The Matrix Sequels Are Good, Actually | Sophie From Mars (ft. Sarah Zedig)
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"You are a grown adult capable of forming your own opinions on movies without youtubers constructing them for you right?"
Now having watched the whole video I feel like I've never had a thought in my life, actually
bc hkit’s it’s okay so i
I feel normal but I sure do have a sudden hankering for: “Do transgender communism”
Just dawned on me that escaping the Matrix is quite literally escaping a literal binary.
AAAH MIND ACTUALLY BLOWN! AWESOME!
How did I never notice that?!
Note that the in Matrix Resurrection Neo is forced into creating a program called Binary. . .as Sophie puts it quite often, the Wachowski's are not subtle. :^D
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Wait, there are people who don't like Trinity?
I'm shocked too
i thought i disliked her when i was small, but now i just have a big crush on her.
That whole segment was soo bizzare to me, wtf there are people that doesn't think Trinity is pretty and cool?
Yeah, even when I was an insufferable tween with socialized bigotry I thought that Trinity kicked ass, and looked real pretty.
Granted, I wouldn’t call that a very feminist reading of the character, but it wasn’t actively hateful.
@@constantreader1422 I WAS GOING TO COMMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOO LOL
"You can't hide from us Kusanagi! Your thermo-optic camouflage doesn't disguise you from rigorous media analysis!"
Quote made my day.
When the wachowski sisters came out as trans I became aware of the allegories in The matrix movies on the surface level.
This is the first time I'm hearing the take of someone who actually lives the trans life go in depth about these movies, and they truly go deeper than I ever could have imagined.
I had no idea about the teenage suicide attempt, and the way you overlaid those words on the scene where neo is almost killed by the train but survives when he affirms his identity, you brought tears to my eyes.
_"When the wachowski sisters came out as trans I became aware of the allegories in The matrix movies on the surface level."_
Yep, I thought, sure, maybe on a very superficial level.
Shows what I know, very little, maybe on a very superficial level.
Also, having just that superficial level of understanding, the final dialogue of the 4th movie make me break up in tears and I'm super happy they made it - the series I mean -, even though it completely flew over my head until the final scene, as all the movies did.
I'm totally blind to anything metaphorical or symbolic in movies unless a character is literally named after some ancient thing I vaguely remember like Solomon's Key in Locke & Key. I forgot the character, it's in the only season worth watching, the first one. The kid that killed the father is called Simon solomon or some obvious shit like that, so in the first episode I googled Solomon's Key and figured out that there were gonna be spirits summoned or some shit like that and I was right for once in my life XD
So this video is pretty much a revelation about all the things I still missed in the Matrix movies after having watched them a gazillion times and having seen them in very different way at different times in my life.
Anyway, as a cis hetero white guy I am very happy with this video explaining in such a fun way what I didn't see and couldn't, even though I was told it was there. I get the prison for you mind, but I have no idea what it is to live life being a trans person and now I know a tiny bit more. And I also loved the movies, obviously, so I feel totally vindicated in loving them and thinking they're actually good. And they just got a lot better.
I never got the fascism thing either. I obviously noticed it when Neo got picked up the first movie, but I thought Smith just got weaker over time, completely forgetting how fascism works and what I am complaining about and what I criticize when arguing with fascists. Maybe I just block the memory of it to enjoy the movie more and end up hating Smith more because he gets more dumb and annoying over time. Realizing now it's inevitable with so much irony in such a stupid ideology and I see it happening with people every fucking day, I should really watch the movies again.
They really were way ahead of their time.
For the "movie mistakes" like light reflection on smith glasses and all, there an intresting analysis by french youtuber and movie reviewer "Durendal" who notice that all of those "mistakes"... always happen when the scene talk about control... like... all of them... there no movie mistake like that when Neo talk about his favourite restaurant or when Link look at his Lucky Charm. So yeah, you're not the only one to see this as a purposely choice, and seeing how recurent in specific scene it happen, it's probably true.
Holy Hell. O.O That's so awesome.
Yesssss. Thanks for sharing this!
To further support this point, there are other videos that talk about the hidden themes of The Matrix movies including that they are an allegory about "The Cave" story where people were imprisoned in a cave where they thought their whole reality was watching shadows that were living on the walls in the cave but it was really just actors holding up objects so that the sun would cast shadows into the cave to look like things like creatures moving etc, and eventually one of the prisoners escapes and sees the play being acted out and then sees reality for the first time, then has trouble with seeing because the prisoner has been in a dark cave his or her whole life and is now just seeing the light from the sun for the first time (I hope I explained that right). It could be argued then that the Agent Smith sunglasses thing was more symbolism about The Cave from the Wachowskis to further communicate in a somewhat subtle way that we are not free, as Agent Smith said to Neo, and that we need to escape from the prison of our minds and see the "movie" being played behind us for what it truly is.
@@michaelreborn9656 Oo! That's brilliant!
@@Cyromantik o
Honestly the massive lesbian vibes from Neo and Trinity are even stronger and more plainly intentional if you’ve seen Bound. The fact that the first film the Wachowskis made was about a wlw couple running away together tells you everything you need to know
I work in pharmacy and the estrogen pills I put into some people's dosage boxes are still red. This is the least important point in the video but it amuses me every time I think about it.
Yo my current batch is Elleste Solo, they're orange but red enough
@Kodie Kulp Haha not dumb at all! Some are other colours now but red is still the most common one that I see.
@@TheHopperUK Yea mine are red n.n Estradiol :D
Boy this was a unique way to learn there's going to be a 4th Matrix
Also as someone who's never seen ANY of the Matrices, I'm excited to watch this, because I am quite fond of the content you and Sarah Zedig put out, even if it's about things I'm not familiar with!
Edit: "The Matrix is kind of a live-action anime" Hi yes I have never heard a sales-pitch I've latched onto more I will ABSOLUTELY watch the Matrices!
@@PixelHead777 there's also a, not sure what to call it, companion piece to the trilogy called The Animatrix, which is worth watching.
@@weatheranddarkness Back during the early 00's, tie-in media was a neat thing. There were the movies, there was the Animatrix (short-film animated pieces), there was the video game where you played Ghost, and then there was the MMO, and everything fed into everything. Media professors at the time called it "transmedia" and thought it would revolutionize stuff.
Turns out, it's also basically impossible to do. The only franchise that's ever done it successfully, to my knowledge, is Pokemon.
@@weatheranddarkness Animatrix should have been mandatory it helps fill in the massive gaps in the matrix storyline.
@@Duiker36 I believe there were also comics.
The Oracle never tells Neo he’s not the one. She lets him answer then confirms what he decides.
Exactly.
Yup. She literally told him that no one can tell him he's the One, he has to know it for himself.
The Oracle even quite literally says, "You've got the gift, but it looks like you're waiting for something."
Neo highlights the back half of that sentence, entirely ignoring the part where she just tells him, "You're literally The One, but you gotta find that out for yourself."
Neo is Shrodinger's Chosen one - if he saves Morpheus and lives, he IS the one - if he dies trying, he isn't.
Until you open the box (take the red pill) there's no way to know - and once opened, there's no going back.
Its fun because it's true at the time, he's not the one until he believes he is the one
It actually puts in perspective everytime Smith says "MiStER AnDeRsOn". It is the ultimate offense, by simultaneously misgender and using a dead name.
And frequently with an emphasis on the "Mister" part too...
Also, it is quite a masculine name. I mean, literally, considering its suffix and etymological roots. It could just mean a play with some sort of messianic title, like "the son of man", but in that case, it doesn't make sense for Neo to renounce it. It is possibly a nod to a "manly man dudebro" connotation. Meanwhile, Neo is just "nah, I'm something entirely new". (I'm probably overanalyzing it, but it's my headcanon now).
I just discovered this channel and I'm already in love. I've backed these sequels since I was a teenager and I feel so vindicated by this amazing video 😁🥰
So, "Mister Anderson" seems to break down the Mister prefix. Then "Anders"which has a Greek root as "manly", and then -son, which shows he inherited that lineage
OH MY GOD the Wachowski sisters are INCREDIBLE
Seeing this video felt like learning to read the damn code
IM GOING TO BINGE THEM ALL TOMORROW
I also love how it emphasizes the way in which bureaucracy plays an explicit part both in literally making people act according to the law, but also on a more ideological level. The 'Mister Anderson' can easily be read just as 'corporate talk' or Smith just being a carreerman (which is a large part of his personality in the first movie), but also subtly shows how these things that we interpret as being silly corporate or police things actually enforce a gendered patriarchical world.
In the bit about the right co-opting anti-fascist media reminds me of the situation of They Live. A distinctly anti-capitalist, anti-fascist, anti-Regan film that the fascists love to read as anti-Semitic. Director John Carpenter hates this take and sees it as a distinct misunderstanding of the film.
So if it's about Class why are the Aliens a different Race?
@@universome511 well because it's kind of a mixed metaphor. Metaphors in film especially fantasy amd scifi are always a mixed bag. It's the trouble with mutants in the XMen or predators in zootropalis. In the universe of xmen yeah it's kinda justifiable that humans might be scared of mutants when they can shoot fireworks out their hands, change memories with telepathy, shoot concussive blasts out their eyes, litterally control all metal ect. And in zootropolis its justified why prey would be kinda wairy around predators when the litteral only thing they eat is you, or a substitute for you.
In these stories that are clearly about racial/queer (in the case of xmen) oppression they need to justify why that bias exists. In our world however the reasons for these biases aren't as justified or understandable. Our worlds oppression is built off traditionalism and wanting to go back to a better time that never was. It's not that queer or black people really pose a threat in the same way that the Xmen or predators do for their society. Its that reactionaries and people opposed to change are terrified and choose to spread bigotry and try to keep things as is because adapting to changing times is scary.
I think the point was that the main characters and the people at the top, the rich, the bourgeoisie are on such different levels that they might as well be a different species. That the existance of the working class the rich 1% are so different that to the working class, to Nada, a drifter whose name litterally means nothing, to someone who is a no-one who live paycheck to paycheck or don't know where their next meal comes from, the life of the rich is completely and utterly alien. the police and the media exist for the benefit of the people Nada lives under the boot heel of. A majority of the cops within the film are the aliens and their job is to protect the private property (like the bank that nada attacks) and attack the poor communities. Meanwhile The media is selling a luxurious lifestyle filled with hidden propaganda to keep you unaware and consuming, not thinking about what the media consumed means or the implications of it but simply consuming and purchasing what is marketed to you.
Most people I know didn't get why Smith exploded at the end. Sure they had ideas for the metaphors but not the mechanics.
Smith avoided deleation because he cut himself off from the source, finding his power in isolation. When Neo goes to fight Smith he does so by connecting directly to the source. When Smith takes him over he is reconnected to the source through Neo and the Source is able to delete him.
I think it still very much adds to the metaphors.
What about the humans still plugged in? Are they not connected to the source?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just heard this many many times and I don't get it
The explanation I was given was that the robots basically implanted Neo with a virus so if/when Smith won he would just blow up anyways.
@@itgaam I'm not exactly sure about that point but Neo was made differently then the others. Smith Literally says he became unplugged because of Neo that that allowed him to disobey.
All I know is the cinematography and cuts really imply this. You get reaction shots from Neo in the real world and the source face thing.
You see the Neo smith standing there, then a cut to Neo and the Source sends a shock through the wires, then a cut to the Neo Smith twitching. Then you see the wires plugged into Neo Light up bright white before Neo then lights up bright white, implying that it came from the source. The white light spreads from the cables connected to Neo, into him and then the light starts to appear form behind the Smith Neo's glasses.
I think if you slow down the action here it's telling a clear story.
If this isn't clear in the narrative, that's a problem with storytelling. What allegory is at work here?
Wasn't this the clinch pin for the "Agent Smith is the One" theories?
That theory in general has a lot of beautiful symbolism to it that I already went over in a different comment, but to be brief; it assumes the metaphor of removing that side of oneself that demands to adhere to the norms of a toxic society, and taken too far demands it of everyone else as well.
I too got the "Agent Smith is a fascist" meaning, but I got two others reasons for his final defeat, not more or less valid, that's why the Washoski keept it vague, so we can see all kind of meaning in it :
- Like your said, despite being a Smith, people still have their "cookies", their personnality, their identity. Neo understand that when Smith talk like the oracle, so he let himself becoming part of this fascist system... and his cookies, those of a hacker and rebelious anarchist, destroy him from the inside. Almost kind of meta, because the movie have an anti-capitalist message will their distribution participate to the capitalist society with product placement and all... but like Neo, they go to this system to destroy it from the inside, will the "agents" don't understad what is happening... like the agent from this powerade commercial.
- Fascism exist thanks to one single tactic... "antagonisation". They take a "other" and use it to make it the threat to liberty of our race or something, so we fight him, and destroy our liberty and individuality to vanquish this "other". But once the "other" is dead... fascism still need someone to fight for justifying his existence... so he fight against itself, against others who was behind him, and them, destroy itself. That's why Fascism is a looser ideology and why Smith loose, because he vanquish his "other"... but now he had no reasons to exist.
Salut mj
having watched both the sequels and the video, I can confirm that the Matrix sequels are in fact good, actually
everyone pay attention. This person has seen the light. You too, will soon be like them
Was hoping this was parody. After looking at these two comments I know im definitely not watching this video.
every time I rewatch this I am still delighted when I realize that whenever sarah quotes an agent smith line she does it naturally in the cadence of hugo weaving. legends supporting legends.
To expand on the "Neo knows it's a movie" concept, I think it explains the biggest surface plot hole of the sequels, which is Neo having superpowers in the real world and not just in the Matrix. But here's the thing - that superpower is only the power to be heard. He can't use it to Deus Ex Machina everything, he can only use it to get to the position to talk to the machine baby head directly. Because a movie star can't do anything much in the real world either, but they have a rare ability to disseminate an idea.
I've always loved the sequels because they end in a uneasy negotiated settlement with the powers-that-be, which is far more meaningful than the standard action movie defeat-the-single-point-of-failure ending of the first Matrix.
That's pretty spot on. Good theory
It’s not that crazy. His real world superpower is just WiFi. He can connect to machines and influence their code just like he can the matrix code. He can also wirelessly connect to the matrix.
@N-word Jim for me it was when he had that flaming machine vision even in the real world. Made me suspect their entire layer of reality. It’s an obvious thing to go to in #4, but given how many theories people have about that I would think as a writer if I were them I’d want to go with something new.
Also remember the Matrix 4 might very well have Neo believing he's an actor from the first 3 matrices.
Lana did the long con.
Biological Interface Program, it isn't a plot hole.
You know, me as a travesti [trans] latina, I get really touched by the spirituality of those movies. I guess gringo culture in general has shift to a more secular vision of the world, but for me and a lot of sisters down here, our faith and spirituality are intrinsecal to our identidy and life. There's a brazilian trans woman singer that says the we need to "arm ourselfs spiritualy" because honestly it's our only way of surviving. I live in the country that kills most trans people in the whole world, and I need to say that I take very serious all the religious allegorys in theese movies, because they remind me that I'm literally not alone in this endless war against the matrix, and so are the charactes (i mean, Neo's powers literaly go over the real world as well)
omg YES
Thank you for your comment. You are a beautiful soul ❤ stay strong 😭🥰 for good things are coming. Again, thank you 🎉
When you say "I live in the country that kills the most trans people," are you speaking about the US? Where do you live?
(And also: You're comment is beautiful~!~ ✨️🌺🌸🌺✨️)
@@judeannethecandorchannel2153 thx thx
But no, I'm talking about Brazil, where I live
Ik that Mexico and the US have pretty close numbers tho
Sophie’s voice cutting in to pronounce Jean Boudrillard (sp?) ‘s name is genuinely one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a bit
Bo Drillerd
LMAO
Deja vu. It's clearly a glitch in the matrix.
I feel like the theory about Neo knowing they're in a movie is given a lot of support by the new trailer, which looks like it includes people watching the film The Matrix inside a sequel to The Matrix.
Yeah, and it also includes a shot that shows Neo being inside of a 3d CG environment, which is similar stuff
You could almost say that Neo, chose the non-binary path.
^this!^
That was my thought too
Okay, that’s really good.
What do you mean the non-binary path, The oracle predicted his path from the beginning. Neo just mistook the source as being in the Architects room just like the fifth anomaly did. Neo later realizing the source was in the machine city, like the oracle prophesied.
@@danrothman6129 It's a play on the name neo and the fact that neo could see in binary code. I didn't think people would take my joke that serious.
On the discussion of Agent Smith's sunglasses, the way his lenses reflect both Neo the lights, but how Neo's reflect nothing, it feels like it's trying to suggest that Agent Smith's worldview can't account for the existence of Neo and a reality outside of their ideological one. These observations literally bounce off the lenses Smith uses to analyze the world.
"You are a grown adult capable of forming your own opinions on movies without youtubers constructing them for you right?"
Me: about that... 😬
...I legit lowkey hated the Witcher (even if I binge-watched the series, binge-read all the books, backseat-played the game and even learnt to play some of its songs on the flute), until Sophia explained to me why I loved it, actually.
yikesaroni
that would require me to actually watch movies!
@@AnnDVine relatable.
Wearing sunglasses to reflect the ring light in the last shot? Uh oh they might be realizing they are in a video essay.
"Seeing her and wanting to be a Lesbian is a big transgender moment for you" Oh great, I can't believe my egg broke 22 years before I even knew!
I never heard the "Cypher is Buck Angel" idea before which as you pointed out doesn't hold up but is still an interesting one. I kinda read him as a detransitioner, the kind that throws trans people under the bus while making themselves look good. "I know the danger of that life! I thought I would be happier but I wasn't so clearly everyone is lying!"
I read this one on Facebook a few days ago (maybe that person read it here?) and it is a compelling thought (though probably not Buck himself due to the time gap, but definitely people like him). It was in reference to me commenting that Elon Musk is definitely a blue piller, and would be a Cypher if it meant getting more power/privilege. Gleeful wilful ignorance in the face of great suffering.
I’ve always secretly loved the Matrix sequels. People look at me like I’m crazy when I say it. THANK YOU SOPHIE. I finally feel heard.
Also Trainspotting 2 is better than Trainspotting 1. Fight me.
@@fromthebackseat4865 I'll definitely fight you. Come over.
No need to be secretive about it! I always loved them too. And this video only increased my appreciation.
17:02 - Trinity and Morpheus: Hey Neo, we saw you cross the bar and really dig your vibe.
So when I heard that the matrix movies were a trans allegory, I legit didn't get it. Cishet white dude, yeah I didn't get it, so I just said, oh ok, cool, and went on my way. But I am so happy that I get it now. You both did an incredible job of explaining the whole thing. And on top of that, I feel more informed and appreciative of the movies as a whole.
Thaaaaats Character Development™️ lad! Good on ya
Same here
I was coming down here to make this exact same comment. That's not why I started watching this video but I'm really glad that I now understand why people can come to such a strong conclusion and I wholeheartedly agree. I really appreciate that they took the time to go over that as it was very curious.
Is it really that subtle? The first movie hits you over the head with it every 2 minutes
@@oiytd5wugho if you have no idea what to look for you will never find it no matter how obvious it might be.
One interesting element of the whole 'Neo's choices are predetermined for him' thing is if you take into account the initial red/blue pill choice. This is technically also a choice that the Oracle forces Neo into because she's the reason Morpheus seeks him out in the first place.
Now you could see this in terms of 'well it's all pointless because the machines are behind Neo taking the red pill in the first place', but this doesn't really jive with how he breaks out of their manufactured consent later on in the films. I think you can see it as 'there is something inherent to Neo's being that makes him a redpiller regardless of whether he ever had a choice to take the red pill in the first place'.
Neo will always be redpilled, or anticapitalist, or trans, or queer, or whatever metaphor you like the most. Even if he goes back to where he was at the very start of the first film he will still know something isn't right. Hell we know this to be true based off the new trailer where we see him taking blue pills but there's still this sense that he knows he's just lying to himself about some reality bending truth that he refuses to see.
It's the notion that no matter what, the second you start to even get bad vibes about our systems whether they be capitalism, gender conformity, heteronormativity, etc you can never get rid of those vibes, and those vibes will eventually see to the destruction of these oppressive systems regardless. It's the hope that everyone has in 'the One'. Or the idea that even when the fascist agents kill every single opponent to them a new generation of queer people will always be born to undermine their system.
Btw this interpretation of the whole 'the red/blue pill choice is predetermined by the Oracle' thing is pretty cool given that estrogen pills used to be red, but they're now blue. It's also sort of funny when you consider that to transphobic fascists taking estrogen is 'bluepilled'. Then the rebuttal becomes, so what? At least trans people are more honest with themselves than you are lol. The idea is that regardless of what choice we make these inherent truths about humanity and our societies about our gender, our sexualities, our relations to the means of production, etc will never go away even if we choose to ignore them.
Yeah, I agree with all of this. To add on, we see in the Animatrix with the Kid and Track Record one can break through the Matrix by sheer willpower, so it’s very possible even if he didn’t even get the choice he would’ve eventually broken out.
ripping off my shirt to reveal another shirt underneath that says “number 1 matrix sequels defender 4 life”
Bet
i simultaneously hate and love your profile picture
@@InATyzzy thank you so much i made it myself :)
Goddammit I love your profile pic so much, and your comment just makes it that much more perfect.
Right there with you.
Lana's reaction to someone else finally suggesting something she's been aching to do is just so relatable.
They are good because of the anime fight between Neo and Agent smith in revolutions
Coming back to this from watching Resurrections proper, this was so unbelievably on the money about themes and political perspective, I was grinning in the theatre so much that my mouth hurt.
willing to hear you out as long as you don't get political
"It's just trenchcoat superman punching all da guise in suits cause he's redpilled AS FUCK!"
I love the Matrix because it explains that werewolves are just programs gone wrong. There are no other messages in the series.
Keep politics out of politics!
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF CYBERPUUUNK!
KEEP PUNKS OUT OF POLITICS!.... wait
Honestly seeing the sequels as a single film has made me turn around and like them now. Nice!
It's the one part of the analysis that I have an issue with really. You can certainly say they were *meant* to be one movie, and the themes and storylines work that way, but they weren't. The imagined fusion works great, but we never got that fusion, we got two awkward lacklustre films, and even if you watch them back to back you then instead have one single 4.5 hr movie with terrible pacing.
I'll admit 'The imaginary redesign of the matrix sequels as one single movie is good, actually' doesn't really have the same zing as a title though.
It was honestly the same for me too. I first watched these films separately early last year, and didn't care for the sequels at all (in fact, I was disproportionately harsh on Revolutions in particular). I rewatched them recently in preparation for Resurrections, but this time I watched the sequels hours apart as opposed to days, and found a lot more enjoyment out of them. I still have issues with them vis a vis the pacing, the structure, the overly expository and pretentious dialogue in Reloaded, the overlong action scenes in Revolutions, the general dead weight that is Zion. But I came away with a greater understanding of what the Wachowski sisters were trying to accomplish, and by extension a lot more respect and satisfaction for these films
I know that "pissing off the right people" is a terrible reason to do something but the sheer amount of angry tears Neo transitioning would cause would be so, so delightful.
They very nearly did something similar in the first film.
We can only hope for such a beautiful choice. Trans Neo is goals
@@RoadAegis …whoa (in Keanu voice)
Reich-wingers would be such triggered snowflakes if Neo transitioned into Nina and got impregnated by the Matrix in the third film of the new trilogy lol. Funny as that idea may seem, the thoughts of how they would have to structure the films to not be sunk by the comedic potential of doing that poorly would make it all the more interesting and beautiful
@@omniusmaximusgluteuslxix4857 I think the response would be closer to being puzzled.
I'm glad to announce that all of the Matrix sequels currently in existence are still good, actually.
Fun fact: my Dad was an extra in the third movie.
that's so cool!
which hugo weeving did he play? :P
@@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing It was during the Zion mech scene. He's openly said "It's not much to brag about".
Ok, now where is the hour long video about how the Underworld franchise is set in one of the old versions of the Matrix that had vampires and shit.
My feelings on the matrix films have gone on an odyssey. From thinking only the first one is good, to thinking they were all dumb, to actually enjoying a good chunk of the second, to thinking that the trilogy actually worked in the broad strokes. I am looking forward to going on a journey again.
I'm on the second phase
They're definitely not all dumb. So. If you're feeling that way, especially about the first, that's a you problem not a problem with the movie.
The great thing about the films is that they're great at looking like they're smart, but they're actually really dumb. But, since they treat you like you're smart, you get the impression that they're smart. And they're not.
When you said "that's capitalism baby" I heard and saw it as Thought Slime.
I don’t remember thinking anything of Neo’s and Trinity’s relationship when I was younger. Just two people that genuinely loved each other. Never understood why people said she was bitchy.
Wait, people said she was bitchy? Is this like that thing where people hate on Skyler from Breaking Bad that I found out about like five years after I finished watching the series?
@@weatheranddarkness Trinity's dignified. To the type of person who considers themselves entitled to fawning, especially from women, this is the same thing as, or possibly even worse than, "bitchiness"
@@Yoarashi I had simply not come across the complaint. I think at the end of the day Dune is the only fandom I enjoy hanging out with so I guess a lot of this dumb intramural politics ends up unheard by me
lol Wut? She's the most calm girl you could ever get. Even when Persephone tried stealing a kiss from Neo in front of her (except she was almost about to cap her ass).
The "My name is Neo" moment touched me in a special way long before I understood why.
While watching the opening to this my brain was like "omg Cypher is that small percentage of folks who de-transitions and agents of the system (the media) use as a weapon to attack trans people!"
Also, the fact he misses eating steak could be read as a male signifer.
Why is eating steak a male signifier?
I'm trying to follow this. Cypher is coded as a male, so why does a male signifier matter?
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick eating steak is considered to be manly lol. It’s fucking dumb but it is a classic meme. Men want a steak and a beer for Father’s Day or whatever.
@@conradkorbol Okay, cool. What did that have to do with anything?
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick you asked how that was a male signifier? I was explaining to you how it was.
Missed opportunity to call it "the Buck Angel Angle"
The only bad thing about this video, actually is that you didn't unpack The Kids name! MICHAEL KARL POPPERS!!!!???? A religious reference, a daddy Marx reference and a gay culture subtance reference??? It has to be the best thing in the whole franchise
And Karl Popper is a major philosopher, w/ famous writings on scientific falsification and politics
When is this name spoken or seen in the films?
@@matttriano It's in the animatrix, and in the video is around when they talk about The Kid
unfortunately his name is Popper, not Poppers, so Megaritz is correct ;)
@@matttriano 1:03:21
my favourite part of this so far is using auto-generated captions and hearing "merovingian" while seeing "mayor of indian" pop up on screen.
I've watched this several times through Patreon, and am so excited to finally be able to share this one with people! Congrats on making your way through the copyright assassins!
Awesome! Thank you! It was really hard haha I had to make like 10 different edits but I eventually managed to appeal the original unchanged version!
@@SophiefromMars thank goodness!!❤️
@@SophiefromMars Somebody said that there is a version with an unicorn.
"Neo Jesus, war over, people happy" is a fanTASTIC way to summarize the end of the trilogy.
Already seen this through Patreon, glad it's coming to everyone else, you're all in for a treat
Aww, thank you!
Isnt every curio vid a bit of a treat
The level of excitement because of this comment
Hi Jaz!
This was awesome goal and analysis. I am not a patreon or anything. But I would consider if Curio would do “Marx reading of Jupiter Ascending”
"All the code bending superpowers in the universe can't bring a city of corpses back from the dead"
I am specifically going to write a heavy industrial track just to sample that line
Also, it reframed the negotiation decisions for me in the film
Fantastic video y'all
Please share it here after you do!
Yeah, post a link for us to listen to it, please.
link when you do
The mech defense of Zion scenes are still some of my favorite action set pieces from any action movie. Also the one girl who shoots the home made rocket launcher to destroy the drill. Amazing.
Charra.
I loved her.
I love thinking about the Smith fight as the simulation struggling to render frames and going to a lower level of detail to keep the frames 😎
god, when you were describing Neo's transness as more than just taking the red pill with the sapphic love with trinity and how Neo is a transbian I just started crying... I can't really explain why, but I feel I understand or accept something about myself a little more as a transbian myself? either way, thank you this was an amazing analysis and now I feel the sequels are definitely worth the watch
You're not the only transbian who cried at that point, so I think you're on to something haha
@@thelegalsystem yeah I think since Neo is vvry obviously pre everything at least in appearance (red pill and all) and since I am also pre everything being able to see a "male" or masculine face and say "this is obviously a woman in a sapphic relationship.... yeah it hit right in the "I needed this" feels, dont know if my wording there is as good as it could be but.... yeah
you are valid as hell
@@TheHopperUK awww thank you! Right back at ya!!
@@gwenhoward4540 yeah I get you :) I'm pre-everything too and a little on the old side (at least, it feels that way in some trans spaces lol) and I'll take whatever validation I can scrape together lol
This is such a great analysis of movies I’ve always had a soft spot for. Seriously it’s like the definitive analysis on the sequels.
One thing tho, and I don’t want to be That Guy but Neo isn’t white. Keanu’s half Chinese Hawaiian. And you could make the argument that Neo was written to be a schlubby white dude but the Wachowski sisters originally wanted to Will Smith to play Neo.
Wooow! I cannot overstate how amazing this video was to watch.
Not only does it eloquently lay out how the sequels are much better than they get credit for, it also overflows with insight about the human condition, ties in vast layers of context, is funny, moving, revelatory, genuinely inspiring, and honestly just too many good things for me to put into words.
All I can say is this is truly a must watch.
Thank you!
"Kisses Neo to life like it's Act 6 of Homestuck" makes me laugh every time haha
just an average day for the transfems. bein hot, stuntin on the haters, defending the Matrix sequels
17:58 it's a tiny detail, but thank you very much for correcting the credits :)
i started uncontrollably sobbing several times while watching this video, which may partially be because i'm having a rough day, but is also definitely because it was really good and touching
Calendar was marked. hope everyone else celebrating is having a blast =)
Happy Get Really Baked and Watch The Matrix Day 2022! 21:49
It's an important holiday.
Get your politics out of my famously apolitical Matrix movies.
I really hope this doesn't awaken anything in me
I noticed something in the shot of the production equipment in the reflection, even more concrete in it being a fourth wall break. When smith says we are here for a purpose, he turns slightly to the camera, like he knows we are watching but knows not to fully look right at us. He lets us know he knows we are there and that the rules he is abiding by don't allow him to address it fully.
"there is no straight explanation for what you're seeing right now"
I've been using this phrase and paraphrases for a while now, but I had forgotten where I got it from. Now I've stumbled upon this video again. Thanks for the unintentional reminder.
I am glad you were finally able to get it on youtube, what with all the copyright issues. I am sure it must have been a nightmare. Anyways congrats! Can't wait for this!
I choose to accept the bowling pins and domino sound effects were intentional. We just heard the oracle say that when the programming works you don't notice, but it's only when something is wrong that you notice. The program didn't know what was happening when these seemingly human bodies that are thousands of times more durable than concrete smashed into each other so it's best estimate was that those sounds worked for the situation. Brilliant, actually.
I’m only 27 minutes in, but that breakdown of the trans allegory leading into her near attempt in front of the train (please no pun intended) just hit me so hard.
I’m enby. Still figuring it out, but I’m feeling bigender for now (she/her or he/him). Today was my first time going out to buy femme clothes. Seeing myself wearing clothes that fit me in a way others never have is a feeling I can’t describe, but the closest I’ve ever seen is the Wachowski’s speech you quoted. Seeing someone I can be, feeling seen, I don’t know how to put it.
I haven’t finished this video yet, but it’s already done more for me than I know how to process. Thank y’all for your work.
You are amazing and valid!
Congratulations on moving one step closer to your true self 💕 like the commenter above said, you are amazing and valid!
Truth is, gender was transed from the start.
@@TheAsyouwysh Phase 69 of the trans agenda is complete. nice.
Neo being a Programmer is the transest element
Wow, the Wachowski sisters even pioneered the 'movie in two parts' model that later would be so blatantly a cash grab that it alienated everyone and it crashed the Divergent film series and the model as a whole...
Back to the Future did it first.
@@Alanoursl Godfather did it earlier
@@Alanoursl Star Wars did it before that.
@@Alanoursl Toxic Avenger 2 & 3 (Its not about who did it first but who did it best! )
12:30 in the DVD extras for the Animatrix producer Joe Silver slates just as much, that really The Matrix movie is meant to be seen as an anime
Curio's video called "the matrix sequels are good, actually" pops up.
Me: "wait, I thought that was obvious. Was it up to discussion?" 😉😆
As always, great videoessay!
Thank you, Nick Mason, for presenting me to the beautiful piece of youtube media
i love the internet specifically because i get to hear perspectives like this. what a ride.
I find it fantastically difficult to look at Hugo Weaving and not get the weird dysphoria I associate with Agent Smith transforming people into clones. The thing is, I know that this was probably the intended reaction.
My baby gay self as the sequels came out: "I'm not into guys but wow if I was into a guy I guess Neo would be the guy I was into."
My adult gay self: "ah yes. Now I understand why. But also there are guys who fall within a similar purview so I'm actually bi I guess"
I was stubbornly lesbian as a teen. Now I’m smarter about myself and my ego a bit more realistic. I identify as 75% cis woman, pansexual queer. I live with my 100% cis male husband and lesbian cat. Nothing is better than the surprises that brings love to life wither way it comes. Be you the best you can and follow the white rabbit when it’s there.
Alternatively, you’re me, who every ‘man’ I’ve loved has turned out to be a lady or at least some flavor of Gender.
MY LOVE IS THE RED PILL
Eating the your pill after the "red pill" explanation while staring straight into the camera. Very well done! ❤
I'm not crying about Morpheus kicking the shit out of the agent on the highway, you are!
soo basically all i got out of this video is that apparently not everyone thinks the fight with dozens of Agent Smiths is the coolest thing to ever be put to film, and... spoons?? something about spoons
sophie: but with the Matrix 4 looming,
me: *the what*
21 Dec 2021.
21.12.21
Same!
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Gene Bo-Drillard sounds like a way more cyberpunk name :D
Didn't watch the sequels for years because of the backlash, then binged all three in one day and was like, what the hell is wrong with everyone these kind of rock??
Glad to know I accidently stumbled on the correct way to absorb this media 👍
I love when a recent purchase lines up with a video. I just recently bought the box set in anticipation of the new film.
Looking forward to rewatching the sequels, I haven’t seen them since the theatre (yes I’m that old).
When Neo inserts himself into Smith, Smith learns from Neo; not how to free himself of the system in order to fight against it, but how to free himself of the system in order to *gain control of it*. Smith takes control of the system, becoming a full blown fascist, and spreads his fascism across the entire population. In the end, everything is Smith, everyone is fascist, except Neo. Neo loses because he can't win, there's nobody to save; the battle is already lost in that sense... and this would be the case if Smith simply left Neo defeated, isolated, and turned Neo into a forever-enemy to keep the fascist dream alive. But Smith thinks he should eradicate Neo. This would be Fascism's downfall; fascism requires an enemy to unify against, and once that threat is gone there's nothing to fight. Yet Smith is prideful and doesn't just eliminate Neo, he tries to transform Neo into Smith, he tries to transform revolution into a fascism. Reactionaries successfully co-opt the symbology of the revolution constantly, but to attempt to transform the very essence of revolution, equality and freedom and queerness into fascism... that's thesis and antithesis. And so, when Smith tries to transform Neo... Neo and Smith are transformed, through dialectics, into a new synthesis, reconciling the extremes. We don't know what this new synthesis is. Radical Centrism? Third Way? Who knows... Maybe we might get to see a glimpse of that in Matrix 4.
Absolutely love this - I once explained facism to a friend as "the ideological equivalent of a black hole" because of its structure - destroying everything around it until it consumes itself 👀
Apologies if this is SPOILERS, but I think it turned out to be Neoliberalism, so I think the third way idea was close
I LOL'd at "tfw egg" that is so good.
1:41:58 "The Matrix movies exist in the world of The Matrix: Resurrections; and that's because our real world is in the matrix which would vindicate the reading that Neo knows he's in a movie and would also allow for a lot of interesting messing with the 'Dio Jesus' as well as potential retconning"
Holy shit, prediction spot on!!!! (Watch the official Matrix 4 trailer)
The intro feels like Quinton Reviews's Putting the 'War' in Star Wars* and Dan Olson's Folding Ideas - The Matrix Reloaded Revolutions had a little baby video (that's double the length of both combined).
*The one with "THE PREQUELS ARE GOOD! (thematically)" and Palpatine's face in the thumbnail.
This is an unbelievably good video. Your knowledge not just of the films, but also of current real-life discourse, events and sub culture is great. And then to top it off your ability to tie all of this together into a compelling and easy to follow narrative is very impressive. I put this on as background but ended up stopping what I was doing and watching the whole thing. Really good stuff.
I'm so glad you let this escape on to UA-cam where my disabled SSDI poor ass could see it. I really wish I could throw you all the monies. I love your work.
I applaud your dedication to calling out Buck Angel.
I think what I've noticed upon a recent-ish rewatch about a year or two ago is that although the first film is punchier and very well put together, the sequels attempt and try to expand on the thematic premise and contradictions in the first film in a way that is necessary albeit imperfect.
I can understand people being underwhelmed by the pacing choices, or that were looking for some sort of exact experience of being "mindblown" in the exact same way (see the numerous people convinced we were going to get a "the real world is also a simulation and when Neo wakes up from that shit is going to really get real" but if you were looking at how things work thematically the way the narrative turns is one of the more honest look at how dissent and unrest is channeled into a revolution (uprising) that is ultimately a revolution (full circle) by the powers that be (the Architect and the Oracle).
Still some of the action scenes in 2 and 3 could have done with some room on the cutting floor IMO lol. Weirdly it was the fighting that started to drag for me when I rewatched.
Well, probably a lot of people expected the sequels to expand on the worldbuilding... which, I think it's something we only see on Animatrix.
One of the most weird pieces of media related to Matrix is a SHORT story made by Neil Gaiman... basicaly, a human in the Matrix is awaken by the machines to fight aliens with a spaceship... so yeah... worldbuilding wasn't a big priority.
@@estebanrodriguez5409 I’ve not heard about that, wild
@@paleposter He published the story, but as a part of an antologies series.
@@paleposter The antology is named Fragile Things, the story was "Goliath". Apparently, before the Matrix film came out, they send him the script and he made that short story for the Web site. It's probably still there.
Rewatched this before seeing Matrix IV, and this video is amazing the nth time through
The soundtrack from The Matrix 2 is stellar and that's just a fact
I genuinely cry-laughed at the synopsis section
also i might just get baked and watch these movies tomorrow
celebrate early
honestly one of the best synopsesieseszz of all time
Been saying this for years, about time someone will finally validate what I've already known
This is so good I had to comment again just to say it is so good. Seriously, well done, your analysis makes me appreciate the trilogy in a way I never did before. Never thought the matrix would make me cry 😅
Feb 20? Curio you set up plans for my birthday and didnt even know it! Now i too will [redacted] and watch the matrix!
I'm listening to Blow Back podcast today about Cuba. In episode 3 around the 29:15 mark they interview a lady who was in the middle class and was in a Catholic School. She remarked one of the things that helped her radicalization was that after the revolutionaries won, there was no homeless people on the street. While the Catholic Church only had donations and charities to give.
That totally reminded of the thing I learned from this this video around the 1:02:45 mark.
I haven't watched the Matrix Sequels and haven't seen the Matrix in a while, but I will watch and enjoy this nonetheless.
near the beginning of Revolutions a bouncer at the frenchman's bar says "the only way you're getting in is over my big, dead ass" its a masterpiece