14:09 -- Zeke always calls Grisha "that father", in Japanese "ano chichi-oya", where "chichi-oya" is a very _emotionally distant_ way of saying "father". On the other hand, at the scene of inheriting the Beast Titan, he called Xsaver "o-tou-san", which is the normal way of addressing one's own father.
Yea, it's one of my favorite episodes. It's like the backstory of a backstory (cause we seen a tiny bit of it from Grisha's pov) and it's just such a twist, it hits hard and makes a lot of sense. One of the final big puzzle pieces in the story. And yea, in all honesty I'm kind of team Zeke. I accept that his plan and outlook CAN be argued against for sure, but then again, season 4 is about this very complex and difficult situation, and it's not like anyone else has a perfect plan. Imo people tend to overlook that despite all the allegories for real life racism, this is a fantasy story and the Eldians ARE the titan-people. Honestly, a desire to simply get rid of this whole phenomenon is quite understandable, and he still wants to achieve it in a somewhat human way - making them infertile as opposed to straight up murdering them, and he still accounts for protecting the last generation growing old too. /rant
@@legandari9574even eren knows that. But eren has always been about freedom Since season 1 episode 1, so it was great knowing he wasn’t going with zeke…he stayed in character
because Zeke has a vision. He do not want the future eldians to suffer and be used as war weapons. This episode sealed Zeke for me as a martyr. It's like if I knew someday that my children would be sold off to some people to become a tool, I would rather kill them by my own hands than knowing that in the near future, people will use them for their benefit.
I just realized Zeke started wearing glasses right after he became Beast Titan. Are those glasses his predecessor Tom Ksaver's? He just wear them because Ksaver used to wear them? 😱
2:42 -- Regarding the Tragedy of Lago: it was shown in the ending sequence of Season 2, together with the scenes of people fleeing from the city and the hiden titans suddenly emerging from the ground after the sunrise. This is interesting because Season 2 was released long time _before_ the releasing of the manga chapter adapted in this episode, and many manga readers who were watching Season 2 _(including me)_ erroneously thought that the scene in the ending sequence which was showing the people fleeing was about the exodus of Eldians after the Great Titan War, while it was actually about the people of Lago.
@@zthehero Voice actor Tatsuhisa Suzuki is LiSA's husband. However, there was a period three years ago when he made a big mistake and refrained from activities. He announced his resumption of activities less than a year after his mistake was discovered, but he seems to be feeling quite embarrassed about it.
Yeah, Zeke knows that if he touches Eren, then Eren will gain access to the founding Titan powers. And in THIS very moment, he's not quite sure 100% if he trusts Eren yet.
This episode summed up - How much Zeke trauma do you guys want? YES! 2:30 Zeke's grandfather taught him on thing, while his father taught him a completely different thing. All while he had to pretend and play the perfect soldier for the marleyans who were training him. 4:30 THE turning point for Zeke. Until he met Tom Ksaver, the previous Beast Titan, things were looking incredibly bleak for him. Even after, all the pressure he was under lead to Zeke confessing to Tom and the suggestion to turn in his parents, all so his grandparents could be spared. 6:25 we see a much darker side of Grisha here, how little confidence he had in Zeke. 7:38 what a powerful statement, coming from such a kind hearted person. 10:50 this is when the idea started forming in Zeke's head - how to solve the titan problem. 11:40 and with that one statement, Magy you unraveled the whole plot of AoT. Well done, I'm proud of you! 14:10 you can see just how much Zeke ended up despising his father and how highly he thought of Tom Ksaver. 16:54 nobody expected Zeke to do this, Levi included. 20:12 excellent observation, Magy. Thank you for the beautiful commentary and reaction ❤
Levi was made into a total idiot in this episode. Your plan is to strip a bomb to immortal guy, sit RIGHT NEXT TO IT and keep torturing him so he would want to end this suffering? You entrusted your life in his hands, not the other way around!
He's blinded by his hatred. He thought Zeke is just a one dimensional bad guy who loves to see people suffering and would place his own survival on top of all, thus underestimate how much resolve Zeke has. Kind of like how most audiences thought in the beginning.
@@henry_tsai Levi is smarter than this. Hate didn't blind him from rescuing Eren from Annie, or from defeating the beast titan but not killing him, or from not chasing Kenny. Just slicing him without a bomb would be enough to prevent him from transforming.
@@Сайтамен But hate prevented him from dig more into who Zeke is. When they were talking about what happened in Connie's village Levi simply concluded that Zeke lacks sympathy and is a total trash, which leads to Levi overlook the possibility of Zeke willing to sacrifice all for his plan, thus thinking a bomb in his belly is a good idea.
If you got a titan power, and in your final year, you still have a important dream that can save whole humanity need to come true, will you choose ignite the thunder spear? Don't tell me "Yes I will" because you are not Zeke...
Can we not criticize Grisha WHOSE SISTER WAS EATEN BY DOGS you do not grow from that trauma y’all something like that happens to you, you’re damn near permanently jumped-start from children mentality to dark/gloom adult. Dude lost his sister and its high key his fault. It makes sense for him to have anti-marley hatred and everything he does from then on out is for that purpose. Also ladies, eren was referencing the scene where he was crying to historia telling her to eat him and how he shouldn’t have been born. You remember?
Yes you can. I understand to understand Grishas attitude towards the situation but saying that Grishas actions were justified after Zeke asked him whether or not he cares about him dying or not he does not respond with being caring but skipping the question and arguing that he did nothing wrong "sending his sister to death". It is a cruel world man.
I admit I'm a little confused about you saying you can understand Zeke, Magy. Because HE was the one who turned his own parents IN to the Marleyan's and because of it his mother was turned into a titan and his father was spared by the owl and given the attack titan powers. So I was just wondering what it was that you understood. "How Zeke is" Could you please clarify?? Because he doesn't actually hate Marleyan's. Like at all. He's not close to anywhere near as extreme as Gabi is in her hatred of Eldian's, but he doesn't like them any less or more than Marleyan's. Everything he's doing is based in logical data, not emotional attachment.
Huh? Are you serious? It's very easy to empathize with Zeke and how he feels after how he was treated as a child. Bro is out here writing novels not understanding a very basic comment
@@vicc6790 "Writing novels."?? Bruh, the comment was said at a very strange part. It wasn't a generalized comment about understanding Zeke "in general" as you seem to think. They said this in response to the hatred that both sides are perpetuating. It wasn't just a simple comment. It was said for a specific reason and considering what I said, it doesn't add up. They think Zeke hates Eldians. That's why they said they understood him. Because like Gabi, he was raised with the same hatred as her. So I clarified that he didn't betray Marley because he hates them.
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14:09 -- Zeke always calls Grisha "that father", in Japanese "ano chichi-oya", where "chichi-oya" is a very _emotionally distant_ way of saying "father". On the other hand, at the scene of inheriting the Beast Titan, he called Xsaver "o-tou-san", which is the normal way of addressing one's own father.
This was when Zeke finally passed Reiner to become my favorite character of the entire series.
Yea, it's one of my favorite episodes. It's like the backstory of a backstory (cause we seen a tiny bit of it from Grisha's pov) and it's just such a twist, it hits hard and makes a lot of sense. One of the final big puzzle pieces in the story. And yea, in all honesty I'm kind of team Zeke. I accept that his plan and outlook CAN be argued against for sure, but then again, season 4 is about this very complex and difficult situation, and it's not like anyone else has a perfect plan.
Imo people tend to overlook that despite all the allegories for real life racism, this is a fantasy story and the Eldians ARE the titan-people. Honestly, a desire to simply get rid of this whole phenomenon is quite understandable, and he still wants to achieve it in a somewhat human way - making them infertile as opposed to straight up murdering them, and he still accounts for protecting the last generation growing old too. /rant
i hate the fact but yes zeke's plan was the best
@@legandari9574even eren knows that. But eren has always been about freedom
Since season 1 episode 1, so it was great knowing he wasn’t going with zeke…he stayed in character
Being a horse in AOT is quite depressing
I agree with you here fell şadforfor him
Yea, poor Jean :(
Like being a dog in JoJo's
Erwin: *SUSUME!!!*
Horses: Wait, what!?
自動翻訳が設定できなかったので貴女のリアクションを正しく理解できませんでした😢
"The greatest salvation is never being born into this world" is lowkey correct...
because Zeke has a vision. He do not want the future eldians to suffer and be used as war weapons. This episode sealed Zeke for me as a martyr. It's like if I knew someday that my children would be sold off to some people to become a tool, I would rather kill them by my own hands than knowing that in the near future, people will use them for their benefit.
I just realized Zeke started wearing glasses right after he became Beast Titan. Are those glasses his predecessor Tom Ksaver's? He just wear them because Ksaver used to wear them? 😱
2:42 -- Regarding the Tragedy of Lago: it was shown in the ending sequence of Season 2, together with the scenes of people fleeing from the city and the hiden titans suddenly emerging from the ground after the sunrise.
This is interesting because Season 2 was released long time _before_ the releasing of the manga chapter adapted in this episode, and many manga readers who were watching Season 2 _(including me)_ erroneously thought that the scene in the ending sequence which was showing the people fleeing was about the exodus of Eldians after the Great Titan War, while it was actually about the people of Lago.
The "Grice" guy grisha was talking to was Falco's uncle
And Grice's voice actor is also singer LiSA's husband.
@@gotate4487 wtf? Really?
@@gotate4487 ok I think you're making that up.. but fyi, I wasn't making it up
I agree with you here
@@zthehero Voice actor Tatsuhisa Suzuki is LiSA's husband.
However, there was a period three years ago when he made a big mistake and refrained from activities. He announced his resumption of activities less than a year after his mistake was discovered, but he seems to be feeling quite embarrassed about it.
Yeah, Zeke knows that if he touches Eren, then Eren will gain access to the founding Titan powers. And in THIS very moment, he's not quite sure 100% if he trusts Eren yet.
After this reaction, I can't wait for the episode "Brothers" and what will happen later :D
This episode summed up - How much Zeke trauma do you guys want? YES!
2:30 Zeke's grandfather taught him on thing, while his father taught him a completely different thing. All while he had to pretend and play the perfect soldier for the marleyans who were training him.
4:30 THE turning point for Zeke. Until he met Tom Ksaver, the previous Beast Titan, things were looking incredibly bleak for him. Even after, all the pressure he was under lead to Zeke confessing to Tom and the suggestion to turn in his parents, all so his grandparents could be spared.
6:25 we see a much darker side of Grisha here, how little confidence he had in Zeke.
7:38 what a powerful statement, coming from such a kind hearted person.
10:50 this is when the idea started forming in Zeke's head - how to solve the titan problem.
11:40 and with that one statement, Magy you unraveled the whole plot of AoT. Well done, I'm proud of you!
14:10 you can see just how much Zeke ended up despising his father and how highly he thought of Tom Ksaver.
16:54 nobody expected Zeke to do this, Levi included.
20:12 excellent observation, Magy.
Thank you for the beautiful commentary and reaction ❤
delete the last one... u are kinda saying she is right and thats a spoiler
@@SIRafael98 I said it's an excellent observation, I never said it's right or wrong. Pay attention.
I agree with you here my friend have nice day my friend
@@SIRafael98you are literally spoiling it saying he is right
@@Alexszander why would you bring up that it's an "excellent observation" if it was incorrect? You are insane.
Only hajimi isayama can make you hate a charter in episod 14 then make you love the same charter in episod 15 really isayama is a great writer
RIP Levi 😔😔😔
4x14 : everyone hate Zeke
4x15 : Wait...
Finally AoT
"Were not heroes. Marleyans just see us as weapons"
- Annie not buying Marley's propaganda
Yeahhh Finally..Let's go to Another Episode Girls..
I love his episode iş amzing and l fell şad for zeke here he had şad life keep going Queenyour the best
Saving eldians from suffering by making then never exist.
Eren is the son Grisha wanted in Liberio, and Zeke is the son Grisha wanted in Paradys
This was one of the worst cliffhangers for me. Felt it took forever to find out what happened after the explosion
Remember when Eren said in Season 1:
"Because I was born into this world."
Just hold on to that thought.
Finally !!
Yes. Zeke is the best
Ah Eren. What a great actor u r
Eren is eren : "because I was born into this world"🔥💣
Watch wind breaker, its an anime like tokyo revengers
Who' s the enemy?
Depends on your perspective
Sorry, That Was a Strange Thing to Ask.
@@anuragsosa No one is an enemy, just the world is cruel
@@CaremellDansen "The world is cruel and also beautiful.."
That changes throughout the show
only a few more people 🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥
自動翻訳が設定できなかったので貴女のリアクションを正しく理解できませんでした😢
Levi was made into a total idiot in this episode. Your plan is to strip a bomb to immortal guy, sit RIGHT NEXT TO IT and keep torturing him so he would want to end this suffering? You entrusted your life in his hands, not the other way around!
He's blinded by his hatred. He thought Zeke is just a one dimensional bad guy who loves to see people suffering and would place his own survival on top of all, thus underestimate how much resolve Zeke has. Kind of like how most audiences thought in the beginning.
@@henry_tsai Levi is smarter than this. Hate didn't blind him from rescuing Eren from Annie, or from defeating the beast titan but not killing him, or from not chasing Kenny. Just slicing him without a bomb would be enough to prevent him from transforming.
@@Сайтамен But hate prevented him from dig more into who Zeke is. When they were talking about what happened in Connie's village Levi simply concluded that Zeke lacks sympathy and is a total trash, which leads to Levi overlook the possibility of Zeke willing to sacrifice all for his plan, thus thinking a bomb in his belly is a good idea.
@@henry_tsai you don't need to dig into your enemy's personally to not give him a bomb trigger...
If you got a titan power, and in your final year, you still have a important dream that can save whole humanity need to come true, will you choose ignite the thunder spear?
Don't tell me "Yes I will" because you are not Zeke...
Can we not criticize Grisha WHOSE SISTER WAS EATEN BY DOGS you do not grow from that trauma y’all something like that happens to you, you’re damn near permanently jumped-start from children mentality to dark/gloom adult.
Dude lost his sister and its high key his fault. It makes sense for him to have anti-marley hatred and everything he does from then on out is for that purpose.
Also ladies, eren was referencing the scene where he was crying to historia telling her to eat him and how he shouldn’t have been born.
You remember?
Yes you can. I understand to understand Grishas attitude towards the situation but saying that Grishas actions were justified after Zeke asked him whether or not he cares about him dying or not he does not respond with being caring but skipping the question and arguing that he did nothing wrong "sending his sister to death". It is a cruel world man.
Magy❤
Eren's plan is so much better you'll see 🤣🤣
Tragic upbringing for both brothers
Eren had a good upbringing
I admit I'm a little confused about you saying you can understand Zeke, Magy. Because HE was the one who turned his own parents IN to the Marleyan's and because of it his mother was turned into a titan and his father was spared by the owl and given the attack titan powers.
So I was just wondering what it was that you understood. "How Zeke is" Could you please clarify?? Because he doesn't actually hate Marleyan's. Like at all. He's not close to anywhere near as extreme as Gabi is in her hatred of Eldian's, but he doesn't like them any less or more than Marleyan's. Everything he's doing is based in logical data, not emotional attachment.
She understands the position he was in, how everyone was pressuring him from all sides.
Huh? Are you serious? It's very easy to empathize with Zeke and how he feels after how he was treated as a child. Bro is out here writing novels not understanding a very basic comment
@@vicc6790 "Writing novels."?? Bruh, the comment was said at a very strange part. It wasn't a generalized comment about understanding Zeke "in general" as you seem to think. They said this in response to the hatred that both sides are perpetuating. It wasn't just a simple comment. It was said for a specific reason and considering what I said, it doesn't add up. They think Zeke hates Eldians. That's why they said they understood him. Because like Gabi, he was raised with the same hatred as her. So I clarified that he didn't betray Marley because he hates them.
Marley deserve what they get.