I don't do much sprayer work, but my thought is to stay with a single hose and just add more drops from the boom. I think that is the only easy way to keep the nitrogen placement close to where you want it while working on the hillsides. Interesting video!
I have an 8 row sprayer I converted to " Y drops " and it cost me a total of 250 dollars complete ! Go through an outlet to get the parts ... orifices .....droptubes......plugs etc. Very simple to use and easy to change back to a normal sprayer ! You cant many them for the cost you can buy them !
What you could do,is add programmable Gyroscopes to each delivery tube to ensure the system compensates for terrain inclines and declines and direction of row crop. Then probably some self extending Y-tubes with sensors enabling the tubes to extend/retract based on whether the tubes need to be closer or farther away from the stalk. Mate all this to a central computer display in the cab coupled in with engine-transmission management, GPS Nav, Beer cooler, and you got the basis for a pretty good John Deere Precision Application System. Also guaranteed job security for the JD Service Technicians, cause only JD would come up with something like this.
We made a set of them 2 years ago for a FAST 15 Coulter bar for a neighbor. We had a 3/4 pipe bout an inch long that we ran the hose through to hold it out near the row. I think they were about 18” or 20” apart so leaving about 5-6” away from the row. Prolly had the hose come out about 8” past the holder. Corn needs to be about 18” tall. Now the bad like Jon Stevens said the Y drop in general didn’t yield like methods like anhydrous and it cost more too. That’s why we don’t do it. And if it’s dry and stays dry when u do apply it the N barely makes it in the soil. If ur still interested in trying it PM me ur email or phone number and I’ll send u a picture of one I think we still have laying in the shop
If you used a steel drop down from the main boom, could it be hinged so it breaks away if it hits a obstruction and a spring to pull it back in place again? Just a thought! Great idea with the Y fittings to get it closer to roots!👍
I was told that if you put all your nitrogen on replant and are up with the out come ,stay with that program . But if you side dress and like the results go with that . They don't have enough feedback get on this late application of nitrogen. Feed the crop when it needs it is what they are pushing Pollution Control runoff and so on .
What works best for hill side aplication is a good old fashioned cultivator. You can run the hose right behind the shank. The cultivator doesn't even need to be in the ground more than an inch. Travis on his channel ,"the Rest of the story ",is doing just that. Last spring he was side dressing corn with his cultivator and he was only scratching the surface. I know you are 100 % no till but I know this can work for you on your hills. Travis Kuster farms the Mississippi River Valley on the Wisconsin side. Which is also very hilly. Check out his channel from last June.
I'm trying to figure out to do the same thing. Could you put a hinge on the metal pipe swing forward and back but not side to side? What about a gallon jug with bottom cut out on y's you can cut holes and run hose through each side? How many gallons per acre do you use? I've not figured out how much to put down for 200 bushel corn. Take care and have fun
I was putting 40gal per acre of 30%. Also it’s getting some with the corn starter. If you can go into the App Store and look up Ag Phd they have a fertilizer removal app. It’s pretty good for listing fertilizer requirements
there is a lot of data showing that the N placed at the plant vs broadcast or even knifed at 15" off the plant is a better yield or cost savings. I am living proof of that this year. 360 company is very gimmick to me. they want 700 dollars a row. there is a company out of south Dakota that makes them for 170 per row. a little imagination and you can do it for 20 dollars a row. don't forget the orifice and barb at the boom. everything kind of limp noodles around back there and works great. the corn wont let the Y drop get to another row. your hose dragging on the ground is longer then the distance between the corn plants. there are also guys that use a drop hose with a nozzle that squirts the product to the plant so you don't have drag hoses.
I’m thinking of making up a few and do some testing. I really wish I could do saddle tanks and a 3pt boom. That would be an ideal way to do it without driving corn down
Nitrogen has to be put in the ground 18" deep between rows or it burns everything, i have tried to get it but i dont have the plows to put it in the ground for my sweet corm
well yes it is the only real nitrogen we can get around here other the buying a 19-19-19 witch only gives you 19% N and 19-19 other crap never mind the price of $25 a 25kg bag, 50 Lb. or a 7-7-7 but we need a lot of N so these low number do no good when i need 1 Lb per acre of N it is a white gas once in leaves the ta under presser, high presser,, and will burn your face off if got in the way pick it up at our local welding supply store in a big tank like a long propane tank on a wagon like you would have on a slap at your home for cooking and heating, i am on hard red clay and is only thing that makes it grow anything good, and being i am all red clay it stays put for months
I don't do much sprayer work, but my thought is to stay with a single hose and just add more drops from the boom. I think that is the only easy way to keep the nitrogen placement close to where you want it while working on the hillsides. Interesting video!
I have an 8 row sprayer I converted to " Y drops " and it cost me a total of 250 dollars complete ! Go through an outlet to get the parts ... orifices .....droptubes......plugs etc. Very simple to use and easy to change back to a normal sprayer ! You cant many them for the cost you can buy them !
What you could do,is add programmable Gyroscopes to each delivery tube to ensure the system compensates for terrain inclines and declines and direction of row crop. Then probably some self extending Y-tubes with sensors enabling the tubes to extend/retract based on whether the tubes need to be closer or farther away from the stalk.
Mate all this to a central computer display in the cab coupled in with engine-transmission management, GPS Nav, Beer cooler, and you got the basis for a pretty good John Deere Precision Application System.
Also guaranteed job security for the JD Service Technicians, cause only JD would come up with something like this.
Yetter makes disc injection system ,
Only thing I can think of put a joint in boom near tank and a wheel halfway down boom arm to follow land
We made a set of them 2 years ago for a FAST 15 Coulter bar for a neighbor. We had a 3/4 pipe bout an inch long that we ran the hose through to hold it out near the row. I think they were about 18” or 20” apart so leaving about 5-6” away from the row. Prolly had the hose come out about 8” past the holder. Corn needs to be about 18” tall. Now the bad like Jon Stevens said the Y drop in general didn’t yield like methods like anhydrous and it cost more too. That’s why we don’t do it. And if it’s dry and stays dry when u do apply it the N barely makes it in the soil. If ur still interested in trying it PM me ur email or phone number and I’ll send u a picture of one I think we still have laying in the shop
I was looking today, I can’t send messages on here anymore?? Are you on Instagram?
PA Farms no I have a Facebook. Do u have one?
If you used a steel drop down from the main boom, could it be hinged so it breaks away if it hits a obstruction and a spring to pull it back in place again?
Just a thought! Great idea with the Y fittings to get it closer to roots!👍
I was told that if you put all your nitrogen on replant and are up with the out come ,stay with that program . But if you side dress and like the results go with that . They don't have enough feedback get on this late application of nitrogen. Feed the crop when it needs it is what they are pushing Pollution Control runoff and so on .
What works best for hill side aplication is a good old fashioned cultivator. You can run the hose right behind the shank. The cultivator doesn't even need to be in the ground more than an inch. Travis on his channel ,"the Rest of the story ",is doing just that. Last spring he was side dressing corn with his cultivator and he was only scratching the surface. I know you are 100 % no till but I know this can work for you on your hills. Travis Kuster farms the Mississippi River Valley on the Wisconsin side. Which is also very hilly. Check out his channel from last June.
I'm trying to figure out to do the same thing. Could you put a hinge on the metal pipe swing forward and back but not side to side? What about a gallon jug with bottom cut out on y's you can cut holes and run hose through each side? How many gallons per acre do you use? I've not figured out how much to put down for 200 bushel corn. Take care and have fun
I was putting 40gal per acre of 30%. Also it’s getting some with the corn starter. If you can go into the App Store and look up Ag Phd they have a fertilizer removal app. It’s pretty good for listing fertilizer requirements
@@PAFarms yes I use it all the time just never been around any liquid nitrogen. Thanks
Thanks 😊
there is a lot of data showing that the N placed at the plant vs broadcast or even knifed at 15" off the plant is a better yield or cost savings. I am living proof of that this year. 360 company is very gimmick to me. they want 700 dollars a row. there is a company out of south Dakota that makes them for 170 per row.
a little imagination and you can do it for 20 dollars a row.
don't forget the orifice and barb at the boom.
everything kind of limp noodles around back there and works great.
the corn wont let the Y drop get to another row. your hose dragging on the ground is longer then the distance between the corn plants.
there are also guys that use a drop hose with a nozzle that squirts the product to the plant so you don't have drag hoses.
I’m thinking of making up a few and do some testing. I really wish I could do saddle tanks and a 3pt boom. That would be an ideal way to do it without driving corn down
PA Farms saddle tanks are out there. look at tractor house or build a boom. that would be a great setup!
Did you try it?
Not yet. I think it might be something to test out before I change it all over.
Nitrogen has to be put in the ground 18" deep between rows or it burns everything, i have tried to get it but i dont have the plows to put it in the ground for my sweet corm
Talking about top-dressing here. Usually it's a liquid mixture of nitrogen and say potash. Not pure 100% liquid nitrogen LoL
Arnold Romppai 18” might be a slight exaggeration lol. Most guys don’t even chisel that deep
well the liqide nitrogen plow fingers go 16 to 18"" deep and still gas comes up and burns the plants or grass, oh were leaving out the girls are we?
Arnold Romppai are u talking about anhydrous? Liquid in the tanks but a white gas once in leaves the shank?
well yes it is the only real nitrogen we can get around here other the buying a 19-19-19 witch only gives you 19% N and 19-19 other crap never mind the price of $25 a 25kg bag, 50 Lb. or a 7-7-7 but we need a lot of N so these low number do no good when i need 1 Lb per acre of N it is a white gas once in leaves the ta under presser, high presser,, and will burn your face off if got in the way pick it up at our local welding supply store in a big tank like a long propane tank on a wagon like you would have on a slap at your home for cooking and heating, i am on hard red clay and is only thing that makes it grow anything good, and being i am all red clay it stays put for months
Thank you.