011:they unskilled us and don't recognise are qualifications and allowed anyone into care jobs and wages fell so how did that help the qualified skilled staff
Most other countries look after elderly people within the family; the UK has developed a tradition of sticking them in homes - an incredibly costly alternative but saves people having to bother.
Why bother caring for their nan when they sit on the couch watching Netflix and gorging on junk food.
People have rent to pay. Who has time to care 24/7 for there Mum when they will just end up homeless
@@mattb4494 maybe if they didn’t spend all their money on smartphones, Sky tv, broadband, Netflix, junk food and a car in the drip they’d be financially better off.
@@mattb4494 If.their mum needs care then they would be claiming a rent rebate.
I remember leaving school trying to get an apprenticeship in building back in 2011 there was nothing. Everything's been put into degrees but trades have been put on a back burner.
I'm a Londoner born and bread been married for 10 years we have a daughter who is autistic. my family are broken by this goverment i am as british as can be. no way can up my income by 6k a year. but as i support my family i pay my Taxes my rent and bills. but to bring my family here i would have to move to a cheaper part of the UK as you cannot rent a place to meet the visa rules. why do they have to make it all about money. are the working class only aloud the be with a british partner now. why not basses the visa on what you will give the UK . maybe make spouses of british people do 2 years national service like working in care homes.
If we want to attract workers into healthcare professions, we need to pay them well and treat them well. Care workers on near minimum wage. Doctors on £14 an hour is a disgrace.
For too long migrant workers have been used to suppress wages and working conditions.
I am pro immigration, but we need to end the exploitation of both migrant and domestic workers.
All workers, across all sectors, deserve descent pay and working conditions!!!
I don't want a doctor on subsistence wages. They will treat their patients with the same disdain their employer treats those on minimum wage.
Migrant workers and low paid British workers are not in competition for the same jobs. Your last line however, is where and what we should be aiming at. Why have successive governments failed to do that? The Neo-Liberal model requires it.
"The Comforts of the Rich depends on an Abundance of the Poor"....Voltaire.
We used to train our own health care workers years ago but governments stopped it
There's no problem were going to get the Old and the sick to do all the Job's.... The government said last Week. !!
James O'Brien must be chomping at the bit . listening to Ferraris responses,
Thatcher's government incentivised builders to go self-employed so they had effectively no reason to take on apprenticeships, and then closed down government run training, and then the social poisoning employed by Blair in the form of pushing higher education painted being a builder or bricklayer as "low skill work" and therefore undesirable and lesser.
Consecutive, self serving governments for decades upon decades have caused this issue, it's not a football match argument where you boo the other side- they are all to blame.
I am Spanish and I do live here for almost 5 years, I work as a charity fundraiser for different organisations and the amount of racism and bulling I have to suffer from this upper class British when I was them to donate for our organisations is astonishing.
They can clearly understand me but they choose to make fun and bully me because of my strong Spanish accent.
Some of them believe that we have to be their servants just because I came from abroad and I have no rights for breaks or eat when working long hours too. You are bulling people from Europe but you all happy to let in all the worse from the most conservative countries in the world who have no intention to work neither to integrate.
.....interesting tale...😊
We are not 'happy to let in all the worse...' we don't want any immigrants here.
@@albert7311 With your point of view then you can take all the British out of Spain too . Also, we want Gibraltar back. You can’t just eat the best piece of the cake mate. Life is about sharing with respect. 😉
@@Norabcnyep agree with what your saying
"You all happy to let in all the worse from the most Conservative countries in the world". I understand you're upset by your treatment but there's no need to turn into a xenophobe.
The Philippines has one of highest standard of training for Nurse's the USA is falling over them selves to get them.
You reap what you sow, as a country, a people and an electorate.
Certainly the healthcare professionals coming to the UK today have a hard requirement to pass English exams before even applying to come here. Source, my wife is an immigrant, and some of her extended family trained to be nurses and doctors abroad before coming to the UK to work in the NHS. She tells me this was not the case with European nationals before brexit 🤷♂, but was and is the case when coming from countries outside of the EU.
I'm sure Anne's heart is in the right place. However she's clearly not a foreign national that has gone through training to come to work in the UK, and can't speak of how thorough it is or isn't. In the last few years I've seen a niece go through all the training to be taken on by the NHS as a doctor. I know the training she went through to be a doctor abroad, the years on the job practice and additional training she did before coming to the UK, the english tests, medical tests, in person interviews here in the UK, and the, so far, years of practicing she's done here in the NHS. Training is not a problem. Her first job was in an NHS hospital working in A&E and then moving to a cancer ward, housing was made available onsite - a block for nurses and other medical staff that was largely empty; housing isn't a problem either.
The problem is pay, and stresses of working in the NHS - which are all money based problems. Foreign nationals coming to the UK to work in the NHS will stay with the NHS for the minimum amount of time, then go and work in the private sector for more money. Isn't it ironic that the Conservatives drive to erode the NHS and privatise it piece by piece and under-fund it year after year is having a direct contribution to the rising immigration numbers that it hates so much...
It's simple because people in the UK don't have the same work ethic as people from abroad. However you look at it you still need immigration and that's the world we live in.
This is a flat-out lie.. people here just aren't willing to work for pennies just because an immigrant will.
But there's nothing wrong with that? Of course if you've grown up in poverty you will settle for less and work harder for that. We need to stop giving employers a choice to hire desperate immigrants
100% with you. The British stopped caring about vocational training a long time ago.
No they can't survive on starvation wages
@@exodus1536 English employees want fatter pockets hence why they hire cheap foreign labour.
Talking of flat out lies, let’s actually call out the ppl causing the problem… instead of blaming the ppl who are doing the work. It’s easy to see who the final decision lies with.
to work in a care home id be looking £50 an hour.
Too right.
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"Why arent we training more people?"
Why dont you get your kids to do it? I wouldnt be a care worker for £40k a year, let alone minimum wage. I can earn 4 times as much pushing round some papers and listening to UA-cam videos. Some people are thick as mince.
How can I get a job like that please?
@yorewhyworry7217
Convince the company you work in to train you and get further qualifications and then have no loyalty and go for a higher paid job somewhere else soon as you pass. If you aren't upskilling in your job whilst working, get another one soon as possible. Tech is very cushy in the right company, coding for example, if you can get a promotion, convince them a management course is in both the companies and your interests. Now you don't even do anything just make sure other people are doing what they should be.
I had to switch off after the first caller said that all immigrants must learn English. The minute that elderly British immigrants start learning to speak fluent Spanish in Benidorm is the day immigrants to Britain should learn English.
The Spanish don’t give them council flats and benefits they go with money to support themselves , the Spanish also don’t supply translators,
...what a ridiculous comparison....come on!!
@@bushwhackeddos.2703 The British don't either.
I heard a university Dean (head of medical school) say in an interview earlier this year they weren't allowed to accept any UK students, only foreign (money presumably).
Says it all.
complete nonsense. UK has more English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish med school students than Indian, Pakistani or Nigerian medical students (here in the UK). the only difference is British senior doctors prefer working in high paying med professions (cardiology, clinical radiology urology, hospital directors, neurology, dentists, plastic surgery, anesthesiology, Private clinics etc) while the foreigners focus on the bread & butter medical fields (Emergency care, elderly care, OBs, junior doctorships, GPs.
Name and shame if you want that to stop!
Until you realise the sector pays peanuts for these jobs 😂. People are wise .
This small country will very soon sink beneath the waves.
Reopen the government training centres
Go for legal migration to distract from illegal migration plan I guess
Illegal migration could be stopped by opening up safe routes for refugees, and then processing them faster !!!!!
You didn't need the last word in your comment. Otherwise, agreed 👍
We no longer have the Dublin accords to get rid of those who fail.
I live in London and work for a local authority - since the financial crash of 2008 - we were penalized via 15 year hiatus without any payrise - it was like serving a jail term for a crime they knew we did not commìt - but had to pay the price for a corrupt system that protects their own and penalises the weak and ordinary - our innocence counts for nothing - none of those greedy, criminal bankers got anywhere close to 15 years behind bars for the crime that they committed-!! EVERYONE OF THEM SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN 100 YEARS EACH!!!!!
Why aren't schools teaching skills this country needs theirs no wonder british people cant get jobs if we aren't training our own youth from schools upwards.
Why are people still talking about small boats that count for only 4% of arrivals?
Because they are thick
@@speedyhillski tbh, I think it's reliance on their support being so.
Apparently, we don't want immigrant workers but we also don't want to fund education for ourselves - those two things can't exist at the same time.
Spend money on your own country, not the 3rd world
@@gtrdxz well, you need to spend money on 3rd world countries. It helps reduce the risk of wars, and crime that would spill over to affecting us. For example, piracy in Somalia.
As for spending on our own country first... public spending is massively down when accounting for inflation and %GDP and national debt is increasing at a frightening rate. This is standard for a Tory government, BUT, we (us, not the wealthy) currently have the highest tax burden since the 2nd world war! Where's the money going? Or is it just coincidence that the gap between the wealthiest and the rest of us has sky rocketed?
We have the worst run government in our history with the prospect of even more useless one in the wings . This Country need help fast. But please no more politicians.
Why can’t the UK government train nurses , doctors and carers and social workers at a low price . Create programmes within the country that encourages these careers?
The old system that was built has done its time ! Tear it down and rebuild.
Works for me. Most people here, don’t care about Britain.
I hope that the EU will use the same methodology regarding the 'expats' particularly the elderly people with homes in Spain, France and co
We need to be paying for and training up the indigenous people, many of who can’t afford the universities, etc. ! let’s train up our own people!
It's so funny how the yt people complain about small inconveniences because of brown people. I wonder how the people they colonized felt.
I have wondered this so many times....but I guess when someone is in pain it's funny ....when you're in pain your angry and upset ......
Absolutely. There are many people in Britain can be trained
So funny to hear old people talk about immigration like if they know a thing. Cheap labour will always exist specially in Britain as it diverges from the EU. We actually need people as much as we need training but training will take 20 years to take effect.
Why do we need 150,000 dependents accompanying foreign students every year? I don't think they're a net benefit to the economy?
@@VPhantom-rf3qo because without them the parents will not come. Nobody gonna leave their families away for such periods of time. Also dependants pay for everything and it also means more money is paid into local economy. But that’s basic economics which seem beyond the educational level of most Brits today
It's funny how these people forget that families still need to live and that requires buying from local communities
Usually with benefits provided by the working British tax payer😊@@ChocolateBear239
@cmsacademy1673 Dependants do not mean only parents. It's usually the students' partner, parents, or siblings. What do you mean nobody is going to leave their families for such periods of time? Millions of foreign students do. I'm pretty sure the dependents are entitled to emergency services, roads, under 18 education? The students themselves aren't a significant benefit for the country either. They help the unis themselves.
Most people who come to UK m😢 already speak English so I don't know what this caller is talking about
Soooo the UK has no staff for anything. Brits born here most went to uni to study for a specific career or started a business - therefore some jobs are not suitable for them. Many moved abroad.
Second- those who didn’t follow career routes mentioned above are already working but even if they were not, there still wouldn’t have been enough staff to cover shortfalls.
Therefore - we need people to come and support the industry shortfalls.
In relation to ‘illegal migration (which isn’t a thing) - the government are failing.
We need taxes- we need people to come here even to fund the economy- unless the richest and those complaining are prepared to pay more tax to support public services? If not then people need to get a grip and deal with it. Simple- farmers don’t even have seasonal fruit pickers, no transport truck drivers, nobody in construction …. Because most brits are trained in degree related professions or are already working!
This government has a pathological revulsion towards educating/training British people.
Sounds an awful lot like you (and callers, and imo most sensible people) support Labour’s ambition for a National Care Service (trained along similar lines to how carers were trained in the last Labour government), and for it to be integrated into the National Health Service. It would allow those in need of care to be seen at home instead of clogging up A&E and taking up a bed in hospital for a couple of days.
So many ‘Home’ issues can be completely resolved by looking at the last Labour government (and I do not say that as a Labour supporter, I say that as someone who feels driven to despair by the party I have supported until Boris came in and dragged it waaaay past Faragism and into this bizarre BNP territory).
The Tories are lording it."Blame the immigrants ". Tap into the basic British Garnett prejudice.
Kerching !
I'm british and I work in social care and i can tell you now. I don't not want to do this job anymore !! It's hard long hours and awful pay. BAD MANAGERS. deliberately understaffed to pay for managers big salary. Now british people do not want to do this job anymore on the low pay! If you want better care you better start paying carers better or you will never seen anyone in your care home working that is actually british!
Look at they pay for most of the public service sectors. You gotta be a loser before admitting that you have to work in a public service for the rest of your life, especially nurses and teachers.
Let me tell you this story about a young nurse/midwife who took care of my wife about 8 years ago. She came back and forth to check my wife, starting at about 10 pm and said bye to us at about 4 am. I was with my wife (it was our first child) at the hospital. At about 7-8 am, I went down to a M&S in the hospital and I could not believe what I saw. That young nurse was working in M&S at 8 am!!!! You don't work that hard unless struggling with money to cover bills.
This is the reason I am planning to leave the UK.
I work in finance and am completely a higher earner. But high taxes, no services being provided. Earning too much to get any support especially with nursery fees. And the sheer cost of buying a family home is the cliff edge.
3 up 3 down terrace House in London are going for more than a million. Don't tell me to move out of London because I have to be in the office at least 4 days a week and I don't want to spend 15 hours a week commuting with a young family.
Solution: moving to other financial hubs that pay twice it thrice as much with the same living cost as the UK. Simple
The vast majority of people from other countries can speak excellent English
I have American friends that moved here to work in the NHS as doctors and nurses that will be moving back because of the new immigration policies
Why is it the people of the UK are constantly requested to give their money away to other countries?
„The people filling the jobs we don‘t want to do and who deliver our amazon packages, pick our produce and care for our parents/grandparents are torturing us by not speaking proper English“. Is she serious? Torture?! Have you listened to people in the UK speak? 25% of your people are unintelligible and they grew up with the language. And you as a British person should have ample experience and knowledge of proper torture, if not feel free to ask around in your former colonies.
Scrap the rules allowing companies to pay people 20% less for foreign labour. Without competitive wages the care homes will always struggle.
Eccomys struggle when wages are suppressed.
If people hate the country, leave...
Does this policy applies to those who are in the armed forces as well?
My area has been destroyed by immigrants - it's a hellhole here now, I hate it. I'm working all the overtime I can get and saving up to get a flight ticket and a few months money to survive on abroad. Why have they done this to our country?
Im trained in health and social care with other a decade of experience.
I left almost 2 years ago becase the pay was so poor. I was on £10.30 an hour for shift work, and £10.40 night shifts.
I personally believe that cheaper Social Housing helps fuel lower wages, as those who recieve such discounted housing, are saving hundreds of pounds each month compared to full price rents or a mortgage.
Then because they dint need to work so many hours to pay the bills, they often get Universal Credit.
So the problem isnt lack of workers, its lack of pay and too generous a benifits system.
Because a section of our society just don't want to work full stop
Would be interesting to hear from all the UK citizens who want to work for NHS bit cannot or won’t. Is it all a myth? Why is the continued call for immigrants workers if citizens want to work?
Because the NHS does not pay enough. Why? Its underfunded. How to fund it properly? Stop wasting money on projects like HS2 or dodgy covid contracts
Cheap labour
Because no one wants to pay for it.
Because they would be able to take care of themselves and not be dependent on Government handouts!
How low has this country become? perhaps MR UnCleverly would like to stay in Africa and live without armed protection and tell me if it is safe, well his ancestor's had a different trial by fire.
Because the UK is a sinking ship, cannot pay the amount that Brits would be satisfied. The only people trying to land in the UK are Indian (253,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (89,000), Pakistani (55,000) and Ukrainian (35,000) who still want to migrate to the UK because their wages and living conditions in the UK are still better than their home country.
The UK let companies hire people from India. Why don’t we train British people?
So sad, the amount of money nurses earn in a month in UK is what nurses earn in just a week in other countries. Even if they train nurses here, they'll all run away 🏃♂️ to other countries becauseof the poor salary and working conditions. The bottom line is, the government should do something about the salary of nurses. At least it will motivate people to enrol in nurses countries in the universities.
U cant train the people who are not willing to be trained and not willing to do the job immigrants are doing
Yet British people are doing these jobs. There are not immigrant workers everywhere in the UK. And where there are not then local people tend to do these jobs.
It is all about capitalism and getting the cheapest work force in.
The great replacement is real.
The Government is deep in debt. Caused by its constant borrowing at the expense of the Taxpayers. It always created generational debt, that babies born today are going to pay for today's debt in the future.
So, the population level needs to be such that the debts can be repaid in the future without failure. Therefore, immigration will always occur regardless of public opinion. There will always be Taxation as long as people need Government.
Slavery was never abolished. Only renamed.🎉🎉🎉🎉😮
I have worked in the health and care sector for over a decade and I can confirm, the wages never caught up with inflation and cost of living. I used to get £12 an hour in 2013 but I am now paid just about £12.50 over 10 years later. I know several organisations that only pays the minimum wage. This sectors is hard work and many families (even foreign recruits) struggle on the wage rate. I don't want to continue earning peanuts for the quality of services that I offer to my patients. Many British colleagues will never accept such wage for 12 hour long day shift to spend your day-off catching up on sleeping. These foreign workers fill the gaps left before covid 19 and they deserve respect and more IMHO. Also, they never get free housing or benefits as many would assume and are forced by the government to pay for NHS fees (health surcharge) despite paying tax and contributing via NI. This is all a government policy scam.
This lady is Spot on! These immigrants coming in get grants from Governments and these recruitment companies get bonuses for supplying cheap foreign labour. Its a loop hole that will not stop.
GET THEM OUT
Are you in pain...
@@millicentgranger6035 yes when boat loads of immigrants come to our shores by boats and think they have a right to live a safe life,get a grip fella,
How about instead of training illegal immigrants we train all of the kids in this country with useless university degrees 🤷♂️
in county where we are 900.000 vacancies we are turning away labour ?!
Funny how even at the height of the IDS-McVey reforms the number of vacancies was the same. It's almost like it's a static figure fiddled for ideological purposes.
That’s right..once we can offer business fully trained staff , then make if difficult for foreigners.,
You don’t do it the other away round. That will just bankrupt small businesses.