I really enjoyed watching this. After a long break, I decided it was time to open the shipyard again. I've watched a lot of videos to help resurrect some old skills, and for some reason yours made me think, "Yeah, that's the way I want to do it." Thanks again for taking the time.
Hi, I will be continuing the planking soon, Im almost finished the Belem kit, I found working on two models was slightly distracting. Sorry for the delay.
Yes please show more on planking. I found out through watching this that there are ways, I would rather do it this way I have a bender and gonna make the other rig (knew nothing about) So I can bend in the other direction I have a chamfer and thanks to you I am enabled to use them all correctly as I am about to start planking and you filled in a lot of blanks. Thank you
@@g-kip you are most helpful. I am in the same track as you I got 2 HMS Victory kits to do. One smaller. I’m doing a comfortable schooner to get warmed in. I’m a model builder of aircraft and dioramas like trenches etc. Haven’t posted footage yet new channel. But I decided I want to do something boat wise for my inner child. As an 80’s baby from E london. These kits were simply… too audacious as a dream I’m afraid. But I’m not a kid anymore hahaha. Yeah massively helping. I will be present and correct looking forward to your channel as I say doing it and doing it this way will be for me I think. Thank you as well because the gentlemen I grew up with if your dad didn’t know you wasn’t getting helped.
Hi Kevin, I'm glad you have found the videos useful, Its a great hobby to get into, relaxing, with a great sense of achievement when you complete things. Couple of tips, dont rush to complete things, if your struggling to do something stop, dont be afraid to ask others, there are a number of great forums, and content creators on youtube who are always willing to offer help and advice, lastly dont be afraid to change things, kit instructions are a guide, not always accurate, main thing is to have fun.
great clear photos & explanation of plank preparation . can you make a video showing the right way the planks are laid on the bottom of the frame & how they transition over the keel ? THANKS George
Hi George im in the process of doing more planking videos, first one will be out on Saturday, it covers the prep side but the planking will be following, a bit more in depth this time.
@@g-kip Thank you very much. Look forward to you completing a ship with all the techniques and possible pitfalls highlighted. Hope I’m not expecting too much but I am keen to learn as I’m completely new to wooden ship modelling but, very keen to learn. I find your style very interesting and easy to follow.
I would love to see a continuation of this planking. I'll be keeping an eye on your channel for more videos. I'm 2/3rds of the way done with my 1st ship so am new to the hobby. Do you have a video where you explain the reason for (and how to place) the strips of wood that jut out from under the deck at the beginning of Part 1? The strips that you butt the top edge of the first plank onto, that is. So kind of you to make these videos. Thank you.
Hi Dakota, I will shortly be planking the hull of the Santisima Trinidad, with regards the pieces of wood jutting out below the deck of the Marie Jeanne, the model instructions specified that the bottom of first plank be level with the bottom of the deck, I used them purely as a guide, to make placement of the plank easier. (cheating), with regards planking the position of the first plank is dependant upon the kit and style of the ship, generally kit instructions are ok for the first step, general rule if the plank sits naturally ie not needing to be forced into position, and looks to be running the correct line of the hull you should be ok. Where kit instructions tend to be wrong is the lower half of the hull, with funny shaping ie triangular shaped wedges at both stern and bow, thin slivers of wood to fill in gaps etc this would never have been the case, a hull plank should never be cut more than half its width. if you measure and mark out the hull and taper the planks where needed this shouldn't happen, hope this helps.
@@g-kip Thank you so much for that info. I will work through your videos before bothering you with additional questions which you may have already answered. I'd really like to focus on first planking next build and have purchased a beginners kit (occre albatros) to practice. My first planking on current build is a mess and has funny shaped pieces everywhere. Same with the 2nd planking. Your method looks like one I'll feel confident adopting. I look forward to watching you plank the Santisima Trinidad. Thanks again for taking so much time to share your knowledge and experience.
Hi Dakota, no worries, its a great idea to start with a smaller beginner ship, so many people jump straight into the advanced kits and never complete them (myself included, I started with HMS Victory, some ten years ago, made such a mess of it and wasted £100's of pounds, I never touched another kit for about 5 years). Im always happy to answer (to best of my ability), or point you in the right direction if you have any questions or queries, so dont worry its no bother.
Aaah, I wish I found your video earlier. I started 3 months ago buidking my first ship model and the planking was torment. Lol. I passed that part kinda succesfully. But after watching how you approached yours, I am definitely going to do so for my next ship build!
Hi John, there is a lack of instructions when it comes to planking, Im glad you found the video useful, this is one of the easiest methods that i have come across, yes there is more work involved ie marking and measuring but i think the results are better more true to the ways of old, though planks would have been cut to follow the lines of the hull, not straight bits of timber that we get in kits lol, what kit are you building?
@g-kip I'm building the Spanish San Juan Nepomuceno from Artesania Latina. I have watch other pros build this ship and they mentioned it is a beautiful ship but very hard. Being my first I certainly choose a good one. Lol
@g-kip To add to this, I have completed the planking after challenges and have now finished the second plank layer on one side. Working on the gun ports on the port side and then, plank the thin second layer. Loving the journey so far!
@@johnmerchan5103 nothing like starting simple lol, its a great hobbie to get into, the community is usually pretty helpful if you ever need help etc, a good forum to use is ships of scale.
I was also wondering why you only planked till section 5 instead of continuing to the end. Would it happen to be because there is inner layer and outer layer of planks on the particular model you are showing? I'm curious as I have a cheap starter kit that only has one layer of planks and was thinking of just planking from front to back as I was planning on using filler for the gaps, sanding and then painting the hull. Great video though. Was helpful with how you measured where the planks would go.
Hi, straight after heating and bending the plank, the plank remains reasonable plyable for a while, if its a minor over bending you can usually correct it when placing the plank, you can reverse the plank and attempt to reshape, but care would need to be taken, slowely and not applying too much pressure, I will try and demonstrate in my next video if i have time.
Thank you so much for these two videos, they have helped a lot. One question I have is why the plank you lay in this video only goes up to the 5th rib? is this because it is the halfway point of all measured ribs or something more particular?
Hi, im glad the videos were helpful, with regards planking to the 5th rib, this was advised in the kit instructions, also the length of the planks were not long enough to complete the full length of the hull, though technically dependant upon the length of the hull a 3 or 4 shift pattern for the planking would have been used.
Great couple of videos. This has answered some questions I've had about this technique. What are the chances you could add a third video demonstrating stealers and drop planks? I haven't been able to find anything that adequately explains/demonstrates how these are determined and implemented.
Hi Mark, thanks, I will be doing some planking soon on the Santisma Trinidad, there was no need for stealers or drop planks on the model in the videos, rule of thumb if your plank would be less than half its width, you would use a stealer or drop plank, hopefully i will be able to show this on the current model.
Great tutorial thank you as i am about to start my first ship. A continuation of the planking would be great to see. Hwo did you decide to run that plank only to the 5th rib? I thought you would of cut the length half way through the rib to allow the second something to purchase. Would appreciate to understand the thought process behind.
Hi Gareth, the 5th rib was determined by the kit instructions, I will soon be planking the hull on the Santisima Trinidad, I will film the whole process. What ship are you starting with?
@g-kip thanks for the reply I will look out for that video. I was given a 1:96 HMS Peregrine by a family member, bit bigger than I would of liked to start with, but they knew I built other models, and they were not up to completing it. They have just built the Hull structure, so I am currently fixing some mistakes and prepping for the decking and planking.
Its a nice ship, if your doing the Coral kit, its a double planked hull, so the first planking is a bit more forgiving, as you can use filler to fix any issues, as long as you fix the imperfections in the hull, the second planking is easier, with the planking you shouldn't have any real issues or need to do any marking out until you reach the black planking level (about half way down).
@g-kip thanks for the advice, its definitely going to be a baptism of fire, but I have no timeframe and I am planning on just taking my time. Think I might document it as a beginner experience and lessons learnt for people coming along behind me. Plan for tonight is just to organise the wood as the instructions are not in English and I get goggle translate to work out types lol
Hi! Why goes the plank only to rib five? With this method could it go the whole length, couldn‘t it? I am a newbie, building right now my first ship. I am planing to make use of stealers and drppers. Btw I am filling the spaces between the ribs with wood. Cheers!
Hi Robert, the supplied timber for the planks isn't long enough to do the complete length, so the shorter plank alternates from bow to rib 5 and then rib 9 to the stern. If the planks were long enough this method could be used, the main thing if you measure and mark up the Hull, you will see in advance where you will need to use steelers etc,
@@g-kip Hi, that was quick! Thank you! My planks are long enough, no problems there. I studied books on historical ships and found out, that shipwrights of old did put their planks together. No trees high enough presumably. But they did it to a regular muster. I am not tryingto do that - it would be extaordinarily time consuming…. My first one will be with stealers and droppers, so as to have some progress :-) Afterwards maybe I try my hand at tapering of the planks. I am afraid it will be time consuming too. I shall see. Thanks again for your video - not too quick, so one can follow the steps and listen to your comments and explanation.
Hi Robert, you will also find if following shipwrights methods, curved planks would have been cut to shape from larger pieces of timber, not something that can be replicated with a kit, unless you replace the timber
@@g-kip True. I have seen those beautiful plans! Time and skills aside, timber is very expensive in my civilized country, so no go. Never mind, the hull of my HMS Pegasus is slowly taking shape.
Ywa, I would like to see more of your planking method and especially how you make the rabbit. Also, why is there two sets of captions? It makes reading either more difficult?!?
@@markdeschane4467 Hi Mark, did you watch part one, i believe i marked out and cut the Rabit. With regards the double captions, ive fixed that issue on later videos.
I have a question about the plank you placed only until section 5. Why only till section 5? Isn’t better to go all the way till the end? How do you connect then with the next plank? Great video 🙏🏼 thanks for the detailed explanation ❤
Don't get caught by the wife .... words to live by lol I would like to see more of the planking. I find it fascinating. I think I fluked planking the Soleil as I just made it up as I went along 😊
Hi Greg, I will be honest I've been the same, I decided to do some more research, and read anumber of books, the state of the kits instructions spurred me on.
@g-kip I have seen the method you are using before and it certainly does appear to be a better way.i never show the front of the Soleil because each side is not a mirror of the other.This is something that annoys me. Next ship will be planked the way you are doing it.
Small point: what you call a ‘rabbit’ is actually a ‘rebate’. Some people say ‘REE-bate’ and some say ‘REBB-at’. Calling it a ‘rabbit’ is some kind of internet thing.
Hi, its the hardest part of the construction, but it gets easier with practice, despite it looking like hard work it is fairely relaxing lol (when its going right)
About to start planking my first model, this was extraordinarily informative! Thank you very much!
Your welcome glad to hear it was useful
I really enjoyed watching this. After a long break, I decided it was time to open the shipyard again. I've watched a lot of videos to help resurrect some old skills, and for some reason yours made me think, "Yeah, that's the way I want to do it." Thanks again for taking the time.
Thanks John, im glad my video has helped, its a great hobby, what ship/ boat are you planning to work on?
Waiting to see more progress as where to use steelers, etc. Thank you!
Hi, I will be continuing the planking soon, Im almost finished the Belem kit, I found working on two models was slightly distracting. Sorry for the delay.
Yes please show more on planking. I found out through watching this that there are ways, I would rather do it this way I have a bender and gonna make the other rig (knew nothing about) So I can bend in the other direction I have a chamfer and thanks to you I am enabled to use them all correctly as I am about to start planking and you filled in a lot of blanks. Thank you
Hi Glad it was useful, I will be doing more on planking soon, just been a bit distracted with the HMS Victory model.
@@g-kip you are most helpful. I am in the same track as you I got 2 HMS Victory kits to do. One smaller. I’m doing a comfortable schooner to get warmed in. I’m a model builder of aircraft and dioramas like trenches etc. Haven’t posted footage yet new channel. But I decided I want to do something boat wise for my inner child. As an 80’s baby from E london. These kits were simply… too audacious as a dream I’m afraid. But I’m not a kid anymore hahaha. Yeah massively helping. I will be present and correct looking forward to your channel as I say doing it and doing it this way will be for me I think. Thank you as well because the gentlemen I grew up with if your dad didn’t know you wasn’t getting helped.
I am new to model building. Thank you for the help.
Hi Kevin, I'm glad you have found the videos useful, Its a great hobby to get into, relaxing, with a great sense of achievement when you complete things. Couple of tips, dont rush to complete things, if your struggling to do something stop, dont be afraid to ask others, there are a number of great forums, and content creators on youtube who are always willing to offer help and advice, lastly dont be afraid to change things, kit instructions are a guide, not always accurate, main thing is to have fun.
Yes I would like to see mare! Very good work, and very helpful videos. Thank you!
I'm beginning this new hobby. This is very helpful!!
Thank you!
Im glad you found it useful, what are you building?
Really looking forward to the rest of the planking. Your video by far is the most detailed I have seen. Thank you!
Thanks, I am currently starting the planking of Santisima Trinidad, later in the planking process i will be picking up where the last video finished.
what happens when we just soak the plank and used it that way. Is this cause any damage later?
Great video. Will help a lot of people. Thanks for sharing
Your welcome, just passing on tips ive picked up from others, yourself included😃
A great video, I am very keen to see how you progress further down the hull
Thanks Paul, more is on the way, i will be doing a full planking video / videos on the Occre Polamos
Just the guidance I was looking for, thankyou.
Thanks Lee glad you found it useful
Well done! Thanks for the education.
Thank you, I'm glad you found it useful
great clear photos & explanation of plank preparation . can you make a video showing the right way the planks are laid on the bottom of the frame & how they transition over the keel ? THANKS George
Hi George im in the process of doing more planking videos, first one will be out on Saturday, it covers the prep side but the planking will be following, a bit more in depth this time.
Very helpful series on planking. Please record more tutorials on this. Thank you.
Hi Paul, glad you found it useful, I will be recording more soon.
@@g-kip Thank you very much. Look forward to you completing a ship with all the techniques and possible pitfalls highlighted.
Hope I’m not expecting too much but I am keen to learn as I’m completely new to wooden ship modelling but, very keen to learn. I find your style very interesting and easy to follow.
I would love to see a continuation of this planking. I'll be keeping an eye on your channel for more videos. I'm 2/3rds of the way done with my 1st ship so am new to the hobby. Do you have a video where you explain the reason for (and how to place) the strips of wood that jut out from under the deck at the beginning of Part 1? The strips that you butt the top edge of the first plank onto, that is. So kind of you to make these videos. Thank you.
Hi Dakota, I will shortly be planking the hull of the Santisima Trinidad, with regards the pieces of wood jutting out below the deck of the Marie Jeanne, the model instructions specified that the bottom of first plank be level with the bottom of the deck, I used them purely as a guide, to make placement of the plank easier. (cheating), with regards planking the position of the first plank is dependant upon the kit and style of the ship, generally kit instructions are ok for the first step, general rule if the plank sits naturally ie not needing to be forced into position, and looks to be running the correct line of the hull you should be ok. Where kit instructions tend to be wrong is the lower half of the hull, with funny shaping ie triangular shaped wedges at both stern and bow, thin slivers of wood to fill in gaps etc this would never have been the case, a hull plank should never be cut more than half its width. if you measure and mark out the hull and taper the planks where needed this shouldn't happen, hope this helps.
@@g-kip Thank you so much for that info. I will work through your videos before bothering you with additional questions which you may have already answered. I'd really like to focus on first planking next build and have purchased a beginners kit (occre albatros) to practice. My first planking on current build is a mess and has funny shaped pieces everywhere. Same with the 2nd planking. Your method looks like one I'll feel confident adopting. I look forward to watching you plank the Santisima Trinidad. Thanks again for taking so much time to share your knowledge and experience.
Hi Dakota, no worries, its a great idea to start with a smaller beginner ship, so many people jump straight into the advanced kits and never complete them (myself included, I started with HMS Victory, some ten years ago, made such a mess of it and wasted £100's of pounds, I never touched another kit for about 5 years). Im always happy to answer (to best of my ability), or point you in the right direction if you have any questions or queries, so dont worry its no bother.
Thank you very much! Very helpful.
Thank you, glad it helped
Aaah, I wish I found your video earlier. I started 3 months ago buidking my first ship model and the planking was torment. Lol. I passed that part kinda succesfully. But after watching how you approached yours, I am definitely going to do so for my next ship build!
Hi John, there is a lack of instructions when it comes to planking, Im glad you found the video useful, this is one of the easiest methods that i have come across, yes there is more work involved ie marking and measuring but i think the results are better more true to the ways of old, though planks would have been cut to follow the lines of the hull, not straight bits of timber that we get in kits lol, what kit are you building?
@g-kip I'm building the Spanish San Juan Nepomuceno from Artesania Latina.
I have watch other pros build this ship and they mentioned it is a beautiful ship but very hard. Being my first I certainly choose a good one. Lol
@g-kip To add to this, I have completed the planking after challenges and have now finished the second plank layer on one side. Working on the gun ports on the port side and then, plank the thin second layer. Loving the journey so far!
@@johnmerchan5103 nothing like starting simple lol, its a great hobbie to get into, the community is usually pretty helpful if you ever need help etc, a good forum to use is ships of scale.
I was also wondering why you only planked till section 5 instead of continuing to the end. Would it happen to be because there is inner layer and outer layer of planks on the particular model you are showing? I'm curious as I have a cheap starter kit that only has one layer of planks and was thinking of just planking from front to back as I was planning on using filler for the gaps, sanding and then painting the hull. Great video though. Was helpful with how you measured where the planks would go.
The planks in the Kit were not long enough for the length of the hull.
@@g-kip Ah yes that would make sense then. Thanks for clarifying!
Love these videos. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Interesting. 😮will follow the build.
Thank you.
Great video! On bending the plank with heat, what if you make too tight of a curve? Can that be addressed or tossed? Thanks.
Hi, straight after heating and bending the plank, the plank remains reasonable plyable for a while, if its a minor over bending you can usually correct it when placing the plank, you can reverse the plank and attempt to reshape, but care would need to be taken, slowely and not applying too much pressure, I will try and demonstrate in my next video if i have time.
Thank you so much for these two videos, they have helped a lot. One question I have is why the plank you lay in this video only goes up to the 5th rib? is this because it is the halfway point of all measured ribs or something more particular?
Hi, im glad the videos were helpful, with regards planking to the 5th rib, this was advised in the kit instructions, also the length of the planks were not long enough to complete the full length of the hull, though technically dependant upon the length of the hull a 3 or 4 shift pattern for the planking would have been used.
Great couple of videos. This has answered some questions I've had about this technique. What are the chances you could add a third video demonstrating stealers and drop planks? I haven't been able to find anything that adequately explains/demonstrates how these are determined and implemented.
Hi Mark, thanks, I will be doing some planking soon on the Santisma Trinidad, there was no need for stealers or drop planks on the model in the videos, rule of thumb if your plank would be less than half its width, you would use a stealer or drop plank, hopefully i will be able to show this on the current model.
Great tutorial thank you as i am about to start my first ship. A continuation of the planking would be great to see. Hwo did you decide to run that plank only to the 5th rib? I thought you would of cut the length half way through the rib to allow the second something to purchase. Would appreciate to understand the thought process behind.
Hi Gareth, the 5th rib was determined by the kit instructions, I will soon be planking the hull on the Santisima Trinidad, I will film the whole process. What ship are you starting with?
@g-kip thanks for the reply I will look out for that video. I was given a 1:96 HMS Peregrine by a family member, bit bigger than I would of liked to start with, but they knew I built other models, and they were not up to completing it. They have just built the Hull structure, so I am currently fixing some mistakes and prepping for the decking and planking.
Its a nice ship, if your doing the Coral kit, its a double planked hull, so the first planking is a bit more forgiving, as you can use filler to fix any issues, as long as you fix the imperfections in the hull, the second planking is easier, with the planking you shouldn't have any real issues or need to do any marking out until you reach the black planking level (about half way down).
@g-kip thanks for the advice, its definitely going to be a baptism of fire, but I have no timeframe and I am planning on just taking my time. Think I might document it as a beginner experience and lessons learnt for people coming along behind me. Plan for tonight is just to organise the wood as the instructions are not in English and I get goggle translate to work out types lol
More please.
Hi! Why goes the plank only to rib five? With this method could it go the whole length, couldn‘t it?
I am a newbie, building right now my first ship. I am planing to make use of stealers and drppers. Btw I am filling the spaces between the ribs with wood. Cheers!
Hi Robert, the supplied timber for the planks isn't long enough to do the complete length, so the shorter plank alternates from bow to rib 5 and then rib 9 to the stern. If the planks were long enough this method could be used, the main thing if you measure and mark up the Hull, you will see in advance where you will need to use steelers etc,
@@g-kip Hi, that was quick! Thank you! My planks are long enough, no problems there. I studied books on historical ships and found out, that shipwrights of old did put their planks together. No trees high enough presumably. But they did it to a regular muster. I am not tryingto do that - it would be extaordinarily time consuming…. My first one will be with stealers and droppers, so as to have some progress :-) Afterwards maybe I try my hand at tapering of the planks. I am afraid it will be time consuming too. I shall see. Thanks again for your video - not too quick, so one can follow the steps and listen to your comments and explanation.
Hi Robert, you will also find if following shipwrights methods, curved planks would have been cut to shape from larger pieces of timber, not something that can be replicated with a kit, unless you replace the timber
@@g-kip True. I have seen those beautiful plans! Time and skills aside, timber is very expensive in my civilized country, so no go. Never mind, the hull of my HMS Pegasus is slowly taking shape.
Ywa, I would like to see more of your planking method and especially how you make the rabbit. Also, why is there two sets of captions? It makes reading either more difficult?!?
@@markdeschane4467 Hi Mark, did you watch part one, i believe i marked out and cut the Rabit. With regards the double captions, ive fixed that issue on later videos.
I have a question about the plank you placed only until section 5. Why only till section 5? Isn’t better to go all the way till the end? How do you connect then with the next plank? Great video 🙏🏼 thanks for the detailed explanation ❤
The planks in the Kit were not long enough for the length of the hull
Interessant, danke😂
Vielen Dank für Ihr Willkommen
Would love to see more and would like not see the finished hull. Thank you so much
I will be planking HMS Victory soon, I intend to do a more detailed video.
Don't get caught by the wife .... words to live by lol I would like to see more of the planking. I find it fascinating. I think I fluked planking the Soleil as I just made it up as I went along 😊
Hi Greg, I will be honest I've been the same, I decided to do some more research, and read anumber of books, the state of the kits instructions spurred me on.
@g-kip I have seen the method you are using before and it certainly does appear to be a better way.i never show the front of the Soleil because each side is not a mirror of the other.This is something that annoys me. Next ship will be planked the way you are doing it.
Why go to all this trouble if the hull has a second planking. ?
Hi Peter, some kits do not have a second layer of planking.
Small point: what you call a ‘rabbit’ is actually a ‘rebate’. Some people say ‘REE-bate’ and some say ‘REBB-at’. Calling it a ‘rabbit’ is some kind of internet thing.
Hi, Thanks for the correction, In several books that I have it is called a rabbet, not sure why I spelt it with an I.
@@g-kip Okay, I haven't seen anything in print here but I'm in Australia.
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Thank you
Guess I will be buying models with plastic model hulls this looks like a ton of work lol
Hi, its the hardest part of the construction, but it gets easier with practice, despite it looking like hard work it is fairely relaxing lol (when its going right)
Would be a great learning experience,if hands don’t fill screen most of the time
Thank you for your feed back, I will endeavour to improve my filming.
How about explaining what you are doing instead of playing music. Thank You.
Hi, thanks for your feedback, unfortunately at the time I didn't have a microphone, there are explanations in the sub titles.