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Pickup cover discoloration near the pole screws might be due to wax from being potted wicking out and reacting with the plastic scratch protection film. Try something that will clean wax off the metal plating.
is there a 24-fret Telecaster? Like a "Super Tele" if you will? (rather than "Super Strat") Like basically HH-configuration (with metal-equipped pickups like S.Duncan or EMG) and hardtail bridge and all that? I'd like to get one from Fender if there is (and no, not the Jim Root signature, and not LTD guitars either; just like the Tele-version of a Super Strat).
I was cruising reverb last night and saw a black beauty paranormal available for pre-order with a 3 humbucker+ bigsby configuration and thought of you right away. I know you're not a fan of bigsbys but its a pretty awesome lookin axe. Hope your BB paranormal shows up soon! This one sounded great IMHO
It’s interesting that as a brand Fender can charmingly present an obvious nod to a Gibson legend while the other way round is not even really imaginable in such a light-hearted way.
@@camilonavarro5997 The marauder was introduced to go up against the telecaster, to break into the single coil + bolt-on neck market, that much is fact. I don't know why the shape would matter so much. Sure the design was a bit different but it's not exactly like these fender parallel universe series really look like a Gibson either. It's more about Fender taking certain elements from Gibson, like Gibson did with the marauder.
Gibson are too concerned on "being authentic" to care about QC. And for them being authentic means NOT solving design issues on their models: why on Earth Les Pauls necks still break so easily? design flaw, yet they won't fix it :(
Man, I would love to see a Jim Root signature, tele or jazzmaster, could be a really cool unboxing/review ! Super cool video as always, Jeep up the great work !
Mark Agnesi fucked them out of ever doing something cool like that a few years back with the whole " Play Authentic " bs. Gibson would look like a huge dickhead copying anything Fender after all that lol. Gibson did do a great Tele - esque guitar back in the 70's tho called the Marauder. I'm sure you already know about those but if you've never played one I would highly suggest checking one out cause those things are absolutely great. Just wish they would have gone with a different headstock on those. That's a personal preferance tho.
Aren't those the ones that look like you're Hendrix-ing a strat, but thats just how it is? If it is, I personally wouldn't buy it, but thats cus i look like a doof with anything other than a single cut or offset (with the exception of most Rics), but i know a BUNCH of people want it back...
Man, I don’t know if you changed your recoding techniques or if it is just the axe, but it sounds wonderful! I normally don’t care for Telecaster esthetics but that really is nice looking.
Tele deluxes always have a 70s Strat style headstock. Except for the American professional telecaster deluxes for some reason. And it looks super weird on those
@@austinledley - I once had a Squier Tele Custom, but unlike the American Custom it had two humbuckers in standard size (not wide-range) but still a Tele headstock :-)
They should keep this up! Love the creativity. It seems the guitar market is so focused on the past. Guitars like this are doing exactly what was being done in the 50s and 60s! Trying stuff out, making new designs.
I think the discoloration of the pickups is just where the plastic covering wasn't tight to the metal and allowed some air in there. My guess is it won't take long before you don't notice it any longer as the rest of the gold finish takes on the same oxidation.
Wow, probably the best sounding Fender I’ve heard. I know, I know, there will be people that say it’s not a real Fender because it’s more like a Les Paul, but I’m a Gibson guy, so this one looks the part to me. I’d love to see a less expensive version, but it wouldn’t be as nice I’m sure.
I am so excited for mine to get here... perfect guitar for a guy like me. Someone who loves the way Les Pauls look and sound but can appreciate the way a Telecaster plays. Not really anticipating any use out of that neck pick up (too hot) but easy enough to swap. My first Fender is really a Gibson... now that's a parallel universe for sure!!! Thanks for the review Trogley.
Almost forgot... this one SOUNDS KILLER from this side of the video... to me, anyway! Even all the little switching noises, string-sliding, chording and background incidentals. For some reason, especially while you were going all Randy Rhoades for us, it carried that old timey tape-recorded sound... and the super-hot pickups were awesome too! Loved it!
my favorite thing about this guitar is the endless variety of tones available from combining two pickups with independent tap and tone controls. small changes in their volumes can drastically change their phase relationship and resonances. becomes even more pronounced with compression and overdrive. so damn cool.
Trogly, I cant take it anymore...its a split not a tap. You split the humbucker in half to get a single coil type sound, hence split. A tap is for an overwound pickup which lets you lower the output 😁👍
Splitting and tapping both occur with these pickups. The design of those Double Tap pickups is this: One heavily wound coil and one regular wound coil. The heavy one is tapped down to the value of the smaller one in humbucker mode. When you flip the switch, the heavy coil gets uptapped back up to its full potential while also being split from the smaller coil. This way you don't have the typical extreme drop in output in single coil mode.
You playing has improved drastically over the last month man.. well done . Keep it up man, lol I would actually love to see you cover some 80s /90s song that you been playing in the last few vids
Gibson fan here, if I had the money i would get a Les Paul 🧐 but this ! I’m really having second thoughts normally I would just pull the trigger for the les paul but this thing is really neat 👀👍🏼
Awesome Trogly《☆》Block inlays on Fenders are a Big Plus■◇¿.Especially with maple fretboards. My 2010 Gibson LesPaul Deluxe has more 60 cycle hum than any of my Fender single coil guitars. Supposedly it can be fixed by adding or repairing a faulty ground to the bridge. I still need to check that◇¿.😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍
Nice one! I really dig all of the Tele/Les Paul hybrids and this one seems like a really good one. One question, and sorry if I missed it in the video, does the neck have an angle to it or not? And if not, does the tunomatic bridge have enough room to increase height if you were to shim the neck?
Nice review Trogly! I Agree that moving forward the white finish on the end of the headstock (as they usually do on the matching headstock tele) would be a better choice. Just one remark. That is no the skunk stripe, is the trussrod plug....
I'm loving the trouble maker tele. Wish I could get one. I agree about the stripe on the neck. That would really set the looks of the guitar off. And of course a multiply binding.
Looks amazing... but what’s the point of a Tele with humbuckers if I wanted hunbuckers I’d... well I just wouldn’t. Single coil every day. Tempted to try to replicate that look on a standard Tele though. It really does look the business.
You should make a top 10 2020 guitars you've reviewed. SG Modern should make that list. The review was so good, I got one, and I think it is the best guitar I've ever played. Thanks for all the reviews you do.
Thanks for the comprehensive breakdown and awesome demo. It's a gorgeous guitar-but I think I'll save my shekels for the orange Parallel Universe Telecaster Thinline with TV Jones Classics, which I missed out on when it first came around.
I like fender, but I remember the american pro series being about $1450. I'm not seeing where this guitar is almost a grand more aside from the fact that it's scabbing les paul visuals. I had two pros, but the double HH shaws or whatever they are never quite sound like what you're looking for when you run them through the rig. A nice guitar, but leaves you wondering whether you were hoping to play a tele (and if you were, you just go pick up the tele) or a les paul format guitar with short scale and PAFs (you end up grabbing that instead). and sooner or later you realize that style of guitar is novel but you're not looking to hear it. Probably more due to the scale length than the pickups, which makes it not solvable by switching pickups. Their website boasts of the midrange of the mahogany, but it doesn't make much difference on a 25.5" scale. People think they hear wood, but they hear scale. Still stuck on the price, though - a bolt on guitar with a CNC routed top and plastic binding for $2400, made to look like a les paul, but the scale length prevents it from ever sounding quite right? It's shrill.
Thanks Trogly,do you have any info on the Epiphone Firebirds for 2021 ?.I am hoping they do them with neck thru construction and one in either a red stain,or solid red.
I have a limited edition tele in seafoam green with a one piece all rosewood neck and it's the best tele I've ever heard. You should do a review on one of those Austin, it's a incredible guitar.
Idk tho Im going to buy a black one but now I'm between the black one an the white one.i have alot of black an only one white guitar so maybe .dude thank u for showing us the white one best guitar channel ever
*For next generation I'd like to see the Bass VI but in standard scale, everything else just as is!* Don't get me wrong I love the VI and have owned some myself, but everytime I get a baritone or 6-string bass I find myself struggling to use it. The VI model unique enough to stand out in standard scale. Especially since it would have Jaguar pickups and those are usually only on the 24" scale guitars.
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Pickup cover discoloration near the pole screws might be due to wax from being potted wicking out and reacting with the plastic scratch protection film. Try something that will clean wax off the metal plating.
Randy would be proud of you Trog.
is there a 24-fret Telecaster? Like a "Super Tele" if you will? (rather than "Super Strat")
Like basically HH-configuration (with metal-equipped pickups like S.Duncan or EMG) and hardtail bridge and all that? I'd like to get one from Fender if there is (and no, not the Jim Root signature, and not LTD guitars either; just like the Tele-version of a Super Strat).
A “bell” truss rod cover would be a nice touch/remedy to the exposed skunk stripe.
I was cruising reverb last night and saw a black beauty paranormal available for pre-order with a 3 humbucker+ bigsby configuration and thought of you right away. I know you're not a fan of bigsbys but its a pretty awesome lookin axe. Hope your BB paranormal shows up soon!
This one sounded great IMHO
It’s interesting that as a brand Fender can charmingly present an obvious nod to a Gibson legend while the other way round is not even really imaginable in such a light-hearted way.
Not anymore at least. Back in different era's of Gibson it was more possible and did happen, the Marauder comes to mind
I don’t if it really counts, but Gibson did make a couple strat copies
@@camilonavarro5997 The marauder was introduced to go up against the telecaster, to break into the single coil + bolt-on neck market, that much is fact. I don't know why the shape would matter so much. Sure the design was a bit different but it's not exactly like these fender parallel universe series really look like a Gibson either. It's more about Fender taking certain elements from Gibson, like Gibson did with the marauder.
Gibson are too concerned on "being authentic" to care about QC. And for them being authentic means NOT solving design issues on their models: why on Earth Les Pauls necks still break so easily? design flaw, yet they won't fix it :(
You gonna cry bud?
Glad to see you’re showing Fender some love again.
Man, I would love to see a Jim Root signature, tele or jazzmaster, could be a really cool unboxing/review !
Super cool video as always, Jeep up the great work !
Would absolutely love to see Gibson make a Les Paul with a Tele configuration as a response to these lol
Mark Agnesi fucked them out of ever doing something cool like that a few years back with the whole " Play Authentic " bs. Gibson would look like a huge dickhead copying anything Fender after all that lol. Gibson did do a great Tele - esque guitar back in the 70's tho called the Marauder. I'm sure you already know about those but if you've never played one I would highly suggest checking one out cause those things are absolutely great. Just wish they would have gone with a different headstock on those. That's a personal preferance tho.
The Gibson Music City Jr. comes pretty close.
@@_dmfd pretty sure that Mark was just the public image of that campaign rather than the genesis of it. 🤷🏼♂️
An ex-workmate of mine just finished building a LesPaul-shaped guitar with Telecaster pick-ups, bridge and electrics :-)
I'd love to see a Marauder reissue
I will be “in” when they do the Fender Ventures Mosrite.
Hell yeah!
Totally, the Mosrite was a iconic design
Aren't those the ones that look like you're Hendrix-ing a strat, but thats just how it is? If it is, I personally wouldn't buy it, but thats cus i look like a doof with anything other than a single cut or offset (with the exception of most Rics), but i know a BUNCH of people want it back...
Me too, sparkling candy apple jazz or jaq! They used fenders up till mosrite started the sponsorship.
@@phillvisnaw1037 i believe they already did some like that maybe twenty years ago.
Someone should mod one of these to be a buckethead telecaster
The cool one was the black Tele with 3 pickups and the Bigsby.
I was with ya until you said bigsby....
Yeah it's the night great idea
Bigsby is a great idea
Fair enough.
Man, I don’t know if you changed your recoding techniques or if it is just the axe, but it sounds wonderful! I normally don’t care for Telecaster esthetics but that really is nice looking.
I'd prefer the Tele headstock on it but it's still frikking awesome!
Tele deluxes always have a 70s Strat style headstock. Except for the American professional telecaster deluxes for some reason. And it looks super weird on those
@@austinledley oK! It would still be awesome IMO
@@austinledley - I once had a Squier Tele Custom, but unlike the American Custom it had two humbuckers in standard size (not wide-range) but still a Tele headstock :-)
@@peyotepete4903 - I agree with you! However I do prefer the big headstock on a Strat :-)
They should keep this up! Love the creativity. It seems the guitar market is so focused on the past. Guitars like this are doing exactly what was being done in the 50s and 60s! Trying stuff out, making new designs.
I think the discoloration of the pickups is just where the plastic covering wasn't tight to the metal and allowed some air in there. My guess is it won't take long before you don't notice it any longer as the rest of the gold finish takes on the same oxidation.
Wow, probably the best sounding Fender I’ve heard. I know, I know, there will be people that say it’s not a real Fender because it’s more like a Les Paul, but I’m a Gibson guy, so this one looks the part to me. I’d love to see a less expensive version, but it wouldn’t be as nice I’m sure.
I am so excited for mine to get here... perfect guitar for a guy like me. Someone who loves the way Les Pauls look and sound but can appreciate the way a Telecaster plays. Not really anticipating any use out of that neck pick up (too hot) but easy enough to swap. My first Fender is really a Gibson... now that's a parallel universe for sure!!! Thanks for the review Trogley.
Trogly's Guitar Show,the best show on UA-cam.
Pretty cool.
Old school but have a 20th Anniversary Squier Fat Tele (think Andy Summers) I've had for nearly 15 years.
I'm set.
Looks like my ‘92 Les Paul Studio in Alpine White so naturally I’m in love with this guitar! 😍
so x-mas eve this year i think trog should read twas the night before christmas...with that beautiful voice.i would be in.
;0
I think this is the most beautiful guitar Ive ever seen
and sounds amazing
I love the Tapped sound on this axe.. Like a traditional tele, but darker. Really cool.
Almost forgot... this one SOUNDS KILLER from this side of the video... to me, anyway! Even all the little switching noises, string-sliding, chording and background incidentals. For some reason, especially while you were going all Randy Rhoades for us, it carried that old timey tape-recorded sound... and the super-hot pickups were awesome too!
Loved it!
Thanks for the review on this. You helped me pull the trigger on one exactly like this. Can’t wait til it gets here! Thanks again.
Thi is my favorite looking one from the series for sure
6:50 The discoloration on the pickup covers is likely due to the nitro finish offgassing and reacting with the protective plastic film/gold plating.
The clean sound son this guitar are just OMG amazing. So fat but still defined. I love how it sounds.
my favorite thing about this guitar is the endless variety of tones available from combining two pickups with independent tap and tone controls. small changes in their volumes can drastically change their phase relationship and resonances. becomes even more pronounced with compression and overdrive. so damn cool.
Hi Trogly, can’t help wondering if that guitar has a grounding issue that creates that noise. Really enjoyed your demo. Thank you.
Trogly, I cant take it anymore...its a split not a tap. You split the humbucker in half to get a single coil type sound, hence split. A tap is for an overwound pickup which lets you lower the output 😁👍
...by tapping into a coil. Split the pickup, tap a coil.
And in fact he's actually UNtapping a coil when he splits them, due to the design of those Double Tap pickups.
He talked about this in the Uptown Strat video. These are taps, not splits.
But these are tapping the coils not splitting them, as the pickup readings don't cut in half when he taps them.
Splitting and tapping both occur with these pickups. The design of those Double Tap pickups is this: One heavily wound coil and one regular wound coil. The heavy one is tapped down to the value of the smaller one in humbucker mode. When you flip the switch, the heavy coil gets uptapped back up to its full potential while also being split from the smaller coil. This way you don't have the typical extreme drop in output in single coil mode.
Nice guitar. I never really liked the tele body style until a few years ago, now I love 'em. That looks like a beauty!
Agreed.....I have a black Tele Elite with active PU’s...but this white one is awesome
I’m not a huge fan of Tele headstocks so I’m glad to see a Strat headstock on it.
you should really check out the new american professional 2 guitars
I would love to see his opinion. I’m thinking about selling my ES335 and getting a Strat in the Dark Night color
Was thinking the same thing. Would love to hear his opinion on the AM Pro 2 Tele Deluxe and how it compares to this
25.5” scale with 12” radius is my official favorite spec. It’s perfect for me.
You playing has improved drastically over the last month man.. well done . Keep it up man, lol I would actually love to see you cover some 80s /90s song that you been playing in the last few vids
Gibson fan here, if I had the money i would get a Les Paul 🧐 but this ! I’m really having second thoughts normally I would just pull the trigger for the les paul but this thing is really neat 👀👍🏼
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Gibson should do one, can you Imagine an LP with Tele pickups!
that’d be absolutely insane and i love it.
No
the closest that they've gotten (to my knowledge, anyway) is the Marauder from the '70s
They basically did, with the Gibson Music City Jr.
I know someone who just finished building a daphne-blue Tele with a LesPaul-shaped body :-)
I think it’s a wonderful do anything guitar, the notes were crystal clear. Nothing to dislike here for me.
Awesome Trogly《☆》Block inlays on Fenders are a Big Plus■◇¿.Especially with maple fretboards. My 2010 Gibson LesPaul Deluxe has more 60 cycle hum than any of my Fender single coil guitars. Supposedly it can be fixed by adding or repairing a faulty ground to the bridge. I still need to check that◇¿.😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍
Damn, that is beautiful.
Nice one! I really dig all of the Tele/Les Paul hybrids and this one seems like a really good one.
One question, and sorry if I missed it in the video, does the neck have an angle to it or not?
And if not, does the tunomatic bridge have enough room to increase height if you were to shim the neck?
It looks like an amplifier with those knobs on it.
One of my favorite “first fret neck depths” I’ve heard in a while
That is a very nice looking and sounding guitar.
Yay! Fender! Did you just use a dryer sheet as a color comparison?
Nice review Trogly! I Agree that moving forward the white finish on the end of the headstock (as they usually do on the matching headstock tele) would be a better choice. Just one remark. That is no the skunk stripe, is the trussrod plug....
Trogglemaker Tele
Would absolutely expect them to replace those pickups. No excuse for that. Especially for a 2400 dollar guitar. Beautiful guitar. I actually love it
Any chance of reviewing the Japanese Modern series guitars? Couple of them landed here in Europe, don't know about USA.
That's a beauty, sounds good too.
Upkat looks like an awesome guitar
I'm loving the trouble maker tele. Wish I could get one. I agree about the stripe on the neck. That would really set the looks of the guitar off. And of course a multiply binding.
It would look so cool in candy apple. Also in black and thinline with chrome hardware.
Do the Japanese TM's have the same pick ups?
They do not , the Japanese have shawbuckers and the parallel universe 2 has custom double tap humbuckers. It's a fun guitar !
That was a great episode Trog.
I'd definitely take the Tele. Sweet. I just like telecasters in any and all forms.
Any idea when the Black one will be in? I’m torn between all 3. Going to pick up one of them.
is there a 24-fret Telecaster? Like a "Super Tele" if you will?
No, but check out the Andy Wood signature from Suhr.
@WaurufEx I think there's a G&L Tele with 24 frets.
The 90’s HMT Thinline Tele’s are the only ones I know of with 24 frets.
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Chapman guitars make many of those
That thing sounds pissed, awesome tone must be the mark 5 on 2C plus. 1 mic only? If so you might the sweet spot.
Looks amazing... but what’s the point of a Tele with humbuckers if I wanted hunbuckers I’d... well I just wouldn’t. Single coil every day. Tempted to try to replicate that look on a standard Tele though. It really does look the business.
The tapped bridge is AWESOME...
Love it. Don't love 4 ads in the first 5 minutes. I guess that happens with popularity.
You should make a top 10 2020 guitars you've reviewed. SG Modern should make that list. The review was so good, I got one, and I think it is the best guitar I've ever played. Thanks for all the reviews you do.
Thanks for the comprehensive breakdown and awesome demo. It's a gorgeous guitar-but I think I'll save my shekels for the orange Parallel Universe Telecaster Thinline with TV Jones Classics, which I missed out on when it first came around.
Are you gonna review de MIJ version of this one?
just got mine as well. ordered it in february, well worth the wait.
I like fender, but I remember the american pro series being about $1450.
I'm not seeing where this guitar is almost a grand more aside from the fact that it's scabbing les paul visuals.
I had two pros, but the double HH shaws or whatever they are never quite sound like what you're looking for when you run them through the rig. A nice guitar, but leaves you wondering whether you were hoping to play a tele (and if you were, you just go pick up the tele) or a les paul format guitar with short scale and PAFs (you end up grabbing that instead). and sooner or later you realize that style of guitar is novel but you're not looking to hear it.
Probably more due to the scale length than the pickups, which makes it not solvable by switching pickups. Their website boasts of the midrange of the mahogany, but it doesn't make much difference on a 25.5" scale. People think they hear wood, but they hear scale.
Still stuck on the price, though - a bolt on guitar with a CNC routed top and plastic binding for $2400, made to look like a les paul, but the scale length prevents it from ever sounding quite right? It's shrill.
Thanks Trogly,do you have any info on the Epiphone Firebirds for 2021 ?.I am hoping they do them with neck thru construction and one in either a red stain,or solid red.
Trogly your randy tone was spot on man. What the fuck that sounds just like him.
Love it!.....but never have I ever seen a less Randy Rhodes vibe....maybe Jake E with a cowboy hat ala Badlands though....any available for Southpaws?
I think it sounds great...
*What are the number of pieces of this limited tele series which Fender produced?*
Fender will make as many as they can possibly sell. They don't limit the production to any certain number that is publicly released
Welcome back, chocolate ice!
Try a Pensa if you can get your hands on one, i have a mkll it's amazing to play, it almost plays itself! Honestly Austin they are the Bees knees.
Hey trogly I’m a huge fan!!!
You are awesome!!!
The buzz is very noticeable. Would definitely put some shielding paint in it.
Speaking of Randy Rhoads, would you ever get a 2010 ‘74 Les Paul Custom Rhoads signature?
Love those distorted tones. Those are fantastic pickups. They sound like a Gibson.
Man both that strat and tele are amaze balls!
I have a limited edition tele in seafoam green with a one piece all rosewood neck and it's the best tele I've ever heard. You should do a review on one of those Austin, it's a incredible guitar.
Wow the coil split mode sounds exactly like a regular single coil 😳
These pickups sound way better than the other one that had the same pickups in it
Can confirm that Uptown Strat feels comfy with the 24.75 Gibson scale.
Do you have any plans to document the recent made in Japan troublemakers?
Nope
I have two guitars with genuine tapped coils and I don't get any 60 cycle hum from them, how sure are you that these are not just split?
Didn't care for the sound until the gain was pushed, seemed kind of thin for such hot pickups
That Bridge pickup sounds really really great. I like it. It reminds me a little bit to a Dirty Finger? Could be?
Idk tho Im going to buy a black one but now I'm between the black one an the white one.i have alot of black an only one white guitar so maybe .dude thank u for showing us the white one best guitar channel ever
Its the pickup pole pieces that the covers react to not the plastic rings around them.
Man I want one of these!!
Hey, you played I Don't Know and Mr. Crowley by Ozzy!
There is a Japanese version of this guitar. The only visible difference is dot inlays, instead of block. It is about $1,000 cheaper.
I found them on eBay. I typed troublemaker telecaster into the search bar.
Looks great sounds great it's a winner winner chicken dinner!🏆
Sounded great right off the bat. She's a keeper. Except for the price.
I prefer the tele headstock as mentioned already. Wonder why they didnt?
imagine this in silverburst
Whatever happened to the black troublemaker telecaster with the 3 pickups and the bigsby? I can’t find it anywhere
I don't think they have released it yet.
I totally dig it but I’d rather a tele headstock
is japan made? or American made? my english is not good sorry
Love the painted headstock!
*For next generation I'd like to see the Bass VI but in standard scale, everything else just as is!* Don't get me wrong I love the VI and have owned some myself, but everytime I get a baritone or 6-string bass I find myself struggling to use it. The VI model unique enough to stand out in standard scale. Especially since it would have Jaguar pickups and those are usually only on the 24" scale guitars.