As I say in the video, I have a lot of respect for Kim pursuing studies and sharing her failures along the way. Most people fail this exam (I show pass rates near end of vid). Please don't leave judgemental comments, especially without even watching 💚 Timestamps: 0:00 Background, 2:28 Question 1, 5:09 Question 2, 6:44 Question 3, 10:03 Question 4, 10:41 Passing rates, 12:05 Patron Cat of the Day
Let's be honest: people are never happy. If she passed the first time around people would accuse her of fixing the test. I respect her honesty and dedication
Exactly. People would accuse her for paying something in the back (sorry for my bad english) I appreciate her honesty. It takes courage to reveal that you failed at an exam.
@@Scarsofevil She did. But she’s also influenced millions of girls into unhealthy body standards. And she has increased the materialism and superficially of this world. I think that outweighs helping a few criminals [coming from a former criminal]
No Lives Matter the world was already superficial and materialistic. I’d like to see your favourite celebrity admit their failings because it takes a humble spirit to do that and that’s even more rare these days
I cannot stand both her and Kanye West, but as a law student who aspires to practice in Family Law, I can at least respect her willingness to pursue the profession despite her ridiculous wealth.
JEE advance is a 6 hour exam with 0.01% acceptance rate. You can check the questions too to find their difficulty level. More than 1.4 million indians sit for JEE mains out of which 70,000 are selected for JEE advance and only 5000 get into IIT. I will be giving the exam next year.
Kudos to her for admitting her failure, I feel ashamed to tell even my close friends and family when I get a bad grade, I can't imagine the feeling she had.
This exam is a fair test for law students who've completed their first year. 3 years of law school is a big commitment, so students should know where they stand at the end of year 1. The final California bar exam is notoriously difficult.
honestly, even a near pass like she got is impressive considering her lifestyle. four children, a difficult relationship, a reality show, and all of her companies and other business ventures. power to her because my adhd brain struggles to do laundry and brush my teeth in the same day.
Lets not pretend Kim doesn't have assistants and probably cleaners so is just like normal people. Not taking away from her attempts at the exam however this isn't a level playing field at all - I'm surprised she didn't pass first time. She has access to human rights lawyers and her own legal team...
@@hannahhannah9555 She's a human being, that's why. Having assistants and cleaners is not going to take any of the stress away. They are there so that she's able to do other things. It's not humanely possible to have the capacity of doing so many tasks and work at once. She never stops working. I don't follow her on socials nor that I stan her, but it frustrates me to see people like you who always expect something big from someone, because they assume they have this and that, respectfully.
@@dudough1022 Let's praise all the non celebrity human beings that did pass the exam and 'had the capacity to do so many tasks at once' - my point was/is that the playing field in life is not level and celebrities get gold stars for merely attempting things when they are privileged...we put them on a pedestal and make excuses for them because they are rich, famous etc I hope Kim becomes a lawyer in the future and we get to see her legally advocate for more disadvantaged people like she has done previously using her celebrity status.
I think most people can look past the grotesque amounts of privilege if the person seems to be making a good-faith attempt to improve the world around them.
Wym. She can’t even stop wearing fur- and she and her family partakes in creating fast fashion companies for profit, taking advantage of factory workers.
@@domochan7598 Did you look to see if she stopped wearing fur? Did you look to see if she stopped using chinese sweatshops? I did, and it wasn't hard to find that she had all her coats remade with faux fur and avoids using chinese labor.
The California Baby Bar exam is for students who are "reading law" (self taught) or people going to unaccredited law programs. Students in normal law schools do not have to take it. It's really hard to take these types of exams because you do not have a teacher pointing out the things that you must know to pass and you often spend a lot of time studying the things you do not need to know.
It's not exactly "self taught". Someone reading for the law has to apprentice with a practicing lawyer or judge, so there is still direction, and presumably instruction of some sort, but there is probably much more self teaching than would otherwise be the case.
And with that in mind, I don’t know how she fought 6 weeks - even of intense studying - was going to be sufficient…this is a test that is intended to judge the knowledge of a student who has completed one year of a full-time law program (in which case those students are likely spending at least 6-7 hours a day, but for a whole year…not 6 weeks). Decent effort but…6 weeks was clearly never going to be sufficient to prepare. Nothing else for her to do but to keep studying and try again if she still wants to pursue this…
@@thefourshowflip She was also doing the apprenticeship though, which is supposed to "replace" the full-time law program, but seems that it's not as effective (?). Then again, the exam is very difficult, so she might have failed even in a traditional law program
@@cameronschyuder9034 It’s required to be an apprentice/intern in a law office in California, but that isn’t really going to help with the bar exam all that much. The bar exam, and law school in general, is intended to teach you how to think about the law from a legal Philosophy standpoint, whereas the apprenticeship is more likely to help teach you about the legal practice (though you will learn practice in law school and some philosophy from the law office)…how to think like a lawyer versus how to practice law. That line from my cousin Vinny (if you’ve seen it) is fairly accurate when he says that law school teaches you things like case law and principles while the law firm you’ll work for after graduating is supposed to teach you how to “be” a lawyer.
Not a Kim kardashian fan, but I really appreciate that she showed off her failure and despite her wealthy career she still decided to pursue the studies
@@TrumpyBooden by "stunt", do you mean that you don't think she actually took the 7 hour exam? I think that alone is respectable, and apparently she was just below the bar of passing (meaning that she definitely studied). What is the stunt?
@@AmanomiyaJun they have a life full of oppurtunities and im pretty sure someday you would get bored of riding yachts in your free time(if you are just that rich).it was her prerogative, i dont see whats so admirable bout that?
As someone who studied Law in the UK at the age of 16 and 17, I can say that the exams really push your memory. If you've a strong memory, they can be straightforward. If you have a memory like a sieve (like me!), then not so straightforward!
I had the same thought. I am glad she is trying to do something productive and noble with herself, and I hope she tries again. Never been a fan, but I am always for someone bettering themselves in some way.
@@mamourizd prison I America is a crapshow. They are fed food with maggots and face c19 infection several times higher than the rest of the population. There’s never been real reform done because people don’t care. Kevin did say something valuable.
Seriously though, that first question had me laughing at the prospect of the question setters being like "ok, we've had a series of accidents involving cars. Everyone's doing the worst possible things at the worst possible times. Hmmm, and now for the finishing touch, let's add Penny the pedestrian to make the accident worse." Honestly the examiners i think are secretly psychopaths and supervillains with their elaborate schemes from this one question XD
Nobody cares about the facts the students have to show they know the fundamental principles and need to demonstrate skills and legal reasoning using them and to present their conclusions appropriately.
Two places where you'd find justice is first in scripture where Jesus is crucified for upholding it and second in the classroom where your teacher upholds it to teach you. The real world is where one twists it, finds loopholes and abuses it.
The whole point is making the situation as convoluted as possible and get the examinees to draw clear lines on what happened. A situation where everyone is partly guilty and a bystander unrelated to the event ended up getting hurt is exactly the type of situation people in law should be able to do because you don't always get clear cut cases.
Kim Kardashian's father was lawyer Robert George Kardashian who gained fame as O. J. Simpson's friend and one of his defense attorneys during O.J. Simpson's infamous 1995 murder trial.of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her boyfriend Ronald Lyle Goldman who were stabbed to death on June 12, 1994.
I never realized that Kim was doing so much or at least trying to do stuff for activism im glad to hear that she is more than just a celebrity flaunting her wealth
Okay, I have to admit.. she got my respect on this one. First, admitting failure tells a lot about her character. I like that she's doing something good for herself with an aim to also help others.
@@pooja350 By good lawyer, this person means a lawyer that usually wins process. Not 'good' like "GOOD" or like "Good doers". (Sorry for my bad english)
You can see that Kim really made effort 10+ hours of studying a day is an effort especially for someone as rich as her she really deserves respect. Her score wasn't bad too I really hope she passes next time I'm glad of what she is trying to do
Promoting empathy and respect always gets an A+ in my book. I earned that for Kim Kardashian through this video, so a couple of A+'s are being sent in opposite directions from Europe as we speak :)
The California State Bar has been one of the 'toughest' ones since I took it many, many, many years ago. I was then just out of the Harvard Law School, and had several of my classmates fail it. The only one then considered as difficult in the US (to my recollection) was the one in New York. Ms. Kardashian has MORE than demonstrated her 'real world intelligence' as evidenced by her rather astonishing success in forging, and maintaining, a thriving business enterprise. Assuming her goal is more barrister than solicitor oriented, one can only wonder at the effect the sheer intensity and power of her own personal presence will have in the courtroom. I say 'thumbs up' and 'YOU GO GIRL!!!!'.
While I don't currently practice, I have a law degree and bar admission to a couple of jurisdictions in the United States (not California). One thing to keep in mind is how greatly the laws differ from state to state. In analyzing these questions, you'd need to know what the common law said, what the seminal cases said (as well as which are no longer good law), as well as Federal and State laws that changed the common law. My first instinct on reading the questions (other than recoiling, having bar-exam PTSD!) was to think, "I wonder what state law says.") Law requires a tremendous breadth of knowledge in order to identify issues, and then depth and nuance to drill down. The first year of law-school is very common-law focused, although they tend to highlight certain state-specific differences; later on, you're expected to grok all of those all too. Thankfully, more than anything else, these type of exams are looking for strong analysis processes, but they can also require a surprising depth of knowledge considering that you aren't allowed reference material. There are dozens of issues for each of these questions, and part of the analysis is knowing which ones are the most important, which are real issues but red herrings, etc. (The actual bar exam does not give you a topic heading, such as Torts, Contracts, etc.) As a simple example of jurisdictional differences, if the first question instead took place in North Carolina (or a very few other states), the answerer would need to know that the state also still uses the "last clear chance" doctrine, and that the drivers would likely all argue about who had the last clear chance to avoid causing the accident. (Because under contributory negligence, if you are determined to be even 1% at fault, you are barred any recovery. Contrast with comparative negligence adopted by most states, which might simply reduce your recovery by the percentage you were determined to be at fault.) In the second question, right at the outset (after identifying that it would apply) you would need to know that California has adopted the Uniform Commercial Code (which almost all states have to some degree), and possibly which revision it adopted and whether it changed any pertinent parts when it was enacted by state legislation. I think California, Washington, Vermont, and Virgina are the only states that still allow "apprenticeships" that eventually permit you to sit for the bar exam, and traditionally the pass rates for such candidates are fairly abysmal; I certainly applaud Ms. Kardashian for trying and I sincerely hope she has the tenacity to follow through.
Thank you for your insight. There's a lot of people who are commenting who couldn't do what Kim did. Her trying is commendable. If people knew how often a lot of attorneys resit for The Bar, they'd be shocked. A dear friend of mine sat 3 times- said it was the most nerve wracking thing she's done.
My friend took the Bar exam and passed and practiced over 40 year before retiring, without having gone to law school. My friend is a very intelligent and smart woman.
Holy, you´re blessed with an angel´s voice. Could listen for hours. Anyways, that wasn´t a bad score. She shouldn´t give up and might get it on 2nd or 3rd try.
Nope, she scored even lower on her second try. Maybe she should stick to whatever it is she does, and leave the job of advocating for murderers to actual lawyers.
I did a bit of criminal law as part of my degree for two years and it was like this in every assignment/ exam 😂 the scenarios were funny sometimes. You had to think of every possible variation and then think again 💀
You have a really sweet and kind attitude, and I never thought there was a backstory to why she wanted to study law. I'm so impressed with her for caring about people who are wrongly incarcerated/given shady sentences, especially since she could easily ignore the rest of the world in her life of luxury. It's cool that she's already been able to do good with her high profile.
You would just recite alphabets and I would listen to you whole day. Your voice is so relaxing. Btw great video and informative too. Never stop making these
As someone who wants to be a lawyer, I feel for Kim and not doing well on the exam. Law-related exams are super difficult, and she should be proud of herself that she is not giving up.
I know im late, but I really apreciated this hardworking video. I could really tell the effort and preparation for this. As for Kim, I really admire her. I went trough uni without any other "duties" such as mom or worker (like kim), and it was quite hard getting to know myself and how to study for me, my career and so on. I can't imagine studying law without a study system or something similar, so props to her.
18 hours a week is far less than most law students study and attend class, even before you figure the self study penalty. Adding an extra year to the curriculum does not make up for the reduced time. My first year of law school, we read roughly 50 pages per class, 13 classes per week. Until I figured out what the professors were looking for, by the end of the first semester, I had to read and reread the assignments up to 3 times each. I read fast, but that was an enormous amount of time, just reading, not figuring in projects and studying for exams. 18 hours a week doesn't come close unless she has some form of eidetic memory or incredible retention.
I'm not even a Kardashian watcher but it's great to see she's following her father's footsteps into law. And I'm just about to start the process for an application to law training too.
In the live chat of another channel, they were talking about people become more respectable, reliable and relatable when a person is authentic about their imperfections. Someone then created a new word which I find very fitting here: Flawsome! Good for Kim! I didn't know she was capable of doing this. I live in the Netherlands, so I only heard vague descriptions and rumors because her show isn't broadcasted here. Glad to get confirmation that everyone has multiple sides to them, and everyone has their unique, sometimes hidden, value
Question 1. The first thing law students learn in Torts is "sue everyone". The philosophical way to approach this question is to (1) assume that no-one can be sued and (2) disprove each of the 3 arguments.
honestly i'm not a big fan of kuwtk or kim but i highly applaud and respect her for not only following her passion and heloing others, but even tho she is a little embarassed or disappointed, she's still sharing her failure and she knows that she has a lot more potential and can do better 👏👏👏
Kim K is the person I've never respected especially after her husband and Taylor's feud but now having a lot of courage to admit failure makes me reconsider it.
How ironical that the same channel that reviewed einstiens answer sheets, turing's answer sheets is now reviewing kardashian's answer sheets... how this happened 😂😂😂😂
If you're interested, ITA is the Instituto Tecnológico de Aeronáutica (Aeronautical Technological Institute) and IME is Instituto Militar de Engenharia (Engineering Institute of the Army) and they have the roughest exams in Brazil. See Vestibular ITA and Vestibular IME.
thank you for pointing out the passing rate. the Cal Bar Exam is the hardest in the country from what i’ve heard. mad respect for Kim K, she’ll be able to try again in a few months.
YES. The California state bar is HARD. Most lawyers I know, as a law student, fail their first bar. She is not studying traditionally making it all the more difficult for her.
can we also just take a moment to realize that the CA bar exam is one of the top 3 hardest bars to pass in the country. First is NY, second is CA, and third is Illinois ie. Chicago.
The only way to rank the difficulty of bar exams is by the pass rates for each state. Using this criteria, CA is the hardest and has been for many years. NY and IL aren't even close.
I see your problem with question 1. Both Mel and Otto were driving on the wrong side of the road. Also, the Baby Bar isn't taken by all law students, just students not attending "accredited" law schools. I always thought that was unfair, but it was initiated for a good reason. I think it was back in the 1970's, it was found that people going to unaccredited law schools would go to law school for the required four years, paying lots of money along the way, then a very high percentage would fail the real bar exam. This was a way to weed out law students that seemed unlikely to ever becoe licensed to practice law. By the way, I am not a lawyer, or ever tried to be. This is just info I picked up over the years.
I'm a fairly new viewer to Tibees' channel. I generally enjoy the videos she puts out. One of the draws for me to her channel is the way she speaks. There's a particular cadence to it that is just mesmerizing. Am I the only one?
Okay yeah, it is really hard to be tested on this many areas of law in one exam. Already, one exam in one area of law is difficult, so I could imagine this would be pretty darned hard. Also, how many times have I seen the name Sally in law exams? A lot!
TooManyHobbies the bar tests our knowledge in a bunch of areas we don’t intend to practice in. Do you care if your criminal defense lawyer for a murder charge against you didn’t do so hot on the contracts portion of the exam? Probably not.
Licensing exams in the US rarely have anything beyond pass/fail. It's the same for the first exam for engineering licenses -- around 70% for a passing grade, depending on the state. And you can only pass or fail.
@@EARSandelbows Similarly for some engineering licensing exams in Australia. I have sat radio technical licensing exams and aircraft maintenance licensing exams: the authorities (and through them, the general public) don't want people doing this work who only scraped through the exam knowing only 50% of the subject. I certainly don't want to fly on an aircraft maintained by someone who gets stuff wrong nearly half the time.
@@vk2igyeah i disagree. A variety of factors could come into play, some out of control, while others may have been because of you(in this case yeah I would agree).
That’s how nursing school is too. In fact, we needed at least a 75 in all courses to pass. Then we take an exam called the NCLEX, which is the nurse version of the Bar.
Honestly since I never lived in the US, Kardashians are not a celebrity to me. But this needs to commended. Great work Kim Kardashian! Hope you try again!
California's bar exams are notoriously difficult so it's not even surprising that she failed the first time. Especially with how busy she is doing other things
I remember from her Albert Einstein's video, she mentioned idealise ideas and not people. See we got another example. Thank you so much Tobby for these videos ❣️
I once took an exam for mining safety which focused mainly on State and Federal Law. Two full days of mixed essay and multiple choice (each section of multiple choice was regarded as a single question despite the number of multiple questions) and one day of explanation and demonstration of each type of safety equipment. The test had a significant failure rate. Considering the study required for this test above and beyond the requirements for my degree I find that Kim's test was more difficult. Self learning is not an easy task. I spent a year preparing and I was in a degree program that allowed the institutional comfort of sharing knowledge and being immersed in the subject. Her attempt was admirable, all the more so because it was outside her background.
I won't call him a "genius" because I don't like a guy like Abagnale being glorified, but he obviously had a great ability to learn quickly. Maybe he read Harry Lorayne's memory books or something.
Exactly! There are so many people way more gifted and smarter then Kim Kardashian. Seriously, how people can not understand that she is doing this only for attention?
@@robertat.8817 Then why didn't people know about this before she said she failed? You don't have to like her, but she tries something a lot of folks couldn't do.
Having studied Law at university, this is something we would do in our first year - however I could not imagine doing such an exam with no academic experience or guidance. Pros to Kim for trying!
@@lorindayeboahiddrisu4430 No sorry, I meant the content. In the UK each of those questions' subject is a module, so we have a 3 hour exam for each module (criminal, contract, tort etc). We would be asked to complete 3 questions per module in the exam, which were very similar to those baby bar ones. I've never done a 7 hour exam but I have done two 3 hour exams in the same day and that was enough for me lol!
The California Bar is notoriously difficult. It is considered one of the hardest bar exams in the country. Kudos to Kim for putting in the effort. Hopefully she will pass after retaking it
As I say in the video, I have a lot of respect for Kim pursuing studies and sharing her failures along the way. Most people fail this exam (I show pass rates near end of vid). Please don't leave judgemental comments, especially without even watching 💚
Timestamps: 0:00 Background, 2:28 Question 1, 5:09 Question 2, 6:44 Question 3, 10:03 Question 4, 10:41 Passing rates, 12:05 Patron Cat of the Day
Scammed me out of first :(
Okay I'm second
Okay I'm 3rd
One day i hope you make video about Leonardo Da Vinci and more about Nikola Tesla
Let her write JEE ADVANCED
Let's be honest: people are never happy. If she passed the first time around people would accuse her of fixing the test. I respect her honesty and dedication
Sooooo true!!
Exactly.
People would accuse her for paying something in the back (sorry for my bad english)
I appreciate her honesty. It takes courage to reveal that you failed at an exam.
Brooo exactly
@@sam2725 yeah she def didnt do bad AT ALL
yall would worship a celebrity just for saying "thank you"
Yes, I appreciate that she's doing something productive. But I appreciate even more that she shows her "failure". That takes a lot of courage.
Yeah she helped a lot of people who were wrongfully convicted of crime they did not commit.
@@Scarsofevil She did. But she’s also influenced millions of girls into unhealthy body standards. And she has increased the materialism and superficially of this world. I think that outweighs helping a few criminals [coming from a former criminal]
@@dahleno2014 Kim K is just a product of a society that promotes unrealistic body standards and materialism.
No Lives Matter the world was already superficial and materialistic. I’d like to see your favourite celebrity admit their failings because it takes a humble spirit to do that and that’s even more rare these days
I cannot stand both her and Kanye West, but as a law student who aspires to practice in Family Law, I can at least respect her willingness to pursue the profession despite her ridiculous wealth.
7 hours???? Jesus christ, I already want to die after a 3 hour exam, I couldnt imagine how much an exam twice that length would feel
yeah i recently gave a 8hr exam ,its not pretty
@@siddharthverma4017 Do you get to eat? Is there like a break?
@@PimpMatt0 a lil break that's it
Yep 8 hr exams are life draining. I just finished one recently... Two more to go...
JEE advance is a 6 hour exam with 0.01% acceptance rate. You can check the questions too to find their difficulty level. More than 1.4 million indians sit for JEE mains out of which 70,000 are selected for JEE advance and only 5000 get into IIT. I will be giving the exam next year.
Kudos to her for admitting her failure, I feel ashamed to tell even my close friends and family when I get a bad grade, I can't imagine the feeling she had.
Man, I felt that shame so badly when I failed medical school and was kicked out.
It’s all ratings, I presume.
thats wrong
If you have been conditioned in your life to that response, that is a huge problem
@@croissant4131 I've never been "conditioned to that response", but i still feel ashamed. Sometimes it can come back to perfectionism etc.
I told my mom the results aren't out because of Covid😂😂😂. So Kim is one brave person.
I’ve never had much respect for Kim K, but props to her for being willing to work this hard when she doesn’t have to.
She doesn't work at all
@@hubert8662 She does.
She really doesn't have to. But maybe she feels she does...
Clearly the fact the failed the test after a year on studying with a professional shows that she, in fact, did not work hard
It's about power, that's why.
The baby bar seems quite tough I could only imagine the actual bar exam.
This exam is a fair test for law students who've completed their first year. 3 years of law school is a big commitment, so students should know where they stand at the end of year 1. The final California bar exam is notoriously difficult.
@@rolandtours8404 well I’ve heard 1st yr law is also notoriously difficult. So theres that.
Person studying for the actual bar here. I can confirm its terrible :')
@@heatherblaire3269 you’re not alone! Sending positive vibes, best of luck! We got this 👊
@@heatherblaire3269 Why is it so many hours? Why can't it be broken down into multiple exams?
That first question is exactly why I will never be a lawyer lol
😂 I was thinking oh Nigel will be fine then he’s the only one with a charge
When I heard ‘the exam goes for 7 hours’ that’s exactly what I thought.
@@harryt5878 same 😂😂
true😆
@@harryt5878 Yea bc of causation.
She took a 7 hour test and nearly passed( she said she fell just below the passing mark) . That must be so energy draining. Props to her honestly.
My mum failed the BAR exam three times and then she passed the exam :).
Woohoo 🥳!! Kudos to your mom, that’s rockstar attitude 🙌🏻
I want that kind of determination. I always give Up too early
Congrats to your mom!!! That's a dedication
@@olxxa4967 never give up till you get it!!!
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honestly, even a near pass like she got is impressive considering her lifestyle. four children, a difficult relationship, a reality show, and all of her companies and other business ventures. power to her because my adhd brain struggles to do laundry and brush my teeth in the same day.
Lets not pretend Kim doesn't have assistants and probably cleaners so is just like normal people. Not taking away from her attempts at the exam however this isn't a level playing field at all - I'm surprised she didn't pass first time. She has access to human rights lawyers and her own legal team...
@@hannahhannah9555 She's a human being, that's why. Having assistants and cleaners is not going to take any of the stress away. They are there so that she's able to do other things. It's not humanely possible to have the capacity of doing so many tasks and work at once. She never stops working. I don't follow her on socials nor that I stan her, but it frustrates me to see people like you who always expect something big from someone, because they assume they have this and that, respectfully.
@@dudough1022 Let's praise all the non celebrity human beings that did pass the exam and 'had the capacity to do so many tasks at once' - my point was/is that the playing field in life is not level and celebrities get gold stars for merely attempting things when they are privileged...we put them on a pedestal and make excuses for them because they are rich, famous etc
I hope Kim becomes a lawyer in the future and we get to see her legally advocate for more disadvantaged people like she has done previously using her celebrity status.
She has maids babysitters managers etc, how about ppl who go to work m, study and have to do all the chores at home ?🤦🏻
Actually she hired an entourage of professionals to help her study and to explain the texts to her, but yes it is still impressive.
As much as people may dislike her, at least she is seeking to make a difference.
I think most people can look past the grotesque amounts of privilege if the person seems to be making a good-faith attempt to improve the world around them.
Wym. She can’t even stop wearing fur- and she and her family partakes in creating fast fashion companies for profit, taking advantage of factory workers.
Respect she tries sure, but making a difference... Nah not even close
@@domochan7598 Did you look to see if she stopped wearing fur? Did you look to see if she stopped using chinese sweatshops?
I did, and it wasn't hard to find that she had all her coats remade with faux fur and avoids using chinese labor.
@@Falcrist She is not a self made billionaire
The California Baby Bar exam is for students who are "reading law" (self taught) or people going to unaccredited law programs. Students in normal law schools do not have to take it. It's really hard to take these types of exams because you do not have a teacher pointing out the things that you must know to pass and you often spend a lot of time studying the things you do not need to know.
It's not exactly "self taught". Someone reading for the law has to apprentice with a practicing lawyer or judge, so there is still direction, and presumably instruction of some sort, but there is probably much more self teaching than would otherwise be the case.
And with that in mind, I don’t know how she fought 6 weeks - even of intense studying - was going to be sufficient…this is a test that is intended to judge the knowledge of a student who has completed one year of a full-time law program (in which case those students are likely spending at least 6-7 hours a day, but for a whole year…not 6 weeks).
Decent effort but…6 weeks was clearly never going to be sufficient to prepare. Nothing else for her to do but to keep studying and try again if she still wants to pursue this…
@@thefourshowflip right…6 weeks is really short
@@thefourshowflip She was also doing the apprenticeship though, which is supposed to "replace" the full-time law program, but seems that it's not as effective (?). Then again, the exam is very difficult, so she might have failed even in a traditional law program
@@cameronschyuder9034
It’s required to be an apprentice/intern in a law office in California, but that isn’t really going to help with the bar exam all that much. The bar exam, and law school in general, is intended to teach you how to think about the law from a legal Philosophy standpoint, whereas the apprenticeship is more likely to help teach you about the legal practice (though you will learn practice in law school and some philosophy from the law office)…how to think like a lawyer versus how to practice law. That line from my cousin Vinny (if you’ve seen it) is fairly accurate when he says that law school teaches you things like case law and principles while the law firm you’ll work for after graduating is supposed to teach you how to “be” a lawyer.
Not a Kim kardashian fan, but I really appreciate that she showed off her failure and despite her wealthy career she still decided to pursue the studies
HA. This was another PR stunt.
@@TrumpyBooden by "stunt", do you mean that you don't think she actually took the 7 hour exam? I think that alone is respectable, and apparently she was just below the bar of passing (meaning that she definitely studied). What is the stunt?
How is that admirable?? She's just studying cuz she can. She has all the time in the world lmao...
@@saumyavig8964 You do realize that these types of people would rather spend their time riding their 7th yacht rather than studying, right?
@@AmanomiyaJun they have a life full of oppurtunities and im pretty sure someday you would get bored of riding yachts in your free time(if you are just that rich).it was her prerogative, i dont see whats so admirable bout that?
Not a fan of Kim. But hey. I respect her dedication. Actually making a difference in the world, with her celebrity status
As someone who studied Law in the UK at the age of 16 and 17, I can say that the exams really push your memory. If you've a strong memory, they can be straightforward. If you have a memory like a sieve (like me!), then not so straightforward!
@@GrapheneTransistors Yes, sorry. I expressed it the way I did for the benefit of non-UK viewers!
Active learning bruh
High school law isn’t really comparable to law school
This sounded like you went to law school for a year in your teens.
@@MaxMustermann-hd7oe Haha, sorry!
I had the same thought. I am glad she is trying to do something productive and noble with herself, and I hope she tries again. Never been a fan, but I am always for someone bettering themselves in some way.
this is cool to hear about! and I didn't know about kim's activism, but prison reform is a really good cause.
Depends on the reform but sure. Most reform that I have seen recently is not reform.
@@Dkkm10 you said nothing
@@mamourizd no u
@@mamourizd found the Kim K fanboy
@@mamourizd prison I America is a crapshow. They are fed food with maggots and face c19 infection several times higher than the rest of the population. There’s never been real reform done because people don’t care. Kevin did say something valuable.
Seriously though, that first question had me laughing at the prospect of the question setters being like "ok, we've had a series of accidents involving cars. Everyone's doing the worst possible things at the worst possible times. Hmmm, and now for the finishing touch, let's add Penny the pedestrian to make the accident worse." Honestly the examiners i think are secretly psychopaths and supervillains with their elaborate schemes from this one question XD
Nobody cares about the facts the students have to show they know the fundamental principles and need to demonstrate skills and legal reasoning using them and to present their conclusions appropriately.
Two places where you'd find justice is first in scripture where Jesus is crucified for upholding it and second in the classroom where your teacher upholds it to teach you.
The real world is where one twists it, finds loopholes and abuses it.
@@JG27Korny i agree. I just found the scenarios funny XD
The whole point is making the situation as convoluted as possible and get the examinees to draw clear lines on what happened. A situation where everyone is partly guilty and a bystander unrelated to the event ended up getting hurt is exactly the type of situation people in law should be able to do because you don't always get clear cut cases.
Ikr 😂😂 really made me laugh
It's nice to have something not physics/maths related, very refreshing.
idk man i may be stupid but im confuse
Kim Kardashian's father was lawyer Robert George Kardashian who gained fame as O. J. Simpson's friend and one of his defense attorneys during O.J. Simpson's infamous 1995 murder trial.of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her boyfriend Ronald Lyle Goldman who were stabbed to death on June 12, 1994.
cool guy
She needs the law degree when Kanye inevitably does something stupid and lands in court.
@@MrCmon113 Huh? Thought they weren’t together??
She is following his legacy
Thanks Captain obvious
I never realized that Kim was doing so much or at least trying to do stuff for activism im glad to hear that she is more than just a celebrity flaunting her wealth
Page 44. "Doug decided to kill Bill"
Unintended joke? Overeager Autocorrect remembering a movie title?
Doug has some secret quirk that BIll found out, thus Bill had to be stopped
That is an excellent typo!!!
That first essay question made my head spin. I can't believe you need to write 4 of those essays. Wow.
It isnt that difficult If you would have studied. But I can imagine it is confusing for non law students.
Okay, I have to admit.. she got my respect on this one. First, admitting failure tells a lot about her character. I like that she's doing something good for herself with an aim to also help others.
I love the New Zealandization (Zealandisation?) of the road example. As this is an exam in the US, the cars would've been mirrored!
those are also 4 of the rarest names you will ever find in the US too
Funny. Being from NZ, I didn't even notice till I saw this comment.
We call ourselves kiwis just because the proper name is so confusing
On a serious note it's to look better on paper
Question 1 is the epitome of "that escalated quickly"
Any good lawyer would have found Penny at fault.
How? Isn't she an innocent bystander?
@@pooja350 Exactly, and any good lawyer could come up with a way to find her at fault anyways.
lol
Her crime: wrong place, wrong time
@@pooja350 By good lawyer, this person means a lawyer that usually wins process. Not 'good' like "GOOD" or like "Good doers".
(Sorry for my bad english)
You can see that Kim really made effort 10+ hours of studying a day is an effort especially for someone as rich as her she really deserves respect. Her score wasn't bad too I really hope she passes next time I'm glad of what she is trying to do
It's a shame I didn't get to know about her more wholesome achievements sooner. Mad respect to Kim
Promoting empathy and respect always gets an A+ in my book. I earned that for Kim Kardashian through this video, so a couple of A+'s are being sent in opposite directions from Europe as we speak :)
The California State Bar has been one of the 'toughest' ones since I took it many, many, many years ago. I was then just out of the Harvard Law School, and had several of my classmates fail it. The only one then considered as difficult in the US (to my recollection) was the one in New York. Ms. Kardashian has MORE than demonstrated her 'real world intelligence' as evidenced by her rather astonishing success in forging, and maintaining, a thriving business enterprise. Assuming her goal is more barrister than solicitor oriented, one can only wonder at the effect the sheer intensity and power of her own personal presence will have in the courtroom. I say 'thumbs up' and 'YOU GO GIRL!!!!'.
What an interesting topic, I never would have thought to research this on my own, thanks
I never in a million years would have thought that law exams were this fun!
If you have the time could you please do a review of Britain's A-Levels examination? I would really appreciate it!
I second this request
@29_Ryan Yeo • I agree.
I agree.
Ayyye I fifth this
It’s bare hard-A brit
Made me realize, non judgement..is the best..
yea man, being unaccepting of other people will eventually push that to yourself
While I don't currently practice, I have a law degree and bar admission to a couple of jurisdictions in the United States (not California). One thing to keep in mind is how greatly the laws differ from state to state. In analyzing these questions, you'd need to know what the common law said, what the seminal cases said (as well as which are no longer good law), as well as Federal and State laws that changed the common law. My first instinct on reading the questions (other than recoiling, having bar-exam PTSD!) was to think, "I wonder what state law says.")
Law requires a tremendous breadth of knowledge in order to identify issues, and then depth and nuance to drill down. The first year of law-school is very common-law focused, although they tend to highlight certain state-specific differences; later on, you're expected to grok all of those all too. Thankfully, more than anything else, these type of exams are looking for strong analysis processes, but they can also require a surprising depth of knowledge considering that you aren't allowed reference material. There are dozens of issues for each of these questions, and part of the analysis is knowing which ones are the most important, which are real issues but red herrings, etc. (The actual bar exam does not give you a topic heading, such as Torts, Contracts, etc.)
As a simple example of jurisdictional differences, if the first question instead took place in North Carolina (or a very few other states), the answerer would need to know that the state also still uses the "last clear chance" doctrine, and that the drivers would likely all argue about who had the last clear chance to avoid causing the accident. (Because under contributory negligence, if you are determined to be even 1% at fault, you are barred any recovery. Contrast with comparative negligence adopted by most states, which might simply reduce your recovery by the percentage you were determined to be at fault.) In the second question, right at the outset (after identifying that it would apply) you would need to know that California has adopted the Uniform Commercial Code (which almost all states have to some degree), and possibly which revision it adopted and whether it changed any pertinent parts when it was enacted by state legislation.
I think California, Washington, Vermont, and Virgina are the only states that still allow "apprenticeships" that eventually permit you to sit for the bar exam, and traditionally the pass rates for such candidates are fairly abysmal; I certainly applaud Ms. Kardashian for trying and I sincerely hope she has the tenacity to follow through.
How to learn law better?
Thank you for your insight. There's a lot of people who are commenting who couldn't do what Kim did. Her trying is commendable. If people knew how often a lot of attorneys resit for The Bar, they'd be shocked. A dear friend of mine sat 3 times- said it was the most nerve wracking thing she's done.
My friend took the Bar exam and passed and practiced over 40 year before retiring, without having gone to law school. My friend is a very intelligent and smart woman.
Holy, you´re blessed with an angel´s voice. Could listen for hours.
Anyways, that wasn´t a bad score. She shouldn´t give up and might get it on 2nd or 3rd try.
She has a really good accent. She's from NZ
Angels are male in persona.. not female.
@@JesuslovesRudy ever seen Anya Taylor-Joy?
@@JesuslovesRudy I thought they had no gender.
Nope, she scored even lower on her second try. Maybe she should stick to whatever it is she does, and leave the job of advocating for murderers to actual lawyers.
I did a bit of criminal law as part of my degree for two years and it was like this in every assignment/ exam 😂 the scenarios were funny sometimes. You had to think of every possible variation and then think again 💀
You have a really sweet and kind attitude, and I never thought there was a backstory to why she wanted to study law. I'm so impressed with her for caring about people who are wrongly incarcerated/given shady sentences, especially since she could easily ignore the rest of the world in her life of luxury. It's cool that she's already been able to do good with her high profile.
You would require extra time to make the car cutouts
You would just recite alphabets and I would listen to you whole day. Your voice is so relaxing. Btw great video and informative too. Never stop making these
As someone who wants to be a lawyer, I feel for Kim and not doing well on the exam. Law-related exams are super difficult, and she should be proud of herself that she is not giving up.
I know im late, but I really apreciated this hardworking video. I could really tell the effort and preparation for this.
As for Kim, I really admire her. I went trough uni without any other "duties" such as mom or worker (like kim), and it was quite hard getting to know myself and how to study for me, my career and so on. I can't imagine studying law without a study system or something similar, so props to her.
Kim’s father was Robert Kardashian, who was a lawyer on the infamous OJ Simpson trial before he died in 2003.
18 hours a week is far less than most law students study and attend class, even before you figure the self study penalty. Adding an extra year to the curriculum does not make up for the reduced time. My first year of law school, we read roughly 50 pages per class, 13 classes per week. Until I figured out what the professors were looking for, by the end of the first semester, I had to read and reread the assignments up to 3 times each. I read fast, but that was an enormous amount of time, just reading, not figuring in projects and studying for exams. 18 hours a week doesn't come close unless she has some form of eidetic memory or incredible retention.
Makes me respect Kim even more. Good on her! Proves she isnt what some might think.
I'm not even a Kardashian watcher but it's great to see she's following her father's footsteps into law. And I'm just about to start the process for an application to law training too.
In the live chat of another channel, they were talking about people become more respectable, reliable and relatable when a person is authentic about their imperfections. Someone then created a new word which I find very fitting here: Flawsome!
Good for Kim! I didn't know she was capable of doing this. I live in the Netherlands, so I only heard vague descriptions and rumors because her show isn't broadcasted here. Glad to get confirmation that everyone has multiple sides to them, and everyone has their unique, sometimes hidden, value
Actually, I am surprised. Something positive to see such change.
Question 1. The first thing law students learn in Torts is "sue everyone". The philosophical way to approach this question is to (1) assume that no-one can be sued and (2) disprove each of the 3 arguments.
So relaxing voice
Edit:-Omg I just saw 130 likes thanks
honestly i'm not a big fan of kuwtk or kim but i highly applaud and respect her for not only following her passion and heloing others, but even tho she is a little embarassed or disappointed, she's still sharing her failure and she knows that she has a lot more potential and can do better 👏👏👏
Kim K is the person I've never respected especially after her husband and Taylor's feud but now having a lot of courage to admit failure makes me reconsider it.
Thank you for your creativity, determination, hard work, information, and kindness. The video was well done!
How ironical that the same channel that reviewed einstiens answer sheets, turing's answer sheets is now reviewing kardashian's answer sheets... how this happened 😂😂😂😂
Kim K is such a queen for showing her struggles in life.
Tibees, nice video! Please, if you have time, review the ITA and IME exams from brazil!
Yeah, we are really interested in your opinion about the difficulty level while compared to other exams.
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If you're interested, ITA is the Instituto Tecnológico de Aeronáutica (Aeronautical Technological Institute) and IME is Instituto Militar de Engenharia (Engineering Institute of the Army) and they have the roughest exams in Brazil. See Vestibular ITA and Vestibular IME.
thank you for pointing out the passing rate. the Cal Bar Exam is the hardest in the country from what i’ve heard. mad respect for Kim K, she’ll be able to try again in a few months.
you can solve the toughest exam for entrance in Brazil? It calls Instituto tecnológico de aeronáutica (ITA)
YES. The California state bar is HARD. Most lawyers I know, as a law student, fail their first bar. She is not studying traditionally making it all the more difficult for her.
can we also just take a moment to realize that the CA bar exam is one of the top 3 hardest bars to pass in the country. First is NY, second is CA, and third is Illinois ie. Chicago.
The only way to rank the difficulty of bar exams is by the pass rates for each state. Using this criteria, CA is the hardest and has been for many years. NY and IL aren't even close.
Love the flurry of new videos over the past few weeks.
Wow! from Mathematics and Physics to now Law. Unbelievable Tibees 😲
I see your problem with question 1. Both Mel and Otto were driving on the wrong side of the road.
Also, the Baby Bar isn't taken by all law students, just students not attending "accredited" law schools. I always thought that was unfair, but it was initiated for a good reason. I think it was back in the 1970's, it was found that people going to unaccredited law schools would go to law school for the required four years, paying lots of money along the way, then a very high percentage would fail the real bar exam. This was a way to weed out law students that seemed unlikely to ever becoe licensed to practice law.
By the way, I am not a lawyer, or ever tried to be. This is just info I picked up over the years.
In question 1 everybody is driving on the wrong side of the road, so everybody apart from Penny is guilty! QED
I'm a fairly new viewer to Tibees' channel. I generally enjoy the videos she puts out. One of the draws for me to her channel is the way she speaks. There's a particular cadence to it that is just mesmerizing. Am I the only one?
1:10 Donald looks pretty happy there
more like pretending to be happy bot actually happy
Media often used his worst pic... wonder why.
Okay yeah, it is really hard to be tested on this many areas of law in one exam. Already, one exam in one area of law is difficult, so I could imagine this would be pretty darned hard. Also, how many times have I seen the name Sally in law exams? A lot!
A minimum of 70 percent just to pass?! I initially thought it would be the minimum score for passing with distinction.
A 90-100, B 80-89, C 70-79, below that is flunking. I personally don't want a lawyer that gets it wrong 30% of the time.
TooManyHobbies the bar tests our knowledge in a bunch of areas we don’t intend to practice in. Do you care if your criminal defense lawyer for a murder charge against you didn’t do so hot on the contracts portion of the exam? Probably not.
Licensing exams in the US rarely have anything beyond pass/fail. It's the same for the first exam for engineering licenses -- around 70% for a passing grade, depending on the state. And you can only pass or fail.
@@EARSandelbows Similarly for some engineering licensing exams in Australia. I have sat radio technical licensing exams and aircraft maintenance licensing exams: the authorities (and through them, the general public) don't want people doing this work who only scraped through the exam knowing only 50% of the subject. I certainly don't want to fly on an aircraft maintained by someone who gets stuff wrong nearly half the time.
@@vk2igyeah i disagree. A variety of factors could come into play, some out of control, while others may have been because of you(in this case yeah I would agree).
Hey entrance exams aren’t for everyone , so I appreciate when Kim admits that she has failed in something
She has passed an exam ever?
Your voice is so calming, clear and composed. Very very nice.
Please pray for my engineering exam, that would help.🙂
Good.luck!
I could sit here and listen to her talk for hours.
i know how it feels to miss a test by a few points. i'm proud of Kim
I was having an awful anxiety attack and your voice calmed me down, thank you.
Needing 70% of the points for passing is crazy.
That’s how nursing school is too. In fact, we needed at least a 75 in all courses to pass. Then we take an exam called the NCLEX, which is the nurse version of the Bar.
That’s after taking multiple tests just to get into nursing school.
Isnt that the case for most courses?
@@ejane2112 not at all. In my opinion, 70% is not a passing grade, but rather a C or a B.
50% is a D.
@@kataetwas2825 Hmm at every course I took 70% was the bare minimum to pass a test
i love to see someone becoming a better person
falling is fine,I hope Kim goes on with her journey
Very cool to see you encouraging her. I hope she keeps at it.
Honestly since I never lived in the US, Kardashians are not a celebrity to me. But this needs to commended. Great work Kim Kardashian! Hope you try again!
@Trance - 009 Sound System Dreamscape well I certainly hear about them on social media a lot.
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California's bar exams are notoriously difficult so it's not even surprising that she failed the first time. Especially with how busy she is doing other things
I remember from her Albert Einstein's video, she mentioned idealise ideas and not people.
See we got another example.
Thank you so much Tobby for these videos ❣️
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE yeah! Me too. She influenced many people with her choice.
this is such a gentle and kind video
Tibees describing a murder case in the softest voice imaginable. You remind me of Phoebe Judge =D
I once took an exam for mining safety which focused mainly on State and Federal Law. Two full days of mixed essay and multiple choice (each section of multiple choice was regarded as a single question despite the number of multiple questions) and one day of explanation and demonstration of each type of safety equipment. The test had a significant failure rate. Considering the study required for this test above and beyond the requirements for my degree I find that Kim's test was more difficult. Self learning is not an easy task. I spent a year preparing and I was in a degree program that allowed the institutional comfort of sharing knowledge and being immersed in the subject. Her attempt was admirable, all the more so because it was outside her background.
Fun fact: Frank Abagnale passed the bar exam from Lousiana by only studying 8 weeks
I won't call him a "genius" because I don't like a guy like Abagnale being glorified, but he obviously had a great ability to learn quickly. Maybe he read Harry Lorayne's memory books or something.
Exactly! There are so many people way more gifted and smarter then Kim Kardashian. Seriously, how people can not understand that she is doing this only for attention?
I thought it was 6 months
@@robertat.8817 Then why didn't people know about this before she said she failed? You don't have to like her, but she tries something a lot of folks couldn't do.
@@deltasaves most people can't do? What? Studying for an exam? Everyone can do it, just sit and study....
Great video! I admire what Kim is doing here and am happy to see others respectfully share it as well
Having studied Law at university, this is something we would do in our first year - however I could not imagine doing such an exam with no academic experience or guidance. Pros to Kim for trying!
Y'all first years were able to sit down for a 12 hour exam? I know somebody's lying
@@lorindayeboahiddrisu4430 No sorry, I meant the content. In the UK each of those questions' subject is a module, so we have a 3 hour exam for each module (criminal, contract, tort etc). We would be asked to complete 3 questions per module in the exam, which were very similar to those baby bar ones. I've never done a 7 hour exam but I have done two 3 hour exams in the same day and that was enough for me lol!
This is only a reflection of a portion of the exam. The other section is the multiple choice section or MBE which consists of 100 questions.
I recommend a Singaporean O level exam to try out
Man your voice is sooooooo soothing I don't know why but when i watch your videos i just calm down extremely
wow the issues in these questions are from my 2nd and 3rd year law classes, can't imagine doing this after only a year
Yeah it’s very humble of her to admit this openly. Good for her.
She passed guys
A Moroccan passed by from here. I love your channel
The California Bar is notoriously difficult. It is considered one of the hardest bar exams in the country. Kudos to Kim for putting in the effort. Hopefully she will pass after retaking it
Came here after Kim passed her bar exam ... Good for her