She's here yay man i'm tried but also yeah I forgot the fish nets in her poster image my bad ill fix it later anyway fingers super crossed this is the LAST ONE id rather have a trailer or like one of those gifs they do
You gotta really say I'm enjoying these redesigns. To be honest I haven't really had a problem with the official the official redesigns will accept for angel does cause I do not like those white gloves,, But watching you describe your problems with the designs yeah I can see why most people wouldn't like them anywho great job in I'm in I'm still looking for 2 hazben hotel
One of my most significant issues with the Hazbin Hotel designs is how so many of Vivziepop’s characters don’t look like they’re from their time. It’s hard to pinpoint when some of her characters died because they either barely or don’t dress like from their time. It’s disappointing since she could’ve done a lot with time-accurate designs.
@@LovesArt23 Considering how many artists I’ve seen redesign her characters to be more time-accurate, I definitely believe Vivziepop could’ve done the same. There are plenty of images on the internet that can be used as references to make the outfits more accurate. If other people can do research to make the outfits more accurate so can Vivziepop.
Yeah, while I do agree that it kinda sucks that the hazbin hotel characters don’t look like they’re from their time. I’m hoping that there might be a story reason for this, like that they first arrived in time period accurate clothes but some demons can choose to change their outfits if they want. Like I saw one animatic with vox and there was a flashback scene where vox’s head resembled an actual 50s tv. So I think maybe that’s what Viv is going for, and perhaps all the rings have a “color motif’ like the von eldritch family have lots of green and teal in their design, the lust ring has a bunch of pinks and purples, the wrath ring is very orange, and the pride ring has red. While I do see where people are coming from (and do agree with some of the criticisms) I try to keep in open mind because there could be a story reason, like RWBY ice queendom’s designs for the characters in the dream world were first revealed there were some complaints but once the anime aired the designs made more sense. I do agree with your points about design and story.
Ngl, i think her promo art was more of a finalized design than a redesign, besides im glad they didn't really change much outside of her face shape. That being said, I FRIKKIN LOVE THIS REDESIGNNNNNNNNNN
@@LovesArt23 It's kinda like Miraculous where the writing of a character (or in this case design) is better than the others (and not necessarily good) because they didn't fuckin touch it, meaning they didn't have the chance to mess it up.
Thank you its a style I wish I could get into but gothic 70s chic is more my comfort level XD but yeah I'm getting really tired of the characters not referencing the time periods they come from like I dont need much just add a few things its all these designs could need
I LOVE this design, not only because I want to get into punk, but also because it gave me an amazing idea. What if Charlie and the hotel employees had blue uniforms? The angels in Helluva Boss had A LOT of blue in their designs, so it would make sense that Charlie would pull from that. The inside of the hotel itself could also be blue/white/gold and look super pretty. On top of that, what if the morally corrupt characters kept their red color palettes? So Alastor would be completely black/red, but Angel would stay light pink since he shows hints of wanting to change. It would provide a lot of visual storytelling, especially if characters changed colors gradually throughout the series. Just an idea though!
What if instead of using the blue,gold, and white color scheme for the uniforms, they could make uniforms based off they’re kind of demon, with those colors as hints? For example, because angel dust is a spider demon, he would have a uniform that would have some sort of connection with spiders, and then tint it with blue gold and white, maybe even other pastels!
It's funny how you are more able to make a design based on the aesthetic and time it was supposed to be and Viv looks like she doesn't even care!I am very glad to see you actually take time for the designs! They are great!!
Thank you and yeah i remember one tumblr blog had said Viv is the type to draw based on how she feels or she bases characters off songs and nothing else and thank you its been alot of fun and I really like that more ppl are hearing how research is important when character designing its something i wish my art school had taught me
As a character designer myself it's just sad.When making a character with specific details you need to do at least some research to let your audience know what's their type. It's literally what character design is all about! Viv has disappointed me with her final designs when the Alastor redesign dropped. I'm very glad though you get what a character should really be! Viv should take some lessons from fans!
"The story is what's important not the designs!" The designs can help push the story! They can give us a glimpse into their personality, their lifestyle, interests! Sometimes a design can subvert the viewer (and in world characters') expectations for someone! A change in design can help reflect a change in the character!
I'm glad it got addressed that Cherri's other shoe was in fact a shoe but just a flat verses a boot. It was such a common mistake/assumption so the fact its mentioned is good. But yeah, it means they literally changed nothing. X"D
I think this re redesign shows that you can use the elements from the original designs to make good new ones but Viv either doesn't know how or doesn't want to and I don't know which I prefer. I like that you still mostly used reds but you also added pops of yellow and green, drawing attention to certain parts of Cherri and making her stand out
As always, killing it with the outfits! I love how you can actually tell what time period your redesigns are from while still conveying so much personality. I think Cherri's hair gradient thing is strange because the main part goes from pink to yellow but the ponytail goes from yellow to pink (if she puts her hair down the colourists just have to guess I'm assuming). Love that you made her blonde roots look like an explosion and kept her bomb fuse hair (and making the fuse part actually look like fire!)
Thank you and yeah the more I saw it the more i was like Mmmm why is her pony tail blond on top bur omg yeah I didn't even think of what it could like when its down hopefully that never happens and lol yeah she has alot of fire and explosion themes so why not make her hair like one
Yeah I never understood that part! Whenever I drew her, I just did pink to yellow for both parts. I kind of get why I guess, cause the huge glob of pink doesn't look the greatest but at least you know how the hair actually works.
As someone that loves character design I was soo satisfied with this redesign you made of her, the whole red punk palette you made of cherrie bomb really justified her name, instead of being another "pink/white/yellow" demon in the series. Love it!! :]
Everytime I watch a video of yours you almost always say "I'm sorry this took so long". It's been a week! Give yourself some leeway! You are doing incredible pumping out content so fast for us. Enjoy your spooky break and have fun and be kinder to yourself in terms of work. And once again incredible redesign I honestly think the official cherri is boring.
Lol yeah I tend to think its been longer than it has or that because I did another character first after I said id do someone else I feel the need to apologize and thank you I'm excited to see all art and enjoy some time with family even if they drive me crazy XD
Maybe Cherri's battle jacket could have the names/symbols of overlords/high ranking demons she's killed? Sorta a "if you mess with me know I've taken down these guys" thing
It’s really easy to “loose” the original Cherry among all the other “red/light yellow/white” characters and it’s a shame because Cherry has an actual reason to include all those colors (like… it’s in her name, she’s supposed to resemble fire and explosions). Your design is really fun tho, gives me Arcane Jinx’s vibe❤️ PS. I really think that most of Viv’s designs have the same problem: they were done before the story and aesthetic for them was created. Basically, you get the feeling that they were done backwards - I myself can see that problem with my old OC designs that have come through a lot of reincarnations without a clear direction behind them
This redesign is incredible, faithful to the original but improving all its faults. Fun fact: Viv is apparently also planning for Cherri to be Australian in the series as well.
It is true that Cherri Bomb has a punk rock vibe going on. So that the fact you gave her a re-redesign of her that matches the period that cherri bomb is from.
Your designs are so rad. I think it’s really cool how you research the time periods and fashion, and you’re really good at outfit design imo. Your color choices are really fun and stand out a lot more than the hazbin red lol. Hope you have a good time on your vacation!
Thank you and ive just always enjoyed researching our past in anway be it fashion history or just random things that happened back then I find it all really helpful and I hope so too not used to flying for so long XD
Personally, you did justice on her for sure! Look out King Explosion Murderer, cause Cherri still taking more then just your title! All Is left Is Katie and Tom while the other remainers cause still be "bonuses". I still wanna see Helluva Boss their own redesigns someday In the further future!
@@LovesArt23 Cool! Who your gonna do first In the Helluva Universe? We're gonna redesign Ozzie mostly his face, due to the face despite still looks like a "shadowy angel".
You have some of my favorite ever redesigns I can't even put it into words- it just really feels like you care about and pay attention to what the characters are supposed to be rather than whatever you want them to be if that makes sense? Also, small, but I love how her ponytail thing without the gradients looks more like an explosion- really fitting of the character
Thank you and yeah i like to do a 50/50 of what I think might look good and what fans have asked for or said they think would look good since the fans have known these characters for almost 4 yrs now
thank you for saying such bold and risky stuff about viv! i am so tired of people saying the designs still looks so good, like?? guys?? have you seen her old character designs?? they were so much colofurl, meaningful, espectacular! these "redesigns" are the pilot designs made more complex, or some more simple but keeping the same or some dont even look different! what the heck viv? seriously, the redesigns you are making are absolutely gorgeous and always bring to life the inspiration viv says she uses for the characters and dont let me start to talk about the colors cause OH BOY THESE ARE MAGNIFICENT! you actually are able to make the whole cast of characters seem to belong to the same universe without having to tie all of them with only one color pallette seriously these re re designs are looking so good! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
As someone who has been around awhile and remembers Viv's webcomics... People have always said Viv's strong point is her style. She has a colourful and interesting art style especially with the sharp and bouncy angles. But she's always had weird/bad character design choices. Sometimes it works and you get a character who is fun to look at. Other times it's just messy and chaotic to the point of being nonsensical. It makes sense in the long run if you look at her old work and realize she's not a good writer. She can't finish character arcs or focus on plot points before quickly moving onto the next thing just because she finds it more interesting. She's less of a story writer and more of a doodle machine. She can draw a bunch of characters all day long in vignettes, but the actual story is less of an actual story and more of just a bunch of headcanons rattling around.
As an Australian I'm a little nervous about Cherry being Aussie. I don't want her speech and slang to be cheesy and groan inducing. But I would've loved to see Vivi give her a perm or a mullet, haha. And I love your re-design so much
it feels like sometimes Viv is trying to do a "everyone uses the same/similar color pallet" thing that suff like YTTD did, but she fundamentally misunderstands how those color pallets operate and as results makes a mess. the only issue with this way of looking at it, is there are a few characters who completely ignore this pattern (Vox specifically) and as results those few who do have different colors look wildly out of place. i don't think the colors is an issue with her art because it's clear via Helluva Boss that she's capable of using other colors- she's doing this on purpose for some fucking reason??? and i think it's because she wants to use that everyone shares colors thing. she just has no clue how to execute that
I so hope that the characters get outfit changes at least a few times (or even new outfits for S2 assuming we get one) because even though I don't mind some of them, I think them interacting with each other and the backgrounds is going to get confusing and worst case scenario, annoying. It's too late to change any of the designs I imagine but hopefully Viv can make better designs for things in the future. Also you were so right about that one shade of red and it actually annoys me. I remember drawing Husk once as well as Charlie in the past and them having similar but still pretty different shades of red. Like put next to each other it was clear that Charlie's red was more pink and Husk's red was more pure red. Like, Viv knows she's not confined to a certain number of colors right (I mean I sure hope she isn't)?
i think the redesign looks cool!, i love it a lot especially since cherri is my favorite character. i expected there to be a little bit of pink in the redesign you made but i ain't complaining, i adore the punk 1980's aesthetic and it's makin me inspired to draw something similar to that i also wish there was more colors in hazbin hotel, especially since there's just so many awesome background characters in helluva boss that proves vivzie is capable of designs without that specific shade or red and other colors in general,,
I can definitely agree on what you said in the video for Cherri's design, the moment you mentioned "Cherri's time period is 80s punk rock". When I look at Cherri and the fashion of the time period she's supposed to based on, yea I don't see any relations to punk rock whatsoever minus the teared up pants and that's it
I'll be completely honest and say that I love this design! You totally capture the "punk" vibe with it, liek it really says a lot about her character, and the colors really match too! I hope to see more of your redesigns on the future (:
OMG CHERRI LOOKS GORGEOUS :0 I wasn't too "wowwed" by her official design(even if it still looks ok) but HOLY SHIT your redesign looks amazing!(but maybe that's jsut my love for punk fashion taking over lol) On the topic of the new cannon designs for the cast... I'm not too impressed either. I love the color red, but in Hazbin Hotel... it's just too much. I honestly wouldn't want to buy merch of the characters in their current designs, and with their current track record... I'm not going to get my hopes up if they change outfits during the show.(No hate to Viv and her crew, obviously. I know that they've been hard at work but that doesn't stop me from being disappointed.)
Your redesign of Cherri Bomb looks awesome! She looks like she's ready to kick some butt and take names all while expressing herself with her style. Just another awesome video. Thanks for taking the time to make these even though you need a break from Hazbin. I'm sure all your viewers (myself included) appreciate it a lot.
Happy to still keep surprising ppl keeps me on my toes I always worry ill fall behind with other creators or that ill get to comfortable and lose that drive to do better
I love the redesign. You took the cherry bomb name and made it a realized theme . Its not too subtle or too on the nose. I like the more varied pallet too, you used more of a burgundy here and there with some cherry reds too. The darker yellow here and there to carry the eye was a good touch too. And thank you for simplifying the tight rips. I still say even as is , this one is easier to animate than the predecessor. Clear color placement, no parts are lost on each other, soothing that fits the era and style bit still makes sense. (You made her heels the same size despite being different shoes thank you. ) and she just has a lot more personality here. You made her explosive. I think one of my favorite parts is the hair. You made it look like a lit fuse. And the x's feel like a better suit foe her than Vaggie. The tattoos font me me cry either. Over all its awesome. Honestly, cherri is one of my least liked characters and designs from said show. The ponytail could have looked like an explosion and she could ahev had more of a bomb theme , but all we got was red-pink-yellow pallet swap number 5. Not to mention she looks both like hell to animate and confusing to draw. A long pony tail on a stick holder with long hair and they often conflict if you aren't careful. The gradient does not help. Removing the lower hair and making it a full on pony tail was a good idea on tour redesign. There needs to be more of a conversation about the misuse of red here. Viv honestly doesn't use a variety of red or reddish-pinks. She uses the exact same one without explanation despite it either blending a character into the background, making these complicated characters somehow look the exact same because she honestly copies and pastes pallets, and a he refuses to acknowledge other values and colors on the color wheel. Its digital art, she has access to every color imaginable. But she uses the same seven colors nearly every time. I've seen biblical paintings that depicted hell as far more colorful than she does. I look at her work and it gives me eye strain as well as color deprivation because I start seeing green shortly after. That is a problem. Plenty of shows have worked with a limited pallet and had far better placement/usage than this. And is she allergic to color theory? Blue and green? I know for a fact that is one of the first things you learn in art school. Or did she completely disregard those classes for a passion project shes got her fans to pay for? And no amount of "its a pilot" or "its her art style" or "You're just jealous" or fandom enabling will change that. The red is a legitimate problem, ans a paying network needs to step in because its no longer just for the fans anymore, its for a general audience that doesn't feel obligated to ignore or deal with it. They vote with their views.
X-Men Evolution was like that, like the outfits were rarely ever changed except when they were doing stuff like parties and such and while it made sense for Toad to not change his clothes that much (Fred as well) it didn't make much sense for the others.... With that aside, I love this redesign! Punk fashion is always amazing
I love how her arms look singed, even though you said she works with explosives, because in Hell, I would imagine that everyone would have scars or other things that hint or remind them of their past lives. It is a nice nod to her character.
I love this! Like, Really Really Love it!! The outfit, the hair, the mmmm! It gives her so much more personality than her old one!! And I love how she looks punk and that You know it's punk!!! This is my favorite by far with your redesigns! Hope you have a amazing vacation! ^>^
Okay it looks so much better and when I saw the community tab about telling the differences I was literally getting confused to the point I gave up I liked how it stands out more darker reddish tones and it really fits to the time period she is in so I really loved it! 👍
Thank you and lol sorry about that really thought they only changed her sock to a shoe XD but in my defense most of cherris addict scenes didnt show that it was now a shoe other than that 1 sec and you'll miss it moment
@@LovesArt23 ah I see thx and no need to apologize it has been awhile since I last seen some Helluva boss and Hazbin hotel content for awhile (besides the season two episode with stolas-) from Viv and her team but I completely understand it will take awhile for them to make the new episode so yeah
im pretty sure her hair was supposed to represent a bomb being lit. Hence the name "cherri bomb". But despite that, I'm happy to see you redesign this character because youre right about everyone having the same color palette.
This version of cherry makes me think she southern I don't know why and I think she would yell at me if I didn't season my food enough but yeah 100% love this
The SASS today! Anyways, have fun on your trip, cherri looks amazing great job as always. I just saw the Frankie post and my heart is screaming, she was my favorite as a kid!
Lol yeah I'm extremely tired of having to repeat my self when I talk abouf HH (not to you guys just like in general) that i couldn't hold the sass in XD and Thank you i hope so too I cant wait to see all the art and city's And Frankie was probably my third fav our of the main cast like 1.lagoona 2.Cleo 3.Frankie 4.clawdeen 5. Draculura 6. Ghoula (wasnt enough screen time or dolls for me to kniw if i liked her enough)
I'm partial to Cherri just because she's a fun character, but WOW does you're redesign have personality. It's more stylized (independently of the rest of the world), better color ratios- everything. If I were to change anything, maybe the skin tone? I almost prefer the color you have on her hands/chest/leg. Personally, I think that softer skin-tone grey would make the other colors pop even more and make her less human. But das me. Awesome job regardless :D
Yeah I wanted to use the skin tone I used in my old deisgn but alot of ppl where 50/50 on it and I didnt need the race comments I got enough stuff going on I don't need ppl arguing
YOOOOOOO!! CHERRI LOOKS SO BADASS! I FRICKIN LUV HER SO MUCH AND SHE'S MY FAVORITE HAZBIN HOTEL CHARACTER! Well besides Charlie but still I love your re-redesign of Cherri Bomb!😁😍
This re-redesign actually inspired me to redesign my OC to be a bit more punk. I'd also like to say, keep up the great work, I absolutely love your art.
I love how so many of these redesigns are less overhauls and just improvements of what we loved. I love her new design better than the old one honestly.
Not gonna lie I really love how you make Cherry bomb pop out with this design. I especially love how you make the back of her hair design so fluffy and more like an explosion I really like that. ^w^
I swear every video I watch of your art, I listen so intensely to your intro's and your explanation. But, the moment your redesign sketch pops up on the screen, I'm absolutely flabbergasted every time! You're definitely my favourite artist! I just found your video today. :D (I LOVE your hazbin hotel redesigns! ❤)
There wasn’t much of a change to her design but I’m glad she’s still the same savage and badass Cherri Bomb we all know and love and can’t wait to see more chaos happening. 🍒💣💥
The big thing that bothers me about the canon designs are the excessive details (and the colours, but you already said it all perfectly) All the stripes, bows, rips etc are just not animation friendly. In 3D and flash sure, but for hand drawn 2D it's a nightmare! The characters don't NEED all those details to communicate what they're about to the audience
Hey if you need a break from the stuff, take it. Nothing sucks worse than working yourself into a massive burnout. But I do got to say I love this redesign it's so wacky and in your face in the more lovely way. I also love all the research you do for these different time period outfits they're just so lovely to hear about ^_^
Hi! This was a great breakdown on what's lacking in the designs of Vivziepop. I think for your re-redesign there's some things I'd like to say. I absolutely love the jacket idea! It works really well punkrock wise! I do think there's one big problem here: Way too many details. This is an animation show and everything should be efficient to animate, this design is completely packed with details and patterns to keep track of. Your point on hazbin hotel's use of "red" is completely valid and a more reddish color should be added. However, colors should still fit within the colorscheme. The red you used here doesn't fit that well because it's very saturated. Besides that, it's also good to use limited color. I think the yellow and green are a bit too much, using just yellow with a range of reds would probably work better. The hair in the original design is very simplified and thus easy to animate, and although yours looks great as an illustration, it would be a lot more difficult to keep track of. I really like the gradient in it tho! Very punkrocky!! There's loads of elements that you came up with that work really well and the team should definitely considering!
I completely agree with you Loves Art23! Vivziepop should’ve put more research and designing when it came to her characters. And the other problem for me is that apart from Charlie, Vaggie, Angel Dust and Alastor we don’t know anything about the other characters other then when they died. Like take Husk, we don’t know anything about him other then he died in the 70’s. I mean there was a rumour awhile back about Husk being a former war veteran. Which would’ve been an interesting concept to explore. But nope, Viv had to toss that out of the window!
Yeah i noticed that as well after making theses videos like nearly every characters bios or lore lessens the further we get away from the main cast like Angel dust has so much stuff he starting to feel over developed vaggies a got a good size of info charlie good but not much Alastor makes sense not have so much since hes mysterious husk niffty sir p and cherri nothing theres nothing in there lore or bio thats actually decent info
@@LovesArt23 Exactly! I mean, if you want your audience to be interested about your characters, you're going have to give them some background information. Otherwise, they're uninteresting. Take Helluva Boss for example, it's got great interesting characters and lots of general lore to expand upon. I don't hate Hazbin Hotel, but I'd say I'm not as big a fan of it when it was first released. I'm still going to watch it when it comes out of course.
But think about it. If Husk was a veteran, he would have had something military on him like Tom Trench. I like Charles J Thomas's theory about Husk being a magician wanna-be kid neglected by his hazzard addicted parents. Despite learning all he needed to be a magician Husk's parents were only giving him attention when he could use his knowledge for hazard stuff. So he became a resentful alkohol addict who first started drinking to open up and then to forget that he is a mess
Mmm not really if you put them side by side all they really did was take away her spender and add some effect on her top and hip I mean they did give her a shoe but it's still drawn similar to old sock and like one color change and I'm pretty sure vaggies the one who got the biggest change
Your cherri design looks amazing and agree with your points i like to draw outfits and Cheri outfit gives me headache to study and i agree with everyone getting red treatment has TOO much of same color of red if they wanted to sneak red in the redesigns they could of have used different shades of red or different colors and i hope the backgrounds will have different colors other than red but otherwise your video had good points!
Cherri is really my favorite character and you made her even prettier than before! I've always loved your videos ever since I found it cause your designs are SO COOL! Can't wait for you to come back! ❤
I also used to look up to Viv and used to be in love with her designs and animation but now i lost all my respect to her, and after a few re-watching I've noticed alot of problems with her writing and after learning about hh character information and what time period they are supposed to be from it and seeing how they look nothing like it ( i am a bit of a fashion history nerd myself) and how she doesn't seem to research the asstetic she's supposed to be refrising and how she keeps using the same colours and just like you i kept getting dispointed after every "redesign" and don't understand how can people still praise this mess , that's the biggest issue with Viv and her fan's her fan's are tooo protective of her and come after and attack anyone who dares try to give Viv a tiny bit of criticism and seem to have this werid parasocial realationship with her and seem to think that she is that perfect angle who can't hurt a fly it's probably why she would never improve as an artist or a writer bec she knows people would just eat it up for her, honestly the thing i somewhat like about HH is that the settings allow me to go absolutely wild with my oc's design but THAT'S IT , i no longer care about the characters and I don't trust Viv to be a good writer and is having my doubts about her as a person( 'cough' the eren situation 'cough' ) , same with HB but that's a whole other can of worms Anyway amazing design as always i really love how you made chiires hair it looks so much better and i love the different boots as the one Heald boot and the flat shoe look were so uncomfortable for me to look at and really made the design so annoying, and i love that you gave her a TRUE punk look 👍 your one of my favourite UA-cam artists 💝, have fun in your viction
4:22 Wow! That really IS a big RED flag!!! Eh? Eh? ;D eh... Really love this design, I love it's loudness. Viv's character designs tend to be loud, but not in a good way. Not only is it done well here, but as the character's name is literally Cherri Bomb she should look loud (compared to everyone else at least)
Looks so sick! I'm guessing for what Viv was going for in the og when she made her hair like that was to try and make it kind of like Joan Jett's hair in the 80s, but just ultimately flopped because of how the high ponytail wasn't necessary. I love her hair, just it never really screamed 80s to me and more of a 2000's look kind of. You did amazing on showing on what the 80s were about in the redesign of yours! As someone who absolutely loves 80s fashion and overall aesthetic, you killed it with the design! I guess the only thing that had me tilting my head to the side a little bit was the green. I didn't think that green would be a color of your choice when it came to redesigning Cherri, but it doesn't bother me too much. It really does look really good! I think I'd actually like to make fanart of your design, if you don't mind. Keep up the great work!❤💥🍒
Thank you and me too 80s fashion is my bread im butter ive worked on a few shows in my theater days and it was the best time of my life and HECK yeah you can make fan art 💞💞💞
I needed this today, I love this redesign so much, she’s giving me that joan Jett vibe while her old design was more Avril Lavigne. Also YES I’m trying so hard to be excited, but these redesigns are weighing me down. I’m just gonna take a break and have some me time lol. Have fun on your trip ❤
Have fun on vacation! I love how she has a few missing teeth, it's tiny details like that that make me fall in love with your designs. Dont burn yourself out with this, if you need a break please take it.
Honestly, I also feel very disappointed with the designs, like they have such a good concept and they are not taking advantage of it. I tu sed to look up to Viv too, she is what got me into design and I really thank her for that. But man you did a great job, the colors are great and the idea of the back of the jacket it’s so creative. I hope you have a nice trip by the way
Thank you and yes I wont ever forget how Vivs work inspired me and ill always have that soft sport for it but its easy to see Viv hasn't felt the need to improve anymore which worries me for her future projects. Thank you i hope so too ive never flown so far before really hoping i can sleep through all of it XD
Viv sounds like a nightmare to work with from her designs alone. Imagine actually caring about accuracy, and colors, and... character design, and your boss just *doesn't.*
When you said that you need a break from Hazbin Hotel. I can relate! I mean I haven't done any redesigns for the show or anything. Just doing something for a LONG time (like you doing these re-redesigns) can be exhausting. And you get that feeling that what you make looks... Forced. So I completely understand! (I hope my comment is easy to understand, English isn't my main language and sometimes I just stop thinking what I'm writing bruh) Anyway! I can't wait for the next video about monster high! And have a nice trip!
One of the reasons I love Helluva over Hazbin Hotel in terms of characters is actually for the reason you mentioned here. All of HB’s characters look like they were created for the story, rather than the other way around. Hazbin, as of now at least, feels like a collection of loose OCs who existed in the same mostly generic setting and were shoehorned into a linear story.
Viv's designs look like they were drawn by a middle schooler... and she's had these characters since she was in middle school, you think they'd be better now that shes an adult with 2 successful series. Not only are the designs bad, but if we're relying on the writing, that's also bad from what we've seen of HB. I'm lowkey worried the humor will be similar to Villainous, which don't get me wrong I LOVED that show when I was a kid. But thats a kid's show, and the episodes are very short, so a whole 30 minutes of silly dick jokes would be absolute torture. Rewatching the Pilot, the jokes weren't that funny, and it was VERY fast paced. I enjoyed it when it came out, but I was literally 14. My humor has changed since then, and honestly with each passing year my hopes for this show lower. I'm really hoping the TV show that picked up on this project does more justice. (ALSO I feel I should mention that I have no hate for the artists who work on HH and HB. They are all SUPER talented and I could never animate something so smoothly.)
YYYOOOOOO!!! i just discovered you! imma watch all of your videos now ^^ And, omagosh, your Cherry's redesing look great, i agree with so much you've done with her. Awesome! Imma fanart it :*
She's here yay man i'm tried but also yeah I forgot the fish nets in her poster image my bad ill fix it later anyway fingers super crossed this is the LAST ONE id rather have a trailer or like one of those gifs they do
You gotta really say I'm enjoying these redesigns. To be honest I haven't really had a problem with the official the official redesigns will accept for angel does cause I do not like those white gloves,, But watching you describe your problems with the designs yeah I can see why most people wouldn't like them anywho great job in I'm in I'm still looking for 2 hazben hotel
Good redesign. Though I would keep the colour of the eye
I love that you changed the pose to show more of her personality
One of my most significant issues with the Hazbin Hotel designs is how so many of Vivziepop’s characters don’t look like they’re from their time. It’s hard to pinpoint when some of her characters died because they either barely or don’t dress like from their time. It’s disappointing since she could’ve done a lot with time-accurate designs.
Yes exactly theres a million way she could have made theses charActers look like more like there time period like it can not be that hard it can't
@@LovesArt23 Considering how many artists I’ve seen redesign her characters to be more time-accurate, I definitely believe Vivziepop could’ve done the same. There are plenty of images on the internet that can be used as references to make the outfits more accurate. If other people can do research to make the outfits more accurate so can Vivziepop.
I don't like charlie,niffty and vaggie's design it's just red.i hate it.
Yeah, while I do agree that it kinda sucks that the hazbin hotel characters don’t look like they’re from their time. I’m hoping that there might be a story reason for this, like that they first arrived in time period accurate clothes but some demons can choose to change their outfits if they want. Like I saw one animatic with vox and there was a flashback scene where vox’s head resembled an actual 50s tv. So I think maybe that’s what Viv is going for, and perhaps all the rings have a “color motif’ like the von eldritch family have lots of green and teal in their design, the lust ring has a bunch of pinks and purples, the wrath ring is very orange, and the pride ring has red. While I do see where people are coming from (and do agree with some of the criticisms) I try to keep in open mind because there could be a story reason, like RWBY ice queendom’s designs for the characters in the dream world were first revealed there were some complaints but once the anime aired the designs made more sense. I do agree with your points about design and story.
@@LovesArt23 ok so uhh the skin color looks the same because viv really likes pink and yellow
Ngl, i think her promo art was more of a finalized design than a redesign, besides im glad they didn't really change much outside of her face shape. That being said, I FRIKKIN LOVE THIS REDESIGNNNNNNNNNN
Yeah I just kept seeing ppl in the comments say her redesign looks good and im like do i need glasses what redesign and lol Thank you
@@LovesArt23 It's kinda like Miraculous where the writing of a character (or in this case design) is better than the others (and not necessarily good) because they didn't fuckin touch it, meaning they didn't have the chance to mess it up.
Exactly
This channel is such a breath of fresh air to hear a fan actually give criticism without caring about people whining about being mean
I like it. You captured the real 80s punk style. Your redesign of Cherri looks like she’s from her time period.
Thank you its a style I wish I could get into but gothic 70s chic is more my comfort level XD but yeah I'm getting really tired of the characters not referencing the time periods they come from like I dont need much just add a few things its all these designs could need
I LOVE this design, not only because I want to get into punk, but also because it gave me an amazing idea.
What if Charlie and the hotel employees had blue uniforms? The angels in Helluva Boss had A LOT of blue in their designs, so it would make sense that Charlie would pull from that. The inside of the hotel itself could also be blue/white/gold and look super pretty.
On top of that, what if the morally corrupt characters kept their red color palettes? So Alastor would be completely black/red, but Angel would stay light pink since he shows hints of wanting to change. It would provide a lot of visual storytelling, especially if characters changed colors gradually throughout the series. Just an idea though!
What if instead of using the blue,gold, and white color scheme for the uniforms, they could make uniforms based off they’re kind of demon, with those colors as hints? For example, because angel dust is a spider demon, he would have a uniform that would have some sort of connection with spiders, and then tint it with blue gold and white, maybe even other pastels!
nice idea!!
This sounds like an amazing and awesome idea
It's funny how you are more able to make a design based on the aesthetic and time it was supposed to be and Viv looks like she doesn't even care!I am very glad to see you actually take time for the designs! They are great!!
Thank you and yeah i remember one tumblr blog had said Viv is the type to draw based on how she feels or she bases characters off songs and nothing else and thank you its been alot of fun and I really like that more ppl are hearing how research is important when character designing its something i wish my art school had taught me
As a character designer myself it's just sad.When making a character with specific details you need to do at least some research to let your audience know what's their type. It's literally what character design is all about! Viv has disappointed me with her final designs when the Alastor redesign dropped. I'm very glad though you get what a character should really be! Viv should take some lessons from fans!
"The story is what's important not the designs!"
The designs can help push the story!
They can give us a glimpse into their personality, their lifestyle, interests!
Sometimes a design can subvert the viewer (and in world characters') expectations for someone!
A change in design can help reflect a change in the character!
I'm glad it got addressed that Cherri's other shoe was in fact a shoe but just a flat verses a boot. It was such a common mistake/assumption so the fact its mentioned is good. But yeah, it means they literally changed nothing. X"D
I think this re redesign shows that you can use the elements from the original designs to make good new ones but Viv either doesn't know how or doesn't want to and I don't know which I prefer. I like that you still mostly used reds but you also added pops of yellow and green, drawing attention to certain parts of Cherri and making her stand out
Thank you i might do a video on how the HH cast could the team have done if they where so set in keeping the originals
As always, killing it with the outfits! I love how you can actually tell what time period your redesigns are from while still conveying so much personality.
I think Cherri's hair gradient thing is strange because the main part goes from pink to yellow but the ponytail goes from yellow to pink (if she puts her hair down the colourists just have to guess I'm assuming). Love that you made her blonde roots look like an explosion and kept her bomb fuse hair (and making the fuse part actually look like fire!)
Thank you and yeah the more I saw it the more i was like Mmmm why is her pony tail blond on top bur omg yeah I didn't even think of what it could like when its down hopefully that never happens and lol yeah she has alot of fire and explosion themes so why not make her hair like one
Yeah I never understood that part! Whenever I drew her, I just did pink to yellow for both parts. I kind of get why I guess, cause the huge glob of pink doesn't look the greatest but at least you know how the hair actually works.
As someone that loves character design I was soo satisfied with this redesign you made of her, the whole red punk palette you made of cherrie bomb really justified her name, instead of being another "pink/white/yellow" demon in the series.
Love it!! :]
thank you and yeah I always thought her name didn't fit her design
Everytime I watch a video of yours you almost always say "I'm sorry this took so long". It's been a week! Give yourself some leeway! You are doing incredible pumping out content so fast for us. Enjoy your spooky break and have fun and be kinder to yourself in terms of work. And once again incredible redesign I honestly think the official cherri is boring.
Lol yeah I tend to think its been longer than it has or that because I did another character first after I said id do someone else I feel the need to apologize and thank you I'm excited to see all art and enjoy some time with family even if they drive me crazy XD
Maybe Cherri's battle jacket could have the names/symbols of overlords/high ranking demons she's killed? Sorta a "if you mess with me know I've taken down these guys" thing
It’s really easy to “loose” the original Cherry among all the other “red/light yellow/white” characters and it’s a shame because Cherry has an actual reason to include all those colors (like… it’s in her name, she’s supposed to resemble fire and explosions). Your design is really fun tho, gives me Arcane Jinx’s vibe❤️
PS. I really think that most of Viv’s designs have the same problem: they were done before the story and aesthetic for them was created. Basically, you get the feeling that they were done backwards - I myself can see that problem with my old OC designs that have come through a lot of reincarnations without a clear direction behind them
This redesign is incredible, faithful to the original but improving all its faults.
Fun fact: Viv is apparently also planning for Cherri to be Australian in the series as well.
It is true that Cherri Bomb has a punk rock vibe going on. So that the fact you gave her a re-redesign of her that matches the period that cherri bomb is from.
Your designs are so rad. I think it’s really cool how you research the time periods and fashion, and you’re really good at outfit design imo. Your color choices are really fun and stand out a lot more than the hazbin red lol. Hope you have a good time on your vacation!
Thank you and ive just always enjoyed researching our past in anway be it fashion history or just random things that happened back then I find it all really helpful and I hope so too not used to flying for so long XD
The design looks awesome! Can't wait for your Frankie-redesign
Thank you and there might be a sneak peek today ⚡
Gotta say, her redesign looks great and it rocks (also have fun on your trip)
Thank you and I hope so ive never gone out so far so I but nervous 😓
@@LovesArt23 it's okay to be a little nervous, but always think of some fun stuff along the way (hope the pep talk helps)
This redesign screams Fire! I love it. It really captures her name to me more so than the original.
Personally, you did justice on her for sure! Look out King Explosion Murderer, cause Cherri still taking more then just your title!
All Is left Is Katie and Tom while the other remainers cause still be "bonuses". I still wanna see Helluva Boss their own redesigns someday In the further future!
Yeah if they post kate and tom I Probably wont do anything for them and start the helluvaboss re designs
@@LovesArt23 Cool! Who your gonna do first In the Helluva Universe?
We're gonna redesign Ozzie mostly his face, due to the face despite still looks like a "shadowy angel".
@@yogibear8683 either stolas or Ozzie havent settled on who will go first yet
@@LovesArt23 I'm referring to me and my crew, not you.
Are you still excited for the new upcoming Helluva Boss episode?
I for one really like that they kept the design the same but I love your redesign waaaay more great job!
Thank you and I'm ok with it it just need a bit more 80s punk other than that she's honestly fine
You have some of my favorite ever redesigns I can't even put it into words- it just really feels like you care about and pay attention to what the characters are supposed to be rather than whatever you want them to be if that makes sense? Also, small, but I love how her ponytail thing without the gradients looks more like an explosion- really fitting of the character
Thank you and yeah i like to do a 50/50 of what I think might look good and what fans have asked for or said they think would look good since the fans have known these characters for almost 4 yrs now
thank you for saying such bold and risky stuff about viv! i am so tired of people saying the designs still looks so good, like?? guys?? have you seen her old character designs?? they were so much colofurl, meaningful, espectacular! these "redesigns" are the pilot designs made more complex, or some more simple but keeping the same or some dont even look different! what the heck viv?
seriously, the redesigns you are making are absolutely gorgeous and always bring to life the inspiration viv says she uses for the characters
and dont let me start to talk about the colors cause OH BOY THESE ARE MAGNIFICENT! you actually are able to make the whole cast of characters seem to belong to the same universe without having to tie all of them with only one color pallette
seriously these re re designs are looking so good! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
I see the point you're making but if people like the new redesigns then Hey that's their opinion
As someone who has been around awhile and remembers Viv's webcomics...
People have always said Viv's strong point is her style. She has a colourful and interesting art style especially with the sharp and bouncy angles.
But she's always had weird/bad character design choices. Sometimes it works and you get a character who is fun to look at. Other times it's just messy and chaotic to the point of being nonsensical. It makes sense in the long run if you look at her old work and realize she's not a good writer. She can't finish character arcs or focus on plot points before quickly moving onto the next thing just because she finds it more interesting. She's less of a story writer and more of a doodle machine. She can draw a bunch of characters all day long in vignettes, but the actual story is less of an actual story and more of just a bunch of headcanons rattling around.
As an Australian I'm a little nervous about Cherry being Aussie. I don't want her speech and slang to be cheesy and groan inducing. But I would've loved to see Vivi give her a perm or a mullet, haha.
And I love your re-design so much
Oh my mama, I am OBSESSED with your Cherri's outfit and hair. I adore 80s fashion and you did her justice
Cherri looks so awesome! Excellent work! Have fun in Barcelona, too!
I LOVE This Girl!! Such a punk princess!, the darker colors and yellows were such a good choice
it feels like sometimes Viv is trying to do a "everyone uses the same/similar color pallet" thing that suff like YTTD did, but she fundamentally misunderstands how those color pallets operate and as results makes a mess. the only issue with this way of looking at it, is there are a few characters who completely ignore this pattern (Vox specifically) and as results those few who do have different colors look wildly out of place.
i don't think the colors is an issue with her art because it's clear via Helluva Boss that she's capable of using other colors- she's doing this on purpose for some fucking reason??? and i think it's because she wants to use that everyone shares colors thing. she just has no clue how to execute that
this is such a nice design! the style and colour palette definitely suite her personality way better
Thank you and thank you again for the color complement I was having a hard time with it 😅
@@LovesArt23 np!
I so hope that the characters get outfit changes at least a few times (or even new outfits for S2 assuming we get one) because even though I don't mind some of them, I think them interacting with each other and the backgrounds is going to get confusing and worst case scenario, annoying. It's too late to change any of the designs I imagine but hopefully Viv can make better designs for things in the future. Also you were so right about that one shade of red and it actually annoys me. I remember drawing Husk once as well as Charlie in the past and them having similar but still pretty different shades of red. Like put next to each other it was clear that Charlie's red was more pink and Husk's red was more pure red. Like, Viv knows she's not confined to a certain number of colors right (I mean I sure hope she isn't)?
your amazing redesigns only make me dread seeing the cannon designs in the actual show. awesome work as usual! :D
Don't worry once we get a trailer I just edit some shots with my designs i mean I'm gonna have to when i make my "why HH is too red" video
@@LovesArt23 ooo not I'm excited :DD
*now
Wow!! Her hair is just like an explosion!!! I love the green accents too! You’re so right about viv’s red situation
i think the redesign looks cool!, i love it a lot especially since cherri is my favorite character. i expected there to be a little bit of pink in the redesign you made but i ain't complaining, i adore the punk 1980's aesthetic and it's makin me inspired to draw something similar to that
i also wish there was more colors in hazbin hotel, especially since there's just so many awesome background characters in helluva boss that proves vivzie is capable of designs without that specific shade or red and other colors in general,,
I can definitely agree on what you said in the video for Cherri's design, the moment you mentioned "Cherri's time period is 80s punk rock". When I look at Cherri and the fashion of the time period she's supposed to based on, yea I don't see any relations to punk rock whatsoever minus the teared up pants and that's it
I'll be completely honest and say that I love this design! You totally capture the "punk" vibe with it, liek it really says a lot about her character, and the colors really match too! I hope to see more of your redesigns on the future (:
For someone who loves Punk, I do really love her design 😍 Good job
seeing all these redesign videos, I find it really cool/interesting how each character's unique, but still holding to a broader theme. Great stuff!
OMG CHERRI LOOKS GORGEOUS :0 I wasn't too "wowwed" by her official design(even if it still looks ok) but HOLY SHIT your redesign looks amazing!(but maybe that's jsut my love for punk fashion taking over lol) On the topic of the new cannon designs for the cast... I'm not too impressed either. I love the color red, but in Hazbin Hotel... it's just too much. I honestly wouldn't want to buy merch of the characters in their current designs, and with their current track record... I'm not going to get my hopes up if they change outfits during the show.(No hate to Viv and her crew, obviously. I know that they've been hard at work but that doesn't stop me from being disappointed.)
Honestly, it looks amazing! Great job!
Thank you it was hard but I love the results
Your redesign of Cherri Bomb looks awesome! She looks like she's ready to kick some butt and take names all while expressing herself with her style. Just another awesome video. Thanks for taking the time to make these even though you need a break from Hazbin. I'm sure all your viewers (myself included) appreciate it a lot.
You never fail to make such amazing and freaking cool re-designs it always surprises me even when its just the start of the vid!!
Happy to still keep surprising ppl keeps me on my toes I always worry ill fall behind with other creators or that ill get to comfortable and lose that drive to do better
I love the redesign. You took the cherry bomb name and made it a realized theme . Its not too subtle or too on the nose. I like the more varied pallet too, you used more of a burgundy here and there with some cherry reds too. The darker yellow here and there to carry the eye was a good touch too. And thank you for simplifying the tight rips. I still say even as is , this one is easier to animate than the predecessor. Clear color placement, no parts are lost on each other, soothing that fits the era and style bit still makes sense. (You made her heels the same size despite being different shoes thank you. ) and she just has a lot more personality here. You made her explosive. I think one of my favorite parts is the hair. You made it look like a lit fuse. And the x's feel like a better suit foe her than Vaggie. The tattoos font me me cry either. Over all its awesome.
Honestly, cherri is one of my least liked characters and designs from said show. The ponytail could have looked like an explosion and she could ahev had more of a bomb theme , but all we got was red-pink-yellow pallet swap number 5. Not to mention she looks both like hell to animate and confusing to draw. A long pony tail on a stick holder with long hair and they often conflict if you aren't careful. The gradient does not help. Removing the lower hair and making it a full on pony tail was a good idea on tour redesign.
There needs to be more of a conversation about the misuse of red here. Viv honestly doesn't use a variety of red or reddish-pinks. She uses the exact same one without explanation despite it either blending a character into the background, making these complicated characters somehow look the exact same because she honestly copies and pastes pallets, and a he refuses to acknowledge other values and colors on the color wheel. Its digital art, she has access to every color imaginable. But she uses the same seven colors nearly every time. I've seen biblical paintings that depicted hell as far more colorful than she does. I look at her work and it gives me eye strain as well as color deprivation because I start seeing green shortly after. That is a problem.
Plenty of shows have worked with a limited pallet and had far better placement/usage than this. And is she allergic to color theory? Blue and green? I know for a fact that is one of the first things you learn in art school. Or did she completely disregard those classes for a passion project shes got her fans to pay for? And no amount of "its a pilot" or "its her art style" or "You're just jealous" or fandom enabling will change that. The red is a legitimate problem, ans a paying network needs to step in because its no longer just for the fans anymore, its for a general audience that doesn't feel obligated to ignore or deal with it. They vote with their views.
Love it! A perfect mix of punk rocker and explosive 💣 💥
X-Men Evolution was like that, like the outfits were rarely ever changed except when they were doing stuff like parties and such and while it made sense for Toad to not change his clothes that much (Fred as well) it didn't make much sense for the others.... With that aside, I love this redesign! Punk fashion is always amazing
I've been waiting ever since night-time and my eyes burning
But I like the design
Lol sorry it was 2am when i finished and I was like no ones gonna be awake
@@LovesArt23 It was the afternoon or 8:00 Pm when I'm working on my comic, my eyes were suffering in pain😞
I love how her arms look singed, even though you said she works with explosives, because in Hell, I would imagine that everyone would have scars or other things that hint or remind them of their past lives. It is a nice nod to her character.
Bro seriously I wish they could hire you as their Design artist or whatever its called cause you are a genius on Designs
YOO THAT LOOKS SO COOL!! I cannot wait to see your monster high redesigns
Thank you and there might be a sneak peek today ⚡
I love this! Like, Really Really Love it!! The outfit, the hair, the mmmm! It gives her so much more personality than her old one!! And I love how she looks punk and that You know it's punk!!! This is my favorite by far with your redesigns!
Hope you have a amazing vacation! ^>^
I really love her flame hair
Okay it looks so much better and when I saw the community tab about telling the differences I was literally getting confused to the point I gave up I liked how it stands out more darker reddish tones and it really fits to the time period she is in so I really loved it! 👍
Thank you and lol sorry about that really thought they only changed her sock to a shoe XD but in my defense most of cherris addict scenes didnt show that it was now a shoe other than that 1 sec and you'll miss it moment
@@LovesArt23 ah I see thx and no need to apologize it has been awhile since I last seen some Helluva boss and Hazbin hotel content for awhile (besides the season two episode with stolas-) from Viv and her team but I completely understand it will take awhile for them to make the new episode so yeah
“I know the gay code”
My honest reaction: Oh gee, she knows my deepest, darkest secret.
im pretty sure her hair was supposed to represent a bomb being lit. Hence the name "cherri bomb". But despite that, I'm happy to see you redesign this character because youre right about everyone having the same color palette.
This version of cherry makes me think she southern I don't know why and I think she would yell at me if I didn't season my food enough but yeah 100% love this
I love cherri bomb redesign it's super badass
The SASS today!
Anyways, have fun on your trip, cherri looks amazing great job as always. I just saw the Frankie post and my heart is screaming, she was my favorite as a kid!
Lol yeah I'm extremely tired of having to repeat my self when I talk abouf HH (not to you guys just like in general) that i couldn't hold the sass in XD and Thank you i hope so too I cant wait to see all the art and city's
And Frankie was probably my third fav our of the main cast like
1.lagoona
2.Cleo
3.Frankie
4.clawdeen
5. Draculura
6. Ghoula (wasnt enough screen time or dolls for me to kniw if i liked her enough)
I'm partial to Cherri just because she's a fun character, but WOW does you're redesign have personality. It's more stylized (independently of the rest of the world), better color ratios- everything. If I were to change anything, maybe the skin tone? I almost prefer the color you have on her hands/chest/leg. Personally, I think that softer skin-tone grey would make the other colors pop even more and make her less human. But das me. Awesome job regardless :D
Yeah I wanted to use the skin tone I used in my old deisgn but alot of ppl where 50/50 on it and I didnt need the race comments I got enough stuff going on I don't need ppl arguing
@@LovesArt23 Oh no I get it, you're totally fine. I thought about that too. I was just going off the literal colors bc it's a nice pallet :' )
OOOO man just got here and can’t wait to see the redesign!!!
Tho I can see how tired you are, please take a rest and have time for yourself!
Oh i will next week is vaccation time 🌴🌴🌴
YOOOOOOO!! CHERRI LOOKS SO BADASS! I FRICKIN LUV HER SO MUCH AND SHE'S MY FAVORITE HAZBIN HOTEL CHARACTER! Well besides Charlie but still I love your re-redesign of Cherri Bomb!😁😍
Ahh, I love this redesign! While I love Cherri's original design, the outfit looks more in the category of modern punk rock fashion
This re-redesign actually inspired me to redesign my OC to be a bit more punk.
I'd also like to say, keep up the great work, I absolutely love your art.
Hpe you have fun with your trip like always I love your re-designs
I love how so many of these redesigns are less overhauls and just improvements of what we loved. I love her new design better than the old one honestly.
Not gonna lie I really love how you make Cherry bomb pop out with this design. I especially love how you make the back of her hair design so fluffy and more like an explosion I really like that. ^w^
Yet another beautiful masterpiece
SO IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED AND THOUGHT IT WAS WEIRD THEY HAVE NO EARS!?!?!?
I swear every video I watch of your art, I listen so intensely to your intro's and your explanation. But, the moment your redesign sketch pops up on the screen, I'm absolutely flabbergasted every time! You're definitely my favourite artist! I just found your video today. :D (I LOVE your hazbin hotel redesigns! ❤)
There wasn’t much of a change to her design but I’m glad she’s still the same savage and badass Cherri Bomb we all know and love and can’t wait to see more chaos happening. 🍒💣💥
I legit love your redesign of Cherry, now she is more 80s
The big thing that bothers me about the canon designs are the excessive details (and the colours, but you already said it all perfectly)
All the stripes, bows, rips etc are just not animation friendly. In 3D and flash sure, but for hand drawn 2D it's a nightmare!
The characters don't NEED all those details to communicate what they're about to the audience
Hey if you need a break from the stuff, take it. Nothing sucks worse than working yourself into a massive burnout.
But I do got to say I love this redesign it's so wacky and in your face in the more lovely way.
I also love all the research you do for these different time period outfits they're just so lovely to hear about ^_^
Hi! This was a great breakdown on what's lacking in the designs of Vivziepop. I think for your re-redesign there's some things I'd like to say. I absolutely love the jacket idea! It works really well punkrock wise! I do think there's one big problem here: Way too many details. This is an animation show and everything should be efficient to animate, this design is completely packed with details and patterns to keep track of. Your point on hazbin hotel's use of "red" is completely valid and a more reddish color should be added. However, colors should still fit within the colorscheme. The red you used here doesn't fit that well because it's very saturated. Besides that, it's also good to use limited color. I think the yellow and green are a bit too much, using just yellow with a range of reds would probably work better. The hair in the original design is very simplified and thus easy to animate, and although yours looks great as an illustration, it would be a lot more difficult to keep track of. I really like the gradient in it tho! Very punkrocky!! There's loads of elements that you came up with that work really well and the team should definitely considering!
I completely agree with you Loves Art23! Vivziepop should’ve put more research and designing when it came to her characters.
And the other problem for me is that apart from Charlie, Vaggie, Angel Dust and Alastor we don’t know anything about the other characters other then when they died.
Like take Husk, we don’t know anything about him other then he died in the 70’s.
I mean there was a rumour awhile back about Husk being a former war veteran. Which would’ve been an interesting concept to explore. But nope, Viv had to toss that out of the window!
Yeah i noticed that as well after making theses videos like nearly every characters bios or lore lessens the further we get away from the main cast like Angel dust has so much stuff he starting to feel over developed vaggies a got a good size of info charlie good but not much Alastor makes sense not have so much since hes mysterious husk niffty sir p and cherri nothing theres nothing in there lore or bio thats actually decent info
@@LovesArt23 Exactly! I mean, if you want your audience to be interested about your characters, you're going have to give them some background information. Otherwise, they're uninteresting.
Take Helluva Boss for example, it's got great interesting characters and lots of general lore to expand upon.
I don't hate Hazbin Hotel, but I'd say I'm not as big a fan of it when it was first released. I'm still going to watch it when it comes out of course.
But think about it. If Husk was a veteran, he would have had something military on him like Tom Trench. I like Charles J Thomas's theory about Husk being a magician wanna-be kid neglected by his hazzard addicted parents. Despite learning all he needed to be a magician Husk's parents were only giving him attention when he could use his knowledge for hazard stuff. So he became a resentful alkohol addict who first started drinking to open up and then to forget that he is a mess
I actually really prefer this one compared to the original. Amazing work as always! :DD
Was SO excited for the show based on the pilot . . . But given these new designs they been putting out… I’m very concerned and worried😥😣
Same- I was super excited because of the pilot but after all the redesigns and last minute decisions I'm a bit worried as well-
I loved your design on Cherri it was really good and very punk rock! Also liked that you mentioned Eddie from stranger things awesome character 👏✨️
Thank you and eddie may he rest in peace was such the prefect inspo for cherri all i could think about was his jacket
Ngl, I think it'd be really cool if the reason Cherry wears shoes with different heights is because her legs aren't the same length.
I dig Cherri Bomb new design and I feel like that she is the only one that not gotten lots of changes from her pilot version.
Mmm not really if you put them side by side all they really did was take away her spender and add some effect on her top and hip I mean they did give her a shoe but it's still drawn similar to old sock and like one color change and I'm pretty sure vaggies the one who got the biggest change
Your cherri design looks amazing and agree with your points i like to draw outfits and Cheri outfit gives me headache to study and i agree with everyone getting red treatment has TOO much of same color of red if they wanted to sneak red in the redesigns they could of have used different shades of red or different colors and i hope the backgrounds will have different colors other than red but otherwise your video had good points!
Cherri is really my favorite character and you made her even prettier than before! I've always loved your videos ever since I found it cause your designs are SO COOL! Can't wait for you to come back! ❤
I absolutely love your art and always look forward to another redesign video dropping!!! Love this design❤
So good!! Worth it
Thank you 💞
I also used to look up to Viv and used to be in love with her designs and animation but now i lost all my respect to her, and after a few re-watching I've noticed alot of problems with her writing and after learning about hh character information and what time period they are supposed to be from it and seeing how they look nothing like it ( i am a bit of a fashion history nerd myself) and how she doesn't seem to research the asstetic she's supposed to be refrising and how she keeps using the same colours and just like you i kept getting dispointed after every "redesign" and don't understand how can people still praise this mess , that's the biggest issue with Viv and her fan's her fan's are tooo protective of her and come after and attack anyone who dares try to give Viv a tiny bit of criticism and seem to have this werid parasocial realationship with her and seem to think that she is that perfect angle who can't hurt a fly it's probably why she would never improve as an artist or a writer bec she knows people would just eat it up for her, honestly the thing i somewhat like about HH is that the settings allow me to go absolutely wild with my oc's design but THAT'S IT , i no longer care about the characters and I don't trust Viv to be a good writer and is having my doubts about her as a person( 'cough' the eren situation 'cough' ) , same with HB but that's a whole other can of worms
Anyway amazing design as always i really love how you made chiires hair it looks so much better and i love the different boots as the one Heald boot and the flat shoe look were so uncomfortable for me to look at and really made the design so annoying, and i love that you gave her a TRUE punk look 👍 your one of my favourite UA-cam artists 💝, have fun in your viction
4:22 Wow! That really IS a big RED flag!!! Eh? Eh? ;D eh...
Really love this design, I love it's loudness. Viv's character designs tend to be loud, but not in a good way. Not only is it done well here, but as the character's name is literally Cherri Bomb she should look loud (compared to everyone else at least)
Looks so sick! I'm guessing for what Viv was going for in the og when she made her hair like that was to try and make it kind of like Joan Jett's hair in the 80s, but just ultimately flopped because of how the high ponytail wasn't necessary. I love her hair, just it never really screamed 80s to me and more of a 2000's look kind of.
You did amazing on showing on what the 80s were about in the redesign of yours! As someone who absolutely loves 80s fashion and overall aesthetic, you killed it with the design! I guess the only thing that had me tilting my head to the side a little bit was the green. I didn't think that green would be a color of your choice when it came to redesigning Cherri, but it doesn't bother me too much. It really does look really good! I think I'd actually like to make fanart of your design, if you don't mind.
Keep up the great work!❤💥🍒
Thank you and me too 80s fashion is my bread im butter ive worked on a few shows in my theater days and it was the best time of my life and HECK yeah you can make fan art 💞💞💞
@@LovesArt23 Thank you so much! I'll let you know when it's done ASAP!
I needed this today, I love this redesign so much, she’s giving me that joan Jett vibe while her old design was more Avril Lavigne. Also YES I’m trying so hard to be excited, but these redesigns are weighing me down. I’m just gonna take a break and have some me time lol. Have fun on your trip ❤
Have fun on vacation! I love how she has a few missing teeth, it's tiny details like that that make me fall in love with your designs. Dont burn yourself out with this, if you need a break please take it.
You did pretty awesome and I can see your point on the shade of red. Also hope your trip goes smoothly and to have fun along with staying safe
I love the way you can draw so good! ❤
Honestly, I also feel very disappointed with the designs, like they have such a good concept and they are not taking advantage of it. I tu sed to look up to Viv too, she is what got me into design and I really thank her for that. But man you did a great job, the colors are great and the idea of the back of the jacket it’s so creative. I hope you have a nice trip by the way
Thank you and yes I wont ever forget how Vivs work inspired me and ill always have that soft sport for it but its easy to see Viv hasn't felt the need to improve anymore which worries me for her future projects.
Thank you i hope so too ive never flown so far before really hoping i can sleep through all of it XD
Viv sounds like a nightmare to work with from her designs alone. Imagine actually caring about accuracy, and colors, and... character design, and your boss just *doesn't.*
My favorite redesign so far that you've made. 10/10, I wish this was what we got in Hazbin
It’s a cute design, but my brain immediately went to “this looks like the demon version of jinx if she were red”
When you said that you need a break from Hazbin Hotel. I can relate! I mean I haven't done any redesigns for the show or anything. Just doing something for a LONG time (like you doing these re-redesigns) can be exhausting. And you get that feeling that what you make looks... Forced. So I completely understand! (I hope my comment is easy to understand, English isn't my main language and sometimes I just stop thinking what I'm writing bruh)
Anyway! I can't wait for the next video about monster high!
And have a nice trip!
One of the reasons I love Helluva over Hazbin Hotel in terms of characters is actually for the reason you mentioned here. All of HB’s characters look like they were created for the story, rather than the other way around. Hazbin, as of now at least, feels like a collection of loose OCs who existed in the same mostly generic setting and were shoehorned into a linear story.
Viv's designs look like they were drawn by a middle schooler... and she's had these characters since she was in middle school, you think they'd be better now that shes an adult with 2 successful series.
Not only are the designs bad, but if we're relying on the writing, that's also bad from what we've seen of HB. I'm lowkey worried the humor will be similar to Villainous, which don't get me wrong I LOVED that show when I was a kid. But thats a kid's show, and the episodes are very short, so a whole 30 minutes of silly dick jokes would be absolute torture. Rewatching the Pilot, the jokes weren't that funny, and it was VERY fast paced. I enjoyed it when it came out, but I was literally 14. My humor has changed since then, and honestly with each passing year my hopes for this show lower. I'm really hoping the TV show that picked up on this project does more justice. (ALSO I feel I should mention that I have no hate for the artists who work on HH and HB. They are all SUPER talented and I could never animate something so smoothly.)
YYYOOOOOO!!! i just discovered you! imma watch all of your videos now ^^
And, omagosh, your Cherry's redesing look great, i agree with so much you've done with her. Awesome! Imma fanart it :*
OMG I LOVE THIS, CHERRI IS MY FAV HAZBIN CHARACTER AND THIS DESIGN FITS HER SO MUCH BETTER!!!!!