Use my code MARS10 and link: bit.ly/curioBKMar22 to get 10% off (save up to $47!) your own authentic Japanese subscription box from Bokksu! Don't miss out on this amazing snack-journey through Japan! FAQs: -you can find a full version of the outro track here: ua-cam.com/video/GCPV9W53EZI/v-deo.html -most of my old videos are unlisted because I'm uncomfortable with people watching and commenting on videos of me looking so different. My Snyder video is unlisted because over time I became unhappy with the finished product of the essay - I think it really got away from talking about how movies communicate ideology and focused too much on Snyder as a person, which was not the intention. -employment statistics aside, the CONTROL of banks in the Weimar Republic was never in the hands of anyone but the German state, and claim that "jews control the banks" is a nazi lie. -no, I am not a liberal, no I do not think all conspiracy theories are completely made up from whole cloth. watch the video -voices in the video were: (in order) John Duncan (ua-cam.com/users/JohntheDuncan) as George Galloway; Shaun (ua-cam.com/users/ShaunandnotJen) as Jimmy Dore; Sam (ua-cam.com/users/WereInHell) as the authors of Creating Conspiracy Beliefs; FD Signifier (ua-cam.com/users/FDSignifire) as Michael Barkun; Jess (ua-cam.com/users/ThatJess) as Hillary Clinton; Mildred (ua-cam.com/users/ThoughtSlime) as Caleb Maupin; Henry (ua-cam.com/users/BigJoel) as Peter Coffin; and Lua (ua-cam.com/channels/GZrqXTq3GW2wNRz9M44Baw.html) as Grayzone. Bibliography (this doesn't include all studies, but most of the studies are referenced in the books): Culture of Conspiracy, Michael Barkun American Conspiracy Theories, JM Parent & JE Uscinski Creating Conspiracy Beliefs: How Our Thoughts Are Shaped, Albarracin et al www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6282974/ journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0963721417718261 The Paranoid Style in American Politics, Hofstadter Manufacturing Consent, Noam Chomsky On the Origins of Totalitarianism, Hannah Arendt Eichmann in Jerusalem, Hannah Arendt# The Shock Doctrine, Naomi Klein Debt, The First 5000 Years, David Graeber Climate Leviathan, Joel Wainwright & Geoff Mann Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, Vladimir Lenin Das Kapital, Karl Marx ua-cam.com/video/KAFbpWVO-ow/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Hcr-nj4i-lw/v-deo.html www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60600487 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources ua-cam.com/video/5wRDLf54Scs/v-deo.html communemag.com/the-american-roots-of-a-right-wing-conspiracy/ www.history.com/news/why-the-public-stopped-believing-the-government-about-jfks-murder fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-one-thing-in-politics-most-americans-believe-in-jfk-conspiracies/ observer.com/2016/02/hillarys-email-trail-of-troubling-anti-israel-conversations/ www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/11/how-right-embraced-russian-disinformation-about-us-bioweapons-labs-ukraine/ ua-cam.com/video/41B5YonixBs/v-deo.html
Hey Sophie, I browsed your channel the other day after seeing this premiere upcoming hoping to share another one of your old Volume videos with my dad (he’s pretty heckin left and so’s everyone else in the family it’s great) but I noticed those playlists were all gone. I believe they were titled, from 1 to 3, Time, Validation, and Control respectively? Since they’re no longer on UA-cam, could I find these someplace else?
I wish I could buy Bokksu, but with the price of the dollar and the shipping to my country, it is impossibly expensive for me.... Hearing you talk about the jelly from Kanagawa almost made me cry, I miss my life in Kanagawa so much sometimes...
That's such a good and funny observation. And we all know they are usually referring to one person as well, thus proving the common usage of they in the singular.
All working class people are straight apparently, there are 0 working class people who are members of lgbt apparently, the conservative left seem to think all working class people are the same, white and straight
I just got to say, as a Jewish person conspiracies are exhausting. Like... I once had to explain to a friend that the blood libel isn't real, because her church taught her it was... This was 10 years ago (Yes in America) It's genuinely depressing that people are more likely to think all Jews are rich than know how to pronounce Chanukah
Honestly, it kind of feels very similar to the "one joke" right-wingers have about gender-nonconforming people. In the case of the latter it's always helicopters with extra steps, and with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories it's always blood libel with extra steps.
@@zoushaomenohu not really, that comparison is a bit of a stretch. I kinda get what you mean, but I still think the two have more difference than similarities
But arent you glad you have streamers debunking the hard questions like "are jews bloodsucking vampires actually?" Instead of questions like "how do we support and protect our jewish brothers and sisters?"
As a fellow Jew, I couldn't agree more. I'm just sick of antisemitism being a part of every social circle I've had outside my own community. From the awful antisemitic attacks against my home as a child & almost every synagogue I've belonged to, kids in school bullying me as the only Jew in school in a very Xstian town, to my friends making "jokes", to all political circles, to every space online at the moment...it's just still everywhere in our world & as Jews we've been taught/expected to not bring attention to ourselves & never to respond.
Okay, as one of the people who was deeply influenced by Philosophy Tube's Steve Bannon video, I have to say, with a fireman costume like that, I'm now all-in.
I'm going nuts at "Natalie Wynn's sudden rise" when like - she deleted her old, less viewed, videos because of dysphoria. If caleb had any intellectual honesty at all it would be abundantly clear that she had a pretty normal 'discovered by youtube and steadily grew' journey. It's like if you started a conspiracy that some famous actor was an alien shapeshifter because they "exploded out of nowhere" but they have like a really long career as a TV and stage actor you just didn't care to look up.
Yeah, writing a whole-ass book about Breadtube, and not even knowing these basic histories is absurd. Like, what, he discovered BreadTube in 2021 cause he was bored during the shutdowns? It's super fucking weird.
@@glenn_desert_witch nah he discovered breadtube bc a few ppl dunked on him and then he declared war on the whole idea of breadtube (or whatever the fuck he thinks breadtube is, which is he v obviously wrong about)
Just imagining queen Elizabeth throwing down the money for the Philosophy Tube video where Abby explains that every femme attracted person in the UK wants to make love to the queen, like, “this content gets the royal stamp of approval, we’re getting exactly what we paid for.” Makes me laugh so hard.
Abigail made a whole video about having a title in their family past and how she had to deconstruct the pride she took from that and has rejected the whole royal loyalty thing. (I am not saying this well). She’s on a horse and is an older video.
I believed all the parts of the video that fit my historical and emotional understanding, but I was deeply disappointed that this video made the mistake of not completely fitting my historical and emotional understanding. Clearly, the author of this video must be a CIA spy.
99.9% of conspiracy theories boil down to “It’s us” (I’m Jewish). Sophie, THANK YOU for emphasizing the INHERENT ANTISEMITISM in conspiratorial thinking.
I think this is a dangerous line of thinking really. What if the conspiracies were anti semitic? Or just didn't involve Jews at all? I just think anti-semites see it as ripe ground to insert their prejudices. And I think if you say "99.9% of all conspiracy theories are anti semitic" - you're ceding the anti-semites all of that ground. Suddenly the UFO community is anti-semitic and so on.
That's a lie. Strangely, you'll say "itth jutht exaggeration" By british imperial defintion, its not a lie. That the official definition of the british ruling class, a bunch of liars. To everyone else its a lie And the british empire is now part of 'the west', its the bs voice of the west ... listen to them defend you know who, and the big bullies too, and nazis in ukraine ... they are the voice of the empire, maybe not the controlling faction, or maybe they are ... 'The west' is, at least partly, a zorg (adjusted to aoid a dumb machine censorship*) empire Its complicated But this lie is part of their propaganda e.g. a posh guy questions stab safety, and he's accused of we-all-know-what .... because of exactly the corporate mantra you repeated ... questionning imperial media and corporate politics is supposedly antisemitic ... same excuse used to get rid of Corbyn and old lefties from the now re-poshed and re-pretentioused re-blairitised labour (still mnot as zorg as the serving-the-con 'party' party, but zorg-tolerant and zorg-defending nonetheless) ... * and the liars are now semi-universally calling dumb programmed machines 'AI', since a few months ago ... ffs
Fun fact about that back cover of Maupin’s book: that’s the entirely default cover Amazon gives you when formatting your self-pubbed novels. The font, the layout, the basic black that they recommend replacing with a wraparound. It’s literally the bare minimum.
As an actual social scientist that studies conspiracy belief, I can say....you did your freaking homework! Seriously, it's weird to see what seems like the lit review from a research paper I'm currently writing basically be described back to me by someone awesome. I mean, seems almost a little *too much* like my lit review.....hmm..... 🧐😅 Keep being amazing!
@BIG PARTY maybe it would help to look at this more of a gateway than anything. Sometimes you just need a silly lady with a fun video that feels low stakes to get you thinking, and ultimately researching. I know we're at the point where shit is so dire that we need to have mobilized last decade, but humans are still human and we do still need some ground floor media to start the process of moving them over to anti capitalism.
@@Shigan4059 I'm defending the Conderacy for showing just how evil slavery was to most Northerners who were completely clueless and had bought into Southern and colonial propaganda.
@@Music34897As great of a choice as Mildred "Thought Slime" Thoughtslime is for such a role, I think Dan "Folding Ideas" Olson would have done an incredible read of Borger Kang
My take on Epstein is still that the hit men from Clinton, Trump, and multiple other parties all ran into each other that night in the prison, and had to draw straws to determine who actually got to do the deed.
ya that was funny @1:34:35. just "when a youtube channel became popular, that is a skeleton in their closet!". and then...putting that right next to, uhh...something more serious
Also, I personally knew a trans girl who was being groomed by Maupin personally to adopt his worldview and eventually cut off me and my friends entirely. It got to the point where we had a sit down and talk about what we could do, but we couldn't think of anything. That was months ago, and I don't know if she's okay or what she's doing, but I will always despise Maupin for everything he's done and all the horrific shit he's pulled.
i know you made this comment a while ago now, but that is... deeply concerning, considering some of the things that have come out about caleb maupin as of late. i sincerely hope your friend is okay, and hope you manage to get in touch with her now that his little cult operation is effectively breaking apart
@@okayokayfineilldoit I hope so too, what's horrifically fucked is that Maupin invited her out to a remote cabin *as soon as* she turned 18, hence the conversation. I still haven't heard from her, but I hope she's okay.
@@RaeIsGaee yeah this is so concerning! You have to remember the onus is not on you to get your friend out, but if at all possible just be there for her in the fallout. Also if you know her parents, her romantic partner, or any other trusted people in her close circle it would be good to alert them, again if at all possible. She may get angry at you for that action but ultimately having more eyes on her is a better thing at this time. Also remember to take care of yourself too, it can be very scary going through something like this and not being able to have control! Especially when to you, it all seems so clear. I wish you and your friend the best.
@Spider Creature No idea, haven't heard from her since she went to that thing. I vaguely remember asking a mutual friend about her a few months ago, and they said she's okay, so.
@@johannageisel5390 my actual ukrainian teachers who served during soviet-chinese conflict told us that soviets cut the tips of chinese guns with btr mounted laser and they run in panic, ending the conflict. This is quoted as fact by many older people.
At the beginning i was literally like "That sounds far fetched, but Sophie would never LIE to me!" And then you revealed that you lied. My heart is broken, i will never trust anyone ever again
It literally doesn't sound far fetched at all. Part of COINTELPRO was creating anarchist 'zines which could be used to say "both sides bad" for Vietnam and such. It was called The Workshop: In internal documents, the FBI stressed that “the publisher and the writers should be strictly anarchist.” Why? Because the cops recognized that “the anarchist position could take any direction, such as an attack on Vietnam policies as well as an attack on the Soviets in Czechoslovakia.” “The anarchists point of view is the most disruptive element in the New Left and should be capitalized on in the most confusing ways,” the feds added. The FBI recognized that anarchist ideology could be used to de-politicize the leftist struggle, writing that the publication would “reach wider circulation if it were not so political as to be tied to dogma such as the line of MAO or CHE GUEVARA.” The FBI also planned to use the anarchist newspaper to attack leftist Black nationalist and pan-Africanist leaders, singling out Stokely Carmichael (Kwame Ture)."
I see why transphobes, conspiracists, et al are mad at you: you've lapped them at life! You're insightful, compassionate, funny, sexy, and exuberant; so that your light must actually burn them. Great video, and that lace-bordered tee is super cute!
tbf seeing him animated joel haver style while going on absolutely unhinged rants activated my fight or flight everytime I saw it so maybe it was warranted
For me the point at which the "Breadtube is a conspiracy" theory reached its height of stupidity was when Peter Coffin claimed Lindsay Ellis quit due to the Grayzone's supposedly stunning expose of her audiobook reader Abigail Thorn.
And I have to wonder about that too because Lindsay had a direct tie to the US government through PBS. But Peter never brought that up, maybe because that would make Bob Ross and Mr. Rogers also government agents, and they thought that would sound even dumber? I don’t know at this point.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 It feels like they're too eager by half for attention & their desire to not only _always_ be a contrarian, but also always be right.
Love the “antif-ire department” framing, made this anti-fascist child of a firefighter smile You did a fantastic job with this video, Sophie, 2.5 hours of my life (and many many more of yours) well-spent imo
the difference is her video was about fascism and Sophie's is about conspiracy theories, with the link being the conception of fascist bigotry as inherently conspiratorial. so you get the analogy with the arsonist getting more focus in philosophy tubes video, and with Sophie you get "throwing water on the oil fire" to mean throwing facts on a problem of emotional truth
did you voice a section or two in here, or am i doing that yt (generally) person thing and being unable to differentiate people who talk differently than myself? edit: didnt read the other comments. survey appears to say "yes"
there was also a moment that used inflection similar to innuendo studios, and (as always) comedy bits similar to hbomberguy. and perhaps a conclusion rant similar to Dan Olsen (including "book-ending" by repeating a phrase from earlier in the video)
Very much appreciate you touching on the weird cognitive dissonance a lot of terminally online communists had regarding the invasion of Ukraine. One particularly miserable tumblr user kept swearing up and down that it was NATO fearmongering and even went as far to make a post saying "Happy Invasion Day" when it didn't happen, right before it did. Then he like, backpedalled super hard and claimed we as westerners shouldn't be commenting on world events we don't understand before then proceding to hyperfocus on every (extremely fucked up and braindead) decision the Ukrainian government made regarding future policy with like the implication that Russia was in the right to invade them? I dunno! Just a really bad guy! Wonderful video, btw. This filthy anarchist enjoyed it greatly!
@@Bisquick I'll save you the trouble of writing a part 2, you do not need to write a novel to convince me to hate NATO. I do it enough in my spare time as it is. My point was more people making light of one country invading another, which I am always opposed to.
raised by a person who has believed deeply in leftist conspiracy theories since the bush era here. thank you so much for this video, sophie, it's helped me better understand where the kremlin apologia is coming from, and that the gray zone is even worse than i thought.
I gotta say, seeing Maupin talk at a conference with a whole spectacle of two people standing hand in hand with the soviet and american flags in front of a monolithic representation of Abraham Lincoln while the fuckin STAR SPANGLED BANNER blares in the background truly awestruck me, even for him. Like, this is bioshock infinite levels of on the nose.
It's half true. Several royal charities are funded by the royal family, including this one. But this isn't weird. The richest people put lots of money into charities. And this is a source of money for UA-camrs.
Knowing how terminally online one has to be to even find themselves deep in leftist youtube content to begin with, I find the notion that the Queen or the CIA would see enough value in the platform to install plants in the first place to be hilarious.
@@hazzardalsohazzard2624 It's wild how the conspiracy left exploded over not knowing how charities are in the uk. Like, the RSPCA are not controlled by the royal family, britain is just a parody of itself and so our charities are adverts for our monarchy.
I definitely agree with that emotional aspect of conspiracy theories. I'm a trans guy, however I've got a pretty bad case of OCD, though I've been improving lately. Occasionally when things get difficult to deal with and the compulsions aren't enough, I begin having seasons of overactive paranoia, which leads to conspiracy theories. After I'd come out as trans I was dealing with a lot of negative backlash and (legitimate) gaslighting from family members and others around me. Most of the people doing this were women, who refused to allow me an identity outside of my biology. so because I couldn't emotionally deal with it I started obsessing over this idea that women aren't actually real, and it's some fake bioengineering created by a pseudo patriarchy. I never told anyone about this, because I was aware this idea was delusional and it lead me to think in a very misogynistic way about the women around me, and I knew that was harmful. and it was unhealthy because while the idea was based on pre-existing oppression of trans people and women, I'd altered it so that it only benefitted me, and no one else.
I know I’m just a stranger but I wanted to say both that I can relate albeit with details switched, and also that it’s very good that you’re self-aware about that!! Hanging onto my self-analysis that I know it’s just stuff I got myself worked up into a weird spiral about was sometimes the only bungee rope I had left. Demonisation and harassment from anti-trans folks definitely doesn’t help, I hope things are improving for you now ☺️
Hey friend I'm sorry you went through such a hard time coming out. I had a similar experience and believed in some incel conspiracys about women. I don't have ocd but I was a severe alcoholic and just addicted to the conspiracy theories and hatred and some were just really really goofy. It wasn't until I was more open about my truama in therapy and around my friends while opening up about these conspiracy theories that I was able to get out. I hope your around people who are kind and also getting some mental health help.
Hey, I know I don’t know you, and I’ve never been trans, but I have had really, really bad OCD, and I want you to know that I care about and support you. It’s a terrible, alienating illness, and I know that it’s really, really hard to make people around you understand it. I can’t even conceive how that horrible it must have been for that to intersect with people around you not acknowledging your gender. Glad to hear it’s starting to get better for you: there was a time in my life when it seemed like I couldn’t get better, but I eventually have. You’ve got this!
If you're ever feeling wildly unethical, you could 100% sell some ebooks if you just banged out a couple hundred pages of incoherent ranting about the bio-patriarchy's woman delusion.
1:41:41 when Maupin says the absolute dumbest shit about Lenin, I was ready to joke about "yeah, Lenin totally would want to write about how Contrapoints making the mouth feel a meme distances the proletariat", but seeing Peter and their partner nod so enthusiastically genuinely broke my brain. Like... It's one thing to be a guy so sure you're living up to what Daddy Marx and Lenin wanted, but it's another thing for two other people to immediately cosign that
lenin was the worlds first poster and its revisionism to say otherwise, the state and revolution was one massive shitposting thread about Kautsky prove me wrong
one of your best videos! Brava! and as an Eastern European leftist, I have to say I am relieved to see one of my favourite content creators not fall for the "anti imperialism" line popular among some western leftists
There's a fun anecdote about a bunch of linguistics students going to a Noam Chomsky meeting and walking away wondering what the hell consent manufacturing had to do with linguistics.
My favorite conspiracy theory is that the CIA occasionally feeds Alex Jones real information while continuously feeding him the most ridiculous bullshit, that way when he does occasionally get something right, the entire world equates what he's saying with "They're turning the fricken frogs gay" and discount it.
A good example of that is actually the “turning the frogs gay” quote itself. Look up videos the study that he’s misrepresenting and the interactions between the author, the fda, and a big pharmaceutical company.
Wouldn’t be the first time the Feds used a crank to cover up a genuine conspiracy theory. Richard Doty claimed that he was charged by the US Airforce with “leaking” falsified documents to UFO researchers to cover up the covert development of aircraft for the US Military and CIA. By convincing UFO researchers that what they were seeing weren’t spy plane tests but alien landings they hoped to push these people into mental breakdowns and discredit their observations to the public. Essentially the US Military gaslit UFO cranks to discredit their observations because they were worried someone would eventually take a closer look and figure out what they were seeing weren’t alien space ships but military spy planes. If the whole world believes UFO Researchers are just insane most people will just assume they were hallucinating when they saw a spy plane go boom over Roswell.
Like all good conspiracy theories, there is just a tiny kernel of truth to that. The amount of chemicals that we are flushing into our fresh watersheds is indeed affecting the reproductive systems of aquatic organisms that live within them
My favorite theory is that all the people who start the big conspiracy theories a) don't believe in them themselves, b) are just in it to see just how crazy the things they say can get and still be believed, and c) are all in one Discord group or forum site.
@@charliekahn4205 If that were true, I wish to fuck that they would just cut it out. As was stated, "The world is on fire". Ain't nobody got time for all the nonsense.
Finally an understandable explanation of Breadtube. I had only heard the term in the context of video titles questioning it and had always thought "How can 3-4 video essayists who only release content a few times a year be generating this much thought and opposition?"
@@soupalex Reasonable-ist Bear rebrands as a kids' channel a la PragerU Kids, receives support from Adalaide's column and funding from FAKE before being 'Measured Response'-d by the Hbomb-Drivelator crossover and condemned to the mercy of the eyeballs
every bit of this is amazing but I especially love the transition bits where Alex Jones is animated with rotoscoping like he was in Waking Life, but also in a style that tells me somebody watched Joel Haver's animation tutorial. Great shit. This is high art.
The wildest thing is I think that’s what she referred to, during the end credits, as the neural network generated parts in the middle? Every time they were on I was scrutinising them, because they did look almost hand-rotoscoped, but there was a couple of glitches when Jones moved around more rapidly that made me think someone just…. put those tutorials into machine-learning haha
@@kaitlyn__L the program joel haver uses, EbSynth *is* AI. they sketch and color certsin key frames ovrr the source material, and the ai fills in the gaps, sometimes beautifully poorly
@@michaelwerkov3438 okay great, suspicion confirmed. What’s with your weird emphasis like I was somehow claiming the opposite though? You even confirmed my suspicion that you could feed the program your desired style. (Edit: is it because I chose to say “neural network generated” rather than the umbrella term “AI”?)
I crossed paths with some of these guys and - like - what's the market for socialism with conservative uncle characteristics If I wanted to get called a degenerate repeatedly I could just go kick the tradcath clown car. They're annoying enough without the added dose of "leftier than thou" pretentiousness.
I've been watching the tube of left since hbomber axed his wall and somehow i dodged this Caleb fellow entirely lol he's like a discount youngerish lobster king. Ima call him the crayfish prince
When I found Hbomberguy and watched his stuff, I then pivoted to Thought Slime who then showed my Caleb's true colors. So thanks to Mildred for helping me steer clear of that pothole
Absolutely hilarious how you got Shaun and Mildred to do readings for Jimmy Dore and Caleb Maupin respectively. Just brilliant, getting the people doing voices for the people they've criticized - chef's kiss!
I came here, late to the party, to learn about fellow lefties of my daughter's generation. I have a 10-year experience as lifter and lifting coach, one-upon-a-time consumer of YT lifting-related content, and I live in Sweden, so you can imagine how happy I was seeing you tearing a new one to the "buff Swedish beefcake" whom I remember calling Nigel Farage a "political genius." Once I'm done watching, I'm heading straight (pun intended) to Patreon.
1:55:55 Look behind him. Just imagine working cleaning detail while this blowhard goes off about " the workers" and she's getting absolutely not a red cent above min wage. Heart goes out to you, cleaning lady.
Thank you for the timestamp. I had seen a few other comments about that. Looking at the office glass and the office carpeting, it's clear that Caleb is renting a studio in a building and the maid is part of the cleaning service for that building. I would tip the woman if I saw her, but he was recording and she was behind him. Could he be the kind of guy to walk past a cleaning lady without acknowledging her? Maybe. Probably, but I don't know for sure.
The middle but about breadtube was very informative. Blew my mind. I first got on breadtube back when Natalie was making vids about The Golden One and pouring milk on herself in the bathtub. I probably watched every single video that ever dunked on Ben Shapiro, every single hour long in-depth suddenly Marxist video game analysis, and every single eyeball zone 👀. And then after Philosophy Tube made that awesome coming out video, I stopped watching UA-cam until recently because I moved and changed jobs and couldn’t watch hour long UA-cam videos on the clock ☠️ So I was really blown away to come back to “breadtube” and I see Peter Coffin hanging out with Daniel Maupin defending Louie CK. Wtf???
In all my time on "breadtube", trying to learn what it means to think critically, and all that good stuff (and there have been so many creators who have helped me navigate that journey), there's always been this gnawing idea in the back of my head that there's something missing in the way that that same critical eye is or isn't turned inward in these leftist spheres, that there's something so similar in the experience of validation and "wokeness" in breaking things down critically, and the experience of conspiracy believers on the right and how yet they're different. But I could never articulate that idea without feeling like I might lose my grounding on all these values that have come to be so important to me in my politics. I finally feel like I have the language to engage with those ideas. Thank you for this video Sophie! So grateful !
just had a week of feeling pretty fucking low abt organising, systems of oppression and the whole world on fire thing… this video was the perfect mix of fun, engaging, bloody good analysis and actual hope in that conclusion; it actually lifted my spirits and makes me keen to continue the work! so thank u for that :)
I wanna say how much I look up to you as a trans person. Unrelated to the video but you’re just so beautiful and it makes me so happy. You’re so badass and stuff too. I’m so glad to be a trans woman in a time where I have such amazing people to look up to like you.
An interesting thing for me, despite following a lot of "original breadtubers" for 5 years or more (Lindsey, Shaun, three arrows, Dan, Philosophy Tube) is seeing a this social media/twitch/interpersonal drama happening. I've made a decision for my own mental health not to use Reddit or Twitter, and rarely get engaged in the tumblresque communities (also I can't afford to support people on Patreon, so no updates there either), so stuff like Lindsey quitting or the slew of debater-bros where completely new to me! Also! Good video!
If you want to keep liking your favorite creators, I recommend staying off Twitter. Something about it seems to make everyone toxic. Even Sophie has this unhinged attack on Vaush that makes her sound like a completely different person. Vaush is a dick, but spreading lies about someone only makes yourself look bad.
Just coming back from Sophie's Patreon to say that this may be her best and most important video to date. So much like all her other work, it's one of the best videos on this site.
This is really important. I think Maupins FDR simping may be for the redlining, his KKK supream court Justice and internment camps as well as the new deal and socal security.
I’ve really enjoyed watching this channel grow and develop. This latest run Sophie has kicked her activism into a new gear and I LOVE it. It’s an inspiring commitment to a leftism that feels relevant and it’s fucking energizing. I’m so glad she’s here. This was excellent
Side tangent on the fire metaphor about putting out an oil fire-- if you have an actual oil fire in your house (and not a metaphorical one) you can put it out with baking soda or salt.
@@LitchAustin Yeah but not everyone has a fire extinguisher in their home and both salt and baking soda are things probably within arms reach in the kitchen, where an oil fire is most likely to happen.
Yes. You do need to absolutely smother it though. If you have a lid or sheet tray handy to drop over the fiery pot, that's best. Next best, pour the entire box of salt or baking soda, and if it's bad you might need both.
"Now we have Beaker from the Muppets wearing his dad's suit" *slow claps* You win. You have slain all enemies and vanquished all foes. The world is yours to rule as you please.
It's hilarious that I keep getting ads for Blockchain on this. We are living in a dark comedy and I'm glad Sophie is here to be a voice of hope and reason while not shying away from anything. May the algorithm bless this.
After watching this I kinda feel like I'm not alone anymore. Run into way too many folks happy to throw marginalized people under the bus, to push racist nonsense, and now declare literal imperialistic wars are the inverse of imperialism. And all the while I'm just like, wtf folks. This ain't how you build a movement, this is how you make yourself a small pond that gets nothing done.
The clips of Caleb Maupin talking were so hard to listen to. Totally insane content aside, his delivery style is so painful it is really hard for me to believe that people willingly listen to him.
If anyone wants an easy leftist project that is in progress, pick labor rights and organization. Something as small as informing others or giving positive sentiment will do wonders. That's where the real socialism happens.
@1:12:00 As a Jewish person from Europe I think it is incredibly important to say that there WAS a disproportionate amount of Jewish representation in those who were economically successful, especially in the banking sector (See Windolf, 2011, published in the Geman Journal of Business History). In short, Jewish people made up some 14-16% of the banking sector from 1914-1928, but made up less than 1% of the German population. This would be described as "disproportionate". The point that people who are anti-semitic make is that this disproportionate representation somehow justifies enacting harm on Jewish people. Obviously, anyone who is not a bigot understands that this is NOT sensible. The same way that black people commit a disproportionate level of crime in the USA is NOT a good justification for discriminating based on skin colour. The point is, there are likely socio-economic factors at play that lead to the disproportionate representation in certain social roles. Understanding that these socio-economic factors existed and that they lead to disproportionate outcomes is important to understand how it is the grain of truth that underlies Nazi ideology (i.e., that Jewish people are over-represented in certain roles) is then twisted into horrible misinterpretations (that Jewish people are somehow conspiring against the German state by taking powerful positions). Racists in the USA use the same misstep in logic. There is a grain of truth (black people are over-represented in crime statistics), but they then make horrible misinterpretations (they believe that black people are naturally more "crimey" or whatever). It is so important not to pretend that the "grain of truth" part isn't denied, because that only gives credence to racists/anti-semites. It makes those they speak to able to think "Wow, I didn't realise that [gain of truth] was true... I guess [misinterpretion] might also be true!" As someone who doesn't want people to be bigoted, we mustn't let that happen. By claiming that what Vaush said was "categorically untrue", you open the door to bigots trying to 'red pill' people, or whatever it is they call it these days.
@@macmcskullface1004 But the point made was that they did have disproportionate presence in the sector. I specifically said that this nugget of truth is what is used by anti-semites to then make further statements (e.g., they claim that this disproportionate presence also implies disproportionate control, which is then further morphed into 'Jews control the banks') My point is that it is important to acknowledge the underlying fact (there was a disproportionate presence of Jewish people in the private banking sector) without then agreeing with the framing that this is because they had control. The same way that black people in the USA do, factually, commit a disproportionate amount of crime. The point I am getting at is that this should not mean we accept the framing that this is because black people are more "crimey" by nature. The vital thing is to acknowledge that what we see are *outcomes* of socioeconomic factors (e.g., Jewish people were pushed into the banking sector by Christian countries in the pre-1900 era due to limits on lending placed on Christians and Muslims, or black people were pushed into poverty by the USA and poverty is linked to crime)
Thank you. This stuff is infuriating. I thought our whole thing on the left was supposed to be to reject common but unfairly framed questions. Yet so many of us are dead set on getting into the weeds of every detail of fascist conspiracy theories. This isn't flat earth, or some other factual disagreement. We should be refocusing the conversation on the morality. Wasting our time debating unimportant facts only bolsters fascist positions by implying there's some answer to the debated question that could justify genocide.
Thank you for pointing this out. Like, there are Holocaust Remembrance sites that talk about this as a historical fact, but lefties ignore it because it doesn't fit their narrative of the Jewish people being victims lied about by Nazis. That did happen in many other ways, but you're right. Denying this will make it easier for right wing people to out-argue you and not take you seriously, even less than before. There is a clear bias against streamers and debaters, especially Vaush.
@@macmcskullface1004 I see where you're coming from. Arguing with bigots about misrepresented statistics is not fun for me either. But what would you do if you know people (family for example) who will continually bring up these points to you because they know you don't want to argue back, thinking that they're winning and hold the better position? I'm curious, because I sure as hell know people who will lord that over me because they think they're right and I'm wrong.
@@macmcskullface1004 Yeah but it still sucks when it's your close family doing it because they think you're indoctrinated by the college you went to and you no other options for where to live. I wish it were that simple.
I've watched this video so many times - it's become one of my favourite comfort essays - and every time I do, I trip on the moment of Caleb Maupin thinking he's a leftist while throwing out an ableist slur like it's nothing. I don't know exactly what emotion I feel - anger, bafflement, disgust - but whatever it is, it's strong enough that I needed to comment. EDIT: Oh yeah, and the other thing I always think! "Stalin wasn't Russian!" And Hitler wasn't German and Napoleon wasn't French, what the actual fuck is your point, Caleb?
I came back to this video and I wasn't sure what the moment you were referring to in your dunk like "did he call something crazy or?" so I searched the transcript and hooooly shit Maupin really did just drop the r slur like it's nothing
This video is *so good*. Also want to add some context about the usury thing: Jews were often forced into the role of pawn shop owners (because few other jobs being available) during the middle ages because religious law dictated that usury was illegal between Jews but not to others and Christians thought themselves too pure for that. They could only lend small amounts of money for fixed interest rates (usually amounting to around $50 in the modern day for like 3% or something like that. The limit during much of 16th century Venice, for example was 3-5 ducats). Between this and the collapse of the Vatican bank (yup, the church used to have a bank), and the wealthy Jews who were often forced by ruling/feudal families to lend large sums on behalf of wars, the Rothschilds in particular but the Jews at large were characterized as a conniving, banking people in Europe. Antisemitism as a rule is the socialism of fools. It's the 1%'s way of moving the blame for their actions to a third party. As a professor of mine used to say, an annual pogrom keeps the Jews in check and the peasants from revolting (because you gave them the catharsis of destroying someone without it being you, the rich person). This means that Jews, on a population-level, are often given jobs that are the faces of power with no real teeth behind them: teachers but not admin, social workers, doctors, lawyers but not lawmakers. It also means that Jews, again on a population level, are afforded a level of success in most places they live that other minority groups are not (because if they weren't, the rich couldn't use us as a smokescreen. The story has to at least seem plausible.) Also, the whole tail wagging the dog thing re:Israel is so common on the left that it's driven a lot of Jews who would otherwise be up to their elbows in leftist thought/organizing to be driven out early. I know what people mean 70% of the time when they say "Zionists". Jews were a key part of the anarcho-syndicalist movement in the US and there are so many Jews who are pushed out of leftist spaces because we are so tired of the casual antisemitism carried out especially by the conspiracy left, but also by the community at large. Many of us still participate, but the community as a whole needs to deal with its antisemitism and look at it seriously because it's a serious issue *and* it weakens us to keep it uninterrogated.
Also, the no Marxism in Israel thing is so fucking funny because the ruling party of Israel for the majority of its early existence, MAPAI, was the literal alliance of socialist parties. It was disolved for a plethora of reasons, but Israel has. However, MAPAI was racist as hell, so a majority of the Mizrachi Jews in Israel are right-wing because the right embraced them after they were mistreated by MAPAI.
This comment was so talking about me as one of those lost as a leftist Orthodox Jew. I wrote a comment above before I saw this saying: As a religious leftist Jew, I am in a strange space w/ no home. My Orthodox community is full of Trumpists, so I stopped being involved. I want to be involved on the left, but I'm then forced to denounce Israel while simultaneously answering for all of their atrocities, as I ignore all the globalist dog whistles. I've dealt w/ antisemitism since I was a child & a brick came through my bedroom window w/ a note saying "DIE JEW!", as the phone rang telling me that they were coming to kill me tonight *"JEW"* It's just sad that almost 30 years later, the environment for Jews is hardly better, even on the "accepting left."
Wow, I always tried to understand what was the reason all of the antisemitic stereotypes existed and your comment makes so much sense! Now I can use this information as a starting point to learn more, thank you.
@@ultravioletiris6241 Jews were members of a marginalized group that were basically told to give members of the ruling class money or be *killed*. I'd call that being forced. Their class interests were bad and they were amoral, but these people weren't even usually bankers, just rich Jews who had a level of social mobility and were often used as the faces of systematic oppression despite having relatively little power compared to other members of the court. Ever heard of a Court Jew?
Great video. The thing that most annoys me about Alex Jones is that he would sometimes latch onto something that was true- chemicals being dumped in the water affecting the behaviour of frogs and other aquatic species- and because he's an epic troll people would just write it off as "lol gay frogs sure dude whatevs". When if he'd actually taken the subject- and his audience- seriously he could have done an expose of how private funding of the EPA results in the power of that organisation being watered down so much that when a red flag is raised they'll take the word of the corporations over the whistleblower. If anyone is interested, look up Tyrone Hayes, he's the guy who first raised the alarm about the water contamination.
If Jones had done any of that, though, the only rational response would be some kind of oversight or regulation, both things he claims to hate. He's in a lose-lose situation for any result other than grabbing attention for himself.
My thoughts when Caleb Maupin came up "Oh, that's the guy Thought Slime had a brief beef with, and other creators are making voices, I wonder if Thought Slime will do his voice. Does Sophie know Thought Slime?" Then immediately "Sophie has a whole series as a guest in Thought Slime's channel, how did I not remember that? She plugged this video in that series! I'm an idiot"
That arsonist bit reminded me to finally watch the philosophy tube videos i missed. That channel was what initially turned me from a horseshoe centrist into a leftist
Why do you call yourself a "leftist?" Why not just use a real word. If you're a socialist, say you're a socialist. If you're a communist, just say that you're a communist. "Leftist" is like this tepid word that doesn't really mean anything but people use it so they don't out themselves.
Agreed. Last time I caught up with their vids I'd had some questions.... didn't know they'd become THAT far gone since. 😳😰 . . . _[[Edited for the appropriate pronouns]]_
@@Cheyne_TetraMFG It is also worth noting that when Sophie went out of their way to make sure people used correct pronouns to refer to Coffin, Petey called her "a virtue signaling c**t." Which I'd say is a meaningful indicator of how much good faith PC invests in gender identity these days.
As someone who used to watch Peter's work back in the day god thats depressing. Great work Soph, I really like how a lot of my fav creators are dropping some of their best work recently. Like this video was absolute fire
Dear Sophie, I love you and your content and learn so much from you. I will admit that you make the hardest content for me to digest but that is part of the charm as in my dotage I had mostly given up on learning new things.
Such an important video right now, thank you, Sophie. I am an immigrant from post soviet space and I've found myself belonging in leftist spaces. But right now I find many leftists who have no idea what our countries are like, our history, our politicians, our societal issues, not only falling for blatant kremlin propaganda, but also gleefully cheering for an imperialist war lead by an authoritarian monster whose country is quickly becoming a fascist police state. It hurts so much and I now realise that basic compassion and empathy is not a precondition of the left, either. I feel like binaries never work.
Yup, im from poland and i share your frustrations. Ive deliberately tried to avoid most online hot takes about the war in ukraine because every time i do hear something theres like a 70% chance it will make my brain explode, for various reasons depending on the specifics. Its gotten to the point where im tempted to say i simply dont give a fuck what anyone from a non-eastern european country has to say
@@okayokayfineilldoit I'm from central Asia and yeah, I try not to go there but sometimes I spiral. But realising that some of them are in fact conspiracy believers and knowing that demonstrable facts most of the times don't help to change those beliefs makes it kinda easier. Just really revolting when someone espouses borderline hateful speech towards ukranians when you've actually lived in Ukraine and Russia as a russian speaking asian and know by experience that only one of those countries have rampant decades long systemic chauvinism and ethnonationalism problems, and it's not Ukraine...and the person saying that is a leftie 🤦♀️
@Huzaifa Ahmed I think in the propaganda infowars led by Russia, communist media outlets are the ones they target a lot, and since they're pretty effective like you said, they push this dehumanizing "all ukranians are nazis anyway" rhetoric onto the general left, too. I guess it's cool that Sophie is a communist that goes against the current, I hope there's more people like that. Still, I had too many communists dismissing my people's collective memory and oral and written history as western propaganda to trust them.
@@muslimmetalman it's not all that uncommon if you look in just the tech sector. Free Software (by the FSF's definition) is essentially digital communism.
Yeahhhh, I can see why Coffin & Maupin are up in arms about this video. Absolutely excellent work on explaining this baffling ideological beast. Thanks for your efforts.
02:09:00 imagine a world where someone pretends to be communist or socialist while unironically claiming they are fighting a holy war and wish to be pope oh wait. We are living in that world.
i'm blitzed the fuck out on three kinds of weed right now and i really really just cannot stress enough how hard that alex jones segment after the ad bodied me. i feel like i just picked cammy against o.sagat in a game of super turbo over a dispute on who has to pay for the denny's we're getting at 2 in the morning. i've never been to a denny's.
Okay, but with the whole "every UA-camr is CIA" I just got the idea of a movie where every major personality is a Jason Bourne style sleeper agent. And then someone butt dials the mass activation code.
Wow, a massive UA-cam essayist crossover movie featuring vague conspiracy nonsense, I bet nobody’s ever thought of that before! *flashbacks to my middle school Channel Awesome phase*
@@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks lmao, same. I'd not use ACTUAL YTers, aside from maybe a cameo. But actual actors playing archetypes. For one thing, I wouldn't want to actually give Jake Paul any money or clout.
I love that an Abi impression requires a huge, genuine smile 😊 . Gosh she's just been *glowing* the last year and change. Thanks for the vid, Sophie. We gotta keep leftism honest and compassionate, and I admire you for doing so 💕
Your longest Vid, aaaand the first I've ever watched one that is entirely yours (been following your work with Mildred). Conclusion: Would watch longer ones (if they are this good). No, really. Very well done. I have been hankering for someone to talk about more than just "conspiracy theories". In my world, hearing/reading about this stuff is about as animating as reading the latest definitions for an old school anti-virus software. You did a great job drawing the line between the "topics" of Conspiracy Theorists and the kind of thinking they do- how the conspiracy sausage is made, as it were. And your conclusion hit it out of the damn park. "The Truth has to matter- because the planet is on FIRE!" Love that.
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FAQs:
-you can find a full version of the outro track here: ua-cam.com/video/GCPV9W53EZI/v-deo.html
-most of my old videos are unlisted because I'm uncomfortable with people watching and commenting on videos of me looking so different. My Snyder video is unlisted because over time I became unhappy with the finished product of the essay - I think it really got away from talking about how movies communicate ideology and focused too much on Snyder as a person, which was not the intention.
-employment statistics aside, the CONTROL of banks in the Weimar Republic was never in the hands of anyone but the German state, and claim that "jews control the banks" is a nazi lie.
-no, I am not a liberal, no I do not think all conspiracy theories are completely made up from whole cloth. watch the video
-voices in the video were: (in order) John Duncan (ua-cam.com/users/JohntheDuncan) as George Galloway; Shaun (ua-cam.com/users/ShaunandnotJen) as Jimmy Dore; Sam (ua-cam.com/users/WereInHell) as the authors of Creating Conspiracy Beliefs; FD Signifier (ua-cam.com/users/FDSignifire) as Michael Barkun; Jess (ua-cam.com/users/ThatJess) as Hillary Clinton; Mildred (ua-cam.com/users/ThoughtSlime) as Caleb Maupin; Henry (ua-cam.com/users/BigJoel) as Peter Coffin; and Lua (ua-cam.com/channels/GZrqXTq3GW2wNRz9M44Baw.html) as Grayzone.
Bibliography (this doesn't include all studies, but most of the studies are referenced in the books):
Culture of Conspiracy, Michael Barkun
American Conspiracy Theories, JM Parent & JE Uscinski
Creating Conspiracy Beliefs: How Our Thoughts Are Shaped, Albarracin et al
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6282974/
journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0963721417718261
The Paranoid Style in American Politics, Hofstadter
Manufacturing Consent, Noam Chomsky
On the Origins of Totalitarianism, Hannah Arendt
Eichmann in Jerusalem, Hannah Arendt#
The Shock Doctrine, Naomi Klein
Debt, The First 5000 Years, David Graeber
Climate Leviathan, Joel Wainwright & Geoff Mann
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, Vladimir Lenin
Das Kapital, Karl Marx
ua-cam.com/video/KAFbpWVO-ow/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Hcr-nj4i-lw/v-deo.html
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60600487
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources
ua-cam.com/video/5wRDLf54Scs/v-deo.html
communemag.com/the-american-roots-of-a-right-wing-conspiracy/
www.history.com/news/why-the-public-stopped-believing-the-government-about-jfks-murder
fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-one-thing-in-politics-most-americans-believe-in-jfk-conspiracies/
observer.com/2016/02/hillarys-email-trail-of-troubling-anti-israel-conversations/
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/11/how-right-embraced-russian-disinformation-about-us-bioweapons-labs-ukraine/
ua-cam.com/video/41B5YonixBs/v-deo.html
Hey Sophie, I browsed your channel the other day after seeing this premiere upcoming hoping to share another one of your old Volume videos with my dad (he’s pretty heckin left and so’s everyone else in the family it’s great) but I noticed those playlists were all gone. I believe they were titled, from 1 to 3, Time, Validation, and Control respectively? Since they’re no longer on UA-cam, could I find these someplace else?
I wish I could buy Bokksu, but with the price of the dollar and the shipping to my country, it is impossibly expensive for me.... Hearing you talk about the jelly from Kanagawa almost made me cry, I miss my life in Kanagawa so much sometimes...
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Love the way you edit your videos is like a trippy fever dream
Conspirancy people throw around the word "they/them" more than me with my non-binary friends.
Underrated joke
I'm gonna need to steal that one, sorry 😬
this is our joke now
Lmao true
That's such a good and funny observation. And we all know they are usually referring to one person as well, thus proving the common usage of they in the singular.
Sorry but suggesting someone has so little charisma that their popularity has to be a CIA plot is such a funny dunk.
I long to run for public office just so I can use it on my opponents
That makes so much sense. Guys, I'm pretty sure a friend's boyfriend is CIA.
@@JacquesDeLeon harsh
As much of a dunk as CALEB MAUPIN thinking you have no charisma?? 😂
@@soulmechanics7946 This isn't a helpful way to think.
"Obviously, normal working class people are not into gay sex" Oh boy do we hang in different crowds of working class people
it is almost as though he pals around with queerphobic reactionaries 🤔
This guy has no idea how much gay sex and internalized homophobia construction workers have that's for sure
All working class people are straight apparently, there are 0 working class people who are members of lgbt apparently, the conservative left seem to think all working class people are the same, white and straight
To quote Pulp:
[You'll] dance, and drink, and screw
Because there's nothing else to do
Normal working class people know Christ?
I just got to say, as a Jewish person conspiracies are exhausting.
Like... I once had to explain to a friend that the blood libel isn't real, because her church taught her it was... This was 10 years ago (Yes in America)
It's genuinely depressing that people are more likely to think all Jews are rich than know how to pronounce Chanukah
Honestly, it kind of feels very similar to the "one joke" right-wingers have about gender-nonconforming people. In the case of the latter it's always helicopters with extra steps, and with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories it's always blood libel with extra steps.
@@zoushaomenohu not really, that comparison is a bit of a stretch. I kinda get what you mean, but I still think the two have more difference than similarities
sigh, I am sorry to hear that, though not surprised.
But arent you glad you have streamers debunking the hard questions like "are jews bloodsucking vampires actually?"
Instead of questions like "how do we support and protect our jewish brothers and sisters?"
As a fellow Jew, I couldn't agree more. I'm just sick of antisemitism being a part of every social circle I've had outside my own community. From the awful antisemitic attacks against my home as a child & almost every synagogue I've belonged to, kids in school bullying me as the only Jew in school in a very Xstian town, to my friends making "jokes", to all political circles, to every space online at the moment...it's just still everywhere in our world & as Jews we've been taught/expected to not bring attention to ourselves & never to respond.
Okay, as one of the people who was deeply influenced by Philosophy Tube's Steve Bannon video, I have to say, with a fireman costume like that, I'm now all-in.
My conspiracy is that I don't think JFK was even shot in the first place. His head just did that one day.
Fawk, new theory… a head sploding Supe got him a la The Boys style 😅
I'm going nuts at "Natalie Wynn's sudden rise" when like - she deleted her old, less viewed, videos because of dysphoria. If caleb had any intellectual honesty at all it would be abundantly clear that she had a pretty normal 'discovered by youtube and steadily grew' journey.
It's like if you started a conspiracy that some famous actor was an alien shapeshifter because they "exploded out of nowhere" but they have like a really long career as a TV and stage actor you just didn't care to look up.
Yeah, writing a whole-ass book about Breadtube, and not even knowing these basic histories is absurd. Like, what, he discovered BreadTube in 2021 cause he was bored during the shutdowns? It's super fucking weird.
I miss her old videos. The one about "The Golden One" was absolutely fantastic.
@@glenn_desert_witch nah he discovered breadtube bc a few ppl dunked on him and then he declared war on the whole idea of breadtube (or whatever the fuck he thinks breadtube is, which is he v obviously wrong about)
@@glenn_desert_witchIt’s not quite the same as having her presence on screen, but she does have transcripts up on her website of her old videos.
Just imagining queen Elizabeth throwing down the money for the Philosophy Tube video where Abby explains that every femme attracted person in the UK wants to make love to the queen, like, “this content gets the royal stamp of approval, we’re getting exactly what we paid for.” Makes me laugh so hard.
buh-reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
I mean my desire to fuck the Queen did increase by no small margin after watching that video.
Abigail made a whole video about having a title in their family past and how she had to deconstruct the pride she took from that and has rejected the whole royal loyalty thing. (I am not saying this well). She’s on a horse and is an older video.
@@aturtlethatisred yeah that's the video that OP is referencing, that's the video where the sexual analogy comes from
I struggled with that video, as I am neither femme attracted nor British, though the analogy entertained me greatly.
I believed all the parts of the video that fit my historical and emotional understanding, but I was deeply disappointed that this video made the mistake of not completely fitting my historical and emotional understanding. Clearly, the author of this video must be a CIA spy.
No no no, you are doing conspiracy theories wrong. She must be a Jewish CIA spy.
The sight of friggin Joe Rogan telling Alex Jones "dude. Slow down a minute. Use your words." Had me rolling on the floor
The HE says something like: “I’m talking to the intelligence agencies; I’m packing this with information; they’re gonna be analyzing this for years.”
@@lentlemenproductions770 I've always thought Alex Jones was a hilarious entertainer and comedian, tbh.
@@methyod He would have been amazing as a satirist, but alas, he faked it until he became it, if his troll excuse was real.
@@neoqwerty truly a modern Icarus
@@methyod he's very funny, he just happens to be a shit person if all the stuff from the lawsuits and his divorce that came out.
99.9% of conspiracy theories boil down to “It’s us” (I’m Jewish). Sophie, THANK YOU for emphasizing the INHERENT ANTISEMITISM in conspiratorial thinking.
It's sad but true. Even when you're taking say anti trans or anti gay conspiracy theories somehow it always comes back to The Jews.
I think this is a dangerous line of thinking really. What if the conspiracies were anti semitic? Or just didn't involve Jews at all?
I just think anti-semites see it as ripe ground to insert their prejudices. And I think if you say "99.9% of all conspiracy theories are anti semitic" - you're ceding the anti-semites all of that ground. Suddenly the UFO community is anti-semitic and so on.
Do you think conspiracy theorists in India or China rely on antisemitism as much as they do in the West?
Perhaps it’s because there are many secular Jews in positions of power
That's a lie.
Strangely, you'll say "itth jutht exaggeration"
By british imperial defintion, its not a lie. That the official definition of the british ruling class, a bunch of liars.
To everyone else its a lie
And the british empire is now part of 'the west', its the bs voice of the west ... listen to them defend you know who, and the big bullies too, and nazis in ukraine ... they are the voice of the empire, maybe not the controlling faction, or maybe they are ...
'The west' is, at least partly, a zorg (adjusted to aoid a dumb machine censorship*) empire
Its complicated
But this lie is part of their propaganda
e.g. a posh guy questions stab safety, and he's accused of we-all-know-what .... because of exactly the corporate mantra you repeated ... questionning imperial media and corporate politics is supposedly antisemitic ... same excuse used to get rid of Corbyn and old lefties from the now re-poshed and re-pretentioused re-blairitised labour (still mnot as zorg as the serving-the-con 'party' party, but zorg-tolerant and zorg-defending nonetheless) ...
* and the liars are now semi-universally calling dumb programmed machines 'AI', since a few months ago ... ffs
Abigail: * creates a character *
Sophie, a communist: ~~our character~~
whoever rotoscoped Alex Jones did an excellent job
i love that he keeps distorting into something vaguely resembling a humanoid walrus abomination. it really captures his essence
Seconded. Beautiful. My condolences to the braincells sofie and her team lost while listening to those rotoscoped clips
i was feeling a subtle nod to his (since denounced by richard linklater) appearance in waking life here
It reminds me of Joel Haver or Goat-On-Stick.
@@sillyd0g Why body shame tho?
just now realizing the "heartbreaking: jimmy dore thinks he just made a great point" face is just the dreamworks face
boutta start a conspiracy theory over this
Fun fact about that back cover of Maupin’s book: that’s the entirely default cover Amazon gives you when formatting your self-pubbed novels. The font, the layout, the basic black that they recommend replacing with a wraparound. It’s literally the bare minimum.
As an actual social scientist that studies conspiracy belief, I can say....you did your freaking homework! Seriously, it's weird to see what seems like the lit review from a research paper I'm currently writing basically be described back to me by someone awesome. I mean, seems almost a little *too much* like my lit review.....hmm..... 🧐😅
Keep being amazing!
@BIG PARTY maybe it would help to look at this more of a gateway than anything. Sometimes you just need a silly lady with a fun video that feels low stakes to get you thinking, and ultimately researching. I know we're at the point where shit is so dire that we need to have mobilized last decade, but humans are still human and we do still need some ground floor media to start the process of moving them over to anti capitalism.
"I'm not defending the confederacy, but-" - A sentence that should never leave your damn mouth.
You're right, it should be
"I am defending the confederacy, and-"
@@Shigan4059 is this what the kids call "based"?
@@donalddarko5807 Based in racism maybe
@@YadonTheCat lmao 🤣 😂 😆 "im not a wacist" what a silly boy you are
@@Shigan4059 I'm defending the Conderacy for showing just how evil slavery was to most Northerners who were completely clueless and had bought into Southern and colonial propaganda.
I have to say, getting Thought Slime to voice Maupin, and Big Joel to voice Coffin are both extremely inspired choices.
Thanks! :)
Long live Borger Kang
Especially since it could be an in joke about Thought Slime's jokes about Big Joel
Don't forget getting Shaun to voice Jimmy Dore.
That one is pretty inspired too.
@@Music34897As great of a choice as Mildred "Thought Slime" Thoughtslime is for such a role, I think Dan "Folding Ideas" Olson would have done an incredible read of Borger Kang
My take on Epstein is still that the hit men from Clinton, Trump, and multiple other parties all ran into each other that night in the prison, and had to draw straws to determine who actually got to do the deed.
As the hitman, or well one of them, this is 100000% how it went. I'm still pissed Paul won.
They were all coming to kill him all at once, but then when they arrived he had already killed himself.
Pretty sure this is the plot of Ocean's Fourteen.
and people say bipartisanship is dead.
Hillary sighed as she drew her katana...
Its funny that Caleb mentions Natalie Wynns quick rise to prominence when actually she deleted all of her old videos because of the transition
ya that was funny @1:34:35. just "when a youtube channel became popular, that is a skeleton in their closet!". and then...putting that right next to, uhh...something more serious
Oh damn, she did remove them. Bummer, some of those older videos were what got me onto watching her stuff.
@@SidShakal Same. Sad now.
@@CapriUni if it helps, the older videos are still out there elsewhere on the internet
@@SidShakal yeah, but where tho? time back machine has nothing, and yt only has clips from old videos available to watch
Also, I personally knew a trans girl who was being groomed by Maupin personally to adopt his worldview and eventually cut off me and my friends entirely. It got to the point where we had a sit down and talk about what we could do, but we couldn't think of anything. That was months ago, and I don't know if she's okay or what she's doing, but I will always despise Maupin for everything he's done and all the horrific shit he's pulled.
i know you made this comment a while ago now, but that is... deeply concerning, considering some of the things that have come out about caleb maupin as of late. i sincerely hope your friend is okay, and hope you manage to get in touch with her now that his little cult operation is effectively breaking apart
@@okayokayfineilldoit I hope so too, what's horrifically fucked is that Maupin invited her out to a remote cabin *as soon as* she turned 18, hence the conversation. I still haven't heard from her, but I hope she's okay.
@@RaeIsGaee yeah this is so concerning! You have to remember the onus is not on you to get your friend out, but if at all possible just be there for her in the fallout. Also if you know her parents, her romantic partner, or any other trusted people in her close circle it would be good to alert them, again if at all possible. She may get angry at you for that action but ultimately having more eyes on her is a better thing at this time.
Also remember to take care of yourself too, it can be very scary going through something like this and not being able to have control! Especially when to you, it all seems so clear. I wish you and your friend the best.
@Spider Creature No idea, haven't heard from her since she went to that thing. I vaguely remember asking a mutual friend about her a few months ago, and they said she's okay, so.
@Spider Creature Not much, since she blocked me and my friends, so we can't really reach out to her.
It sucks being a communist. I wish I had a catchier gimmick like conspiracy theories to keep ppls attention rather than "It's your bosses, dawg".
have you heard how ussr shoot laser at chinese
have you tried doing a rap? Maybe play one of those Poker Mons that are really popular.
Just gotta make that line catchy. Its harder than writing sci-fi fanfic and making that a conspiracy theory, but its doable lol
@@vitaliybakal7356 Jewish space lasers?
@@johannageisel5390 my actual ukrainian teachers who served during soviet-chinese conflict told us that soviets cut the tips of chinese guns with btr mounted laser and they run in panic, ending the conflict. This is quoted as fact by many older people.
At the beginning i was literally like "That sounds far fetched, but Sophie would never LIE to me!" And then you revealed that you lied. My heart is broken, i will never trust anyone ever again
It literally doesn't sound far fetched at all. Part of COINTELPRO was creating anarchist 'zines which could be used to say "both sides bad" for Vietnam and such. It was called The Workshop:
In internal documents, the FBI stressed that “the publisher and the writers should be strictly anarchist.” Why? Because the cops recognized that “the anarchist position could take any direction, such as an attack on Vietnam policies as well as an attack on the Soviets in Czechoslovakia.”
“The anarchists point of view is the most disruptive element in the New Left and should be capitalized on in the most confusing ways,” the feds added.
The FBI recognized that anarchist ideology could be used to de-politicize the leftist struggle, writing that the publication would “reach wider circulation if it were not so political as to be tied to dogma such as the line of MAO or CHE GUEVARA.”
The FBI also planned to use the anarchist newspaper to attack leftist Black nationalist and pan-Africanist leaders, singling out Stokely Carmichael (Kwame Ture)."
I see why transphobes, conspiracists, et al are mad at you: you've lapped them at life! You're insightful, compassionate, funny, sexy, and exuberant; so that your light must actually burn them. Great video, and that lace-bordered tee is super cute!
Lmao
Lmao
I think sexy is a bit subjective but okay
love how "Depictions of Alex Jones" is included in the content warnings
tbf seeing him animated joel haver style while going on absolutely unhinged rants activated my fight or flight everytime I saw it so maybe it was warranted
To add even more to the online left conspiracy, I somehow already know this video is good and it hasn't even premiered yet
You were paid to say this
Hope you're feeling better! I miss you!
@@SophiefromMars Nah, he paid to say this
Hey. Make videos again pls. ;_; I miss u.
this video keeps aging like a fine wine. Sophie you are a truly talented person and I'm so happy people like you exist in public spaces
For me the point at which the "Breadtube is a conspiracy" theory reached its height of stupidity was when Peter Coffin claimed Lindsay Ellis quit due to the Grayzone's supposedly stunning expose of her audiobook reader Abigail Thorn.
And I have to wonder about that too because Lindsay had a direct tie to the US government through PBS. But Peter never brought that up, maybe because that would make Bob Ross and Mr. Rogers also government agents, and they thought that would sound even dumber? I don’t know at this point.
God that's so dumb.
Coffin digging his own grave is so amazing.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 good one
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 It feels like they're too eager by half for attention & their desire to not only _always_ be a contrarian, but also always be right.
Fuck, Sophie's Alex Jones impression is better than it has any right to be.
I was shook hahahaha
It's too accurate, very unsettling
she makes it sound like he's in the room.
She's certainly got the pipes.
Spooky as heck
Love the “antif-ire department” framing, made this anti-fascist child of a firefighter smile
You did a fantastic job with this video, Sophie, 2.5 hours of my life (and many many more of yours) well-spent imo
That was also a nod to Abigail from Philosophy Tube!
it’s a philosophy tube bit which explains why it’s so good :)
@@mtlewis973 the Philosophy Tube bit has its own unique undertones which are a little hard to explain outside of the channel.
@@charliekahn4205 nah i mean it's the same bit pretty much exactly, which is fine i'm not having ago i'm sure she signed off on it
the difference is her video was about fascism and Sophie's is about conspiracy theories, with the link being the conception of fascist bigotry as inherently conspiratorial. so you get the analogy with the arsonist getting more focus in philosophy tubes video, and with Sophie you get "throwing water on the oil fire" to mean throwing facts on a problem of emotional truth
One of the best of the year
Loved your voice work on this, and really love your channel in general!
I also love your voice over on this, and found it very soothing to have such an upstanding person be part of this.
Your signal boosting is rapidly becoming one of the biggest new boons to this space. Hella based.
The FD bump is real
did you voice a section or two in here, or am i doing that yt (generally) person thing and being unable to differentiate people who talk differently than myself?
edit: didnt read the other comments. survey appears to say "yes"
Dang that was a good Abigail impression. I caught on because of the anti-fire thing obviously, but you really did manage to sound like her.
The real conspiracy is that Abigail was doing an impression of Sophie the whole time
there was also a moment that used inflection similar to innuendo studios, and (as always) comedy bits similar to hbomberguy. and perhaps a conclusion rant similar to Dan Olsen (including "book-ending" by repeating a phrase from earlier in the video)
@@bpansky I missed those then haha
and a bo burnham reference if im not wrong lol
They're all growing into a giant blob of extremely clever bread dough.
Very much appreciate you touching on the weird cognitive dissonance a lot of terminally online communists had regarding the invasion of Ukraine. One particularly miserable tumblr user kept swearing up and down that it was NATO fearmongering and even went as far to make a post saying "Happy Invasion Day" when it didn't happen, right before it did. Then he like, backpedalled super hard and claimed we as westerners shouldn't be commenting on world events we don't understand before then proceding to hyperfocus on every (extremely fucked up and braindead) decision the Ukrainian government made regarding future policy with like the implication that Russia was in the right to invade them?
I dunno! Just a really bad guy!
Wonderful video, btw. This filthy anarchist enjoyed it greatly!
@@Bisquick I'll save you the trouble of writing a part 2, you do not need to write a novel to convince me to hate NATO. I do it enough in my spare time as it is.
My point was more people making light of one country invading another, which I am always opposed to.
raised by a person who has believed deeply in leftist conspiracy theories since the bush era here. thank you so much for this video, sophie, it's helped me better understand where the kremlin apologia is coming from, and that the gray zone is even worse than i thought.
The Grayzone are honestly scary
What leftist conspiracy theories did you deeply believe in?
@@DjViceroy they said "raised by a person who believed"
What’s scary about the grayzone? The typical commie anti western sympathy?
Super excited to hear of Abigail’s promotion within the CIA! How does she find the time!
Apparently she is Michael Aquino’s daughter lmao
She gets up very early. It's the cadet training.
@@JacquesDeLeon I will never understand the idea that the time you get up somehow influences the amount of time you have
I gotta say, seeing Maupin talk at a conference with a whole spectacle of two people standing hand in hand with the soviet and american flags in front of a monolithic representation of Abraham Lincoln while the fuckin STAR SPANGLED BANNER blares in the background truly awestruck me, even for him. Like, this is bioshock infinite levels of on the nose.
I'm sorry, just the idea that the Queen is funding youtubers is hilarious.
Elizabeth pouring out a cup of Earl Grey as she sits down to a 3 hour Contrapoints video.
It's half true. Several royal charities are funded by the royal family, including this one. But this isn't weird. The richest people put lots of money into charities. And this is a source of money for UA-camrs.
If the queen was our ally that would be interesting,imagine having an immortal ally 🤣
Knowing how terminally online one has to be to even find themselves deep in leftist youtube content to begin with, I find the notion that the Queen or the CIA would see enough value in the platform to install plants in the first place to be hilarious.
@@hazzardalsohazzard2624 It's wild how the conspiracy left exploded over not knowing how charities are in the uk. Like, the RSPCA are not controlled by the royal family, britain is just a parody of itself and so our charities are adverts for our monarchy.
I definitely agree with that emotional aspect of conspiracy theories. I'm a trans guy, however I've got a pretty bad case of OCD, though I've been improving lately. Occasionally when things get difficult to deal with and the compulsions aren't enough, I begin having seasons of overactive paranoia, which leads to conspiracy theories. After I'd come out as trans I was dealing with a lot of negative backlash and (legitimate) gaslighting from family members and others around me. Most of the people doing this were women, who refused to allow me an identity outside of my biology. so because I couldn't emotionally deal with it I started obsessing over this idea that women aren't actually real, and it's some fake bioengineering created by a pseudo patriarchy. I never told anyone about this, because I was aware this idea was delusional and it lead me to think in a very misogynistic way about the women around me, and I knew that was harmful. and it was unhealthy because while the idea was based on pre-existing oppression of trans people and women, I'd altered it so that it only benefitted me, and no one else.
I know I’m just a stranger but I wanted to say both that I can relate albeit with details switched, and also that it’s very good that you’re self-aware about that!! Hanging onto my self-analysis that I know it’s just stuff I got myself worked up into a weird spiral about was sometimes the only bungee rope I had left. Demonisation and harassment from anti-trans folks definitely doesn’t help, I hope things are improving for you now ☺️
Hey friend I'm sorry you went through such a hard time coming out. I had a similar experience and believed in some incel conspiracys about women. I don't have ocd but I was a severe alcoholic and just addicted to the conspiracy theories and hatred and some were just really really goofy. It wasn't until I was more open about my truama in therapy and around my friends while opening up about these conspiracy theories that I was able to get out. I hope your around people who are kind and also getting some mental health help.
@@JC-jd1us
I’m glad you were able to find supportive people and a good therapist. I hope you continue to make positive progress in your life.
Hey, I know I don’t know you, and I’ve never been trans, but I have had really, really bad OCD, and I want you to know that I care about and support you. It’s a terrible, alienating illness, and I know that it’s really, really hard to make people around you understand it. I can’t even conceive how that horrible it must have been for that to intersect with people around you not acknowledging your gender. Glad to hear it’s starting to get better for you: there was a time in my life when it seemed like I couldn’t get better, but I eventually have. You’ve got this!
If you're ever feeling wildly unethical, you could 100% sell some ebooks if you just banged out a couple hundred pages of incoherent ranting about the bio-patriarchy's woman delusion.
I find it kinda funny that the list of deprecated sources page on Wikipedia is 50% UK newspapers and websites.
1:41:41 when Maupin says the absolute dumbest shit about Lenin, I was ready to joke about "yeah, Lenin totally would want to write about how Contrapoints making the mouth feel a meme distances the proletariat", but seeing Peter and their partner nod so enthusiastically genuinely broke my brain. Like... It's one thing to be a guy so sure you're living up to what Daddy Marx and Lenin wanted, but it's another thing for two other people to immediately cosign that
Funny thing is Situationists, which Peter Coffin used to be a huge fan of, already wrote the book Maupin wanted to write.... several decades ago.
lenin was the worlds first poster and its revisionism to say otherwise, the state and revolution was one massive shitposting thread about Kautsky prove me wrong
Always love a Mildred doin an impression of Maupin. It's like the secret sauce on a whooper from borger king.
@@xp7575 _pretentious eyebrow raise_
It really is pitch-perfect casting.
Wait, Borger King serves wooper?
As a pokemon trainer, I'm... Fine with this, actually.
There is no wompee secret sauce it’s just mayo
Borger kang
one of your best videos! Brava! and as an Eastern European leftist, I have to say I am relieved to see one of my favourite content creators not fall for the "anti imperialism" line popular among some western leftists
As a Linguist, hearing "Noam Chomsky" was like a slap back into reality.
Same like so much 😬😁
There's a fun anecdote about a bunch of linguistics students going to a Noam Chomsky meeting and walking away wondering what the hell consent manufacturing had to do with linguistics.
Lol, I'm into con languages, so while I'm no linguist, I've certainly heard of the guy and had to do a double take.
You mean "snap back to reality" there is a meme in here someplace.......
Oh! There goes gravity!
My favorite conspiracy theory is that the CIA occasionally feeds Alex Jones real information while continuously feeding him the most ridiculous bullshit, that way when he does occasionally get something right, the entire world equates what he's saying with "They're turning the fricken frogs gay" and discount it.
A good example of that is actually the “turning the frogs gay” quote itself. Look up videos the study that he’s misrepresenting and the interactions between the author, the fda, and a big pharmaceutical company.
Wouldn’t be the first time the Feds used a crank to cover up a genuine conspiracy theory. Richard Doty claimed that he was charged by the US Airforce with “leaking” falsified documents to UFO researchers to cover up the covert development of aircraft for the US Military and CIA. By convincing UFO researchers that what they were seeing weren’t spy plane tests but alien landings they hoped to push these people into mental breakdowns and discredit their observations to the public.
Essentially the US Military gaslit UFO cranks to discredit their observations because they were worried someone would eventually take a closer look and figure out what they were seeing weren’t alien space ships but military spy planes.
If the whole world believes UFO Researchers are just insane most people will just assume they were hallucinating when they saw a spy plane go boom over Roswell.
Like all good conspiracy theories, there is just a tiny kernel of truth to that. The amount of chemicals that we are flushing into our fresh watersheds is indeed affecting the reproductive systems of aquatic organisms that live within them
My favorite theory is that all the people who start the big conspiracy theories a) don't believe in them themselves, b) are just in it to see just how crazy the things they say can get and still be believed, and c) are all in one Discord group or forum site.
@@charliekahn4205 If that were true, I wish to fuck that they would just cut it out. As was stated, "The world is on fire". Ain't nobody got time for all the nonsense.
Finally an understandable explanation of Breadtube. I had only heard the term in the context of video titles questioning it and had always thought "How can 3-4 video essayists who only release content a few times a year be generating this much thought and opposition?"
NGL seeing the Firefighter in *any* medium makes me fucking ecstatic. Bring on the Leftist UA-cam Cinematic Universe
That's what got us into this mess! People were talking about a Breadtube Cinematic Universe when it was growing
@@soupalex Reasonable-ist Bear rebrands as a kids' channel a la PragerU Kids, receives support from Adalaide's column and funding from FAKE before being 'Measured Response'-d by the Hbomb-Drivelator crossover and condemned to the mercy of the eyeballs
@@soupalex I'm so sorry to have been the one to inform you of this affront to mankind
every bit of this is amazing but I especially love the transition bits where Alex Jones is animated with rotoscoping like he was in Waking Life, but also in a style that tells me somebody watched Joel Haver's animation tutorial. Great shit. This is high art.
The wildest thing is I think that’s what she referred to, during the end credits, as the neural network generated parts in the middle? Every time they were on I was scrutinising them, because they did look almost hand-rotoscoped, but there was a couple of glitches when Jones moved around more rapidly that made me think someone just…. put those tutorials into machine-learning haha
I think this video qualifies as insane-o style.
@@kaitlyn__L the program joel haver uses, EbSynth *is* AI. they sketch and color certsin key frames ovrr the source material, and the ai fills in the gaps, sometimes beautifully poorly
@@michaelwerkov3438 okay great, suspicion confirmed. What’s with your weird emphasis like I was somehow claiming the opposite though? You even confirmed my suspicion that you could feed the program your desired style. (Edit: is it because I chose to say “neural network generated” rather than the umbrella term “AI”?)
"The confederacy was an awful thing. Not just for African Americans, but for white people." Love that he had to clarify that immediately
I crossed paths with some of these guys and - like - what's the market for socialism with conservative uncle characteristics
If I wanted to get called a degenerate repeatedly I could just go kick the tradcath clown car. They're annoying enough without the added dose of "leftier than thou" pretentiousness.
Fiscal liberals I think?
not gonna lie, fire safety lessons Sophie got me wanting to act up O.O
💯
They got my hydrant about to spew 😩
I've been watching the tube of left since hbomber axed his wall and somehow i dodged this Caleb fellow entirely lol he's like a discount youngerish lobster king. Ima call him the crayfish prince
Wait i think i meant the Pete guy? Yea pete coffin dude giving bebe peterson vibes
You mean the crawdaddy?
Crayfish Prince! Yes!!!
When I found Hbomberguy and watched his stuff, I then pivoted to Thought Slime who then showed my Caleb's true colors. So thanks to Mildred for helping me steer clear of that pothole
"...all their leaders started ending up dead."
*weird background laugh from group who were within reach of the microphone.*
That was eery.
Absolutely hilarious how you got Shaun and Mildred to do readings for Jimmy Dore and Caleb Maupin respectively. Just brilliant, getting the people doing voices for the people they've criticized - chef's kiss!
I loved hearing Mildred read a quote about Thought Slime 🤣
Hey, garbage gotta fit together.
@@shis1988 mmm?
I came here, late to the party, to learn about fellow lefties of my daughter's generation. I have a 10-year experience as lifter and lifting coach, one-upon-a-time consumer of YT lifting-related content, and I live in Sweden, so you can imagine how happy I was seeing you tearing a new one to the "buff Swedish beefcake" whom I remember calling Nigel Farage a "political genius." Once I'm done watching, I'm heading straight (pun intended) to Patreon.
So refreshing to hear this, welcome!
Actually cackled at the "Beaker from the Muppets wearing his dad's suit" line
Same, like a howling cackle at how unexpected and how apt it was.
How dare she slander my sweet little boy Beaker in this way. He would never be a NazBol
I had to pause for a whole minute because I couldn't hear the video over my laughter.
1:55:55 Look behind him. Just imagine working cleaning detail while this blowhard goes off about " the workers" and she's getting absolutely not a red cent above min wage. Heart goes out to you, cleaning lady.
Thank you for the timestamp. I had seen a few other comments about that. Looking at the office glass and the office carpeting, it's clear that Caleb is renting a studio in a building and the maid is part of the cleaning service for that building. I would tip the woman if I saw her, but he was recording and she was behind him. Could he be the kind of guy to walk past a cleaning lady without acknowledging her? Maybe. Probably, but I don't know for sure.
The cleaning people are usually really nice, really hardworking, and generally know a lot more about what's happening than you'd think.
The middle but about breadtube was very informative. Blew my mind.
I first got on breadtube back when Natalie was making vids about The Golden One and pouring milk on herself in the bathtub. I probably watched every single video that ever dunked on Ben Shapiro, every single hour long in-depth suddenly Marxist video game analysis, and every single eyeball zone 👀. And then after Philosophy Tube made that awesome coming out video, I stopped watching UA-cam until recently because I moved and changed jobs and couldn’t watch hour long UA-cam videos on the clock ☠️
So I was really blown away to come back to “breadtube” and I see Peter Coffin hanging out with Daniel Maupin defending Louie CK. Wtf???
In all my time on "breadtube", trying to learn what it means to think critically, and all that good stuff (and there have been so many creators who have helped me navigate that journey), there's always been this gnawing idea in the back of my head that there's something missing in the way that that same critical eye is or isn't turned inward in these leftist spheres, that there's something so similar in the experience of validation and "wokeness" in breaking things down critically, and the experience of conspiracy believers on the right and how yet they're different. But I could never articulate that idea without feeling like I might lose my grounding on all these values that have come to be so important to me in my politics. I finally feel like I have the language to engage with those ideas. Thank you for this video Sophie! So grateful !
I just want to know what the low-income person cleaning the studio/house of Maupin in the background thinks about his cringe.
Commenting to commence embiggening.
I would love it if she was in the background of the psychedelic talk show segments
just had a week of feeling pretty fucking low abt organising, systems of oppression and the whole world on fire thing… this video was the perfect mix of fun, engaging, bloody good analysis and actual hope in that conclusion; it actually lifted my spirits and makes me keen to continue the work! so thank u for that :)
I wanna say how much I look up to you as a trans person. Unrelated to the video but you’re just so beautiful and it makes me so happy. You’re so badass and stuff too. I’m so glad to be a trans woman in a time where I have such amazing people to look up to like you.
Man, I look up to her as a woman woman. I'm a cis lady and seriously I wanna be just like her when I grow up!
@@targaghjj u might not want to refer to cis women as "women women," girl
@zea she's not, though? she's referring to women in general, trans and cis, as "women women." she's literally calling sophie a "woman woman"
@@autosadist You might want to keep your opinions to yourself, whatever.
:’) so wholesome
The Alex Jones animations look like how trying to comprehend his worldview feels.
This might be an on-purpose Waking Life reference?
I was wondering if it was one of Joel Haver's creations: ua-cam.com/video/SY3y6zNTiLs/v-deo.html
It looks a lot like A Scanner Darkly, those morph suits they wear.
Waking Life was the same director using the same technique, but Alex Jones was actually in it.
@@theanarchistcook Oh okay, that would indeed be a better reference.
An interesting thing for me, despite following a lot of "original breadtubers" for 5 years or more (Lindsey, Shaun, three arrows, Dan, Philosophy Tube) is seeing a this social media/twitch/interpersonal drama happening. I've made a decision for my own mental health not to use Reddit or Twitter, and rarely get engaged in the tumblresque communities (also I can't afford to support people on Patreon, so no updates there either), so stuff like Lindsey quitting or the slew of debater-bros where completely new to me! Also! Good video!
I usually avoid anything involving interpersonal drama, unless it also involves serious ethics violations.
Edit: however, Maupin is a great lolcow.
If you want to keep liking your favorite creators, I recommend staying off Twitter. Something about it seems to make everyone toxic. Even Sophie has this unhinged attack on Vaush that makes her sound like a completely different person. Vaush is a dick, but spreading lies about someone only makes yourself look bad.
whenever joe rogan is with brainforceman he seems to think that jones could snap at any minute and maul him like a rabid badger
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 No. No he is not.
Even a rabid badger is a cool-headed, friendly and rational being compared to Alex Jones.
i mean there is that story of alex jones casually shooting guns at his interns “as a joke”, amongst other things lmao
@@okayokayfineilldoit [insert shocked tails jpeg]
Just coming back from Sophie's Patreon to say that this may be her best and most important video to date. So much like all her other work, it's one of the best videos on this site.
Wow, thank you! That's so nice of you x
@@robertely686 I think most people already know about those.
This is really important. I think Maupins FDR simping may be for the redlining, his KKK supream court Justice and internment camps as well as the new deal and socal security.
Discrot! Been following since the Pagefire days, cool to see you
I love how Caleb Maupin still can't get over the name ThoughtSlime.
I’ve really enjoyed watching this channel grow and develop. This latest run Sophie has kicked her activism into a new gear and I LOVE it. It’s an inspiring commitment to a leftism that feels relevant and it’s fucking energizing. I’m so glad she’s here. This was excellent
Side tangent on the fire metaphor about putting out an oil fire-- if you have an actual oil fire in your house (and not a metaphorical one) you can put it out with baking soda or salt.
@@LitchAustin Yeah but not everyone has a fire extinguisher in their home and both salt and baking soda are things probably within arms reach in the kitchen, where an oil fire is most likely to happen.
Yes. You do need to absolutely smother it though. If you have a lid or sheet tray handy to drop over the fiery pot, that's best. Next best, pour the entire box of salt or baking soda, and if it's bad you might need both.
"Now we have Beaker from the Muppets wearing his dad's suit"
*slow claps*
You win. You have slain all enemies and vanquished all foes. The world is yours to rule as you please.
...But I really like Beaker and identify with him. Caleb Mopin', not so much.
It's hilarious that I keep getting ads for Blockchain on this.
We are living in a dark comedy and I'm glad Sophie is here to be a voice of hope and reason while not shying away from anything.
May the algorithm bless this.
After watching this I kinda feel like I'm not alone anymore. Run into way too many folks happy to throw marginalized people under the bus, to push racist nonsense, and now declare literal imperialistic wars are the inverse of imperialism. And all the while I'm just like, wtf folks. This ain't how you build a movement, this is how you make yourself a small pond that gets nothing done.
The conspiracy left isnt that bad, they are worryingly big, but definitely seperated from large breadtube figures
@@PropheticShadeZ True. And I'm pretty good at spotting the dividing line there. The trouble comes in social media and leftist themed Discord spaces.
The clips of Caleb Maupin talking were so hard to listen to. Totally insane content aside, his delivery style is so painful it is really hard for me to believe that people willingly listen to him.
If anyone wants an easy leftist project that is in progress, pick labor rights and organization. Something as small as informing others or giving positive sentiment will do wonders. That's where the real socialism happens.
Labor rights are nice but it isn’t socialism
If by that you mean informing them on how to use guns then 👍👍
If the cops are here that comment was a joke
@@solgato5186 you b didnt read OP's comment then
@@solgato5186 ive never seen that before!
@1:12:00 As a Jewish person from Europe I think it is incredibly important to say that there WAS a disproportionate amount of Jewish representation in those who were economically successful, especially in the banking sector (See Windolf, 2011, published in the Geman Journal of Business History). In short, Jewish people made up some 14-16% of the banking sector from 1914-1928, but made up less than 1% of the German population. This would be described as "disproportionate".
The point that people who are anti-semitic make is that this disproportionate representation somehow justifies enacting harm on Jewish people. Obviously, anyone who is not a bigot understands that this is NOT sensible. The same way that black people commit a disproportionate level of crime in the USA is NOT a good justification for discriminating based on skin colour. The point is, there are likely socio-economic factors at play that lead to the disproportionate representation in certain social roles. Understanding that these socio-economic factors existed and that they lead to disproportionate outcomes is important to understand how it is the grain of truth that underlies Nazi ideology (i.e., that Jewish people are over-represented in certain roles) is then twisted into horrible misinterpretations (that Jewish people are somehow conspiring against the German state by taking powerful positions). Racists in the USA use the same misstep in logic. There is a grain of truth (black people are over-represented in crime statistics), but they then make horrible misinterpretations (they believe that black people are naturally more "crimey" or whatever).
It is so important not to pretend that the "grain of truth" part isn't denied, because that only gives credence to racists/anti-semites. It makes those they speak to able to think "Wow, I didn't realise that [gain of truth] was true... I guess [misinterpretion] might also be true!" As someone who doesn't want people to be bigoted, we mustn't let that happen. By claiming that what Vaush said was "categorically untrue", you open the door to bigots trying to 'red pill' people, or whatever it is they call it these days.
@@macmcskullface1004 But the point made was that they did have disproportionate presence in the sector. I specifically said that this nugget of truth is what is used by anti-semites to then make further statements (e.g., they claim that this disproportionate presence also implies disproportionate control, which is then further morphed into 'Jews control the banks')
My point is that it is important to acknowledge the underlying fact (there was a disproportionate presence of Jewish people in the private banking sector) without then agreeing with the framing that this is because they had control.
The same way that black people in the USA do, factually, commit a disproportionate amount of crime. The point I am getting at is that this should not mean we accept the framing that this is because black people are more "crimey" by nature.
The vital thing is to acknowledge that what we see are *outcomes* of socioeconomic factors (e.g., Jewish people were pushed into the banking sector by Christian countries in the pre-1900 era due to limits on lending placed on Christians and Muslims, or black people were pushed into poverty by the USA and poverty is linked to crime)
Thank you.
This stuff is infuriating. I thought our whole thing on the left was supposed to be to reject common but unfairly framed questions. Yet so many of us are dead set on getting into the weeds of every detail of fascist conspiracy theories.
This isn't flat earth, or some other factual disagreement. We should be refocusing the conversation on the morality. Wasting our time debating unimportant facts only bolsters fascist positions by implying there's some answer to the debated question that could justify genocide.
Thank you for pointing this out. Like, there are Holocaust Remembrance sites that talk about this as a historical fact, but lefties ignore it because it doesn't fit their narrative of the Jewish people being victims lied about by Nazis. That did happen in many other ways, but you're right. Denying this will make it easier for right wing people to out-argue you and not take you seriously, even less than before. There is a clear bias against streamers and debaters, especially Vaush.
@@macmcskullface1004 I see where you're coming from. Arguing with bigots about misrepresented statistics is not fun for me either. But what would you do if you know people (family for example) who will continually bring up these points to you because they know you don't want to argue back, thinking that they're winning and hold the better position? I'm curious, because I sure as hell know people who will lord that over me because they think they're right and I'm wrong.
@@macmcskullface1004 Yeah but it still sucks when it's your close family doing it because they think you're indoctrinated by the college you went to and you no other options for where to live. I wish it were that simple.
I've watched this video so many times - it's become one of my favourite comfort essays - and every time I do, I trip on the moment of Caleb Maupin thinking he's a leftist while throwing out an ableist slur like it's nothing. I don't know exactly what emotion I feel - anger, bafflement, disgust - but whatever it is, it's strong enough that I needed to comment.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and the other thing I always think! "Stalin wasn't Russian!" And Hitler wasn't German and Napoleon wasn't French, what the actual fuck is your point, Caleb?
I came back to this video and I wasn't sure what the moment you were referring to in your dunk like "did he call something crazy or?" so I searched the transcript and hooooly shit Maupin really did just drop the r slur like it's nothing
the CIA paid me to say this rocks and Sophie is the best video essayist on this platform
A CIA shill wouldn't say they were a shill.... KGB PSYOP!!!!
Can you hook me up with your contact? Need that side hustle coin
@@consciouscode8150 or maybe it's actually NSA, pretending to be CIA because they don't know what's going on there.
This video is *so good*.
Also want to add some context about the usury thing: Jews were often forced into the role of pawn shop owners (because few other jobs being available) during the middle ages because religious law dictated that usury was illegal between Jews but not to others and Christians thought themselves too pure for that. They could only lend small amounts of money for fixed interest rates (usually amounting to around $50 in the modern day for like 3% or something like that. The limit during much of 16th century Venice, for example was 3-5 ducats). Between this and the collapse of the Vatican bank (yup, the church used to have a bank), and the wealthy Jews who were often forced by ruling/feudal families to lend large sums on behalf of wars, the Rothschilds in particular but the Jews at large were characterized as a conniving, banking people in Europe.
Antisemitism as a rule is the socialism of fools. It's the 1%'s way of moving the blame for their actions to a third party. As a professor of mine used to say, an annual pogrom keeps the Jews in check and the peasants from revolting (because you gave them the catharsis of destroying someone without it being you, the rich person). This means that Jews, on a population-level, are often given jobs that are the faces of power with no real teeth behind them: teachers but not admin, social workers, doctors, lawyers but not lawmakers. It also means that Jews, again on a population level, are afforded a level of success in most places they live that other minority groups are not (because if they weren't, the rich couldn't use us as a smokescreen. The story has to at least seem plausible.)
Also, the whole tail wagging the dog thing re:Israel is so common on the left that it's driven a lot of Jews who would otherwise be up to their elbows in leftist thought/organizing to be driven out early. I know what people mean 70% of the time when they say "Zionists". Jews were a key part of the anarcho-syndicalist movement in the US and there are so many Jews who are pushed out of leftist spaces because we are so tired of the casual antisemitism carried out especially by the conspiracy left, but also by the community at large. Many of us still participate, but the community as a whole needs to deal with its antisemitism and look at it seriously because it's a serious issue *and* it weakens us to keep it uninterrogated.
Also, the no Marxism in Israel thing is so fucking funny because the ruling party of Israel for the majority of its early existence, MAPAI, was the literal alliance of socialist parties. It was disolved for a plethora of reasons, but Israel has. However, MAPAI was racist as hell, so a majority of the Mizrachi Jews in Israel are right-wing because the right embraced them after they were mistreated by MAPAI.
This comment really spoke to me. Thank you ❤️
This comment was so talking about me as one of those lost as a leftist Orthodox Jew. I wrote a comment above before I saw this saying:
As a religious leftist Jew, I am in a strange space w/ no home. My Orthodox community is full of Trumpists, so I stopped being involved. I want to be involved on the left, but I'm then forced to denounce Israel while simultaneously answering for all of their atrocities, as I ignore all the globalist dog whistles. I've dealt w/ antisemitism since I was a child & a brick came through my bedroom window w/ a note saying "DIE JEW!", as the phone rang telling me that they were coming to kill me tonight *"JEW"* It's just sad that almost 30 years later, the environment for Jews is hardly better, even on the "accepting left."
Wow, I always tried to understand what was the reason all of the antisemitic stereotypes existed and your comment makes so much sense! Now I can use this information as a starting point to learn more, thank you.
@@ultravioletiris6241 Jews were members of a marginalized group that were basically told to give members of the ruling class money or be *killed*. I'd call that being forced. Their class interests were bad and they were amoral, but these people weren't even usually bankers, just rich Jews who had a level of social mobility and were often used as the faces of systematic oppression despite having relatively little power compared to other members of the court. Ever heard of a Court Jew?
Great video. The thing that most annoys me about Alex Jones is that he would sometimes latch onto something that was true- chemicals being dumped in the water affecting the behaviour of frogs and other aquatic species- and because he's an epic troll people would just write it off as "lol gay frogs sure dude whatevs". When if he'd actually taken the subject- and his audience- seriously he could have done an expose of how private funding of the EPA results in the power of that organisation being watered down so much that when a red flag is raised they'll take the word of the corporations over the whistleblower. If anyone is interested, look up Tyrone Hayes, he's the guy who first raised the alarm about the water contamination.
mfw you tell people that they actually ARE putting chemicals in the water that make the frogs gay and they dont believe you :(
If Jones had done any of that, though, the only rational response would be some kind of oversight or regulation, both things he claims to hate. He's in a lose-lose situation for any result other than grabbing attention for himself.
My thoughts when Caleb Maupin came up "Oh, that's the guy Thought Slime had a brief beef with, and other creators are making voices, I wonder if Thought Slime will do his voice. Does Sophie know Thought Slime?" Then immediately "Sophie has a whole series as a guest in Thought Slime's channel, how did I not remember that? She plugged this video in that series! I'm an idiot"
That arsonist bit reminded me to finally watch the philosophy tube videos i missed. That channel was what initially turned me from a horseshoe centrist into a leftist
The video on Steve Bannon?
It’s a great reoccurring allegory in that channel’s vids. :)
Why do you call yourself a "leftist?" Why not just use a real word. If you're a socialist, say you're a socialist. If you're a communist, just say that you're a communist. "Leftist" is like this tepid word that doesn't really mean anything but people use it so they don't out themselves.
@@Tetragrammaton22 get over yourself, thanks. ~an Anarchist
@@Tetragrammaton22 it's an umbrella term for everyone left of center, but for individuals it means slightly left of socdem but not statist socialist.
For how long this was, it’s was shockingly easy to digest and understand with a clear focus. Nice 👍🏽
I’m here for the cleaning lady cameo.
Lol I was waiting for her too look in on him like the fuck is he talking about??
Hadn’t realized just how low Peter Coffin has fallen until this video. It’s actually insidious what they are doing.
it's so sad but also gross
Agreed. Last time I caught up with their vids I'd had some questions.... didn't know they'd become THAT far gone since. 😳😰
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@@TreeHairedGingerAle they/them* just fyi
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@@Cheyne_TetraMFG It is also worth noting that when Sophie went out of their way to make sure people used correct pronouns to refer to Coffin, Petey called her "a virtue signaling c**t." Which I'd say is a meaningful indicator of how much good faith PC invests in gender identity these days.
As someone who used to watch Peter's work back in the day god thats depressing.
Great work Soph, I really like how a lot of my fav creators are dropping some of their best work recently. Like this video was absolute fire
Dear Sophie, I love you and your content and learn so much from you. I will admit that you make the hardest content for me to digest but that is part of the charm as in my dotage I had mostly given up on learning new things.
Such an important video right now, thank you, Sophie. I am an immigrant from post soviet space and I've found myself belonging in leftist spaces. But right now I find many leftists who have no idea what our countries are like, our history, our politicians, our societal issues, not only falling for blatant kremlin propaganda, but also gleefully cheering for an imperialist war lead by an authoritarian monster whose country is quickly becoming a fascist police state. It hurts so much and I now realise that basic compassion and empathy is not a precondition of the left, either. I feel like binaries never work.
Yup, im from poland and i share your frustrations. Ive deliberately tried to avoid most online hot takes about the war in ukraine because every time i do hear something theres like a 70% chance it will make my brain explode, for various reasons depending on the specifics. Its gotten to the point where im tempted to say i simply dont give a fuck what anyone from a non-eastern european country has to say
@@okayokayfineilldoit I'm from central Asia and yeah, I try not to go there but sometimes I spiral. But realising that some of them are in fact conspiracy believers and knowing that demonstrable facts most of the times don't help to change those beliefs makes it kinda easier. Just really revolting when someone espouses borderline hateful speech towards ukranians when you've actually lived in Ukraine and Russia as a russian speaking asian and know by experience that only one of those countries have rampant decades long systemic chauvinism and ethnonationalism problems, and it's not Ukraine...and the person saying that is a leftie 🤦♀️
Communism is only the most extreme form of left wing stuff out there to. Most effective but it isn’t the most common
@Huzaifa Ahmed I think in the propaganda infowars led by Russia, communist media outlets are the ones they target a lot, and since they're pretty effective like you said, they push this dehumanizing "all ukranians are nazis anyway" rhetoric onto the general left, too. I guess it's cool that Sophie is a communist that goes against the current, I hope there's more people like that. Still, I had too many communists dismissing my people's collective memory and oral and written history as western propaganda to trust them.
@@muslimmetalman it's not all that uncommon if you look in just the tech sector. Free Software (by the FSF's definition) is essentially digital communism.
Hearing JTD meow in character as George Galloway induced an out of body experience in me
Sophie and Mildred's impressions of Jones and Maupin were absolute top tier, holy shit
Yeahhhh, I can see why Coffin & Maupin are up in arms about this video.
Absolutely excellent work on explaining this baffling ideological beast. Thanks for your efforts.
Light is a powerful disinfectant.
Maupin at the Nazbol conference is just proof that Maupin is far right with a leftist aesthetic.
In the clip of Maupin rambling next to Dugan all I could think was "why are you YELLING to this person sitting right next to you"
02:09:00 imagine a world where someone pretends to be communist or socialist while unironically claiming they are fighting a holy war and wish to be pope
oh wait. We are living in that world.
If I’m CIA funded I’m terrible at it bc I needed help buying lunch last week and barely hit 1K on vids
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unionize with your comrades within the cia, galaxy brain move problem solved
i'm blitzed the fuck out on three kinds of weed right now and i really really just cannot stress enough how hard that alex jones segment after the ad bodied me. i feel like i just picked cammy against o.sagat in a game of super turbo over a dispute on who has to pay for the denny's we're getting at 2 in the morning. i've never been to a denny's.
Okay, but with the whole "every UA-camr is CIA" I just got the idea of a movie where every major personality is a Jason Bourne style sleeper agent.
And then someone butt dials the mass activation code.
Wow, a massive UA-cam essayist crossover movie featuring vague conspiracy nonsense, I bet nobody’s ever thought of that before! *flashbacks to my middle school Channel Awesome phase*
@@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks lmao, same.
I'd not use ACTUAL YTers, aside from maybe a cameo. But actual actors playing archetypes.
For one thing, I wouldn't want to actually give Jake Paul any money or clout.
@@hartthorn but I think a large part of Twitch would be happy to help with the project.
@@charliekahn4205 oh, I'm sure. But only to help cover up that Twitch is just a giant DGSE op.
I love that an Abi impression requires a huge, genuine smile 😊 . Gosh she's just been *glowing* the last year and change.
Thanks for the vid, Sophie. We gotta keep leftism honest and compassionate, and I admire you for doing so 💕
Your longest Vid, aaaand the first I've ever watched one that is entirely yours (been following your work with Mildred).
Conclusion: Would watch longer ones (if they are this good).
No, really. Very well done. I have been hankering for someone to talk about more than just "conspiracy theories". In my world, hearing/reading about this stuff is about as animating as reading the latest definitions for an old school anti-virus software. You did a great job drawing the line between the "topics" of Conspiracy Theorists and the kind of thinking they do- how the conspiracy sausage is made, as it were.
And your conclusion hit it out of the damn park. "The Truth has to matter- because the planet is on FIRE!" Love that.
That "walk in the park" pun had intense local news station energy
When I hear Sophie talk I feel like we can actually change things and make a better world
lol
There is something deeply evocative about Alex Jones devolving into a mumbling, rotoscoped puddle while Mr jogan Rogan looks on in mild concern