I like the 2.5 inch drive holder. It can be modified easily into a U.2 drive holder, then you can install a 12.8TB enterprise drive in it, which is larger, more performant and more reliable than an M.2 client drive.
I would always want a 2.5" Sata slot if possible, just for extra storage options. Very cheap to add a 2.5" mechanical drive that you don't need to be high speed, and it's still a fair bit cheaper to buy a sata 4TB SSD than an M.2 NVMe SSD. And a huge difference if you step up to 8TB Sata vs NVMe.
Urgent! Can you address in a new short video, or leave a pinned comment bellow this video about the WiFi cable (1 white) being almost destroyed with the corner screw... You can see the damage in multiple spots for example here: 07:52
That would be something reviewed by Serve The Home or Lawrence Systems. One such example is made by Super Micro but its also super expensive, averaging about 900 dollars.
@STH I really like your reviews, especially as I am currently looking to find the perfect power efficient mini server (network + nvr). Do you plan on also including some AI benchmarks in the future? Both Intel and AMD are promoting their NPUs and I for example am looking for a small but efficient unit which provides the best acceleration for object detection. It may sound like a niche but honestly for modern NVR scenarios these units are actually a viable option. I'm looking forward for a Ryzen 80x0 vs Meteor-Lake! But then again, you should have at least one or two tests to show the difference in the NPUs of those Units. Keep on your good work!
7:55 The silicon for the AX1675x is the same as the AX210 as far as I'm aware, the special PCI device ID just gets you access to the Killer software utilities.
Intel NUCs are great little hardware devices. What they never got correct was support with crazy hoops to jump through for repair/replacement. Hopefully ASUS will correct the support issue.
There actually are adapters to go from a micro SD slot to a full SD slot, they're just not as common and compact as the other way around. For me, personally, I see these mini PCs as proxmox hosts, and wouldn't use an SD card slot at all. About the small 256GB m.2, I'd prefer they offer barebones options instead. There is an option to go up to larger capacities, but no option to exclude it. Are these Intel NUCs, or are they off-brand? I was under the impression that this company was just an Intel NUC retailer, but this looks like their own custom hardware?
Same here, I would have bought this as a barebone kit, but being a US-based company I can understand why they don't want to sell such a thing and have to support people who don't know any better and are trying to boot a machine with no Ram or storage... or the goofballs who tried to save a buck but don't know what they're doing.
I like the SATA drive option in this, but I do wish they would use a better solution for the connection that used pogo pins instead of a delicate ribbon cable.
interestingly the unit supports 96gb but is not an option instore, so you supply it yourself and still have to order the NUC with a 8gb stick. no option to say no RAM.
Err 5:53 & 7:58, looks like the wireless coax got trapped, top right. Regarding 2.5" SATA: 8TB SATA SSDs are less than half the price of NVME, and great for quick retrieval & syncing of geo redundant NAS.
I recently upgraded my two 256GB NVME drives on my daily-driver PC to two 1TB NVME drives... I have no clue why I purchased those 256GB drives and now I don't know what to do with them because I have nothing I would use with less than 1TB at this point..
Did I go to the wrong website for this thing? Cuz if not and they're actually asking a thousand bucks for the i9-13900H model, I would expect a lot better than the 8GB DDR5 and 256GB NVME SSD they ship it with.
If you want to run proxmox with zfs then it can ruin a consumer grade SSD or NVME easily in a year. But with proxmox running on a cheap micron/intel server grade 2.5" ssd from ebay you don't need to worry about SSD wear and you can still use NVME ssd for any other stuff.
Hi Patrick! Exactly like you said, those USB 2.0 ports are still really valuable for keyboard and mouse receivers. USB 3.0 can often interfere with 2.4ghz RF at close range. Ideally, you'd even put a little hub on the port to get the receiver away from the other USB 3.0. It was a whole thing back in the day when I was in client tech support and USB docks first started being a thing. For the SD card slot, I 100% agree it would have been better as full size. Do you think they were thinking of imaging Raspberry Pi and other SBC systems? Even then I'd argue for SDcard, since the micro SD almost always comes with an adapter anyway.
Oh - I've always been wondering, which part exactly is interfering? The chip itself, the protocol, something in the hub too? Like, can you just use a USB 2.0 hub/cable to bypass that issue? Or is a 3.0 hub okay too, as long as it's away from the port?
@@Lishtenbird I'm not sure. It seems like it is less of a problem than it used to be. There is a 2012 intel document on the problem that says that within 3ft of the usb3.0 is bad, and a 2021 nsf paper on it still being a problem on usb-c. www.usb.org/sites/default/files/327216.pdf par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10213255
Once I saw that it has a microSD card slot, the HDMI ports, and the 2.5" SATA port it was clear that this is a corporate PC, through and through, although the i9 option definitely seems like it would have limited use with the target audience (perhaps it's there for the margins?). I really do like this thing's design for corporate use though, and while Patrick's suggestions would be great for enthusiast use, this thing checks all the boxes for corporate desk work and cheap terminals mounted behind cheap monitors.
@@Lishtenbird The USB 3 design itself leads to the interference on the 2.4GHz band. The reference frequency for the USB data lines is 2.5GHz and that's close enough to cause interference with 2.4GHz radios. I ran into this the other day when I was setting up a new computer with a Logitech wireless mouse dongle plugged in next to a USB 3 port I was using to copy data from an external SSD. The interference caused the mouse cursor to stutter. I'm not sure if a USB 3 hub would have the same problems, but simply moving the keyboard/mouse receiver to a port in another location on the machine or using an extension cable to move the receiver farther away will help.
Just some feedback on the gripes. It's easy to say you want an SD card slot and I agree that is way better than just a Micro however then 2 mins later you can't just blow off not having native display and saying it's fine just get an adaptor. An adaptor would solve both of these problems so it can't be ok for one and not the other.
I also shoot on lots of equipment that have full size SD... I just use the adapter that comes with the micro SD card. There's no reason you can't do the same and probably get a drastic increase in performance with some of the current micro SD offerings.
Is there any reason why the expansion panel on the back wasn't even discussed? You can put a module here that has another 2.5 Ethernet port and another 2 USB ports.
If your data is all stored on your network, you shouldn’t need too much ssd capacity. Maybe it’s 256 to provide a cheaper option for these setups. Especially with company computers or even school computers, this should be enough. Need more ram though.
@07:31 uuuuuf that totally crushed wifi/bt antenna cable at top left needs to be swapped.. .that's a horrible location for it. was it like that from the factory?
I concurre and say that a 2.5" bay is more efficient. BEcause we all have some olf 2.5" SSD laying around. And note having to buy something new and additionally not having something laying arounf with no use is the most efficient thing.
8tb nvme is a whole lot more expensive than 8tb 2.5 sata ssd. 2.5" drive bays are always welcome, and two of them would enable redundancy raid in case i want a tiny micro nas.
the one thing that i will agree with you on is that these are not made for the everyday home user. but to your 2 downsides (the sd card slot and the hdd bay), as a corporate user i'd say this....first off, most if not all camera's today can plug into the usb slot of the machine and is what we use with all our cameras. and we also use normal sd card adapters on our OLDER cameras with a micro sd card, which, can also slip into any of our phones. maybe time to upgrade your camera? secondly, we wouldn't buy a pc with nvm only because nvm drives are garbage, high failure rate, limited life span, high data corruption...and if you've ever tried data recovery......also you could in a pinch use that micro sd card slot as a boot disk..... just my 2 cents. otherwise nice video and happy holidays!
Have to disagree with you about the micro-sd slot. Every Micro-SD card I have bought comes included with an SD adaptor so that you can use them in cameras like yours. it's not a hindrance at all using micro SD's in cameras like yours, unless you know something I am unaware of.
I find the tradeoff between an extra NVME vs SSD to be comparable; I don't tend to need it to be super speedy, just extra storage. Yes, I could use the NAS, but there's times I find an extra decent speed SSD to be more than satisfactory.
@STH can you please wipe down the NUC exterior with a dust cloth next time, seeing it put on a pedastal and rotating all covered in lint was triggering 😂 Also would have liked you to cover the expansion port and options provoded by Simply NUC/free market. Usually dont see that.
Personally I've got enough 2.5" drives that I was upset when my new-to-me-impulse-NUC didn't have one I was sad I only had the M2 drive. It's nice to have a second drive but m.2 is more expensive. Also m.2 takes more power than older SATA at rest. Still pennies but it matters for laptops and people running on off-the-grid setups.
What about this optional slot at the back below the IO? You haven‘t mentioned that one at all. I just purchased a few of those NUCs and they all have this slot but I‘m not sure what this is for…
VMware is pretty archaic. So they do not support heterogeneous cores like more modern OSes/ hypervisors. You will get a PSOD if you try to install vanilla ESXi 8. There is a workaround, but it is a pain.
Too bad no ECC memory support with this CPU I would like to see a NUC geared more towards a home server (increased cores, ecc memory, more M.2 storage, 10GB Ethernet, low idle power consumption etc)
Here is the crazy part. Raptor Lake still has not been released for the Xeon E server market. I am not kidding on that one. We have a server using Raptor Lake and we cannot review it due to the embargo
ECC with a BGA laptop CPU is just way too niche. You can get ECC with desktop CPUs using the W680 chipset, but there are very few board models, they're ITX or larger, and they're expensive. What you need is also what I want: a C3000 series successor. The C5000 series is way too expensive and power hungry. Edit: I forgot, AMD V3000 also exists, though there are very few systems currently using it.
The R5 on the table uses a CFExpress card as well, but we tend to use SD cards because they can be used in the C70 shooting the main camera footage for the video as well as the FX3 doing B-roll footage.
You do realize that Intel started putting microSD slots on their NUCs a few generations ago, right? In fact, that chassis was the one used by Intel a few generations ago so it looks like SimplyNUC is slapping their name on stuff Intel makes. Very confusing indeed.
Professional Photographers deserve a Xeon NUC with full size SD card readers on front and rear. Professional Musicians deserve NUCs with 1/4" audio jacks and CPU fans that reach 120 dB.
Is a 4x4 square a unique enough case design in the first place to be protected by IP law? It's not clear to me if there's any kind of unique feature Intel could cite which is big enough to build a case on. I doubt they would care to even if they could, since the point of getting the NUC design out there in the first place was to sell desktops with Intel mobile processors and Intel is just as happy to let board partners do that as to do it themselves. More so, now that they have abandoned making first-party NUCs.
I really don't see who will need this kind of configuration. Most people that will need this kind of memory capacity and computing power don't deserve this kind of form factor and limited expansion capability. For a small desktop/mini PC solution you can find much better solutions that can do 99.9% of the tasks that the mini pc users needs.
It looks like it has a PCIE slot on the back. If this is true, can a 10GB NIC be installed in it? Have you tried installing PFSense in it? If so from your experience, how well does it work? I know this is just an opinion, but that is okay with me.
that was my first thought as well, but judging from the look inside, this is too small, looks more like if you unscrew that little plate on the backside, you would just see the fan, maybe this is meant for better airflow?
Has any one ever built a low Power server or gaming pc from smartphone parts? IE a10 x 10 cm motherboard with m.2 nvme ports on the back of the pcb, built in wifi and blue tooth and a phone top of the line "graphics card" 16Gb (or more) ram all capable of running days on 4-8 18650 batteries? The whole box only being 4x4x2" ,just like a nuc, Powered by a 5v 2A phone charger. A home server with those specs should be able to run (headless) a week on batteriers alone drawing no more than a phone does in standby while at idle. I have never heard of a computer built like this, would there not be a market for a ultra portable gaming (phone games of cause) rig or server that can last a week in a power cut or for ever on a 20W solar panel? The screen could be a tablet screen powered via the signal cable from the internal battery. A Bt mouse and keyboard and you would be ready to go. Has nobody ever built such or similar machine? If so why not?
A bit silly because still powered by a power brick and not USB-C power adapter and also silly not having TBT4, especially as it is powered with an Intel CPU! A bit of a silly product.
Just having the ports labeled with their speed as a number is a nice feature that I wish all systems had.
I strongly agree with this.
If you sold little usb speed sticker labels I'd buy a sheet. 🤔@@ServeTheHomeVideo
Love the NUC!! Just upgraded the wifi card in my 10-yr-old NUC for $24. Good for another 10 yrs!!! 😉
Sweet!
7:55 One of the wifi antenna leads got pinched and damaged.
Either shoddy build from factory or user error😮
Minced by the thread of the case bolt? That's a hazardous cable routing choice from factory! 😬
He killed the Intel Killer...
I noticed that too.
I like the 2.5 inch drive holder. It can be modified easily into a U.2 drive holder, then you can install a 12.8TB enterprise drive in it, which is larger, more performant and more reliable than an M.2 client drive.
Can you share some details on the modification and drive used for this?
I would always want a 2.5" Sata slot if possible, just for extra storage options. Very cheap to add a 2.5" mechanical drive that you don't need to be high speed, and it's still a fair bit cheaper to buy a sata 4TB SSD than an M.2 NVMe SSD. And a huge difference if you step up to 8TB Sata vs NVMe.
I feel like 2.5 sata drives haven't gotten cheap for storage of 2TB and more. Or at least, I haven't been lucky enough to find some.
Those 2.m SMR are the reason forcing me to avoid those and get a SSD instead
SMR 2.5 is big no for me 😂
Baseline mx500
7:58 man they destroyed that wifi antenna when they screwed the case together
Urgent! Can you address in a new short video, or leave a pinned comment bellow this video about the WiFi cable (1 white) being almost destroyed with the corner screw...
You can see the damage in multiple spots for example here: 07:52
Wow that is pretty dumb...
2.5 inch expansion is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT in these little guys, given the lack of physical space on the board itself.
Hey Simply NUC, Please consider a model heavily aimed towards the home lab, some extra 2.5G ports and perhaps a rack mount accessory
That would be something reviewed by Serve The Home or Lawrence Systems. One such example is made by Super Micro but its also super expensive, averaging about 900 dollars.
@STH
I really like your reviews, especially as I am currently looking to find the perfect power efficient mini server (network + nvr).
Do you plan on also including some AI benchmarks in the future? Both Intel and AMD are promoting their NPUs and I for example am looking for a small but efficient unit which provides the best acceleration for object detection. It may sound like a niche but honestly for modern NVR scenarios these units are actually a viable option.
I'm looking forward for a Ryzen 80x0 vs Meteor-Lake! But then again, you should have at least one or two tests to show the difference in the NPUs of those Units.
Keep on your good work!
We will, likely next year.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo
That's great to hear!
7:55 The silicon for the AX1675x is the same as the AX210 as far as I'm aware, the special PCI device ID just gets you access to the Killer software utilities.
The wifi card even listed AX210 as the Intel part number on the sticker below the AX1675x part number.
Intel NUCs are great little hardware devices. What they never got correct was support with crazy hoops to jump through for repair/replacement. Hopefully ASUS will correct the support issue.
There actually are adapters to go from a micro SD slot to a full SD slot, they're just not as common and compact as the other way around. For me, personally, I see these mini PCs as proxmox hosts, and wouldn't use an SD card slot at all.
About the small 256GB m.2, I'd prefer they offer barebones options instead. There is an option to go up to larger capacities, but no option to exclude it.
Are these Intel NUCs, or are they off-brand? I was under the impression that this company was just an Intel NUC retailer, but this looks like their own custom hardware?
I think they started as a reseller, but Intel got out of the NUC business with the 12th Gen this summer.
Same here, I would have bought this as a barebone kit, but being a US-based company I can understand why they don't want to sell such a thing and have to support people who don't know any better and are trying to boot a machine with no Ram or storage... or the goofballs who tried to save a buck but don't know what they're doing.
I think Intel was trying to do to much with the NUCs. Just being a simply mini PC didn't seem to be enough for them.
And that Wifi cable is chewed up.
I like the SATA drive option in this, but I do wish they would use a better solution for the connection that used pogo pins instead of a delicate ribbon cable.
My SER5 64gb works like champ for 2 years now,I saw it first,on STH❤
Sweet!
interestingly the unit supports 96gb but is not an option instore, so you supply it yourself and still have to order the NUC with a 8gb stick. no option to say no RAM.
Dual m.2 and one with a occulink adapter should be standard on all midrange to high end mini pcs.
Err 5:53 & 7:58, looks like the wireless coax got trapped, top right.
Regarding 2.5" SATA: 8TB SATA SSDs are less than half the price of NVME, and great for quick retrieval & syncing of geo redundant NAS.
Is it not time for a TOP 10 :) :) would be great! Categories: HTPC, Gaming, Storage, Firewall, Docker, Arcade, IOT... etc
I recently upgraded my two 256GB NVME drives on my daily-driver PC to two 1TB NVME drives... I have no clue why I purchased those 256GB drives and now I don't know what to do with them because I have nothing I would use with less than 1TB at this point..
I wish you would standardize your product shots with the power brick in the shot. The power brick needs to be considered as part of the form factor.
Me too. When we moved to AZ Bryan is no longer doing photos/ B-Roll. The transition has a few dropped areas
Did I go to the wrong website for this thing? Cuz if not and they're actually asking a thousand bucks for the i9-13900H model, I would expect a lot better than the 8GB DDR5 and 256GB NVME SSD they ship it with.
We discussed pricing heavily in the Key Lessons Learned section
We've a fleet of 100,000 corporate laptops with 256GB as standard and it's fine. Work machines don't really need much for the general user.
I had a corporate laptop at PwC when I was doing management consulting 10 years ago with 256GB and I was filling it up.
If you want to run proxmox with zfs then it can ruin a consumer grade SSD or NVME easily in a year. But with proxmox running on a cheap micron/intel server grade 2.5" ssd from ebay you don't need to worry about SSD wear and you can still use NVME ssd for any other stuff.
That SATA 2.5 conector looks AWESOME to me, it is ideal for transfering old lasptops data off,
Hi Patrick! Exactly like you said, those USB 2.0 ports are still really valuable for keyboard and mouse receivers. USB 3.0 can often interfere with 2.4ghz RF at close range. Ideally, you'd even put a little hub on the port to get the receiver away from the other USB 3.0. It was a whole thing back in the day when I was in client tech support and USB docks first started being a thing.
For the SD card slot, I 100% agree it would have been better as full size. Do you think they were thinking of imaging Raspberry Pi and other SBC systems? Even then I'd argue for SDcard, since the micro SD almost always comes with an adapter anyway.
Oh - I've always been wondering, which part exactly is interfering? The chip itself, the protocol, something in the hub too? Like, can you just use a USB 2.0 hub/cable to bypass that issue? Or is a 3.0 hub okay too, as long as it's away from the port?
@@Lishtenbird I'm not sure. It seems like it is less of a problem than it used to be. There is a 2012 intel document on the problem that says that within 3ft of the usb3.0 is bad, and a 2021 nsf paper on it still being a problem on usb-c.
www.usb.org/sites/default/files/327216.pdf
par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10213255
Once I saw that it has a microSD card slot, the HDMI ports, and the 2.5" SATA port it was clear that this is a corporate PC, through and through, although the i9 option definitely seems like it would have limited use with the target audience (perhaps it's there for the margins?). I really do like this thing's design for corporate use though, and while Patrick's suggestions would be great for enthusiast use, this thing checks all the boxes for corporate desk work and cheap terminals mounted behind cheap monitors.
@@Lishtenbird The USB 3 design itself leads to the interference on the 2.4GHz band. The reference frequency for the USB data lines is 2.5GHz and that's close enough to cause interference with 2.4GHz radios. I ran into this the other day when I was setting up a new computer with a Logitech wireless mouse dongle plugged in next to a USB 3 port I was using to copy data from an external SSD. The interference caused the mouse cursor to stutter. I'm not sure if a USB 3 hub would have the same problems, but simply moving the keyboard/mouse receiver to a port in another location on the machine or using an extension cable to move the receiver farther away will help.
Just some feedback on the gripes. It's easy to say you want an SD card slot and I agree that is way better than just a Micro however then 2 mins later you can't just blow off not having native display and saying it's fine just get an adaptor. An adaptor would solve both of these problems so it can't be ok for one and not the other.
I also shoot on lots of equipment that have full size SD... I just use the adapter that comes with the micro SD card. There's no reason you can't do the same and probably get a drastic increase in performance with some of the current micro SD offerings.
I put a 2.5” SATA SSD in these minis and use them to back up the system.
Is there any reason why the expansion panel on the back wasn't even discussed? You can put a module here that has another 2.5 Ethernet port and another 2 USB ports.
7:31 Ouch that Wifi antenna cable is messed up!
If your data is all stored on your network, you shouldn’t need too much ssd capacity. Maybe it’s 256 to provide a cheaper option for these setups. Especially with company computers or even school computers, this should be enough. Need more ram though.
what's the purpose of that little plate on the back that can be unscrewed?
I hope they keep doing it. The intel nooks were high quality
Wrt microSD, currently you could easily put a microSD in to an adapter and put that in the camera.
I love that they labeled the screw size 😭
There is something wrong with the wifi antenna, twisted round the mounting screw … I think??
Having ports that are not USB 3.2 or 4.0 compliant is a waste of space but I do like the NUC format.
Hope intel's 15th gen get rid of the mixed cores.
@07:31 uuuuuf that totally crushed wifi/bt antenna cable at top left needs to be swapped.. .that's a horrible location for it. was it like that from the factory?
What is that removable plate on the back (with two screws either side) for?
I concurre and say that a 2.5" bay is more efficient. BEcause we all have some olf 2.5" SSD laying around. And note having to buy something new and additionally not having something laying arounf with no use is the most efficient thing.
so many decisions made that seem weird to me, hopefully they know what their customers want
Good feedback
8tb nvme is a whole lot more expensive than 8tb 2.5 sata ssd. 2.5" drive bays are always welcome, and two of them would enable redundancy raid in case i want a tiny micro nas.
the one thing that i will agree with you on is that these are not made for the everyday home user. but to your 2 downsides (the sd card slot and the hdd bay), as a corporate user i'd say this....first off, most if not all camera's today can plug into the usb slot of the machine and is what we use with all our cameras. and we also use normal sd card adapters on our OLDER cameras with a micro sd card, which, can also slip into any of our phones. maybe time to upgrade your camera? secondly, we wouldn't buy a pc with nvm only because nvm drives are garbage, high failure rate, limited life span, high data corruption...and if you've ever tried data recovery......also you could in a pinch use that micro sd card slot as a boot disk..... just my 2 cents. otherwise nice video and happy holidays!
Have to disagree with you about the micro-sd slot. Every Micro-SD card I have bought comes included with an SD adaptor so that you can use them in cameras like yours. it's not a hindrance at all using micro SD's in cameras like yours, unless you know something I am unaware of.
V90 constant speeds for 8K recording pretty much has to be done in full SD since 512GB V90 microSD cards are basically a no-go.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks for explaining.
7:31 wifi antenna cable top left corner is messed up by the opening screws.
I find the tradeoff between an extra NVME vs SSD to be comparable; I don't tend to need it to be super speedy, just extra storage. Yes, I could use the NAS, but there's times I find an extra decent speed SSD to be more than satisfactory.
Why just don't use MicroSD in your DSLR with adapter, so you can put this card in both Micro or regular SD port with this adapter.
V90 512GB microSD are not easy to find.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo you really write 1 video such size, so you can't use 2x256 cards?
@@ServeTheHomeVideo also I think nowadays when smartphones has 1tb storage - why don't put same ufs3 to cameras?
@STH can you please wipe down the NUC exterior with a dust cloth next time, seeing it put on a pedastal and rotating all covered in lint was triggering 😂
Also would have liked you to cover the expansion port and options provoded by Simply NUC/free market. Usually dont see that.
Bryan is not doing the B-roll anymore :-(
@@ServeTheHomeVideo ah too bad :(
14:25 "unless... blah blah blah" WTF are you saying man? 😂😂
which mac mini model you have in your back side at 9:41 ?
Good question. It is either a 10Gbase-T M1 or M2 Mac Mini. There had been a cluster there but several of the units were already boxed up.
Great content. Thank you. What mini pc would you recommend for music production, ie cuebase etc.
I wish my 6i7kyk had a socketed wifi card..
Personally I've got enough 2.5" drives that I was upset when my new-to-me-impulse-NUC didn't have one I was sad I only had the M2 drive. It's nice to have a second drive but m.2 is more expensive. Also m.2 takes more power than older SATA at rest. Still pennies but it matters for laptops and people running on off-the-grid setups.
is it me or at 7:29 in the upper left, the antenna cable looks like it got crushed and mauled... oops
🤔
Is it me or is the white wifi antenna lead pinched & compromised?
2.5 SSD drives are very popular
If it would have at least a 10+Gbit Ethernet or SFP+ or QSFP NIC, I would buy it. 2.5 Gbit is completely outdatet in the range of power users.
7:55 One of the wifi antenna leads got pinched and damaged
Ayyyyy. Also home to Round Rock Donuts
I am still more of a Voodoo donuts person :-)
What about this optional slot at the back below the IO? You haven‘t mentioned that one at all. I just purchased a few of those NUCs and they all have this slot but I‘m not sure what this is for…
Is this good for a home theatre 7.1 surround sound .
Is it just me or is the grey wifi cable @7:30 a bit trashed... Bad screwhole design?
$999 for 256 GB and 8GB RAM - Who do they think they are ? Apple ? 🤣🤑
take a drink every time he says "ok, so"
Patrick Can I use Vmware 7.03 on this will Nics be recongized
Get something with all P cores instead of this
Instead of a 2.5" space, give a small lower powered dedicated GPU (like a laptop GPU). That would open up so many more uses for these.
What happened to the Wi-Fi AUX cable? Was it damaged by the screw?
7:52 Did you break the wireless antenna or was it broken from factory?
Can you explain what the problem with P/E cores and ESXi? That's exactly what im looking for, a mini PC with ESXi. I don't want to make any mistakes.
VMware is pretty archaic. So they do not support heterogeneous cores like more modern OSes/ hypervisors. You will get a PSOD if you try to install vanilla ESXi 8. There is a workaround, but it is a pain.
@@ServeTheHomeVideoWould you recommend going with ProxMox instead?
Who designed the motherboard? Is it by Simply NUC themselves or do they buy it elsewhere? The motherboard seems very standard Intel design
Too bad no ECC memory support with this CPU
I would like to see a NUC geared more towards a home server (increased cores, ecc memory, more M.2 storage, 10GB Ethernet, low idle power consumption etc)
Here is the crazy part. Raptor Lake still has not been released for the Xeon E server market. I am not kidding on that one. We have a server using Raptor Lake and we cannot review it due to the embargo
ECC with a BGA laptop CPU is just way too niche. You can get ECC with desktop CPUs using the W680 chipset, but there are very few board models, they're ITX or larger, and they're expensive. What you need is also what I want: a C3000 series successor. The C5000 series is way too expensive and power hungry.
Edit: I forgot, AMD V3000 also exists, though there are very few systems currently using it.
how are you going to power the tiny mini micro? how many nodes?
The micro SD card is for a system drive, not a camera silly...
What is the expansion cover looking thing at the back with the two screws on either side of it?
yea 1k cost not seeing the value point, unless size matters..cool though
Valid point
Offered configuration for the price is expensive.
did anyone notice the crushed white wifi antenna cable in the pc !
I guess YOU didn't take the time to read anyone's comment before posting .... 😅🤣🤣😂😛
MY Canon SLR camera uses a CF card--not an SD card!!
The R5 on the table uses a CFExpress card as well, but we tend to use SD cards because they can be used in the C70 shooting the main camera footage for the video as well as the FX3 doing B-roll footage.
Is there supposed to be a link to the product in the comments?, maybe I'm going blind. I only see memory/ssd
Can some help me with a Modern CPU that will work with 7.03 vmware and motherboard , I bought a 14900k will not work purple screens not compatiable.
That is because it has P and E cores. VMware is very archaic so it does not support heterogenous cores
You do realize that Intel started putting microSD slots on their NUCs a few generations ago, right? In fact, that chassis was the one used by Intel a few generations ago so it looks like SimplyNUC is slapping their name on stuff Intel makes. Very confusing indeed.
Was there any issues with proxmox and that 2.5gb interface?
Professional Photographers deserve a Xeon NUC with full size SD card readers on front and rear.
Professional Musicians deserve NUCs with 1/4" audio jacks and CPU fans that reach 120 dB.
I hate that they have an external power supply, otherwise I'd consider buying one again.
Yea. I am medium on it. Sometimes it is nice to hide and easy to replace, but it is a pain to have the extra brick
The fact they still use sd over micro sd is hilarious. Its the same thing. Micro is only smaller and uses less space.
Not 100% sure at this point. I cannot buy a V90 512GB SD card which is what the A-cam and photos used.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I mean these days. And an adapter can convert for older cams. I know some cameras limit it, which is a shame.
The case looks exactly like the Intel NUCs. Is that design aesthetic not protected by Intel IP? Did Simply NUC acquire the rights to the case designs?
Is a 4x4 square a unique enough case design in the first place to be protected by IP law? It's not clear to me if there's any kind of unique feature Intel could cite which is big enough to build a case on.
I doubt they would care to even if they could, since the point of getting the NUC design out there in the first place was to sell desktops with Intel mobile processors and Intel is just as happy to let board partners do that as to do it themselves. More so, now that they have abandoned making first-party NUCs.
Just comparable to an AMD 7940HS with a 35w tdp.
My rack is starting to become a shrine to dead Intel kit... Intel switch, Intel server, Intel Nuc...
I really don't see who will need this kind of configuration.
Most people that will need this kind of memory capacity and computing power don't deserve this kind of form factor and limited expansion capability.
For a small desktop/mini PC solution you can find much better solutions that can do 99.9% of the tasks that the mini pc users needs.
NUC IS BACK FOR ONE REASON MARCHES NEW RELEASE OLDER TECH IS ABOUT THE UNEDUCATED
It looks like it has a PCIE slot on the back. If this is true, can a 10GB NIC be installed in it? Have you tried installing PFSense in it? If so from your experience, how well does it work? I know this is just an opinion, but that is okay with me.
that was my first thought as well, but judging from the look inside, this is too small, looks more like if you unscrew that little plate on the backside, you would just see the fan, maybe this is meant for better airflow?
That makes sense, considering the CPU it’s using.
These are nice, but simply too expensive for what they are.
Too expensive compared to Ryzen minis. They need to be more competitive if they want to survive.
serious?? Why using 2.5" SSD drive??? old technology, lower density and cheaper NVMe option.... done
How well does it transcode?
12th gen QSV on my desktop processor will decode VP9 content fine for me.
this is 4k vp9 content btw, nothing to scoff at.
13th Gen transcode is awesome and many things are built to use Intel Quick Sync.
Has any one ever built a low Power server or gaming pc from smartphone parts? IE a10 x 10 cm motherboard with m.2 nvme ports on the back of the pcb, built in wifi and blue tooth and a phone top of the line "graphics card" 16Gb (or more) ram all capable of running days on 4-8 18650 batteries? The whole box only being 4x4x2" ,just like a nuc, Powered by a 5v 2A phone charger. A home server with those specs should be able to run (headless) a week on batteriers alone drawing no more than a phone does in standby while at idle. I have never heard of a computer built like this, would there not be a market for a ultra portable gaming (phone games of cause) rig or server that can last a week in a power cut or for ever on a 20W solar panel? The screen could be a tablet screen powered via the signal cable from the internal battery. A Bt mouse and keyboard and you would be ready to go. Has nobody ever built such or similar machine? If so why not?
A bit silly because still powered by a power brick and not USB-C power adapter and also silly not having TBT4, especially as it is powered with an Intel CPU! A bit of a silly product.