Good overall presentation and observations, with which I generally agree. However, here’s an additional point, which may be important. Jeff accurately states the outer garment should extend about an inch below that bottom of the holster. While an inch (or so) is probably fine when you’re standing straight upright with your arms at your sides, it probably won’t be when one or both arms are extending upward (for example, when accessing the top shelf in a grocery store or when putting your briefcase or purse on the top shelf in your neighbor’s coat closet). Therefore, I suggest the outer garment’s margin (below the holster’s bottom) be measured with the strong-side hand reaching upwards and outward (rather than at one’s side). The goal here is simply to prevent the anti-firearms and nervous soccer mommy from yelling, “help, he has a gun!!” when you’re reaching for the last box of Cheerios at the very back of the top shelf in a Safeway.
Agreed. I tend towards a "tall" and one size larger than I am, in other words, a 2X tall shirt rather than an extra large regular. But I am tall anyway so it works out OK.
this is a very good point. too many people focus on what looks hidden while standing comfortably. In reality the challenges of concealed carry come in while reaching up, bending or leaning over, or seated.
@@regularguy1140 yes, I draw my weapon often. Don’t you? Perfect practice makes perfect. Are you one of those people who believes that when it matters the most, they will draw flawlessly with zero practice? You never practice draws?
Strongside at about the 3:30 position works for me. Being a bigger guy, I can carry anything from a SIG 365 to a 5" 1911 and not print overtly. Favorite holsters are from 1791 for OWB.
I pocket carry in my right side/strong side, I’m 6’2” old,fat cranky, and recently had to practice my draw for real. Was seated behind the steering wheel,belted in,had my pistol in my hand before I thought about it,as I was identifying the threat. I believe the key was practice in the car. It felt silly at first but payed off with a possible violent encounter turned peaceful upon the thug seeing the pistol. Remember,your personal security is your responsibility! Practice peace but prepare for war!
I agree. When I first started carrying, I carried around 4 o'clock IWB and it worked well. It was comfortable, I was able to conceal it easy enough. I tried appendix but couldn't get it to work for me. I had trouble concealing and making it comfortable, so I had given up on it. That was until one day I decided to really try it and buy a dedicated holster for it, if it didn't work this time then I knew it just wasn't for me. Holster came and blew me away (T1C Axis Elite) and the gun disappeared. It was comfortable enough that I could spend the week or so getting used to it and now I barely even notice it. I carry a Shadow Systems MR920 Elite with a TLR-1 HL, a Sig p365XL, a Shield Plus and an M&P 2.0 9mm compact, and they all work so well I can't even imagine carrying any other way now. I tried carrying 4 o'clock IWB again a few times and it was uncomfortable, really surprised me when before it had been very comfortable. If I can make appendix carry work, anyone can. Get a dedicated appendix holster from a good company, use a wedge and a claw, it can be done. I was using a Vedder Light Tuck for 4 o'clock IWB, and I tried using the Vedder for appendix and as said above, couldn't get it to work. The difference between a dedicated appendix rig and the Vedder is night and day.
I carry on my strong side with my pancake style OWB 95% and IWB 5% of the time. This works best for me after buying and trying other types of holsters. I agree the light material for the shirt make your firearm easier to print but the type of color can either make it more or less noticeable. Another great video Jeff. Thanks
I carry strong side but inside the waist band in a black arch protos-m. Took me a while to find this combo but it's the most comfortable for me, and your shirt doesn't have to reach your knees to conceal a full size
I used to carry at 4 o’clock I.W.B... But recently bought a O.W.B. for my 1911.. and started carrying anywhere from 3:00 to 3:30... I have come to like it soo much better I literally just bought another O.W.B. for my 9mm too. SOOOOO MUCH BETTER !
@@donaldwood7968 hmm interesting. I obviously don't know your anatomy but my elbow is pointed towards my passengers seat when I draw. When you sit in a car with appendix you kind of change the angle of the holster and gun. It's hard to explain over UA-cam lol.
OWB 2:30 works great for sitting in a car as long as you don't tuck your shirt in. I slide my shirt between my body and the gun when I get in the car. I have full access to the gun while seated.
But where do you put your sharpe? That’s what I want to know, because the sharpie is the most deadly self defense weapon. That’s why I would throw my gun in the trash before I ever would my sharpie. Because, you know, I could poke somebody in the belly button with that and make them giggle. What exactly am I gonna do with a gun? They probably won’t laugh if I point a gun at them, so what’s the point… Not a sharpie point anyway.
@@CalebSavant The Ruger .380 I tried still made a pretty obvious imprint with the ankle holster. I even tried switching to cowboy boots although so far that's been a no go. I can look into the shoulder carry. We wear a jacket and tie every day but not all day.
You can look at the various belly band and wear it under the dress shirt. I am not a fan of shoulder holster because it is not comfortable and when you draw, you have to hold the holster. I am also not a fan of ankle because you would have to choose a small firearm and wear a pant that is loose fitting on the leg. The drawback with ankle holster is you have to kneel down whereas a holster on the hip is more faster to draw. I would most likely wear a sports jacket and leave it on the hip. If you know anyone with these type of holsters, see if you can try them out and draw (unloaded firearm of course) from each of these holsters and positions to get the feel. For me, I like the holster on the hip OWB and IWB which is more secure and faster to draw. Good luck in choosing which works for you.
@@BT1776 I have a belly band that is ok and might be an option. I've considered having two shirt buttons replaced with magnets so I could more easily reach in. The belly band smooths out the profile of the gun fairly well as long as you're carrying something like that Ruger .380.
The near constant body movement is a sign of a lack of confidence, generally. Stand still and talk like you mean it. I didn't even make it to the one minute mark.
The use of a floyd rose is a sign of lack of skill and technique. Bend your fingers and vibrato like you mean it. I didn’t even make it to the one minute mark.
@@SlingsAxes A tremolo bar on a Floyd can both drop or raise the pitch unless it's blocked; Stop making yourself look like an idiot, you're not proving anything. Not to mention the guy was making a joke, your profile pic doesn't even have a Floyd on it.
Good overall presentation and observations, with which I generally agree.
However, here’s an additional point, which may be important. Jeff accurately states the outer garment should extend about an inch below that bottom of the holster. While an inch (or so) is probably fine when you’re standing straight upright with your arms at your sides, it probably won’t be when one or both arms are extending upward (for example, when accessing the top shelf in a grocery store or when putting your briefcase or purse on the top shelf in your neighbor’s coat closet). Therefore, I suggest the outer garment’s margin (below the holster’s bottom) be measured with the strong-side hand reaching upwards and outward (rather than at one’s side).
The goal here is simply to prevent the anti-firearms and nervous soccer mommy from yelling, “help, he has a gun!!” when you’re reaching for the last box of Cheerios at the very back of the top shelf in a Safeway.
Agreed. I tend towards a "tall" and one size larger than I am, in other words, a 2X tall shirt rather than an extra large regular. But I am tall anyway so it works out OK.
this is a very good point. too many people focus on what looks hidden while standing comfortably. In reality the challenges of concealed carry come in while reaching up, bending or leaning over, or seated.
appendix position is a scam by anorexic people who insist on carrying a full size doublestack gun
That's why my wife does the shopping! 😅... sorry had to
I found this video quite informative. Clearly articulated your points.👍
I carry strong side or appendix. The older I get, the more I prefer appendix. It’s easier on my shoulder.
You have to draw your weapon that often?
@@regularguy1140 yes, I draw my weapon often. Don’t you? Perfect practice makes perfect. Are you one of those people who believes that when it matters the most, they will draw flawlessly with zero practice? You never practice draws?
Strongside at about the 3:30 position works for me. Being a bigger guy, I can carry anything from a SIG 365 to a 5" 1911 and not print overtly. Favorite holsters are from 1791 for OWB.
I pocket carry in my right side/strong side, I’m 6’2” old,fat cranky, and recently had to practice my draw for real. Was seated behind the steering wheel,belted in,had my pistol in my hand before I thought about it,as I was identifying the threat. I believe the key was practice in the car. It felt silly at first but payed off with a possible violent encounter turned peaceful upon the thug seeing the pistol. Remember,your personal security is your responsibility! Practice peace but prepare for war!
In my opinion, appendix carry is the best option for the majority of people. But, the look of it turns people off who haven't experienced it yet.
I agree. When I first started carrying, I carried around 4 o'clock IWB and it worked well. It was comfortable, I was able to conceal it easy enough. I tried appendix but couldn't get it to work for me. I had trouble concealing and making it comfortable, so I had given up on it. That was until one day I decided to really try it and buy a dedicated holster for it, if it didn't work this time then I knew it just wasn't for me. Holster came and blew me away (T1C Axis Elite) and the gun disappeared. It was comfortable enough that I could spend the week or so getting used to it and now I barely even notice it. I carry a Shadow Systems MR920 Elite with a TLR-1 HL, a Sig p365XL, a Shield Plus and an M&P 2.0 9mm compact, and they all work so well I can't even imagine carrying any other way now. I tried carrying 4 o'clock IWB again a few times and it was uncomfortable, really surprised me when before it had been very comfortable.
If I can make appendix carry work, anyone can. Get a dedicated appendix holster from a good company, use a wedge and a claw, it can be done. I was using a Vedder Light Tuck for 4 o'clock IWB, and I tried using the Vedder for appendix and as said above, couldn't get it to work. The difference between a dedicated appendix rig and the Vedder is night and day.
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I carry on my strong side with my pancake style OWB 95% and IWB 5% of the time. This works best for me after buying and trying other types of holsters. I agree the light material for the shirt make your firearm easier to print but the type of color can either make it more or less noticeable. Another great video Jeff. Thanks
I carry strong side but inside the waist band in a black arch protos-m. Took me a while to find this combo but it's the most comfortable for me, and your shirt doesn't have to reach your knees to conceal a full size
I like to carry mine at about the 3:30 position.
Strong side iwb and owb is my thing although I just ord cross draw to give it a try !! Thanks for the vid 😀😀
Very nice video... Thanks !!! ✌️
It depends on belt body built. Appendix is faster, I carry IWB in ever 430 or appendix and I carry a full size gun with a 18 and 20 round magazines
Great tips !
Inside the waistband strong side? Best choice.
I was doing that for years but it started to make my hip hurt.
Trying to figure which is better for me..
What holster are you wearing in the video sir?
I used to carry at 4 o’clock I.W.B... But recently bought a O.W.B. for my 1911.. and started carrying anywhere from 3:00 to 3:30... I have come to like it soo much better I literally just bought another O.W.B. for my 9mm too. SOOOOO MUCH BETTER !
What holster make/brand is that he is wearing @ 3:48 mark? Looks like a leather OWB.
I will most likely need a gun while sitting in my pickup. the only way I can reasonably reach it is crossdraw.
Negative, learn appendix
@@l337l0gan my elbow hits the seatback.
@@donaldwood7968 hmm interesting. I obviously don't know your anatomy but my elbow is pointed towards my passengers seat when I draw. When you sit in a car with appendix you kind of change the angle of the holster and gun. It's hard to explain over UA-cam lol.
OWB 2:30 works great for sitting in a car as long as you don't tuck your shirt in. I slide my shirt between my body and the gun when I get in the car. I have full access to the gun while seated.
Not concealing well is a pretty huge flaw, given we're talking about concealed carry
2 o'clock to 2:30
Strongside owb everyday for me. Of course I dress appropriately. I just can't do IWB.
What about cross draw
It is hard to carry in Florida
What belt and holster is that?
That belt i think is an Ares gear belt.
Apendix 👍
But where do you put your sharpe? That’s what I want to know, because the sharpie is the most deadly self defense weapon. That’s why I would throw my gun in the trash before I ever would my sharpie. Because, you know, I could poke somebody in the belly button with that and make them giggle. What exactly am I gonna do with a gun? They probably won’t laugh if I point a gun at them, so what’s the point… Not a sharpie point anyway.
Why did you write this?
Sean Olaf Because the guy in the video said in a previous video how a sharpie is an alternative weapon if you’re seated while carrying a firearm.
What's a good option for someone who can't wear baggy jeans and an untucked shirt to work?
Ankle carry is a good option there, if you wear a sport coat or other attire shoulder carry is a valid option as well.
@@CalebSavant The Ruger .380 I tried still made a pretty obvious imprint with the ankle holster. I even tried switching to cowboy boots although so far that's been a no go. I can look into the shoulder carry. We wear a jacket and tie every day but not all day.
You can look at the various belly band and wear it under the dress shirt. I am not a fan of shoulder holster because it is not comfortable and when you draw, you have to hold the holster. I am also not a fan of ankle because you would have to choose a small firearm and wear a pant that is loose fitting on the leg. The drawback with ankle holster is you have to kneel down whereas a holster on the hip is more faster to draw. I would most likely wear a sports jacket and leave it on the hip. If you know anyone with these type of holsters, see if you can try them out and draw (unloaded firearm of course) from each of these holsters and positions to get the feel. For me, I like the holster on the hip OWB and IWB which is more secure and faster to draw. Good luck in choosing which works for you.
@@BT1776 I have a belly band that is ok and might be an option. I've considered having two shirt buttons replaced with magnets so I could more easily reach in. The belly band smooths out the profile of the gun fairly well as long as you're carrying something like that Ruger .380.
If you wear a sport coat/suit jacket you're golden
Just one small nit pick, 3:00 is only the "strong side carry" position for right handed shooters.
Right arm cross draw,very comfortable
Why is it that most of the times, people carrying concealed dress like hell in order to conceal the weapon?
Strong side open carry is even better.
The near constant body movement is a sign of a lack of confidence, generally. Stand still and talk like you mean it. I didn't even make it to the one minute mark.
The use of a floyd rose is a sign of lack of skill and technique. Bend your fingers and vibrato like you mean it. I didn’t even make it to the one minute mark.
@@wellfuckyoumr it's just a picture, not my axe. Besides, a whammy bar drops the pitch; a bend increases it.
@@SlingsAxes A tremolo bar on a Floyd can both drop or raise the pitch unless it's blocked; Stop making yourself look like an idiot, you're not proving anything. Not to mention the guy was making a joke, your profile pic doesn't even have a Floyd on it.
So now we know that you’re a stiff robot who can’t express himself or gesture.
His body language doesn't communicate lack of confidence to me. I see it as more engaging and animated to keep the attention of the viewer.
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Are those Michelin Man pants ?
Outside the waistband, sure it’s great. Inside the waistband, forget it.